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Yokai Man’s Test Thread Thing

Luck Is a Relative Thing

1990-1992 John Major (Conservative Majority,Conservative Minority)
1992: Neil Kinnock-Labour (300),John Major-Conservative (292),Paddy Ashdown-Liberal Democrat (28),Alec Salmond-SNP (6),Dafydd Wigley-Plaid Cymru (4),various Independent Social Democrats (2),Dave Nellist-Independent Labour (1)

1992-1993 Neil Kinnock (Labour-Liberal Democrat Coalition)

1993-2000 Norman Lamont (Conservative Majority)
1993: Norman Lamont-Conservative (390),Neil Kinnock-Labour (216),Paddy Ashdown-Liberal Democrat (12),Alec Salmond-SNP (9),Dafydd Wigley-Plaid Cymru (5),Rosie Barnes-SDP (2),Dave Nellist-Socialist Labour (1)
1993 Maastricht Referendum: 56,29% No
1993 Maastricht Referendum: 54,90% No,refusal of the Conservative Party to participate in the Euro Elections as a result
1997: Norman Lamont-Conservative (351),Margaret Beckett-Labour (237),Charles Kennedy-Liberal Democrat (25),Alec Salmond-SNP (9),Ken Clarke-FBPE (6),Dafydd Wigley-Plaid Cymru (5),Rosie Barnes-SDP (2),Dave Nellist-Socialist Labour (1)
1997 European Membership Referendum: 50,37% Out

2000-2002 John Redwood (Conservative Majority)

2002-2014 Frank Field (Labour Majority)
2002: Frank Field-Labour (492),Charles Kennedy-Liberal Democrat (111),Ken Clarke-Rejoin (18),Alec Salmond-SNP (9),Rosie Barnes-SDP (6),Dafydd Wigley-Plaid Cymru (5)
 
Yokai Man said:
Remaining PD-L MPs that remained loyal after the 2012 Elections by April 2013:

Cătălin-Florin Teodorescu

Valerian Vreme

Ioan Oltean

Gheorghe Tinel

Mircea Man

Roberta Anastase

Sanda-Maria Ardeleanu

Cornel-Mircea Sămărtinean

Florin Mihail Secară

Costică Canacheu

Theodor Paleologu

Eugen Tomac

Mircea Lubanovici

Daniel Cristian Florian

Mărinică Dincă

Mihai-Ciprian Rogojan

Ion Ariton

Marius Bălu

Marius Pașcan

Andrei Volosevici

Dan Mihai Marian

Anca Boagiu

Cristian Rădulescu

Gheorghe Udriște
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2013 Presidential Election First Round:

Crin Antonescu-USL (46,70%)

Dan Diaconescu-PP-DD (13,21%)

Andrei Chiliman-Liberal Romania Initiative (11,03%)

Monica Macovei-New Republic (10,07%)

Gheorghe Falcă-PD-L (9,51%)

Kelemen Hunor-UDMR (3,87%)

Corneliu Vadim Tudor-PRM (3,05%)

Gheorghe Funar-PRM-Funar (1,15%)

Luis Lazarus-Independent (0,63%)

Miron Cozma-PSDM (0,42%)

Constantin Rotaru-PSM (0,36%)

2013 Presidential Election Second Round:

Crin Antonescu-USL (59,09%)

Dan Diaconescu-PP-DD (40,91%)
 
2016-2021 Andrea Leadsom (Conservative Majority,Conservative Minority,Conservative Majority)
2017: Andrea Leadsom-Conservative [391],Jeremy Corbyn-Labour [168],Nicola Sturgeon-SNP [58],Nick Boles-National Liberal [7],Leanne Wood-Plaid Cymru [5],Paul Nuttall-UKIP [2],Caroline Lucas/Jonathan Bartley-Green [1]

2021-present day Emily Thornberry (Labour Majority)
2021: Emily Thornberry-Labour [338],Andrea Leadsom-Conservative [236],Nicola Sturgeon-SNP [51],Nick Boles-Liberal Democrat [21],Leanne Wood-Plaid Cymru [3],Jonathan Bartley/Siân Berry-Green [1],Jason Zadrony-Ashfield Independents [1],Tim Aker-Thurrock Independents [1]


2017-2021 Marco Rubio/Asa Hutchinson (Republican)
2016 def: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-Democratic,Donald Trump/Michael Flynn-America First

2021-present day Pete Buttigieg/J.B Pritzker (Democratic)
2020 def: Marco Rubio/Asa Hutchinson-Republican,Donald Trump/Matt Gaetz-America First



2017-2022 Emmanuel Macron (La République En Marche!)
2017 First Round def: Marine Le Pen (Front National),François Fillon (Les Républicains),Jean-Luc Mélenchon (La France Insoumise),Benoît Hamon (PS)
2017 Second Round def: Marine Le Pen (Front National)

2022-present day Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (Debout la France)
2022 First Round def: Emmanuel Macron (La République En Marche!),Valérie Pécresse (Les Républicains),Fabien Roussel (PCF),Yannick Jadon (Les Écologistes)
2022 Second Round def: Emmanuel Macron (La République En Marche!)
 
1508-1537 Henry VIII (House of Tudor)

1537-1572 Edward VI (House of Stanley)

1572-1596 Henry IX (House of Stanley)

1596-164x William III (House of Stanley)
 
@Heat

Does this seem like a plausable scenario?

1989-199x Czesław Kiszczak (PZPR/SdRP-ZSL-SD-PAX Coalition with Solidarity/Democratic Union support and confidence)
1989: Wojciech Jaruzelski-PZPR (173),Lech Wałęsa-Solidarity (161),Roman Malinowski-ZSL (76),Tadeusz Witold Młyńczak-SD (27),Zenon Komender-PAX (10),Kazimierz Morawski-UChS (8),Wiesław Gwiżdż-PZK-S (5)
May 1991: Władysław Frasyniuk-UD (80),Wiesław Chrzanowski-WAK (48),Jaroslaw Kaczyński-POC (48),Waldemar Pawlak-PSL (47),Donald Tusk-KLD (43),Leszek Moczulsk-KPN (37),Józef Ślisz-PSL-PL (31),Lech Wałęsa-Solidarity (27),Janusz Rewiński-PPPP (16),Czesław Kiszczak-SdRP (15),collective leadership-ChD (11),Tadeusz Fiszbach-PSU (11),Janusz Korwin-Mikke-UPR (8),Ryszard Bugaj/Karol Modzelewski-SP (6),Stanislaw Tymiński-Party X (3),Zbigniew Bujak-RDS (3)

Basically Wałęsa agrees to Mazowiecki’s proposed plan after the 1989 elections and let Kiszczak be in charge til 1993 so that Solidarity can be in a better position to obtain government and the PZPR/its possible successors to be permanently damaged.

The plan obviously doesn’t quite go to plan-the two still crash and form their own parties and Kiszczak and Fiszbach get in conflict due to the General refusing to back down. Mazowiecki enters the second round and defeats Wałęsa but is left with a peculiar situation where no one can really form a majority and thus Kiszczak gets to carry on as interim PM by default til the next elections.
 
Yokai Man said:
Does this seem like a plausable scenario?
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Sorry I'm late, but basically, not even slightly.

1) That Mazowiecki idea was doomed as soon as it sank in that Solidarity had an overwhelming mandate and people expected them to actually do something with it, which is why he ended up changing his mind in the first place. Voting for Jaruzelski to be President was really the last straw for Wałęsa. I guess you could handwave and say the State Department got the thumbscrews out, but they did that IOTL anyway.
2) Kiszczak was struggling to convince even PZPR MPs let alone anyone else, they'd realised how screwed they were by then.
2) Even if that did actually happen, you'd have a way stronger anti-communist backlash next election, especially if Kiszczak has to eat the costs of the Balcerowicz Plan. Kaczyński's radicalism probably gets rocket boosters in this scenario, and KPN probably does way better (even if they had no money and Moczulski was a bore).
3) There's basically no reason to think the early 90s party soup would shake out the same way. There's no reason for the UD to exist if Kiszczak is PM and presumably lovebombing the likes of Michnik, Kuroń and Geremek, the Gdańsk liberals only got as prominent as they did because Wałęsa thought they were pliable and installed Bielecki as PM, there's less reason for Wałęsa to split from the Kaczyńskis if he (presumably) regrets going along with putting Kiszczak in...
4) Does Jaruzelski still resign if the PZPR is clinging to power?
5) How does Mazowiecki win? He was the worst candidate you could possibly imagine, and here he doesn't even have any accomplishments as PM to lean on.
6) Fiszbach was basically crypto-Solidarity by this point (Wałęsa even tried to convince him to stand for President against Jaruzelski), which is also why basically why nobody from the PZPR followed him into the PUS IOTL.
 
Heat said:
Sorry I'm late, but basically, not even slightly.

1) That Mazowiecki idea was doomed as soon as it sank in that Solidarity had an overwhelming mandate and people expected them to actually do something with it, which is why he ended up changing his mind in the first place. Voting for Jaruzelski to be President was really the last straw for Wałęsa. I guess you could handwave and say the State Department got the thumbscrews out, but they did that IOTL anyway.
2) Kiszczak was struggling to convince even PZPR MPs let alone anyone else, they'd realised how screwed they were by then.
2) Even if that did actually happen, you'd have a way stronger anti-communist backlash next election, especially if Kiszczak has to eat the costs of the Balcerowicz Plan. Kaczyński's radicalism probably gets rocket boosters in this scenario, and KPN probably does way better (even if they had no money and Moczulski was a bore).
3) There's basically no reason to think the early 90s party soup would shake out the same way. There's no reason for the UD to exist if Kiszczak is PM and presumably lovebombing the likes of Michnik, Kuroń and Geremek, the Gdańsk liberals only got as prominent as they did because Wałęsa thought they were pliable and installed Bielecki as PM, there's less reason for Wałęsa to split from the Kaczyńskis if he (presumably) regrets going along with putting Kiszczak in...
4) Does Jaruzelski still resign if the PZPR is clinging to power?
5) How does Mazowiecki win? He was the worst candidate you could possibly imagine, and here he doesn't even have any accomplishments as PM to lean on.
6) Fiszbach was basically crypto-Solidarity by this point (Wałęsa even tried to convince him to stand for President against Jaruzelski), which is also why basically why nobody from the PZPR followed him into the PUS IOTL.
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Thank you for your imput,this was really helpful!
 
@Time Enough

1937-1940 Neville Chamberlain (Conservative led National Government,Conservative led War Government)

1940-1945 Oliver Stanley (Conservative led War Government)

1945-1950 A.V Alexander (Labour Majority)
1945: A.V Alexander-Labour (376),Oliver Stanley-Conservative (223),Archibald Sinclair-Liberal (17)

1950-1956 Frederick Marquis,1st Earl of Woolton (Conservative Majority,Conservative Minority,Conservative Majority)
1950: Frederick Marquis,1st Earl of Woolton-Conservative (330),A.V Alexander-Labour (269),Archibald Sinclair-Liberal (17)
1955: Frederick Marquis,1st Earl of Woolton-Conservative (316),Aneurin Bevan-Labour (283),Mark Bonham Carter-Liberal (17)

1956-1960 Aneurin Bevan (Labour-Liberal Coalition)
1956: Aneurin Bevan-Labour (313),Frederick Marquis,1st Earl of Woolton-Conservative (282),Mark Bonham Carter-Liberal (21)

1960-1970 John Freeman (Labour-Liberal Coalition,Labour Majority)
1960: John Freeman-Labour (330),Anthony Eden-Conservative (265),Jo Grimond-Liberal (21)

-Clem loses his seat,leaving Fred Roberts as the only one to take over as Leader from Uncle George

-Labour does slightly worse than OTL in ‘35,with Morrison among the big names that doesn’t manage to win a seat

-Nev fires Churchill for Narvik and Wood refuses the Premiership,leaving Oliver Stanley as the only choice by default due to his post

-Stanley is better and more competent than Churchill and the war ends slightly earlier-a bit by the nuclear bomb being made in February and Hanover and Leipzig being nuked-but suffers from a lack of charisma and speech making,with the only reason why the Tories keep more seats being the church bells being rung to tell people the war is over

-AV becomes Leader after Roberts dies and more or less does the same Clem did OTL,but with Nye in a more prominent role

-Uncle Fred as PM is competent and doesn’t do anything that wrong but,due to Nye becoming leader,is in a precarious situation and stays slightly longer by making a deal with the 3 Liberal MP most willing to switch sides,which makes him be branded as a crook despite said deal being perfectly legal

-Nye leads a Lab-Lib coalition which among other things makes Welsh and Scottish Assemblies a thing
 


1957-1973 John Diefenbaker (Progressive Conservative Majority)
1957: John Diefenbaker-Progressive Conservative [112],Louis St Laurent-Liberal [105],Major James Coldwell-CCF [25],Solon Earl Low-Social Credit [19]
1958: John Diefenbaker-Progressive Conservative [253],*Lester B Pearson-Liberal [9],*Major James Coldwell-CCF [1],Raoul Poulin-Independent
1962: John Diefenbaker-Progressive Conservative [197],Jack Pickersgill-Liberal [36],Robert N Thompson-Social Credit [25],Tommy Douglas-NDP [5],Raoul Poulin-Union Nationale [1]
1967: John Diefenbaker-Progressive Conservative [178],Paul Martin Sr-Liberal [53],Réal Caouette-Ralliement créditiste [14],Tommy Douglas-NDP [15],Robert N Thompson-Social Credit [4]
1972: John Diefenbaker-Progressive Conservative [140],Paul Martin Sr-Liberal [89],David Lewis-NDP [22],Rêal Caouette-Social Credit [14]

1973-1977 Dufferin Roblin (Progressive Conservative Majority)

1977-19xx Paul Martin Sr (Liberal-New Democrat Coalition)
 
La Petit Bagdad

2008-2012 Vasile Blaga (PD-L)
2008 First Round def: Cristian Diaconescu (PSD),Ludovic Orban (PNL),Cosmin Gușă (PIN),Gigi Becali (PNG-CD)
2008 Second Round def: Cristian Diaconescu (PSD)

2012-2016 Ecaterina Andronescu (USL,PSD by 2014)
2012 def: Vasile Blaga (PD-L),Nicușor Dan (Independent),Horia Mocanu (PP-DD),Gigi Becali (PNG-CD)

2016-2016 Dan Darabont (PSD,interim Mayor)

2016-2018 Gabriela Firea (PSD)
2016 def: Nicuşor Dan (USB),Cătălin Predoiu (PNL),Robert Turcescu (PMP),Daniel Barbu (ALDE)
2018 Recall Referendum: 55,89% Yes

2018-2019 Aurelian Bădulescu (PSD)

2019-present day Nicușor Dan (Independent backed by USR)
2019 def: Codrin Ștefănescu (PSD),Gabriela Firea (PRF),Nicolae Bănicioiu (Pro Romania),Alina Gorghiu (PNL)
2021 def: Gabriela Firea (PRF),Traian Băsescu (PMP),Victor Ponta (Pro Romania),Șerban Nicolae (PSD)
 
A Horrible Man With A Terrible Plan or One of Worst Things I Ever Made

2017-2021 Mike Pence (replacing Donald Trump) /Jeff Flake (Republican)
2016: Tim Kaine (replacing Hillary Clinton)/Tom Perez-Democratic (266),Mike Pence (replacing Donald Trump)/Jeff Flake-Republican (266),Evan McMullin/Mindy Finn-Independent (6)-HUNG COLLEGE
2017 Contingent Presidential Election: Mike Pence-Republican (28),Tim Kaine-Democratic (20),Evan McMullin-Independent (1)

2021-present day Tom Steyer/Pramila Jayapal (Democratic)


i am so sorry
 
A Curious Stalemate

2016-2017 Theresa May (Conservative Majority,Conservative Minority)
2017: Theresa May-Conservative [300],Jeremy Corbyn-Labour [276],Nicola Sturgeon-SNP [36],*Tim Farron-Liberal Democrat [14],Leanne Wood-Plaid Cymru [4],Paul Nuttall-UKIP [1],Caroline Lucas/Jonathan Bartley-Green [1]

2017-2018 Jeremy Corbyn (Labour Minority with Liberal Democrat,SNP and Green support and confidence)

2018-present day David Davis (Conservative Majority)
2018: David Davis-Conservative [441],Jeremy Corbyn-Labour [114],Nicola Sturgeon-SNP [43],Sir Vince Cable-Liberal Democrat [12],Nigel Farage-UKIP [5],Leanne Wood-Plaid Cymru [5],Caroline Lucas/Jonathan Bartley-Green [1],Jason Zadrony-Ashfield Independents [1]

@Time Enough
 
Yokai Man said:
Jason Zadrony-Ashfield Independents [1]
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Aahhhhhh, yeah I can see that.

Yokai Man said:
2018-present day David Davis (Conservative Majority)
2018: David Davis-Conservative [441],Jeremy Corbyn-Labour [114],Nicola Sturgeon-SNP [43],Sir Vince Cable-Liberal Democrat [12],Nigel Farage-UKIP [5],Leanne Wood-Plaid Cymru [5],Caroline Lucas/Jonathan Bartley-Green [1],Jason Zadrony-Ashfield Independents [1]
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What a cursed scenario, also Vince Cable running an election would be interesting to see, if I remember correctly he was discussing the decriminalisation of weed a fair bit.
 
2008 Romanian Election Results:

PD-L: 205 seats

PSD+PC: 196 seats

UDMR: 33 seats

PNL: 18 seats

PNG-CD: 1 seat
 
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