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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Prime Counsels to the Incorporated Kingdoms of Britannia from the Home Islands ("Home Counsel") 1813-1900
Rhobert Owain (Liberation majority (Commons)/Liberation-Free Trade League agreement (Lords)) 1813-1820
Willam Pytte "the Yonge Man" (Association of Societies, appointed by High King) 1820-1823
Rhobert Owain (Liberation majority (Commons)/Liberation-Free Trade League agreement (Lords)) 1823-1825
Willam Pytte "the Yonge Man" (Association of Societies-Christian Labour agreement, appointed by High King) 1825-1828
Rhobert Owain (Liberation, appointed by High Queen, then Liberation majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1828-1834
Ioan Arien (Liberation majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1834-1837
John Copley (Association of Societies, appointed by High King) 1837-1839
Éinrí Tempeall (Free Trade League, appointed by High King, then Free Trade League-led "Ministry of All the Talents") 1839-1851
Willam Gleddestan (Association of Societies-led "Ministry of All the Talents", then minority (Commons)/majority (Lords) 1851-1855
Willam Lovett (Liberation-Free Trade League-Christian Labour agreement) 1855-1859
Willam Gleddestan (Socialist majority) 1859-1861*
Fox Maule (Thistle-led Socialist majority) 1861-1862
Dale Owain (Liberation, appointed by High Queen, then Liberation majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1862-1867
Joachim Göschen (Free Trade League minority supported by "Patriotic Socialists") 1867-1873
Jon Bright (Free Trade League minority supported by Liberation) 1873-1877
Tom Mann (Liberation minority, appointed by High King, then majority (Commons)/minority (Lords) 1877-1883
Randolph Spencer (Socialist minority supported by "Lemonites") 1883-1885
Tom Mann (Liberation minority, appointed by High King, then minority (Commons/Lords/Womens) 1885-1888
Randolph Spencer (Socialist appointed by High King, then Socialist minority (Commons & Womens)/majority (Lords)) 1888-1894
Fionn de Bhilde (Fine Gael-led Free Trade League-Liberation-Social Unionist agreement) 1894-1900

Prime Counsels to the Incorporated Kingdoms of Britannia from the American Colonies ("American Counsel") 1813-1900
Jon Adams "the Yonge Man" (Association of Societies majority (Commons/Lords)) 1813-1819
Alasdair MacIain (Folkist majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1819-1824
Jon Adams "the Yonge Man" (Association of Societies majority (Commons/Lords)) 1824-1829
Alasdair MacIain (Folkist majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1829-1832
Harri Pridd (Association of Societies, appointed by High King, then majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1832-1839
Iain Còmhghan (Redcoat minority (Commons/Lords) 1839-1842
--- vacant: no American Counsel appointed due to Redcoat Rebellion 1842-1846 ---
Hamish Buchan (Association of Societies majority (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1846-1853
Francis Pierce (Liberation-Folkist agreement (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1853-1859
Alasdair Stiobhan (Association of Societies, appointed by High King, then Socialist minority (Commons)/majority (Lords)) 1859-1867
Willam MacMathuna (Liberation, appointed by High Queen, then Liberation-Folkist agreement (Commons)/minority (Lords)) 1867-1873
Alasdair Stiobhan (Socialist majority (Commons/Lords)) 1873-1875
Iain MacDonald (Socialist majority (Commons/Lords)) 1875-1879
Tegid Powell (Liberation-Folkist agreement (Commons)/with Free Trade League (Lords)) 1879-1884
Iain MacDonald (Socialist minority (Commons)/Lords)) 1884-1887
Tegid Powell (Liberation-Folkist-Free Trade League agreement) 1887-1891
Iain MacDonald (Socialist, appointed by High King, then majority (Commons)/minority (Lords & Trades)) 1891-1894*
Steven Cleveland (Socialist majority (Commons)/minority (Lords & Trades)) 1894-1895
Willam Jennings (Social Unionist-Liberation-Folkist-Free Trade League agreement (Commons & Trades)/minority (Lords)) 1895-1900

Prime Counsels to the Incorporated Kingdoms of Britannia after the Act of Reconciliation of 1900 (1900-1934)
Willam Jennings (Social Unionist-Free Trade League-Liberation agreement) 1900-1903
Charles Laurier (Free Trade League-Liberation agreement (Commons/Trades/Womens)/minority (Lords)) 1903-1911
James Uilleam (Socialist majority, then Socialist-led "Ministry of All the Talents") 1911-1916*
Winston Spencer (Socialist-led "Ministry of All the Talents") 1916-1919
Willam Haywood (Liberation majority (Commons/Trades/Womens)/minority (Lords)) 1919-1924
Winston Spencer ("High King's Men"-led "Anti-Labourist Agreement", appointed by High King) 1924-1927
--- no Prime Counsel appointed, Parliament suspended, power goes to military 1927-1930 ---
Willam Haywood (Liberation-led "Ministry of Transformation") 1930-1934

Presidents of the Incorporated States of Britain, America and Oceania (1934-1943)
Willam Haywood (Liberation-Folkist agreement, then Libertarian majority) 1934-1938*
Micheal Sauvage (Libertarian majority) 1938-1941
Victor Barker (Bindist-Cooperation-National Libertarian agreement (Commons)/non-existent (Trades)) 1941-1943

Leaders of the Incorporated Nations of Britannia (1943-1947)
Victor Barker (Bindist-Socialist "National Pact") 1943-1945**
Carl Lindbergh (Bindist-Socialist "National Pact") 1945-1947

Presidents of the Incorporated Kingdoms of Britannia (1947-) after the Restoration
Ellen Rosenveld (Libertarian-Free Trade League agreement) 1947-

With the return of the Libertarians to government after finally finding an understanding with the royalists in order to take down the Bindists, the Socialists would have to enter a few uncomfortable years in opposition due to their working with the Bindist government in the National Pact and ensure that they make their socialism more of a social-ism in order to win in the more "social contract" era heralded by the Restoration.

Despite the fact that the Bindist government was led by Britain's first shiftwise leader, there seems to be no wave of reaction against MDS rights, mostly because there were a few prominent MDS people in the resistance that curbed any possible reactionary elements, and the new government being headed by a matchy woman certainly helps shield against that. With the new President (Prime Counsel was too tainted by the absolutist regime) being a keen technocrat, the Libertarians seek to build up a new Britain of technological advancement. The burgeoning Intralink is the core of the hopes and dreams of a shattered country that they can blaze forward into a bright future of progress.

With the House of Women being abolished in the 1930s in favour of an united franchise, some say that it is the turn of the House of Lords. Deprived of their ability to influence who becomes the leader, in favour of a simple revising function, those people say that three chambers is too much and that the need to abolish it so that it becomes a purely democratic parliament of the Houses of Commons and Trades has became acute.

Yet others float the dangerous idea that possibly, possibly, Britain has became too big. The Home Islands, the vast majority of North America, scattered lands elsewhere and almost all of the Pacific including all of Oceania, is it any wonder the old way of doing things were to essentially split up government into "Home" and "Away"? Devolution helps, no doubt, but the idea remains.

Has Britain became too great? And can the Celts and Saxons [and of course, the immigrants in North America] remain together in peace?
 
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Is there a reason why trans people seem to have accelerated their progress by the best part of a century in this world? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely curious because I was thinking about doing a list with a 20th century POD that has LGBT issues surface and be progressed much earlier on than they were IOTL.
 
Mumby said:
Is there a reason why trans people seem to have accelerated their progress by the best part of a century in this world? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely curious because I was thinking about doing a list with a 20th century POD that has LGBT issues surface and be progressed much earlier on than they were IOTL.
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Well, the PoD was in like, the 5th century or so, and I thought it would be a nice difference to the standard "LGBT rights only become a Thing in the late 20th century". Here, it is a major issue circa the mid-19th century and has a vastly different conversation in that about it. Hence why Oscar Wilde could become leader or so. But really, I just wanted a world where social issues were more advanced than OTL, that's really all I have for an explanation.
 
Turquoise Blue said:
Well, the PoD was in like, the 5th century or so, and I thought it would be a nice difference to the standard "LGBT rights only become a Thing in the late 20th century". Here, it is a major issue circa the mid-19th century and has a vastly different conversation in that about it. Hence why Oscar Wilde could become leader or so. But really, I just wanted a world where social issues were more advanced than OTL, that's really all I have for an explanation.
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Cool! :)
 
Mumby said:
Is there a reason why trans people seem to have accelerated their progress by the best part of a century in this world? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely curious because I was thinking about doing a list with a 20th century POD that has LGBT issues surface and be progressed much earlier on than they were IOTL.
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In the 20s and 30s OTL great progress was made on trans rights in Germany, with cross-dresser passes and surgeries, support groups and real research done into the condition.

Then this happened
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And the world lost the biggest collection of research into the trans condition and many leading activists and simultaneously things got a lot more staid and controlled and... well... war focused, world-wide.

OTL is a world where we lost an unimaginably valuable wealth of knowledge on LGBT life at a crucial moment, and also a world where twice global trade and openness and liberty were pushed back by massive global crisises. And when that ended, half the world closed itself off into ideological dictatorship, with fear and xenophobia on both sides.

Any world where the 20th century is different and doesn't end in nuclear war has a strong chance of being better than OTL for LGBT rights
 
Heads of State and Government of the Commune of France (till 1948) then Union of French Socialist Councils (1948 – 1998)

Chairman of the Council of Labour

Sebastian Faure (Anarchist) (1928 – 1936)

Ludovic-Oscar Frossard (Orthodox Jacobin) (1936 – 1940)

Marcel Deat (Jacobin Vanguard) (1940 – 1948)

Council of Labour dissolved – Head of State now General Secretary of French Communist Party (Marxist/Leninist/Deatist)

Jacques Duclos (Communist MLD) (1948 – 1970)

Waldeck Rochet (Communist MLD) (1970 – 1977)

Roland Gaucher (Neo Deatist) (1977 – 1998)

French Communist Party overthrown – reorganisation of State in French Democratic Socialist Republic – Head of State now President of the FDSR

Jean-Luc Mélenchon (Radical Socialist) (1998 – XXXX)

Chairman of the Committee of Public Safety

Marceau Pivert (Travailleur) (1930 – 1936)

Jacques Duclos (Communist MLD) (1936 – 1948)

Public Safety Committee dissolved – Head of Government now Chairman of Council of Ministers

Adrien Marquet (Communist MLD) (1948 – 1952)

Waldeck Rochet (Communist MLD) (1952 – 1959)

Pierre Laval (Communist MLD)(1959 – 1962)

Henri Barbe (Communist MLD) (1962 – 1966)

Waldeck Rochet (Communist MLD) (1966 – 1970)

Armando Cossutta (Communist MLD) (1970 – 1981)

Roger Garaudy (Neo Deatist) (1981 – 1990)

Jean-Marie Le Pen (Neo Deatist) (1990 – 1998)

Chairman of Council of Ministers dissolved – Head of Government now First Minister

Lionel Jospin (Radical Socialist) (1998 – XXXX)
 
I have been trying to do a "British Lord Protectorate as Roman Empire", inspired by the fact that Emperor as a title came about as none of the Emperor wanted to claim to be a King, because opposition to monarchy was this big founding myth of Rome, and well into the Byzantine Empire, long after the deposition of Romulus Augustulus, there would still be these pretense that Rome was yet a Republic, and Emperor was merely a republican office. Consequently, the idea was going to be that Lord Protector over time becomes a King-in-all-but-name.

Problem was, I just such at finding the appropriate analogues. Oliver Cromwell as Julius Caesar is a given, but then, who to make into Augustus? Tiberius? Caligula? I give up... Anyone more knowledgeable than me is welcome to try.
 
AlfieJ said:
SDP are claiming they’ll be the dominant centre party in ten years

Someone do a filthy list
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2016-2019: Theresa May (Conservative)
2017 (Minority, with DUP confidence and supply) def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
2019-2022: Nick Boles ('National Interest' Conservative leading 'National Unity' Government with Scottish Nationals, Liberal Democrats and 'National Interest' Labour)
2019 EU referendum, Remain 51%
2022-2023: Boris Johnson (Patriot-Conservative)
2022 (Patriotic Alliance with DUP and SDP) def. Cat Smith (Labour), Nick Boles (National Interest Coalition - National-Conservatives, Scottish National, Liberal Democrats, Progressives), Tommy Sheppard (Together Scotland!), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
2023-2024: Michael Gove (Patriot-Conservative leading Emergency Government with Democratic Unionists and Social Democrats, with support from National Unity)
2024-2025: Tommy Robinson (Democratic Unionist leading Emergency Government with Patriot-Conservatives)
2025-2029: Cat Smith (Labour)
2025 (Tripartite Coalition with SDP and National Unity) def. Liam Stokes (Social Democratic), Nigel Farage (Patriotic Alliance), Chuka Umunna (National Unity), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
2029-2034: Liam Stokes (Social Democratic)
2029 (Majority) def. Cat Smith (Labour), Raheem Kassam (Patriotic Alliance), Ruth Davidson (Progressive Unionist), April Preston (Liberal Values Movement), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
 
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2016-2019: Theresa May (Conservative)
2017 (Minority, with DUP confidence and supply) def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
2019-2022: Nick Boles ('National Interest' Conservative leading 'National Unity' Government with Scottish Nationals, Liberal Democrats and 'National Interest' Labour)
2019 EU referendum, Remain 51%
2022-2023: Boris Johnson (Patriot-Conservative)
2022 (Patriotic Alliance with DUP and SDP) def. Cat Smith (Labour), Nick Boles (National Interest Coalition - National-Conservatives, Scottish National, Liberal Democrats, Progressives), Tommy Sheppard (Together Scotland!), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
2023-2024: Michael Gove (Patriot-Conservative leading Emergency Government with Democratic Unionists and Social Democrats, with support from National Unity)
2024-2025: Tommy Robinson (Democratic Unionist leading Emergency Government with Patriot-Conservatives)
2025-2029: Cat Smith (Labour)
2025 (Tripartite Coalition with SDP and National Unity) def. Liam Stokes (Social Democratic), Nigel Farage (Patriotic Alliance), Chuka Umunna (National Unity), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
2029-2034: Liam Stokes (Social Democratic)
2029 (Majority) def. Cat Smith (Labour), Raheem Kassam (Patriotic Alliance), Ruth Davidson (Progressive Unionist), April Preston (Liberal Values Movement), Mary Lou MacDonald (Sinn Fein)
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i did this and then this morning i find out the grantham and stamford tories are moving to deselect nick boles so i guess this is out of the window

just sub in woke soubs idk
 
Ares96 said:
You know, however odd Britain-Hannover was, Britain-Sardinia would've been absolutely mental.
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Can you imagine if they end up forming a personal union with Corsica afterwards? And maybe press a claim to Sicily?

I mean we could have 'Britain' and a Kingdom of Sardinia that includes Savoy, Piedmonte, Corsica, Sicily, Malta, Majorca and Gibraltar.
 
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