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[theflyingmgoose]

apparently Keir Starmer's wife works in the NHS

with that said, my description of Jon Ossoff as "Starmer (Away) Down-South (In Dixie)" rings surprisingly accurate

She's also Jewish too, just like Ossoff's

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

2028 United States presidential election
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For related races, see 2028 United States elections.​

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The 2028 United States presidential election was the 62nd quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 7, 2028. The Democratic ticket of Senator Bruce Wayne of New York and Governor Jennifer Carroll Foy of Virginia defeated the Republican ticket of incumbent President Josh Hawley of Missouri and incumbent Vice President Mike Pompeo of Kansas.

Wayne, the junior Senator from New York, was widely considered a rising star in the party and emerged as the Democratic nominee ahead of a wide field of candidates, including Governor Wes Moore of Maryland, Governor Maura Healey of Massachusetts, and former U.N. Ambassador Pete Buttigieg of Michigan. Wayne selected term-limited Governor Jennifer Carroll Foy for vice president. As incumbent President, Josh Hawley had little issue being renominated by the Republican Party, which canceled almost all of its primary contests in a bid to present a united front. The Forward Party would nominate Greg Orman for president and Cory Hepola for vice president.

The election took place against the backdrop of the Belarusian Civil War, which had seen rapidly rising tensions between Russia and Western Europe after Russian president Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of eastern Belarus following the deposing of Belarusian strongman Nikolai Lukashenko in 2027. The crisis had also created a schism between the US and other NATO members due to Hawley's "modern isolationist" position and suggestions of NATO provocation with the supplying of weapons to the Belarusian government. Hawley would also promise to "re-assess" America's involvement in the military alliance. Wayne would criticize Hawley's policy as "neo-appeasement", as well as condemn the State Department's role in pressuring Ukraine into territorial concessions in the Treaty of Ankara. He would also commit to designating Ukraine and Belarus as "major non-NATO allies" and sending military aid to Belarus, as well as presenting a strong stance against Russia and China. Whilst foreign policy dominated the campaign, other issues such as Supreme Court expansion, healthcare reform, abortion laws, climate change, and voting rights all played an important role in voters' minds and were key themes of the one debate that was held between the two presidential candidates (with Hawley withdrawing from the other two, citing bias of media coverage).

While polls would project an extremely slim margin of victory for Wayne, the Democratic ticket would outperform expectations, flipping 6 states and winning 311 electoral votes to Hawley's 227. The election saw a surge in turnout, up to 65.9 percent from 57.5 percent in 2024. Key reasons behind the high turnout are thought to be the divisiveness of President Hawley, motivations amongst Democrats to vote on key issues such as voting rights and abortion, and the easing of mail-in voting in many Democratic-controlled states which saw turnout increase to above 75 percent in some states. Kennedy won 84.5 million votes, the highest ever total (eclipsing the 81.2 million won by Joe Biden in 2020) for a presidential candidate, whilst Hawley won 75.1 million, the second-highest ever total won by a Republican candidate. Wayne won a number of states that Kamala Harris failed to win in 2024, including Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. He also became the first Democrat to win Alaska since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964 and Florida since Barack Obama in 2012 (with many citing Hawley's poor response to Hurricane Isaias in 2026 as the primary factor). Meanwhile, despite falling to defeat, Hawley narrowly won Michigan, a state that Harris had won in 2024.

In the aftermath of the election, Hawley refused to concede the election, citing unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in various swing states. Members of Hawley's administration also tried to influence the vote counting process in a number of states, including Florida and Pennsylvania. Despite his refusal to concede, Hawley ultimately agreed to stand aside in the interests of national unity, although he warned that many Americans were losing faith in the "crooked and unfair process of American democracy". Protests against the result were held, but there was no repeat of the 2020 attack on the US Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump, and despite some Republican lawmakers refusing to certify the election results, Wayne was sworn in as the 48th President of the United States on January 20, 2029.

Remade the box with a more accurate map.​

 

[Blackentheborg]

btw are you kicked from the other place? What gives?

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

btw are you kicked from the other place? What gives?

yeah

basically me and a few other people got into a pissfight on "what happens if putin uses a nuke to blackmail ukraine/the west in the ukraine war"

i called their belief that putin would stop using nuclear blackmail if it worked on ukraine stupid (that, and the idea that nuclear blackmail would reduce the chances of MAD in the long term).

ian got pissy and booted me for a week, because apparently calling someone's beliefs stupid is the same as saying that someone wants nuclear holocaust

 

[Blackentheborg]

yeah

basically me and a few other people got into a pissfight on "what happens if putin uses a nuke to blackmail ukraine/the west in the ukraine war"

i called their belief that putin would stop using nuclear blackmail if it worked on ukraine stupid (that, and the idea that nuclear blackmail would reduce the chances of MAD in the long term).

ian got pissy and booted me for a week, because apparently calling someone's beliefs stupid is the same as saying that someone wants nuclear holocaust

Yeah, that sounds like Ian alright.

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Chief Executives of the Hong Kong SAR:
2017-2022: Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor (Nonpartisan, pro-Beijing)
2017: def. John Tsang Chun-wah (Nonpartisan, pro-Beijing), Woo Kwok-hing (Nonpartisan, unaffiliated)
2022-2029: John Lee Ka-chiu † (Nonpartisan, pro-Beijing)
2022: unopposed
2027: def. Wong Chau-chi (Bauhinia, pro-Beijing)
2029-2032: Eric Chan Kwok-ki (Nonpartisan, pro-Beijing)
2032-2042: Dominic Lee Tsz-king (Nonpartisan, pro-Beijing)
2032: def. Holden Chow Ho-ding (D.A.B., pro-Beijing)
2037: def. Luk Chung-hung (FTU, pro-Beijing)
2042-20__: DISPUTED; beginning of the Orchid Uprising

President of the Hong Kong Restoration Council:
2039-20__: Nathan Law Kwun-chung (Revival, pro-democracy) [in exile]

First Secretary of the Civic Liberation Front:
2040-20__: Chan Chou-yan (Nonpartisan, pro-democracy)

Chairman of the 2019 Legacy Alliance:
2031-20__: Joshua Wong Chi-fung (Nonpartisan, pro-democracy) [imprisoned since 2039]
2039-20__: Adrian Lai Tsum-yeung (Nonpartisan, pro-democracy) [de-facto leader]

President of the Coalition of Autonomous Communities:
2041-20__: Wu Wai-yeung (Alternative, pro-democracy)

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

"THIS...narrative that Hong Kong protests against Chinese aggression in the Taiwan strait is solely due to American saber-rattling and Sinophobic hysteria by "the west" is one I would expect the Chinese propaganda arm to peddle, but it is frankly horrifying that an esteemed member of the Fourth Estate - like yourself - is lending this pile of...malarkey credence.

The reality is that Hong Kong has been betrayed by the Chinese government. The supposed principle of "One Country, Two Systems" was perverted and twisted in order for the government to surpress dissent in the city. Opposition activists have been hounded, detained, forced into exile - even killed off in mysterious "car crashes". The government has used colonial-era laws and vague charges of "sedition" to purge the city of its pan-democratic officials and lawmakers. The Chief Executive calls for the arbitrary arrest and detention of gay rights advocates. Triads* - hounded into the shadows by anti-corruption crusades in the city's colonial era - have been co-opted, tolerated - even welcomed! - by the pro-Beijing camp as an extralegal arm of intimidation on behalf of the state.

You're smarter than you look, I'm sure you and I both know. Would you - if you were a lifelong resident of the city - not chafe under that kind of blatant crackdown? Would you not fight back if given the chance?

I'm sure you know the answer to that question."

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[1] credit to @Bonniecanuck and their excellent "Milk Tea" vignette for this

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Leaders of the Group of Eight:
Australia: Prime Minister Bridget Archer (Liberal – LNP) [2030-]
Canada: Prime Minister Ruth Ellen Brosseau (New Democratic) [2030-]
France: President Julien Bayou (Europe Ecology – NUPES) [2027-]
Germany: Chancellor Annalena Baerbock (Green) [2025-]
Japan: Prime Minister Shun Otokita (Innovation) [2030-]
Norway: Prime Minister Bjørnar Moxnes (Rødt) [2030-]
United Kingdom: Prime Minister Keir Starmer (Labour) [2023-]
United States: President Bruce Wayne (Democratic) [2029-]

 

[theflyingmgoose]

yeah

basically me and a few other people got into a pissfight on "what happens if putin uses a nuke to blackmail ukraine/the west in the ukraine war"

i called their belief that putin would stop using nuclear blackmail if it worked on ukraine stupid (that, and the idea that nuclear blackmail would reduce the chances of MAD in the long term).

ian got pissy and booted me for a week, because apparently calling someone's beliefs stupid is the same as saying that someone wants nuclear holocaust

Isn't Ian a tankie?

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Isn't Ian a tankie?

I don't think he is. Just prickly "zero-tolerance" bs.

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Presidents of the United States of America:
2001-2001: Al Gore † (Democratic)

-00 (w. Bob Graham): def. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)​

2001-2005: Bob Graham (Democratic)
2005-2007: Businessman Alexander "Lex" Luthor (Reform-DE)

-04 (electoral deadlock): Newt Gingrich / John Ashcroft (Republican), Bob Graham / John Kerry (Democratic), Lex Luthor / Dean Barkley (Reform)​

-01 House contingent: Lex Luthor (Ref.) def. Newt Gingrich (Rep.), Bob Graham (Dem.)​

-01 Senate contingent: John Ashcroft (Rep.) def. John Kerry (Dem.)​

2007-2013: Vice President John Ashcroft (Republican-MO)

-08 (w. Sonny Perdue): def. Paul Wellstone / Harold Ford Jr. (Democratic), Peter Navarro / Armand Krol (Reform)​

2013-2015: Senator Conor M. Suarez (Democratic-CO)

-12 (w. Joe Hoeffel): def. Hal Jordan / Curtis Haas (Republican), Jesse Ventura / Joe Lhota (Reform)​

2015-2025: House Speaker Barack Obama (Democratic-IL)

-16 (w. Samuel Lane): def. Amanda Waller [replacing Jack Napier] / Jeff Haffley (Republican)​

-20 (w. Samuel Lane): def. Ted Kord / Will Conway (Independent), G. Gordon Godfrey / Sarah Palin (Republican)​

2025-2033: Governor Fitzgerald Grant (Republican-WA)

-24 (w. Ted Brockhart): def. Susan Raynor / Josh Lyman (Democratic)​

-28 (w. Ted Brockhart): def. Lois Lane / Peter Ross (Democratic)​

2033-20__: Philanthropist Jason Todd-Wayne (Democratic-NY)

-32 (w. Robert Richmond): def. Ted Brockhart / Art Schieder (Republican)​

-36 (w. Robert Richmond): def. Kimble Hookstraten / Walter Dunlap (Republican), James Royce / Jenna Jacobs (Patriotic)​

 

[Meppo]

Amanda Waller [replacing Jack Napier] / Jeff Haffley (Republican)

yoooooooo

what happened to Jack Napier btw, he seemed rather liberal-leaning from what I've seen of him in White Knight

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

what happened to Jack Napier btw, he seemed rather liberal-leaning from what I've seen of him in White Knight

The idea is that he essentially serves as the "Ted Bundy but in politics" expy. So his being kicked off the ticket should be self-explanatory...

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

@CTTeller this is a redo of a mini-tl of the same name on my test thread in the Other Place (the one with Basil).

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Career of Sir Lucas Bainbridge, Baron Bainbridge of Islington
2015-2036: Member of Parliament for Islington South and Finsbury (Labour)

Preceded by: Emily Thornberry (LAB)​

Succeeded by: Nurullah Turan (LAB)​

2015-2017: Shadow Minister for Mental Health and Social Care (Labour)
2017-2018: Shadow Secretary of State for International Development (Labour)
2018-2019: Shadow Secretary of State for Defence (Labour)
Leader: Jeremy Corbyn
2020-2036: Leader of the Labour Party
Deputy: Lisa Nandy (2020-26), Dan Carden (2026-31), Basil Suzuki (2031-35)

Preceded by: Jeremy Corbyn​

Succeeded by: Basil Suzuki​

-20: def. Rebecca Long-Bailey, Angela Rayner​

-31: def. Owen Jones​

2020-2024: Leader of the Opposition (Labour)
Prime Minister: Boris Johnson (CON) (2020-22), Liz Truss (CON) (2022-24)
Deputy: Angela Rayner

Preceded by: Jeremy Corbyn​

Succeeded by: Theresa May​

2024-2036: Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (Labour)
Monarch: Charles III (2024-32), William V (2032-36)
Deputy: Angela Rayner (2024-29), Wes Streeting (2029-31), Basil Suzuki (2031-35)
Preceded by: Liz Truss (CON)
Succeeded by: Basil Suzuki (LAB)

-24 (Majority): def. Liz Truss (CON), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Ed Davey (LibDem)​

-25 Scottish independence referendum: NO 52.4%, YES 47.6%​

-26 (Majority): def. Penny Mordaunt (CON), Ed Davey (LibDem), Amelia Womack (Green), Humza Yousaf (SNP)​

-30 (Majority): def. Kemi Badenoch (CON), Layla Moran (LibDem), Amelia Womack (Green), Mhairi Black (SNP)​

-34 (Majority): def. Peter Fortune (CON), Layla Moran (LibDem), Amelia Womack (Green), James Melville (White Rose)​

2036-2038: Member of the House of Lords, Lord Temporal (Labour)

-37 Lords reform referendum: YES 56.6%, NO 43.4%​

2038-20__: Member of the British Senate for Camden and Islington (Labour)

-38: def. Chuka Umunna (LibDem), Oliver Cooper (CON), Benali Hamdache (Green), Laurence Fox (White Rose), others​

 

[theflyingmgoose]

Bruce Wayne controls all countries

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

2041-0000: Ron Nirenberg (Democratic)
2040 (with Indira Sheumaker): def. Tucker Carlson / Charlie Kirk (Republican)

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[Bolt451]

The Blue-Greens: The Rise of the Green Party
Prologue: Opposition? What opposition?

View attachment 59707​

Ed Davey as leader of the opposition

what a world to live in!

S T A R M E R P U N K

View attachment 59708

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom:
2019-2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative)
-19 (Majority of 80): def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats)
2022-2024: Liz Truss (Conservative)
2024-20XX: Sir Keir Starmer (Labour)
-24 (Majority of 346): def. Liz Truss (Conservative), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Ed Davey (Liberal Democrats)
-25 Scottish independence referendum: NO 54.4%, YES 45.6%
-26 partial PR referendum: YES 53.3%, NO 46.7%
-28 (Majority of 280): def. Kemi Badenoch (Conservative), Chuka Umunna (Liberal Democrats), Jo Cherry (SNP), Amelia Womack (Green)
-29 EU membership referendum: YES 55.9%, NO 44.1%
-32 (Majority of 200): def. Tom Tugendhat (Conservative), Carla Denyer (Green), Chuka Umunna (Liberal Democrats), Louis Stedman-Bryce (White Rose), Humza Yousaf (SNP)
-36 (Majority of 214): def. Tom Tugendhat (Conservative), Carla Denyer & Layla Moran (Green-LibDem Coalition), Lewis Brackpool (White Rose), Zarah Sultana (Momentum)
-40 (Majority of 156): def. Luke Evans (Conservative), Lucas North (Democratic), Darren Grimes (White Rose), Zarah Sultana (Momentum)
-44 (Majority of 62): def. Jack Rydeheard (Conservative), Lucas North (Democratic), Darren Grimes (White Rose), Jane Baston (Momentum)

Also love this but IDK if they'd bother with PR given they've got that big a majority. On the other hand they might be comfortable enough throwing a bone to the memberhsip

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Also love this but IDK if they'd bother with PR given they've got that big a majority. On the other hand they might be comfortable enough throwing a bone to the memberhsip

I think they would do it in order to pre-empt some kind of left-wing challenge to Starmer, who despite being shoved left by a majority of 346 would still govern to the center.

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Senators of the 121st United States Congress, 2029-31
Alabama: Tommy Tuberville (R, 2020), Katie Britt (R, 2022)
Alaska: Mary Peltola (D, 2026), Scott Kawasaki (D, 2028)
Arizona: Mark Kelly (D, 2020), Ruben Gallego (D, 2024)
Arkansas: Tom Cotton (R, 2014), Leslie Rutledge (R, 2028)
California: Alex Padilla (D, 2021), London Breed (D, 2025)
Colorado: Jared Polis (D, 2026), Joe Neguse (D, 2029)
Connecticut: Chris Murphy (D, 2012), Erick Russell (D, 2028)
Delaware: Lisa Blunt Rochester (D, 2024), Kathy Jennings (D, 2026)
Florida: Rick Scott (R, 2018), Nikki Fried (D, 2026)
Georgia: Jon Ossoff (D, 2020), Raphael Warnock (D, 2020)
Hawaii: Brian Schatz (D, 2012), Lisa Kitagawa (D, 2024)
Idaho: Mike Crapo (R, 1998), Priscilla Giddings (R, 2028)
Illinois: Lauren Underwood (D, 2026), Juliana Stratton (D, 2029)
Indiana: Todd Young (R, 2016), Todd Rokita (R, 2024)
Iowa: Joni Ernst (R, 2014), Randy Feenstra (R, 2025)
Kansas: Roger Marshall (R, 2020), Jake LaTurner (R, 2028)
Kentucky: Rand Paul (R, 2010), Daniel Cameron (R, 2026)
Louisiana: Julia Letlow (R, 2026), Clay Higgins (R, 2028)
Maine: Jared Golden (D, 2024), Stacey Brenner (D, 2026)
Maryland: Chris van Hollen (D, 2016), Sarah K. Elfreth (D, 2024)
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren (D, 2012), Ayanna Pressley (D, 2026)
Michigan: John James (R, 2024), Gretchen Whitmer (D, 2026)
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar (DFL, 2006), Peggy Flanagan (DFL, 2026)
Mississippi: Cindy Hyde-Smith (R, 2018), Shad White (R, 2026)
Missouri: Eric Schmitt (R, 2022), Scott Fitzpatrick (R, 2025)
Montana: Steve Daines (R, 2014), Greg Gianforte (R, 2025)
Nebraska: Ben Sasse (R, 2014), Don Bacon (R, 2024)
Nevada: Jacky Rosen (D, 2018), Yvanna Cancela (D, 2028)
New Hampshire: Chris Pappas (D, 2026), Rebecca Kwoka (D, 2028)
New Jersey: Cory Booker (D, 2013), Andy Kim (D, 2024)
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich (D, 2012), Hector Balderas (D, 2026)
New York: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D, 2028), Pat Ryan (D, 2029)
North Carolina: Ted Budd (R, 2022), Jeff Jackson (D, 2026)
North Dakota: Kevin Cramer (R, 2018), Kelly Armstrong (R, 2028)
Ohio: Sherrod Brown (D, 2006), J. D. Vance (R, 2022)
Oklahoma: James Lankford (R, 2014), Markwayne Mullin (R, 2022)
Oregon: Jeff Merkley (D, 2008), Shemia Fagan (D, 2028)
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. (D, 2006), John Fetterman (D, 2022)
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse (D, 2006), Aaron Regunberg (D, 2026)
South Carolina: Tim Scott (R, 2012), Nancy Mace (R, 2026)
South Dakota: John Thune (R, 2004), Paul TenHaken (R, 2026)
Tennessee: Bill Hagerty (R, 2020), David Kustoff (R, 2028)
Texas: Ted Cruz (R, 2012), James Talarico (D, 2026)
Utah: Mike Lee (R, 2010), Sean Reyes (R, 2024)
Vermont: Bernie Sanders (I/D, 2024), Becca Balint (D, 2028)
Virginia: Tim Kaine (D, 2012), Abigail Spanberger (D, 2026)
Washington: Maria Cantwell (D, 2000), Yasmin Trudeau (D, 2028)
West Virginia: Alex Mooney (R, 2024), Mary Lou Retton (R, 2026)
Wisconsin: Tammy Baldwin (D, 2012), Mike Gallagher (R, 2028)
Wyoming: Cynthia Lummis (R, 2020), Rachel Rodriguez-Williams (R, 2024)

 

[allthepresidentsmen]

Wayne Cabinet
State: Former U.N. Ambassador Pete Buttigieg (D-MI)
Treasury: Roosevelt Institute Climate Policy Director Rihana Gunn-Wright (D-IL)
Defense: Former U.S. Senator Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)
Attorney General: Former Lieutenant Governor Bill Halter (D-AR)
Interior: Former U.S. Representative Matt Cartwright (D-PA)
Agriculture: Nonprofit executive, 2024 gubernatorial nominee Cora Neumann (D-MT)
Commerce: Former FTC Chairwoman Lina Kahn (D-CT)
Labor: Former AFL-CIO President Liz Shuler (D-NY)
Health & Human Services: Former Governor Martin O'Malley (D-MD)
Housing & Urban Development: Former U.S. Representative Katie Porter (D-CA)
Transportation: Public health professor, civil servant, political organizer Dr. Abdul El-Sayed (D-MI)
Energy: Political professor, environmental policy researcher Leah Stokes (I-CA)
Education: Former U.S. Senator Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Veterans Affairs: Former Deputy Defense Secretary Gina Ortiz Jones (D-TX)
Homeland Security: Former HUD Secretary Julian Castro (D-TX)

White House Chief of Staff: Former U.S. Senator Chris Coons (D-DE)
Chief of Staff to the Vice President: State DNC Digital Director Liam Watson (D-VA)
DNC Chair: Former Lieutenant Governor, 2022 senate nominee Mandela Barnes (D-WI)