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- he/him
I like this, very interesting stuff.
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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State
- Thread starter Mumby
- Start date
Fascinating.
A more moderate Stuart monarchy, with much of the power with parliament, no William of Orange and no Hanovernians. A very different country.
I wonder how this looks to the rest of Europe? In OTL France is towards the end of the Ancienne Regime, and Maria Theresa headed the Hapsburgs.
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Incidentally,here’s a lists of Chancellors I thought of:
1682-1696 Henry Booth (Hats)
1696-1702 Thomas Osborne (Whig)
1702-1717 Robert Harley (Whig)
1717-1745 Robert Walpole (Hats)
1745-1748 Thomas Pelham (Hats)
1748-175x Thomas Penn (Hats-Radicals Coalition)
- Location
- Sandford, Gloucestershire
- Pronouns
- She/They
With apologies to folks who supported this TL. I just dont have the brainpower for it so here is
2010-2015: David Cameron (Conservative (303)-Liberal Democrat (53) Coalition)
2015-October 2017: Ed Miliband (Labour minority (281) with SNP Supply 2nd Confidence (45))
“The Union preserved: New Powers for Scotland”
“A Betrayal: Miliband hands over power to Sturgeon”
“Arise Lord Senators”
“SNP Back Bench rebellion puts Labour’s minority in peril”
“Miliband “election will strengthen my hand” “
“Miliband forced to the polls
Oct 2017-2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative (354)
“Johnson elected on promise of in out EU referendum”
“First Elections for Lords see massive gains for UKIP, as well as Lib Dems and Greens,”
2019 Brexit Referendum: 53% Leave
“FREEDOM FROM BRUSSELS”
“Boris Triggers Article 50 despite Covid warnings”
“Partygate: Did Downing street hold lockdown celebrations”
“Transition deal agreed with just 10 days to go”
“Farage: deal is betrayal of Brexit values”
“Boris hopes of Brexit deal dashed on rocks of corruption,”
“Boris: Let me get Brexit Done”
2022-Present: Emily Thornbury (Labour (310) with Liberal Democrat Supply and Confidence)
“BACK TO 2015?!: Labour fail to secure majority,”
"UKIP collapse fails to materialise in Lords but Lib Dems move to Third place"
"Odd Bedfellows: Farage and Davey launch joint campaign for Commons reform"
“Resurgent Lib Dems to have key say in final Brexit Deal,”
“We’re out! But We’re in: Britain leaves EU, stays in Free Trade alignment,”
“BETRAYAL”
“For Want of a Sarnie”
Or
“Chaos with Ed Miliband”
Or
“Chaos with Ed Miliband”
2010-2015: David Cameron (Conservative (303)-Liberal Democrat (53) Coalition)
2015-October 2017: Ed Miliband (Labour minority (281) with SNP Supply 2nd Confidence (45))
“The Union preserved: New Powers for Scotland”
“A Betrayal: Miliband hands over power to Sturgeon”
“Arise Lord Senators”
“SNP Back Bench rebellion puts Labour’s minority in peril”
“Miliband “election will strengthen my hand” “
“Miliband forced to the polls
Oct 2017-2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative (354)
“Johnson elected on promise of in out EU referendum”
“First Elections for Lords see massive gains for UKIP, as well as Lib Dems and Greens,”
2019 Brexit Referendum: 53% Leave
“FREEDOM FROM BRUSSELS”
“Boris Triggers Article 50 despite Covid warnings”
“Partygate: Did Downing street hold lockdown celebrations”
“Transition deal agreed with just 10 days to go”
“Farage: deal is betrayal of Brexit values”
“Boris hopes of Brexit deal dashed on rocks of corruption,”
“Boris: Let me get Brexit Done”
2022-Present: Emily Thornbury (Labour (310) with Liberal Democrat Supply and Confidence)
“BACK TO 2015?!: Labour fail to secure majority,”
"UKIP collapse fails to materialise in Lords but Lib Dems move to Third place"
"Odd Bedfellows: Farage and Davey launch joint campaign for Commons reform"
“Resurgent Lib Dems to have key say in final Brexit Deal,”
“We’re out! But We’re in: Britain leaves EU, stays in Free Trade alignment,”
“BETRAYAL”
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
1993 - 1996: Paul Tsongas (Democratic)
1992 (With Bob Graham) def. George H. W. Bush (Republican)
1996 - 1997: Bob Graham (Democratic)
1997 - 2001: Lamar Alexander (Republican)
1996 (With John Engler) def. Bob Graham (Democratic), Pat Buchanan (Independent)
2001 - : John Kerry (Democratic)
2000 (With Alan Wheat) def. Lamar Alexander (Republican)
As America awkwardly fumbles into it’s new millennium, many will look back upon the 90s with a sense of bewilderment. I’m sure Blue Collar Bob will be burning his Buchanan 96’ t-shirt and Greg from accounting will swear that he was never a Tsongas - Alexander voter, no siree.
Maybe this state of embarrassment can be answered by the fact that the 90s started off, somewhat hopeful. The Berlin Wall had fallen down, Iraq had been punched in the nose and then the Soviet Union became a pile of rubble and we all felt very pleased for ourselves.
But as that age old mantra goes; “It’s the Economy, Stupid!”
And Bush well we said he wouldn’t raise Taxes, and then did. He also pushed forward NAFTA which brought out a whole bunch of oddities out of the wood work, one of them being Paul Tsongas.
Now when Tsongas appeared the Democratic Party shuddered because everyone was envisioning a rerun for Dukakis; you know Greek Wonky Liberal from Massachusetts. Now this would prove unfair, mainly because Tsongas had ideas, lots of them, in fact enough to make a Presidential run. Also Tsongas had a sense of humour and a sort of weird anti-charisma, also he loved swimming which…errr that was something.
So the parallels between Dukakis and Tsongas quickly evaporated, mainly because Tsongas turned out to be a massive Economic Nationalist. Indeed his theme was this, America just wasn’t supporting it’s economy, it’s jobs, it’s people, that jobs were being sucked up by Japan and Germany.
Now his proposals also included reducing the deficit, balanced budgets and tax cuts for Businesses, so he pissed off Labor and Liberals but that didn’t matter when folks like Ross Perot endorse you. The great white hope, Billy Boy would be dashed upon the rocks of being kind of shit, and in the end Tsongas insurgent campaign won.
But it wasn’t like he would win again surely, he was an oddity, a Liberal who said he didn’t want to be ‘Santa Claus’.
He was a wimp, compared to George Bush who had just snapped Saddam’s Spine against his leg.
He was a phoney, secretly he would get into government and open up the taps.
He was a strange, he didn’t really have friends and was just kind of awkward.
His ideas would destroy the economy.
And then he won the Presidency.
People were surprised, but Tsongas wasn’t, he knew that his campaign of Big Ideas would win through. The people were tired of empty promises, they wanted action.
In the end Tsongas, sort of delivered on that promise.
It would be said that he did certainly cut spending, welfare, not particularly plentiful in the first place, continued to become a desert, which was at least balanced out by a surprise gutting of defence spending. America entered a Trade War with Japan, which certainly helped its economy crash even harder than expected. The Tax Breaks and Investment for Business did a lot to annoy Labor, whilst the attempts to repeal NAFTA did a lot to annoy business. Democrats in Congress weren’t fond of his rhetoric or ideas and often sparred with the President.
Folks weren’t particularly happy, but Tsongas was for the most part able to run the nation alright and the Democrats continued to stumble along as the decade continued.
Then Tsongas announced, abruptly at the beginning of 1996 that he was resigning. His cancer had returned, and he wanted to spend his remaining days with his family instead of governing the nation.
Bob Graham suddenly found himself shoved into a position that he didn’t particularly expect to be in.Graham won the Democratic nomination, but he would be attacked on his Left by Larry Agran who ran an insurgency campaign after the surprisingly respectable result he had gained beforehand.
Graham was relatively unprepared for the campaign but put up a decent fight but his ability to cruise into the White House were interrupted by the Republicans nominating Lamar Alexander.
Alexander’s campaign was a surprise success story. His folksy campaigning style, with his long walks, seemingly outsider status and red flannel seemed refreshing. He couldn’t for a while afford negative attacks ads, so his ads were based around ideas and positive messages, whilst a red eyed Bob Dole alternated between stiff and angry and Pat Buchanan when on populist screeds aimed at those ‘left behind’, Lamar’s seemingly eccentric campaigning would end up paying off in the end.
Whilst the appearance of Pat Buchanan seemed initially like a wrench in his plans, with Lamar just narrowly beating him, the Independent run of Buchanan was surprising for it’s aggressive attempts to the White Working Class with Buchanan’s Populist demagoguery calling in mind George Wallace.
Lamar won, primarily by portraying himself as the man who would govern responsibly and sensibly, Graham would be in the pockets of the Liberals and Left, Buchanan was fucking nuts.
Somehow this pitch worked and Alexander narrowly won, he had lost the popular vote but that didn’t matter.
Now no longer the folksy campaigner, Alexander actually had to deal with governance.
It turned out that Tax Cuts and Welfare Reform would be the order of the day. This would be temporarily popular with the Middle Classes, as Alexander additionally avoid dealing with Social issues that much, as the Right of his party howled for Alexander to roll back Roe Vs Wade, ban Gays from the military and generally implement there Social Conservative agenda. Alexander didn’t do that, but he didn’t push forward social issues in any meaningful ways.
Whilst Alexander said he was a Compassionate Conservative, words that echoed Tsongas’s talk of a ‘Passionate Centre’, really his time in office was similar in content to Bush’s period. Not helping matter was the economy around 1999 entering a recession as problems in Russia and Asia lead to out breaks of economic woes across those nations. The chickens were coming back home to roost.
Alexander was fairly unpopular, but still the Democrats were apprehensive. They had come back to power after over a decade in the wilderness and just as suddenly they had lost it. The question for many was who could be the one to bring the Democrats out of the wilderness.
The party looked far and wide, Wellstone, Gephardt, Biden, Gore and Moseley Braun would all put up decent efforts, though in the end the party would go with a safe option.
John Kerry was a Liberal, but not too Liberal. He was a War Hero, who had also become activist against the Vietnam War. He knew the Kennedy’s. He was also from the same state of Tsongas but had a different vibe, more laid back, more friendly.
Kerry won because his pitch was good, he seemed like the person who could defeat Alexander. His choice of Alan Wheat, a Senator from the same state as runner up Gephardt and the first black Vice Presidential candidate from a major party, Kerry seemed to be offering a different image for the Democratic Party.
And so he fought Alexander for the Presidency, he was hard going, but in the end, Alexander wasn’t able to turn on the Folksy Outsider charm he had once pitched to the American public. He was an Insider, and someone who was leading a country going to the dogs it seemed.
Kerry promised jobs, stability and prosperity, though even then it was a tough fight. Kerry managed to narrowly win, a couple of states flipping different and it would have gone to Alexander but in the end, Kerry had done it.
Now looking into the New Millennium, everyone has decided that politics will finally get back to normal. Nothing will rock the nation politically as the last eight years.
But as most people thought this, some in different parts saw differently. They were going to send a message, one that Pat Buchanan had accidentally let loose some time before, but this time the message was going to be heard loud and clear…
1992 (With Bob Graham) def. George H. W. Bush (Republican)
1996 - 1997: Bob Graham (Democratic)
1997 - 2001: Lamar Alexander (Republican)
1996 (With John Engler) def. Bob Graham (Democratic), Pat Buchanan (Independent)
2001 - : John Kerry (Democratic)
2000 (With Alan Wheat) def. Lamar Alexander (Republican)
As America awkwardly fumbles into it’s new millennium, many will look back upon the 90s with a sense of bewilderment. I’m sure Blue Collar Bob will be burning his Buchanan 96’ t-shirt and Greg from accounting will swear that he was never a Tsongas - Alexander voter, no siree.
Maybe this state of embarrassment can be answered by the fact that the 90s started off, somewhat hopeful. The Berlin Wall had fallen down, Iraq had been punched in the nose and then the Soviet Union became a pile of rubble and we all felt very pleased for ourselves.
But as that age old mantra goes; “It’s the Economy, Stupid!”
And Bush well we said he wouldn’t raise Taxes, and then did. He also pushed forward NAFTA which brought out a whole bunch of oddities out of the wood work, one of them being Paul Tsongas.
Now when Tsongas appeared the Democratic Party shuddered because everyone was envisioning a rerun for Dukakis; you know Greek Wonky Liberal from Massachusetts. Now this would prove unfair, mainly because Tsongas had ideas, lots of them, in fact enough to make a Presidential run. Also Tsongas had a sense of humour and a sort of weird anti-charisma, also he loved swimming which…errr that was something.
So the parallels between Dukakis and Tsongas quickly evaporated, mainly because Tsongas turned out to be a massive Economic Nationalist. Indeed his theme was this, America just wasn’t supporting it’s economy, it’s jobs, it’s people, that jobs were being sucked up by Japan and Germany.
Now his proposals also included reducing the deficit, balanced budgets and tax cuts for Businesses, so he pissed off Labor and Liberals but that didn’t matter when folks like Ross Perot endorse you. The great white hope, Billy Boy would be dashed upon the rocks of being kind of shit, and in the end Tsongas insurgent campaign won.
But it wasn’t like he would win again surely, he was an oddity, a Liberal who said he didn’t want to be ‘Santa Claus’.
He was a wimp, compared to George Bush who had just snapped Saddam’s Spine against his leg.
He was a phoney, secretly he would get into government and open up the taps.
He was a strange, he didn’t really have friends and was just kind of awkward.
His ideas would destroy the economy.
And then he won the Presidency.
People were surprised, but Tsongas wasn’t, he knew that his campaign of Big Ideas would win through. The people were tired of empty promises, they wanted action.
In the end Tsongas, sort of delivered on that promise.
It would be said that he did certainly cut spending, welfare, not particularly plentiful in the first place, continued to become a desert, which was at least balanced out by a surprise gutting of defence spending. America entered a Trade War with Japan, which certainly helped its economy crash even harder than expected. The Tax Breaks and Investment for Business did a lot to annoy Labor, whilst the attempts to repeal NAFTA did a lot to annoy business. Democrats in Congress weren’t fond of his rhetoric or ideas and often sparred with the President.
Folks weren’t particularly happy, but Tsongas was for the most part able to run the nation alright and the Democrats continued to stumble along as the decade continued.
Then Tsongas announced, abruptly at the beginning of 1996 that he was resigning. His cancer had returned, and he wanted to spend his remaining days with his family instead of governing the nation.
Bob Graham suddenly found himself shoved into a position that he didn’t particularly expect to be in.Graham won the Democratic nomination, but he would be attacked on his Left by Larry Agran who ran an insurgency campaign after the surprisingly respectable result he had gained beforehand.
Graham was relatively unprepared for the campaign but put up a decent fight but his ability to cruise into the White House were interrupted by the Republicans nominating Lamar Alexander.
Alexander’s campaign was a surprise success story. His folksy campaigning style, with his long walks, seemingly outsider status and red flannel seemed refreshing. He couldn’t for a while afford negative attacks ads, so his ads were based around ideas and positive messages, whilst a red eyed Bob Dole alternated between stiff and angry and Pat Buchanan when on populist screeds aimed at those ‘left behind’, Lamar’s seemingly eccentric campaigning would end up paying off in the end.
Whilst the appearance of Pat Buchanan seemed initially like a wrench in his plans, with Lamar just narrowly beating him, the Independent run of Buchanan was surprising for it’s aggressive attempts to the White Working Class with Buchanan’s Populist demagoguery calling in mind George Wallace.
Lamar won, primarily by portraying himself as the man who would govern responsibly and sensibly, Graham would be in the pockets of the Liberals and Left, Buchanan was fucking nuts.
Somehow this pitch worked and Alexander narrowly won, he had lost the popular vote but that didn’t matter.
Now no longer the folksy campaigner, Alexander actually had to deal with governance.
It turned out that Tax Cuts and Welfare Reform would be the order of the day. This would be temporarily popular with the Middle Classes, as Alexander additionally avoid dealing with Social issues that much, as the Right of his party howled for Alexander to roll back Roe Vs Wade, ban Gays from the military and generally implement there Social Conservative agenda. Alexander didn’t do that, but he didn’t push forward social issues in any meaningful ways.
Whilst Alexander said he was a Compassionate Conservative, words that echoed Tsongas’s talk of a ‘Passionate Centre’, really his time in office was similar in content to Bush’s period. Not helping matter was the economy around 1999 entering a recession as problems in Russia and Asia lead to out breaks of economic woes across those nations. The chickens were coming back home to roost.
Alexander was fairly unpopular, but still the Democrats were apprehensive. They had come back to power after over a decade in the wilderness and just as suddenly they had lost it. The question for many was who could be the one to bring the Democrats out of the wilderness.
The party looked far and wide, Wellstone, Gephardt, Biden, Gore and Moseley Braun would all put up decent efforts, though in the end the party would go with a safe option.
John Kerry was a Liberal, but not too Liberal. He was a War Hero, who had also become activist against the Vietnam War. He knew the Kennedy’s. He was also from the same state of Tsongas but had a different vibe, more laid back, more friendly.
Kerry won because his pitch was good, he seemed like the person who could defeat Alexander. His choice of Alan Wheat, a Senator from the same state as runner up Gephardt and the first black Vice Presidential candidate from a major party, Kerry seemed to be offering a different image for the Democratic Party.
And so he fought Alexander for the Presidency, he was hard going, but in the end, Alexander wasn’t able to turn on the Folksy Outsider charm he had once pitched to the American public. He was an Insider, and someone who was leading a country going to the dogs it seemed.
Kerry promised jobs, stability and prosperity, though even then it was a tough fight. Kerry managed to narrowly win, a couple of states flipping different and it would have gone to Alexander but in the end, Kerry had done it.
Now looking into the New Millennium, everyone has decided that politics will finally get back to normal. Nothing will rock the nation politically as the last eight years.
But as most people thought this, some in different parts saw differently. They were going to send a message, one that Pat Buchanan had accidentally let loose some time before, but this time the message was going to be heard loud and clear…
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American Socialism is a left-wing ideology prominent in the United States. American Socialism is different from most forms of socialism in that it believes that the state must secure and protect individual and civil liberties in order to protect the rights of the working class. Therefore, the main economic forces behind American Socialism are those of small and medium-sized businesses. American Socialism has also scrapped the concept of completely equal wealth distribution in favor of a model that encourages hard work. They believe that the state should subsidize or provide a basic standard of living- including education, healthcare, food, and housing- while individuals are able to advance to the equivalent of over $2.5 Million per year through effort. It is the official ideology of the Social Democratic Party of America, and has large amounts of influence over other left wing parties around the world.
PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
37. Barry M. Goldwater (R) - January 20, 1969 - Janauary 20, 1977
38. Ronald W. Reagan (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981 (Acting from Oct-Dec 1976 after assassination attempt on Pres. Goldwater)
39. Walter P. Reuther (SD) - January 20, 1981 - April 5, 1987
41. Albert A. Gore Jr. (SD) - April 5, 1987 - January 20, 1993
42. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
43. William J. Clinton (SD) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
44. Ronald E. Paul (FP) - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
45. Bernard B. Sanders (SD) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
46. Barbara J. Lee (SD) - January 20, 2017 - August 11, 2018
47. Thomas F. Steyer (SD) - August 11, 2018 - January 20, 2021
48. William F. Weld (FP) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
VICE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
38. William E. Miller (R) - January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
39. Spiro T. Agnew (R) - January 20, 1973 - August 8, 1974
VACANT: August 8, 1974 - November 11, 1974
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R) - November 11, 1974 - January 20, 1977
41. Donald H. Rumsfeld (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
42. Hugh L. Carey (SD) - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985
43. Albert A. Gore Jr. (SD) - January 20, 1985 - April 5, 1987
VACANT: April 5, 1987 - May 31, 1987
44. John H. Glenn Jr. (SD) - May 31, 1987 - January 20, 1989
45. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
46. William J. Clinton (SD) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
47. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (SD) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
48. John S. McCain III (FP) - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
49. Barbara J. Lee (SD) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
50. Thomas F. Steyer (SD) - January 20, 2017 - August 11, 2018
VACANT: August 11, 2018 - January 2, 2019
51. Lucy H. Koh (SD) - January 2, 2019 - January 20, 2021
52. Kirsten E. Gillibrand (FP) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
SPEAKERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:
45. John W. McCormack (D) - January 10, 1962 - January 3, 1969
46. Gerald R. Ford (R) - January 3, 1969 - January 3, 1971
47. Morris K. Udall (SD) - January 3, 1971 - January 3, 1977
48. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 3, 1977 - August 1, 1988
49. Thomas P. O'Neill (SD) - August 1, 1988 - January 3, 1989
50. Bernard B. Sanders (SD) - January 3, 1989 - January 3, 1999
51. Paul D. Wellstone (SD) - January 3, 1999 - January 3, 2003
52. Nancy G. Johnson (FP) - January 3, 2003 - January 3, 2005
53. Barnett B. Frank (SD) - January 3, 2005 - January 3, 2015
54. John A. Boehner (FP) - January 3, 2015 - January 3, 2017
55. Tulsi S. Gabbard (SD) - January 3, 2017 - January 3, 2019
56. John A. Boehner (FP) - January 3, 2019 - January 3, 2021
57. Jacob D. Auchincloss (SD) - January 3, 2021 - Incumbent
PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
37. Barry M. Goldwater (R) - January 20, 1969 - Janauary 20, 1977
38. Ronald W. Reagan (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981 (Acting from Oct-Dec 1976 after assassination attempt on Pres. Goldwater)
39. Walter P. Reuther (SD) - January 20, 1981 - April 5, 1987
41. Albert A. Gore Jr. (SD) - April 5, 1987 - January 20, 1993
42. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
43. William J. Clinton (SD) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
44. Ronald E. Paul (FP) - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
45. Bernard B. Sanders (SD) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
46. Barbara J. Lee (SD) - January 20, 2017 - August 11, 2018
47. Thomas F. Steyer (SD) - August 11, 2018 - January 20, 2021
48. William F. Weld (FP) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
VICE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
38. William E. Miller (R) - January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
39. Spiro T. Agnew (R) - January 20, 1973 - August 8, 1974
VACANT: August 8, 1974 - November 11, 1974
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R) - November 11, 1974 - January 20, 1977
41. Donald H. Rumsfeld (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
42. Hugh L. Carey (SD) - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985
43. Albert A. Gore Jr. (SD) - January 20, 1985 - April 5, 1987
VACANT: April 5, 1987 - May 31, 1987
44. John H. Glenn Jr. (SD) - May 31, 1987 - January 20, 1989
45. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
46. William J. Clinton (SD) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
47. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (SD) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
48. John S. McCain III (FP) - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
49. Barbara J. Lee (SD) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
50. Thomas F. Steyer (SD) - January 20, 2017 - August 11, 2018
VACANT: August 11, 2018 - January 2, 2019
51. Lucy H. Koh (SD) - January 2, 2019 - January 20, 2021
52. Kirsten E. Gillibrand (FP) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
SPEAKERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:
45. John W. McCormack (D) - January 10, 1962 - January 3, 1969
46. Gerald R. Ford (R) - January 3, 1969 - January 3, 1971
47. Morris K. Udall (SD) - January 3, 1971 - January 3, 1977
48. Elizabeth L. Holtzman (SD) - January 3, 1977 - August 1, 1988
49. Thomas P. O'Neill (SD) - August 1, 1988 - January 3, 1989
50. Bernard B. Sanders (SD) - January 3, 1989 - January 3, 1999
51. Paul D. Wellstone (SD) - January 3, 1999 - January 3, 2003
52. Nancy G. Johnson (FP) - January 3, 2003 - January 3, 2005
53. Barnett B. Frank (SD) - January 3, 2005 - January 3, 2015
54. John A. Boehner (FP) - January 3, 2015 - January 3, 2017
55. Tulsi S. Gabbard (SD) - January 3, 2017 - January 3, 2019
56. John A. Boehner (FP) - January 3, 2019 - January 3, 2021
57. Jacob D. Auchincloss (SD) - January 3, 2021 - Incumbent
Ten Highest HDIs:
MA: 0.977 (+0.028)
CA: 0.975 (+0.044)
CT: 0.968 (+0.020)
NH: 0.966 (+0.023)
CO: 0.965 (+0.023)
WA: 0.965 (+0.025)
NJ: 0.962 (+0.019)
VT: 0.960 (+0.025)
NY: 0.957 (+0.019)
DC: 0.957 (+0.017)
Ten Lowest HDIs:
MS: 0.894 (+0.038)
WV: 0.901 (+0.024)
AL: 0.903 (+0.022)
AR: 0.907 (+0.026)
KY: 0.907 (+0.023)
LA: 0.910 (+0.022)
SC: 0.915 (+0.022)
TN: 0.920 (+0.025)
OK: 0.921 (+0.025)
GA: 0.924 (+0.020)
NATIONAL POVERTY RATE (OTL STANDARDS) - 0.3%
ALLIANCES:
North Atlantic Treaty Organization
US-Canada Free Trade & Travel Zone
MA: 0.977 (+0.028)
CA: 0.975 (+0.044)
CT: 0.968 (+0.020)
NH: 0.966 (+0.023)
CO: 0.965 (+0.023)
WA: 0.965 (+0.025)
NJ: 0.962 (+0.019)
VT: 0.960 (+0.025)
NY: 0.957 (+0.019)
DC: 0.957 (+0.017)
Ten Lowest HDIs:
MS: 0.894 (+0.038)
WV: 0.901 (+0.024)
AL: 0.903 (+0.022)
AR: 0.907 (+0.026)
KY: 0.907 (+0.023)
LA: 0.910 (+0.022)
SC: 0.915 (+0.022)
TN: 0.920 (+0.025)
OK: 0.921 (+0.025)
GA: 0.924 (+0.020)
NATIONAL POVERTY RATE (OTL STANDARDS) - 0.3%
ALLIANCES:
North Atlantic Treaty Organization
US-Canada Free Trade & Travel Zone
PRIME MINISTERS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM:
Harold Wilson (LAB) - October 16, 1964 - June 8, 1973
'64 - Labour Majority of 1
'66 - Labour Majority of 98
'70 - Labour Majority of 5
Roy Jenkins (LAB) - June 8, 1973 - March 27, 1974
'73 - Labour Minority of 7
Peter Walker (CON) - March 27, 1974 - March 15, 1978
'74 - Conservative Minority of 2
Roy Jenkins (LAB) - March 15, 1978 - November 20, 1978
'78 - Labour Minority of 11
Michael Foot (LAB) - November 20, 1978 - April 25, 1991
'79 - Labour Majority of 25
'84 - Labour Majority of 41
'89 - Labour Majority of 15
Neil Kinnock (LAB) April 25, 1991 -
Harold Wilson (LAB) - October 16, 1964 - June 8, 1973
'64 - Labour Majority of 1
'66 - Labour Majority of 98
'70 - Labour Majority of 5
Roy Jenkins (LAB) - June 8, 1973 - March 27, 1974
'73 - Labour Minority of 7
Peter Walker (CON) - March 27, 1974 - March 15, 1978
'74 - Conservative Minority of 2
Roy Jenkins (LAB) - March 15, 1978 - November 20, 1978
'78 - Labour Minority of 11
Michael Foot (LAB) - November 20, 1978 - April 25, 1991
'79 - Labour Majority of 25
'84 - Labour Majority of 41
'89 - Labour Majority of 15
Neil Kinnock (LAB) April 25, 1991 -
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Baconheimer
Berserker of Chaos
- Location
- Democratic Republic of the Potomac
An idea I thought up while reading about Thomas Hart Benton's plans in the Mexican-American War.
1845-1849: James K. Polk (Democratic)
1844 (with George M. Dallas) def. Henry Clay and Theodore Frelinghuysen (Whig)
1849-1857: Thomas Hart Benton (Democratic)
1848 (with Levi Woodbury) def. Winfield Scott and Edward Bates (Whig), Joshua Giddings and Walter Booth (Free Soil)
1852 (with James Buchanan) def. various - replacing Daniel Webster and Thomas L. Clingman (Whig), Ovid Butler and Reuben M. Norton (Free Soil)
1857-1861: John Bell (Whig)
1856 (with Thomas Pratt) def. James Buchanan and Jefferson Davis (Democratic)
1861-present: John C. Frémont (Democratic)
1860 (with Jefferson Davis) def. Charles Sumner and John Bingham (Free Soil), Andrew B. Moore and James Chesnut (States Rights), Anthony Kennedy and Emerson Etheridge (Whig)
1864 (with Jefferson Davis) def. John Van Buren and Charles Francis Adams (Libertarian), Robert Toombs and Thomas Bragg (Southern Rights), Chatham Roberdeau Wheat and Horace Bell (Nicaragua Annexationist Democratic), Andrew Haswell Green and John M. Botts (Whig)
- Thomas Hart Benton is successful in having Polk appoint him as a Lieutenant General in 1846, having supreme control over the prosecution of the war in Mexico and over peace with Mexico. Benton does very little fighting in the war and only travels to Mexico City after Scott has captured it. Benton is much harsher on Mexico and succeeds in getting larger concessions from them.
- On this map, the US receives line 8 from the lower map and line 11 from the upper map except in regions covered by the lower map.
- Despite fighting very few battles, Benton is a national hero and takes the place of Zachary Taylor in the election of 1848. Benton wins over Winfield Scott, who has a grudge against Benton for winning fame despite doing very little actual fighting. Benton's populistic stances force Van Buren out of the race and the Free Soilers nominate a fairly
- Because Benton is part of the establishment, he does not take his unpopular OTL anti-slavery stances, and becomes a staunch supporter of popular sovereignty. Under Benton, the parties realign with the Jacksonian populists taking charge of the Democrats and an exodus of the most conservative slavers to the Whigs. Much of the south does remain loyal to the Democrats, and the age of Benton sees filibustering across the Caribbean. Client states are established in Central America, though there is enough opposition in Congress to prevent annexation. Benton's Democrats also enact policies allowing western settlement and two major homesteading bills are passed, giving white settlers cheap land, including in the Indian Territory.
- The Whigs are in an increasingly bad position due to a growing anti-slavery wing and a strong pro-slavery southern wing. 1852 is a massive defeat for the party as the nominee, Webster, dies after Election Day. Webster's cotton whig policies are off-putting and give Benton reelection. The Free Soil Party sticks around and siphons off votes from anti-slavery Whigs in the presidential election while also winning house seats that probably would have been within reach for the Whigs. The Whigs remain aligned with nativism throughout this period.
- In 1856, after twelve years of Democrats, the country again votes for a Whig. This time, they choose John Bell of Tennessee, a rare anti-slavery southerner running a moderate, fairly vapid campaign. Bell bills himself as the man to keep the country together, but once in office does very little of anything at all. He is unable to rein in the filibusters and the situation in the country deteriorates under his administration.
- In 1860, the Democrats have a natural choice for president: John C. Frémont. Son-in-law of former President Benton, Frémont was involved in the capture of California, filibustering in Honduras (though he was later thrown out by President Chatham Wheat), and now serves as Senator from Missouri. Frémont runs alongside Senator Davis of Mississippi, who ran with Buchanan in 1856. Davis sees the writing on the wall and supports gradual abolition of slavery and resettlement in Central America. With the opposition divided, Frémont and Davis win. Not all Democrats are happy with this choice, and a small pro-slavery run under Andrew B. Moore wins several southern states.
- John Bell sees the writing on the wall and does not run, citing the single-term Whig precedent. His successor is another fairly moderate border stater, Anthony Kennedy of Maryland. The party leadership has an appetite for this kind of candidate, but the northerners do not and the Free Soilers choose a candidate of their own, Senator Sumner of Massachusetts. Kennedy will flop and comes in fourth in the election.
- Frémont's administration is interesting. He is not a natural administrator and begins to gather power around himself and the presidency. He's able to do this because the Whigs implode and the Free Soilers develop into the Libertarians, a stronger party focused on ending slavery and expansionism. This leads to a Congress dominated by Democrats. Despite his despotic tendencies, Frémont is very popular and under him, Americans flock to the filibuster republics. Congress is close to a comprehensive plan to abolish slavery. All of this leads to Frémont cruising to reelection over several minor splinters and the Libertarians. The Whigs continue to limp along with a dozen seats and only a handful of old party regulars still in power.
- It's now the summer of 1866. Filibusters under the New Jerseyan McClellan have invaded Colombia, leading to condemnation from Europe and threat of British intervention. Vice President Davis, who has entered a role of the President's envoy to the Senate, has announced the completion of a scheme to abolish slavery by 1886 and the resettlement of those former slaves in Central America.
1845-1849: James K. Polk (Democratic)
1844 (with George M. Dallas) def. Henry Clay and Theodore Frelinghuysen (Whig)
1849-1857: Thomas Hart Benton (Democratic)
1848 (with Levi Woodbury) def. Winfield Scott and Edward Bates (Whig), Joshua Giddings and Walter Booth (Free Soil)
1852 (with James Buchanan) def. various - replacing Daniel Webster and Thomas L. Clingman (Whig), Ovid Butler and Reuben M. Norton (Free Soil)
1857-1861: John Bell (Whig)
1856 (with Thomas Pratt) def. James Buchanan and Jefferson Davis (Democratic)
1861-present: John C. Frémont (Democratic)
1860 (with Jefferson Davis) def. Charles Sumner and John Bingham (Free Soil), Andrew B. Moore and James Chesnut (States Rights), Anthony Kennedy and Emerson Etheridge (Whig)
1864 (with Jefferson Davis) def. John Van Buren and Charles Francis Adams (Libertarian), Robert Toombs and Thomas Bragg (Southern Rights), Chatham Roberdeau Wheat and Horace Bell (Nicaragua Annexationist Democratic), Andrew Haswell Green and John M. Botts (Whig)
- Thomas Hart Benton is successful in having Polk appoint him as a Lieutenant General in 1846, having supreme control over the prosecution of the war in Mexico and over peace with Mexico. Benton does very little fighting in the war and only travels to Mexico City after Scott has captured it. Benton is much harsher on Mexico and succeeds in getting larger concessions from them.
- On this map, the US receives line 8 from the lower map and line 11 from the upper map except in regions covered by the lower map.
- Despite fighting very few battles, Benton is a national hero and takes the place of Zachary Taylor in the election of 1848. Benton wins over Winfield Scott, who has a grudge against Benton for winning fame despite doing very little actual fighting. Benton's populistic stances force Van Buren out of the race and the Free Soilers nominate a fairly
- Because Benton is part of the establishment, he does not take his unpopular OTL anti-slavery stances, and becomes a staunch supporter of popular sovereignty. Under Benton, the parties realign with the Jacksonian populists taking charge of the Democrats and an exodus of the most conservative slavers to the Whigs. Much of the south does remain loyal to the Democrats, and the age of Benton sees filibustering across the Caribbean. Client states are established in Central America, though there is enough opposition in Congress to prevent annexation. Benton's Democrats also enact policies allowing western settlement and two major homesteading bills are passed, giving white settlers cheap land, including in the Indian Territory.
- The Whigs are in an increasingly bad position due to a growing anti-slavery wing and a strong pro-slavery southern wing. 1852 is a massive defeat for the party as the nominee, Webster, dies after Election Day. Webster's cotton whig policies are off-putting and give Benton reelection. The Free Soil Party sticks around and siphons off votes from anti-slavery Whigs in the presidential election while also winning house seats that probably would have been within reach for the Whigs. The Whigs remain aligned with nativism throughout this period.
- In 1856, after twelve years of Democrats, the country again votes for a Whig. This time, they choose John Bell of Tennessee, a rare anti-slavery southerner running a moderate, fairly vapid campaign. Bell bills himself as the man to keep the country together, but once in office does very little of anything at all. He is unable to rein in the filibusters and the situation in the country deteriorates under his administration.
- In 1860, the Democrats have a natural choice for president: John C. Frémont. Son-in-law of former President Benton, Frémont was involved in the capture of California, filibustering in Honduras (though he was later thrown out by President Chatham Wheat), and now serves as Senator from Missouri. Frémont runs alongside Senator Davis of Mississippi, who ran with Buchanan in 1856. Davis sees the writing on the wall and supports gradual abolition of slavery and resettlement in Central America. With the opposition divided, Frémont and Davis win. Not all Democrats are happy with this choice, and a small pro-slavery run under Andrew B. Moore wins several southern states.
- John Bell sees the writing on the wall and does not run, citing the single-term Whig precedent. His successor is another fairly moderate border stater, Anthony Kennedy of Maryland. The party leadership has an appetite for this kind of candidate, but the northerners do not and the Free Soilers choose a candidate of their own, Senator Sumner of Massachusetts. Kennedy will flop and comes in fourth in the election.
- Frémont's administration is interesting. He is not a natural administrator and begins to gather power around himself and the presidency. He's able to do this because the Whigs implode and the Free Soilers develop into the Libertarians, a stronger party focused on ending slavery and expansionism. This leads to a Congress dominated by Democrats. Despite his despotic tendencies, Frémont is very popular and under him, Americans flock to the filibuster republics. Congress is close to a comprehensive plan to abolish slavery. All of this leads to Frémont cruising to reelection over several minor splinters and the Libertarians. The Whigs continue to limp along with a dozen seats and only a handful of old party regulars still in power.
- It's now the summer of 1866. Filibusters under the New Jerseyan McClellan have invaded Colombia, leading to condemnation from Europe and threat of British intervention. Vice President Davis, who has entered a role of the President's envoy to the Senate, has announced the completion of a scheme to abolish slavery by 1886 and the resettlement of those former slaves in Central America.
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Don’t hate this, but more land-grabbing and popular sovereignty wouldn’t have nipped the Civil War in the bud because - and AH often gets weirdly obtuse here - this is literally what was tried. Pierce & Buchanan were incompetent but Douglas was a very talented politician who also failed to make PS work, because it was a fucking terrible idea that would inevitably escalate conflict whenever a territory had to vote. It was definitionally not going to work. Conquering more territory would have made matters worse.
And with a POD in 1846, Jefferson Davis - again, Jefferson Davis - is not going to lead gradual emancipation no matter how often the omnipotent narrator says “writing on the wall”
List of Chief Mousers to the Cabinet Office
1929–1946: Peter
Prime Ministers: Baldwin, MacDonald, W. Churchill
1937–1947: Nelson
Prime Ministers: W. Churchill
1947–1961: Tabitha
Prime Ministers: Griffiths, Gaitskell, Thorneycroft
1961–1972: Rupert I
Prime Ministers: Thorneycroft, R. Churchill, Lewis
1972–1978: Rupert II
Prime Ministers: Lewis, Jenkins
1978–1991: Asquith
Prime Ministers: Jenkins, St John-Stevas, MacFarquhar
1991–2003: Nick
Prime Ministers: MacFarquhar, Haselhurst, Mandelson
2003–2017: Joyce
Prime Ministers: Mandelson, McMillan-Scott, Duncan, Ainsworth
2017–0000: Farringdon
Prime Ministers: Ainsworth, Miliband, Tugendhat
1929–1946: Peter
Prime Ministers: Baldwin, MacDonald, W. Churchill
1937–1947: Nelson
Prime Ministers: W. Churchill
1947–1961: Tabitha
Prime Ministers: Griffiths, Gaitskell, Thorneycroft
1961–1972: Rupert I
Prime Ministers: Thorneycroft, R. Churchill, Lewis
1972–1978: Rupert II
Prime Ministers: Lewis, Jenkins
1978–1991: Asquith
Prime Ministers: Jenkins, St John-Stevas, MacFarquhar
1991–2003: Nick
Prime Ministers: MacFarquhar, Haselhurst, Mandelson
2003–2017: Joyce
Prime Ministers: Mandelson, McMillan-Scott, Duncan, Ainsworth
2017–0000: Farringdon
Prime Ministers: Ainsworth, Miliband, Tugendhat
FPTP 4 Win or Dev Gets What He Wants
1959-1966 Seán Lemass (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1961: Seán Lemass-Fianna Fáil [100],John Dillon-Fine Gael [44]
1965: Seán Lemass-Fianna Fáil [101],John Dillon-Fine Gael [43]
1966-1975 Jack Lynch (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1969: Jack Lynch-Fianna Fáil [99],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [45]
1973: Jack Lynch-Fianna Fáil [93],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [51]
1975-1993 Charles Haughey (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1977: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [97],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [51]
1981: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [58]
1985: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Richard Burke-Fine Gael [58]
1989: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Alan Dukes-Fine Gael [58]
1993: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Alan Dukes-Fine Gael [58]
1993-1995 Bertie Ahern (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1995-1996 Albert Reynolds (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1996-1997 Michael Woods (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1997-1997 Mary O’Rourke (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1997-2010 Dick Spring (Labour Majority)
1997: Dick Spring-Labour [86],Mary O’Rourke-Fianna Fáil [40],John Burton (replacing Michael Lowry)-Fine Gael [40]
2001: Dick Spring-Labour [100],Dermot Ahern-Fianna Fáil [33],Michael Noonan-Fine Gael [33]
2005: Dick Spring-Labour [95],Brian Cowen-Fianna Fáil [23],Enda Kenny-Fine Gael [23],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [16],Trevor Sargent-Green [10]
2010-2015 Micheál Martin (Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael Coalition)
2010: Micheál Martin-Fianna Fáil [44],Michael Creed-Fine Gael [43],Dick Spring-Labour [29],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [28],Trevor Sargent-Green [12],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [9],(collective leadership)-Socialist Party [1]
2015-present day Eamon Gilmore (Labour-Green Coalition)
2015: Eamon Gilmore-Labour [81],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [37],various Independents [14],Eamon Ryan-Green [13],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [11],(collective leadership)-AAA-PBP [10]
2019: Eamon Gilmore-Labour [78],Mary Lou McDonald-Sinn Féin [55],Eamon Ryan-Green [16],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [8],(collective leadership)-PBP-Solidarity [5],Peadar Tóinín-Aontú [4]
Basically the 1959 referendum goes narrowly the way Dev wanted and PR voting is replaced with FPTP,leading to Finnie Failers dominating Ireland PRI style and the death of the multi party system til the early 2000’s.
Nothing massive changes til ’75,when Charlie decides he has enough support to coup Jack and runs Ireland for 18 years,doing even more corruption and massively rigging the vote to make the Finley Gaels remain stagnant. Ben Dunne kills himself by accident while high on cocaine in ‘92 and the corruption scandals are slightly delayed.
Enough to destroy the two party system.
@Time Enough ’s lad Dick and the Labour gang rises to the top and governs alone as both of the big two are paralyzed with corruption scandals and low popularity,which leads to Labour profiting from a protest vote. In his 13 years as Taoiseach,Dick Spring‘s greatest achievement (along with the successful PR voting referendum) is without a doubt the first serious attempt to clean up Irish politics of corruption. The Big Two’s dirty dealings have been revealed to the people in even more detail since the fall of Bertie and they finally suffer the consequences of their actions. Haughey,Ahern,Reynolds and Woods are the first Taoiseachs to go to jail for numerous crimes, including massive corruption and electoral fraud. Apart from O’Kennedy, Wilson,Brennan,Smith,O’Rourke,Calleary,Kirk,Lyons and Flood,every Fianna Fáil Minister is in jail by 2010. The Cosgraves,like the Haugheys,all end up in jail,leading to awkward situation at times like Charlie and Liam’s sons attending their fathers’s funerals in handcuffs.
The return of the Finn Failers and Finey Gaels to government wasn’t because of any competence on their part,but because they got lucky. Regardless of how much poor Dick tried,the economy was still affected by the world recession and no matter how well Labour tried to handle the situation they just couldn’t stop the inevitable. To the surprise of none,the supposed mortal enemies of Irish politics teamed up in a desperate attempt to get back power and have their fingers in the pie once more,consequences be damned. They couldn’t-nay-didn’t want to learn anything from their mistakes.
After all,old habits die hard.
Their political deaths didn’t happen just because of austerity and corruption,but it did help a lot. Irish Water,Denis O’Brien,the Expenses Scandal-all destroyed any credibility and support for them. When Labour went back into power along with Greens,all the PR voting couldn’t have Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael from dying-nor its leaders being disgraced. Due to public outcry,new investigations and trials led once more to a former Taoiseach and most of his cabinet going to jail. Denis O’Brien has been a fugitive for the law for several years now and his businesses in Ireland have either been sold out or bankrupted due to government lawsuits. By 2019,Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were forced to be abolished due to almost all of its leading members being in jail or fugitives from the law abroad. From their ashes,just like in 1997,a new Ireland arose.
Time will tell if it will be a good thing.
1959-1966 Seán Lemass (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1961: Seán Lemass-Fianna Fáil [100],John Dillon-Fine Gael [44]
1965: Seán Lemass-Fianna Fáil [101],John Dillon-Fine Gael [43]
1966-1975 Jack Lynch (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1969: Jack Lynch-Fianna Fáil [99],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [45]
1973: Jack Lynch-Fianna Fáil [93],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [51]
1975-1993 Charles Haughey (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1977: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [97],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [51]
1981: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Liam Cosgrave-Fine Gael [58]
1985: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Richard Burke-Fine Gael [58]
1989: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Alan Dukes-Fine Gael [58]
1993: Charles Haughey-Fianna Fáil [108],Alan Dukes-Fine Gael [58]
1993-1995 Bertie Ahern (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1995-1996 Albert Reynolds (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1996-1997 Michael Woods (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1997-1997 Mary O’Rourke (Fianna Fáil Majority)
1997-2010 Dick Spring (Labour Majority)
1997: Dick Spring-Labour [86],Mary O’Rourke-Fianna Fáil [40],John Burton (replacing Michael Lowry)-Fine Gael [40]
2001: Dick Spring-Labour [100],Dermot Ahern-Fianna Fáil [33],Michael Noonan-Fine Gael [33]
2005: Dick Spring-Labour [95],Brian Cowen-Fianna Fáil [23],Enda Kenny-Fine Gael [23],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [16],Trevor Sargent-Green [10]
2010-2015 Micheál Martin (Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael Coalition)
2010: Micheál Martin-Fianna Fáil [44],Michael Creed-Fine Gael [43],Dick Spring-Labour [29],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [28],Trevor Sargent-Green [12],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [9],(collective leadership)-Socialist Party [1]
2015-present day Eamon Gilmore (Labour-Green Coalition)
2015: Eamon Gilmore-Labour [81],Gerry Adams-Sinn Féin [37],various Independents [14],Eamon Ryan-Green [13],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [11],(collective leadership)-AAA-PBP [10]
2019: Eamon Gilmore-Labour [78],Mary Lou McDonald-Sinn Féin [55],Eamon Ryan-Green [16],Michael McDowell-Progressive Democrats [8],(collective leadership)-PBP-Solidarity [5],Peadar Tóinín-Aontú [4]
Basically the 1959 referendum goes narrowly the way Dev wanted and PR voting is replaced with FPTP,leading to Finnie Failers dominating Ireland PRI style and the death of the multi party system til the early 2000’s.
Nothing massive changes til ’75,when Charlie decides he has enough support to coup Jack and runs Ireland for 18 years,doing even more corruption and massively rigging the vote to make the Finley Gaels remain stagnant. Ben Dunne kills himself by accident while high on cocaine in ‘92 and the corruption scandals are slightly delayed.
Enough to destroy the two party system.
@Time Enough ’s lad Dick and the Labour gang rises to the top and governs alone as both of the big two are paralyzed with corruption scandals and low popularity,which leads to Labour profiting from a protest vote. In his 13 years as Taoiseach,Dick Spring‘s greatest achievement (along with the successful PR voting referendum) is without a doubt the first serious attempt to clean up Irish politics of corruption. The Big Two’s dirty dealings have been revealed to the people in even more detail since the fall of Bertie and they finally suffer the consequences of their actions. Haughey,Ahern,Reynolds and Woods are the first Taoiseachs to go to jail for numerous crimes, including massive corruption and electoral fraud. Apart from O’Kennedy, Wilson,Brennan,Smith,O’Rourke,Calleary,Kirk,Lyons and Flood,every Fianna Fáil Minister is in jail by 2010. The Cosgraves,like the Haugheys,all end up in jail,leading to awkward situation at times like Charlie and Liam’s sons attending their fathers’s funerals in handcuffs.
The return of the Finn Failers and Finey Gaels to government wasn’t because of any competence on their part,but because they got lucky. Regardless of how much poor Dick tried,the economy was still affected by the world recession and no matter how well Labour tried to handle the situation they just couldn’t stop the inevitable. To the surprise of none,the supposed mortal enemies of Irish politics teamed up in a desperate attempt to get back power and have their fingers in the pie once more,consequences be damned. They couldn’t-nay-didn’t want to learn anything from their mistakes.
After all,old habits die hard.
Their political deaths didn’t happen just because of austerity and corruption,but it did help a lot. Irish Water,Denis O’Brien,the Expenses Scandal-all destroyed any credibility and support for them. When Labour went back into power along with Greens,all the PR voting couldn’t have Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael from dying-nor its leaders being disgraced. Due to public outcry,new investigations and trials led once more to a former Taoiseach and most of his cabinet going to jail. Denis O’Brien has been a fugitive for the law for several years now and his businesses in Ireland have either been sold out or bankrupted due to government lawsuits. By 2019,Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were forced to be abolished due to almost all of its leading members being in jail or fugitives from the law abroad. From their ashes,just like in 1997,a new Ireland arose.
Time will tell if it will be a good thing.
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MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL ANTI-IMPERIALISM:
PRESIDENTS OF CHILE:
23. Carlos Ibanez del Campo (IND) - April 2, 1942 - April 2, 1948
24. Fernando Alessandri (LIB) - April 2, 1948 - April 2, 1954
25. Pedro Enrique Alfonso (PSD) - April 2, 1954 - March 31, 1959
26. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1959 - March 31, 1964
27. Julio Duran (LIB) - March 31, 1964 - March 31, 1969
28. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1969 - March 31, 1974
29. Radomiro Tomic (PSD) - March 31, 1974 - March 31, 1979
30. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1979 - December 12, 1983
31. Tomas Reyes Vicuna (PCD) - December 12, 1983 - March 31, 1984
32. Patricio Aylwin (PCD) - March 31, 1984 - March 31, 1989
33. Francisco Javier Errazuriz Talavera (PSD) - March 31, 1989 - March 31, 1994
34. Manuel Feliu Justiniano (PNC) - March 31, 1994 - March 31, 1999
35. Manfred Max-Neef (PSE) - March 31, 1999 - March 31, 2004
36. Sara Larrain (PSE) - March 31, 2004 - March 31, 2009
37. Joaquin Lavin (PNC) - March 31, 2009 - March 31, 2014
38. Michelle Bachelet (PSD) - March 31, 2014 - March 31, 2019
39. Yasna Provoste (PCD) - March 31, 2019 - Incumbent
PRESIDENTS OF CHILE:
23. Carlos Ibanez del Campo (IND) - April 2, 1942 - April 2, 1948
24. Fernando Alessandri (LIB) - April 2, 1948 - April 2, 1954
25. Pedro Enrique Alfonso (PSD) - April 2, 1954 - March 31, 1959
26. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1959 - March 31, 1964
27. Julio Duran (LIB) - March 31, 1964 - March 31, 1969
28. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1969 - March 31, 1974
29. Radomiro Tomic (PSD) - March 31, 1974 - March 31, 1979
30. Eduardo Frei Montalva (PCD) - March 31, 1979 - December 12, 1983
31. Tomas Reyes Vicuna (PCD) - December 12, 1983 - March 31, 1984
32. Patricio Aylwin (PCD) - March 31, 1984 - March 31, 1989
33. Francisco Javier Errazuriz Talavera (PSD) - March 31, 1989 - March 31, 1994
34. Manuel Feliu Justiniano (PNC) - March 31, 1994 - March 31, 1999
35. Manfred Max-Neef (PSE) - March 31, 1999 - March 31, 2004
36. Sara Larrain (PSE) - March 31, 2004 - March 31, 2009
37. Joaquin Lavin (PNC) - March 31, 2009 - March 31, 2014
38. Michelle Bachelet (PSD) - March 31, 2014 - March 31, 2019
39. Yasna Provoste (PCD) - March 31, 2019 - Incumbent
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1937 - 1942: Edmund Ironside (‘Military’ leading ‘Government of Efficiency’)
1942 - 1943: John Beckett (‘Non Partisan’ leading ‘Government of Efficiency’)
1943 - : William Morris, 1st Viscount Nuffield (‘Non Partisan’ leading ‘Government of Efficiency’)
1943 - 1945: George Marshall (USAF leading Anti-Fascist Occupation Zone in the Atlantic)
1945 - 1947: Frederick Marquis (Union)
1946 (Majority) def. Tom Wintringham (Communist), Harry Cowley (Union of Independents)
1947 - 1951: Oliver Stanley (Union)†
1950 (Majority) def. Tom Wintringham (Communist), John Langdon-Davies (New Democratic)
1951 - 1957: Anthony Eden (Union)
1954 (Majority) def. Harold Davies (Communist), John Langdon-Davies (New Democratic), Reginald Dorman-Smith (Country)
1957 - : Malcom MacDonald (Union)
1959 (Majority) def. Harold Davies (Communist), Emrys Roberts (New Democratic), James Turner, 1st Baron Netherthorpe (Country)
As Malcolm MacDonald prepares to resign after a tumultuous nearly five years, Britain looks upon itself and wonders where its future lies.
The National Efficiency movement, a collective of Fascists, Military Men and Fellow Travellers was not a long last project, indeed it would exist formally for about Seven Years following Ironside’s coup. In the end the movement would be destroyed in the rubble of Portsmouth, as William Morris desperately surrendered to waiting Commonwealth and American Troops.
Rebuilding would be a laborious effort, George Marshall whilst technically the de facto leader of the Anti-Fascist Occupation Forces shared his responsibilities with two others; one was the American Technocrat Rexford Tugwell and the other was Frederick Marquis.
A Civil Servant and Businessman, Marquis was chosen as a figure relatively unspoiled by association with Fascism having been marginally close with several members of the Resistance in Canada. Seen as a friendly figure by Americans, Marquis would find himself being seen as the British Arm of the Occupation.
Whilst this was happening, with the slow release of political prisoners and the purging of Fascist sympathisers, an old force in British politics would find itself revitalised.
The Communist Party of Britain had become the third party of British Politics particularly after the General Strike. Indeed fears of Communist takeover were one of the reasons for the Coup in 1937, leading to the organisation being driven underground. Whilst underground, the leadership would begin to change. Leaders cosy with Moscow and followers of the Comintern line would often find themselves in Prison Cells, whilst figures like Tom Wintringham and Oliver Baldwin were able to go underground and become figures within the Leftist Resistance Movements. The Communists would lead the liberation in the Northern and Midlands Industrial Cities of England and the Cities of Scotland as Commonwealth and American forces landed in Wales.
It was unsurprising when the Communists became one of the prominent political parties in the Post War Aftermath. Whilst America knew that Wintringham wasn’t a follower of the Comintern line, they still didn’t trust the British Communists.
It was American intervention that lead to the creation of the Union Party; formed from a mixture of the carcasses old British Political Parties, The Canadian Government in Exile, Political Active Civil Servants and Businessmen fearing a Communist takeover, the party would quickly dominate British Politics.
Marquis would formally become Prime Minister in the aftermath of the collapse of Schwarze Front in Germany, and scheduled elections to follow the unveiling of Britain’s new formal constitution. The 1946 Election was overall despite Communist hopes, an overall dull affair, even if Harry Cowley and his fellow anarchistic Vigilantes spiced things up a bit.
Marquis would use the period after the election to announce the ‘Willink Plan’ which would create a National Health Insurance and Council Operated Health Centres and the ‘Bevin Memorandum’ which was supposed to usher in the so called ‘Golden Age of the Industrial - Labour Partnership’. Both of these were brought about mainly to siphon away growing support towards the Communist Party.
Despite it all though, Marquis would find his support plummet following the Winter of 47’, in which poor preparation and planning lead to hardship across the nation. The sudden rise of Communist support spooked the Americans who would loan money, provide aid and increase their military presence in the nation during the recovery from the winter and subsequent floods.
But with his popularity declining and young bucks pushing their way forward, Marquis would resign and head back to Business, becoming the Chairman of British Airways not long after.
Oliver Stanley would be remembered as someone who tried to steer the Union ship around but was unable to fully recover. Whilst the Economy recovered thanks to American aid, rationing was still being implemented in a number of places and was deeply unpopular. Attempts to finally crush Harry Crowley and his Vigilantes would fail, with the Brighton Riots caused by an attempt to force out Vigilante supported Squatters leading to portions of the city being taken over and leading to an embarrassing climb down and the resignation of Gwilym Lloyd George as Home Secretary, instead to be replaced by the more moderate and youthful Hugh Linstead who would end up becoming Britain’s longest lasting Home Secretary. Strikes were common place as the Communist strategy of ‘Dual Struggle’ continued to bare fruit, despite Union hopes to the contrary.
Stanley, initially made leader as a stable and reliable Prime Minister was finding himself at odds with a nation that was increasingly leaning towards Communist support. He was saved by another American loan and a split on the Left as the Soviet lead coup in Austria and increasingly centralised leadership of the Communist lead to folks like John Langdon-Davies walking out of the Communist party and forming the New Democratic.
The 1950 election called a few months after a New Democratic victory in a Communist stronghold was seen as being a rather cynical election but it allowed the Union party to gain a reduced majority.
Stanley’s hopes of a second term being better than the first would be dashed rather quickly, worn out by the election and governance, Stanley would die in the Winter of 1951 after a short illness.
Anthony Eden, a former prominent member of the British Resistance and the Foreign Secretary would be sent to kiss the King’s Hand. Compared to Marquis and Stanley who were deemed to represent the ‘Civil Service’ aspect of the Union party, Eden has been once a Conservative Party member, then briefly an MP before resigning in protest to the draconian actions of Ironside. Fleeing to Canada and interacting with Liberal and Fabian intellectuals would certainly influence Eden upon his return.
Upon becoming Prime Minister, Eden would oversee a reshuffle of the Union Party’s priorities which he saw as being increasingly antiquated. Just keeping out the Communists, ensuring Liberal Democracy and supporting American policies were adequate starting out but for the Union Party to continue governing, it would have to properly adopt Progressive policies.
Figures like Hugh Gaitskell, Evan Durbin, Malcolm MacDonald and Reginald Maudling would be at the forefront at shifting the Union party leftward. Certain Industries were nationalised, Economic Planning was to be implemented, Vast Building Projects of both houses and power plants was the image of the future.
Eden would also try and strike a foreign policy independent of America, meeting with French Prime Minister René Pleven and Italian Prime Minister Mario Scelba to help create a new ‘European Partnership’ which could combat American and Soviet influence. The European Trade Association was the tentative steps towards that direction.
Eden would additionally begin the remaining decolonisation of African Colonies, though progress was slow and often times bloody and the push for a ‘Commonwealth of Equals’ by the Left of the party would never really manifest itself. Eden would also formerly relinquish control of Northern Ireland with his Foreign Secretary Malcolm MacDonald formerly meeting with Taoiseach Seán MacBride in 1954 to help officially secure Ireland’s Republican future and this event allowed Britain to gain a friendly relationship with the new emerging Non-Aligned movement.
These events would anger a strange gaggle of Farmers, Former Unionists and even the occasional Fascist straggler to form the Country Party, a Populist party of the British Countryside. This combined with the Communist changing over to a new, younger and more vigorous leader in Harold Davies seemed like it could tip the balance away from the Union Party.
But the 1954 election were held in relative boom times, the economy was good, rationing had been repealed and strikes were fairly low thanks to new Industrial Arbitration (and some secret subversion). Eden would gain seats, though this was mainly due to his handing over of Domestic Affairs to a gaggle of Young Progressives, over anything that Eden did properly.
Eden would resign in 1957, after a period of health problems, fairly popular and still see positively, Eden would be seen as the man who properly moulded Post War Britain.
Malcolm MacDonald was firstly the man who wanted to continue the Progressive Legacy he had helped build. But events as always would get away from him. 1956 saw Harold Stassen beat Huey Long for the Presidency, and upon taking office he would push for a more muscular foreign policy. Whilst initially MacDonald was softly supportive of Stassen’s plans, the push for increased number of American Military bases in Britain angered many.
But matters got ahead when Stassen proposed in 1959, the placement of Nuclear Missiles in Britain.
As a defeated power, Britain had signed several treaties agreeing not to build its own Nuclear Arsenal, but the sudden implementation of America’s own angered many and struck of hypocrisy. Even Malcolm MacDonald ruled against it, declaring that Britain was to be a nuclear free nation. Whilst this would allow the Union party to gain another majority, it angered those in Washington who declared that unless Malcolm MacDonald budged on this issue, there would be consequences.
MacDonald didn’t and so in the beginning of 1960, a new timetable was proposed that would increased the amount and time that Britain would have to pay back their loans. MacDonald conceded to Stassen’s plans.
This would lead to the so called ‘Days of Rage’ as Leftist protestors tried to stop the vote taking place, whilst Right Wing activists decided to take part in attacking protestors. The subsequent ‘Police Riot’ lead to the Communist and New Democratic Members of Parliament to stage a protest by refusing to leave the Parliament and trying every possible tactic to block the vote taking place.
Malcolm MacDonald was horrified, and tried to scale back the violence where he could.
Going on screens and radio up and down the country he sent a message loud and clear, decrying the chaos and telling people that he would step down as Prime Minister following the return to order.
It didn’t immediately solve things, it would take an attack on Several Leftist politicians and the assassination of Prominent Television Journalist and Leftist Writer Michael Foot for the message to get across.
As Autumn hit and the violence subsided, helped by Stassen’s lost in the election that year, Malcolm MacDonald prepares to leave office as 1961 begins, and hopes that his successor is able to continue the Progressive ideals he initially set out for.
Reggie Maudling seemed like someone who could have that potential…
1942 - 1943: John Beckett (‘Non Partisan’ leading ‘Government of Efficiency’)
1943 - : William Morris, 1st Viscount Nuffield (‘Non Partisan’ leading ‘Government of Efficiency’)
1943 - 1945: George Marshall (USAF leading Anti-Fascist Occupation Zone in the Atlantic)
1945 - 1947: Frederick Marquis (Union)
1946 (Majority) def. Tom Wintringham (Communist), Harry Cowley (Union of Independents)
1947 - 1951: Oliver Stanley (Union)†
1950 (Majority) def. Tom Wintringham (Communist), John Langdon-Davies (New Democratic)
1951 - 1957: Anthony Eden (Union)
1954 (Majority) def. Harold Davies (Communist), John Langdon-Davies (New Democratic), Reginald Dorman-Smith (Country)
1957 - : Malcom MacDonald (Union)
1959 (Majority) def. Harold Davies (Communist), Emrys Roberts (New Democratic), James Turner, 1st Baron Netherthorpe (Country)
As Malcolm MacDonald prepares to resign after a tumultuous nearly five years, Britain looks upon itself and wonders where its future lies.
The National Efficiency movement, a collective of Fascists, Military Men and Fellow Travellers was not a long last project, indeed it would exist formally for about Seven Years following Ironside’s coup. In the end the movement would be destroyed in the rubble of Portsmouth, as William Morris desperately surrendered to waiting Commonwealth and American Troops.
Rebuilding would be a laborious effort, George Marshall whilst technically the de facto leader of the Anti-Fascist Occupation Forces shared his responsibilities with two others; one was the American Technocrat Rexford Tugwell and the other was Frederick Marquis.
A Civil Servant and Businessman, Marquis was chosen as a figure relatively unspoiled by association with Fascism having been marginally close with several members of the Resistance in Canada. Seen as a friendly figure by Americans, Marquis would find himself being seen as the British Arm of the Occupation.
Whilst this was happening, with the slow release of political prisoners and the purging of Fascist sympathisers, an old force in British politics would find itself revitalised.
The Communist Party of Britain had become the third party of British Politics particularly after the General Strike. Indeed fears of Communist takeover were one of the reasons for the Coup in 1937, leading to the organisation being driven underground. Whilst underground, the leadership would begin to change. Leaders cosy with Moscow and followers of the Comintern line would often find themselves in Prison Cells, whilst figures like Tom Wintringham and Oliver Baldwin were able to go underground and become figures within the Leftist Resistance Movements. The Communists would lead the liberation in the Northern and Midlands Industrial Cities of England and the Cities of Scotland as Commonwealth and American forces landed in Wales.
It was unsurprising when the Communists became one of the prominent political parties in the Post War Aftermath. Whilst America knew that Wintringham wasn’t a follower of the Comintern line, they still didn’t trust the British Communists.
It was American intervention that lead to the creation of the Union Party; formed from a mixture of the carcasses old British Political Parties, The Canadian Government in Exile, Political Active Civil Servants and Businessmen fearing a Communist takeover, the party would quickly dominate British Politics.
Marquis would formally become Prime Minister in the aftermath of the collapse of Schwarze Front in Germany, and scheduled elections to follow the unveiling of Britain’s new formal constitution. The 1946 Election was overall despite Communist hopes, an overall dull affair, even if Harry Cowley and his fellow anarchistic Vigilantes spiced things up a bit.
Marquis would use the period after the election to announce the ‘Willink Plan’ which would create a National Health Insurance and Council Operated Health Centres and the ‘Bevin Memorandum’ which was supposed to usher in the so called ‘Golden Age of the Industrial - Labour Partnership’. Both of these were brought about mainly to siphon away growing support towards the Communist Party.
Despite it all though, Marquis would find his support plummet following the Winter of 47’, in which poor preparation and planning lead to hardship across the nation. The sudden rise of Communist support spooked the Americans who would loan money, provide aid and increase their military presence in the nation during the recovery from the winter and subsequent floods.
But with his popularity declining and young bucks pushing their way forward, Marquis would resign and head back to Business, becoming the Chairman of British Airways not long after.
Oliver Stanley would be remembered as someone who tried to steer the Union ship around but was unable to fully recover. Whilst the Economy recovered thanks to American aid, rationing was still being implemented in a number of places and was deeply unpopular. Attempts to finally crush Harry Crowley and his Vigilantes would fail, with the Brighton Riots caused by an attempt to force out Vigilante supported Squatters leading to portions of the city being taken over and leading to an embarrassing climb down and the resignation of Gwilym Lloyd George as Home Secretary, instead to be replaced by the more moderate and youthful Hugh Linstead who would end up becoming Britain’s longest lasting Home Secretary. Strikes were common place as the Communist strategy of ‘Dual Struggle’ continued to bare fruit, despite Union hopes to the contrary.
Stanley, initially made leader as a stable and reliable Prime Minister was finding himself at odds with a nation that was increasingly leaning towards Communist support. He was saved by another American loan and a split on the Left as the Soviet lead coup in Austria and increasingly centralised leadership of the Communist lead to folks like John Langdon-Davies walking out of the Communist party and forming the New Democratic.
The 1950 election called a few months after a New Democratic victory in a Communist stronghold was seen as being a rather cynical election but it allowed the Union party to gain a reduced majority.
Stanley’s hopes of a second term being better than the first would be dashed rather quickly, worn out by the election and governance, Stanley would die in the Winter of 1951 after a short illness.
Anthony Eden, a former prominent member of the British Resistance and the Foreign Secretary would be sent to kiss the King’s Hand. Compared to Marquis and Stanley who were deemed to represent the ‘Civil Service’ aspect of the Union party, Eden has been once a Conservative Party member, then briefly an MP before resigning in protest to the draconian actions of Ironside. Fleeing to Canada and interacting with Liberal and Fabian intellectuals would certainly influence Eden upon his return.
Upon becoming Prime Minister, Eden would oversee a reshuffle of the Union Party’s priorities which he saw as being increasingly antiquated. Just keeping out the Communists, ensuring Liberal Democracy and supporting American policies were adequate starting out but for the Union Party to continue governing, it would have to properly adopt Progressive policies.
Figures like Hugh Gaitskell, Evan Durbin, Malcolm MacDonald and Reginald Maudling would be at the forefront at shifting the Union party leftward. Certain Industries were nationalised, Economic Planning was to be implemented, Vast Building Projects of both houses and power plants was the image of the future.
Eden would also try and strike a foreign policy independent of America, meeting with French Prime Minister René Pleven and Italian Prime Minister Mario Scelba to help create a new ‘European Partnership’ which could combat American and Soviet influence. The European Trade Association was the tentative steps towards that direction.
Eden would additionally begin the remaining decolonisation of African Colonies, though progress was slow and often times bloody and the push for a ‘Commonwealth of Equals’ by the Left of the party would never really manifest itself. Eden would also formerly relinquish control of Northern Ireland with his Foreign Secretary Malcolm MacDonald formerly meeting with Taoiseach Seán MacBride in 1954 to help officially secure Ireland’s Republican future and this event allowed Britain to gain a friendly relationship with the new emerging Non-Aligned movement.
These events would anger a strange gaggle of Farmers, Former Unionists and even the occasional Fascist straggler to form the Country Party, a Populist party of the British Countryside. This combined with the Communist changing over to a new, younger and more vigorous leader in Harold Davies seemed like it could tip the balance away from the Union Party.
But the 1954 election were held in relative boom times, the economy was good, rationing had been repealed and strikes were fairly low thanks to new Industrial Arbitration (and some secret subversion). Eden would gain seats, though this was mainly due to his handing over of Domestic Affairs to a gaggle of Young Progressives, over anything that Eden did properly.
Eden would resign in 1957, after a period of health problems, fairly popular and still see positively, Eden would be seen as the man who properly moulded Post War Britain.
Malcolm MacDonald was firstly the man who wanted to continue the Progressive Legacy he had helped build. But events as always would get away from him. 1956 saw Harold Stassen beat Huey Long for the Presidency, and upon taking office he would push for a more muscular foreign policy. Whilst initially MacDonald was softly supportive of Stassen’s plans, the push for increased number of American Military bases in Britain angered many.
But matters got ahead when Stassen proposed in 1959, the placement of Nuclear Missiles in Britain.
As a defeated power, Britain had signed several treaties agreeing not to build its own Nuclear Arsenal, but the sudden implementation of America’s own angered many and struck of hypocrisy. Even Malcolm MacDonald ruled against it, declaring that Britain was to be a nuclear free nation. Whilst this would allow the Union party to gain another majority, it angered those in Washington who declared that unless Malcolm MacDonald budged on this issue, there would be consequences.
MacDonald didn’t and so in the beginning of 1960, a new timetable was proposed that would increased the amount and time that Britain would have to pay back their loans. MacDonald conceded to Stassen’s plans.
This would lead to the so called ‘Days of Rage’ as Leftist protestors tried to stop the vote taking place, whilst Right Wing activists decided to take part in attacking protestors. The subsequent ‘Police Riot’ lead to the Communist and New Democratic Members of Parliament to stage a protest by refusing to leave the Parliament and trying every possible tactic to block the vote taking place.
Malcolm MacDonald was horrified, and tried to scale back the violence where he could.
Going on screens and radio up and down the country he sent a message loud and clear, decrying the chaos and telling people that he would step down as Prime Minister following the return to order.
It didn’t immediately solve things, it would take an attack on Several Leftist politicians and the assassination of Prominent Television Journalist and Leftist Writer Michael Foot for the message to get across.
As Autumn hit and the violence subsided, helped by Stassen’s lost in the election that year, Malcolm MacDonald prepares to leave office as 1961 begins, and hopes that his successor is able to continue the Progressive ideals he initially set out for.
Reggie Maudling seemed like someone who could have that potential…
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Theres always a city, always a lighthouse, always a nuclear power that creates an international crisis but installing missiles on an island.
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I will admit I was this close to going with “Ernest Millington is the Communist leader and is stabbed at an Anti-Nuclear rally by a Right Wing Nationalist” but I realised it was a bit on the nose (so I went with Michael Foot instead).
theflyingmgoose
Well-known member
LET'S FLIP THE SCRIPT
39. Ronald W. Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
40. James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D) - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
41. Walter F. Mondale/William J. Clinton (D) - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
42. William P. Clements/Andrew L. Alexander (R) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
43. Theodore A. Mondale/Elizabeth L. Holtzman (D) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
44. Julius C. Watts/William S. Cohen (R) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
45. Bernard B. Sanders/Barbara J. Lee (D) - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
46. William S. Cohen/Jenean M. Hampton (R) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
If you don't get it:
Reagan and Carter are flipped, Cater succeeded by milquetoast VP, followed by a ticket of two moderate southerners, next is son of predecessor with controversial VP, what follows is a ticket of a trailblazer and a longtime moderate Senate mainstay, followed by populist firebreather and more party-line but still ideological veep, and finally the former VP and another trailblazer.
39. Ronald W. Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R) - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
40. James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D) - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
41. Walter F. Mondale/William J. Clinton (D) - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
42. William P. Clements/Andrew L. Alexander (R) - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
43. Theodore A. Mondale/Elizabeth L. Holtzman (D) - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
44. Julius C. Watts/William S. Cohen (R) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
45. Bernard B. Sanders/Barbara J. Lee (D) - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
46. William S. Cohen/Jenean M. Hampton (R) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
If you don't get it:
Reagan and Carter are flipped, Cater succeeded by milquetoast VP, followed by a ticket of two moderate southerners, next is son of predecessor with controversial VP, what follows is a ticket of a trailblazer and a longtime moderate Senate mainstay, followed by populist firebreather and more party-line but still ideological veep, and finally the former VP and another trailblazer.
Prime Ministers of Italy
2001 - 2013: Silvio Berlusconi (Forza Italia)
2001 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Francesco Rutelli (The Daisy — The Olive Tree), Fausto Bertinotti (Communist Refoundation)
2006 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — The Union)
2007 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (69.0%)
2010 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (57.9%)
2011 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame)
2013 - 2016: Angelino Alfano (Forza Italia)
Jun. 2015 (Minority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame), Luigi de Magistris and Marco Travaglio (Italy of Values)
Nov. 2015 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Luigi de Magistris and Marco Travaglio (Italy of Values), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame)
2016 - 2018: Antonio Tajani (Forza Italia)
2017 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (51.4%)
2018: Position of Italian Prime Minister formally abolished
Joint Speakers of the Parliament of Italy
2018 - 2019: Antonio Tajani (Forza Italia)
2018 (Majority — CdX) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — CsX), Antonio Ingroia and Sonia Alfano (Italy of Values), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame — CdX), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy — CsX)
2019 - 0000: Elisabetta Casellati (Forza Italia)
2023 (Majority — CdX) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — CsX), Mimmo Lucano and Nicola Fratoianni (DemA — UP), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame — CdX), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy — CsX), Simone Pillon (Faith and Family — CdX), Aboubakar Soumahoro (Communist Refoundation — UP)
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Presidents of Italy
1999 - 2006: Carlo Azeglio Ciampi (Independent)
1999 def. Luciano Gasperini (Northern League) [indirect]
2006 - 2013: Gianni Letta (Forza Italia)
2006 def. Umberto Bossi (Northern League) [indirect]
2013 - 0000: Silvio Berlusconi (Forza Italia)
2013 def. Mario Monti (Independent), Luigi de Magistris (italy of Values)
2018 def. Matteo Renzi (The Olive Tree), Luigi de Magistris (Italy of Values), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy)
2023 def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Gianluigi Paragone (Italexit)
Coping by making threads about how Berlusconi is gonna die within the ext two years and Forza has no one lined up to succeed him aside from his daughter-in-law Marta who he wants to have sex with.
Prime Ministers of Italy
2001 - 2013: Silvio Berlusconi (Forza Italia)
2001 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Francesco Rutelli (The Daisy — The Olive Tree), Fausto Bertinotti (Communist Refoundation)
2006 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — The Union)
2007 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (69.0%)
2010 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (57.9%)
2011 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame)
2013 - 2016: Angelino Alfano (Forza Italia)
Jun. 2015 (Minority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame), Luigi de Magistris and Marco Travaglio (Italy of Values)
Nov. 2015 (Majority — House of Freedoms) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Luigi de Magistris and Marco Travaglio (Italy of Values), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame)
2016 - 2018: Antonio Tajani (Forza Italia)
2017 Italian Constitutional Referendum: Yes (51.4%)
2018: Position of Italian Prime Minister formally abolished
Joint Speakers of the Parliament of Italy
2018 - 2019: Antonio Tajani (Forza Italia)
2018 (Majority — CdX) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — CsX), Antonio Ingroia and Sonia Alfano (Italy of Values), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame — CdX), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy — CsX)
2019 - 0000: Elisabetta Casellati (Forza Italia)
2023 (Majority — CdX) def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree — CsX), Mimmo Lucano and Nicola Fratoianni (DemA — UP), Daniela Santanchè (The Right-Tricolor Flame — CdX), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy — CsX), Simone Pillon (Faith and Family — CdX), Aboubakar Soumahoro (Communist Refoundation — UP)
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Presidents of Italy
1999 - 2006: Carlo Azeglio Ciampi (Independent)
1999 def. Luciano Gasperini (Northern League) [indirect]
2006 - 2013: Gianni Letta (Forza Italia)
2006 def. Umberto Bossi (Northern League) [indirect]
2013 - 0000: Silvio Berlusconi (Forza Italia)
2013 def. Mario Monti (Independent), Luigi de Magistris (italy of Values)
2018 def. Matteo Renzi (The Olive Tree), Luigi de Magistris (Italy of Values), Gianfranco Fini (Generation Italy)
2023 def. Romano Prodi (The Olive Tree), Gianluigi Paragone (Italexit)
LSCatilina
Never Forget Avaricon
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Val d'Arna is freed by Spanish Republicans with some more support from the French GPRF and lives on as a rump state, until Franoist Spain collapse (later than IOTL and along republican lines)
President of the Emergency Government of the Spanish Republic
1946 : Antonio Soriano (Spanish National Union)
President of the Spanish Republic (Val d'Aran)
1945 - 1950 : Diego Martínez Barrio (Republican Union / Popular Front)
1950 - 1954 : Jesús Monzón Repáraz (Communist Party of Spain / Popular Front; then Independent Communist Party / National Unity)
1954 (interim) : Ángel Galarza (Republican Party of the Left / National Unity)
1954 - 1957 : Josèp Salvador (Spanish Socialist Workers Party / National Unity)
1957 - 1964 : Ángel Galarza (Republican Party of the Left/ National Unity)
1964 - 1971 : Manuel de Irojo (Community of Iberian Nations - Basque Party / National Unity)
1971 - 1976 : Fernando Valera Apricio (Left Republican Union / National Unity)
1976 - 1980 : Maria Pilar Busquet (Community of Iberian Nations - Aranese Unity)
1980 - 1981 (interim) : Luìs Portela (Democratic Republican Party)
Merging with the Provisional Government of the Spanish Republic
President of the Emergency Government of the Spanish Republic
1946 : Antonio Soriano (Spanish National Union)
President of the Spanish Republic (Val d'Aran)
1945 - 1950 : Diego Martínez Barrio (Republican Union / Popular Front)
1950 - 1954 : Jesús Monzón Repáraz (Communist Party of Spain / Popular Front; then Independent Communist Party / National Unity)
1954 (interim) : Ángel Galarza (Republican Party of the Left / National Unity)
1954 - 1957 : Josèp Salvador (Spanish Socialist Workers Party / National Unity)
1957 - 1964 : Ángel Galarza (Republican Party of the Left/ National Unity)
1964 - 1971 : Manuel de Irojo (Community of Iberian Nations - Basque Party / National Unity)
1971 - 1976 : Fernando Valera Apricio (Left Republican Union / National Unity)
1976 - 1980 : Maria Pilar Busquet (Community of Iberian Nations - Aranese Unity)
1980 - 1981 (interim) : Luìs Portela (Democratic Republican Party)
Merging with the Provisional Government of the Spanish Republic
TheKennedyMachine
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The younger President Bush is one the public would rather not discuss unless it’s as part of an analysis of his father’s legacy or Al Gore’s political career. More attention has been paid to the scandals that broke out and the revelations they gave about America. Viewers assured themselves that the cutthroat capitalism of films like Wall Street and American Psycho was a work of fiction, but to an extent not seen since the Great Depression, that corporate greed had visible consequences.
Events such as the Enron scandal and President Bush's ties to it's CEO had casted a dark shadow over the Bush Presidency, and Iraq Disarmament Crisis was no help either.
The winning ticket in 2004 was composed of Al Gore, but most importantly, John Edwards -- a youthful senator from North Carolina whose ideology of Happy Populism, which talked tough when it came to economic inequality, rising poverty, wall-street and corporate corruption -- seemed to be a clear evolution of the politics of the Clinton Era. Previously rejected ideas were brought back into the political discourse, allowing Gore to orient his campaign towards his environmentalist pet projects.
2001 - 2005: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000 def. Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic), Ralph Nader / Winona LaDuke (Green)
2005 - 2013: Al Gore / John Edwards (Democratic)
2004 def. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2008 def. John McCain / Matt Blunt (Republican)
2013 - 2021: Rick Santorum / Joseph Cao (Republican)
2012 def. John Edwards / Barack Obama (Democratic)
2016 def. Hillary Clinton / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
Events such as the Enron scandal and President Bush's ties to it's CEO had casted a dark shadow over the Bush Presidency, and Iraq Disarmament Crisis was no help either.
The winning ticket in 2004 was composed of Al Gore, but most importantly, John Edwards -- a youthful senator from North Carolina whose ideology of Happy Populism, which talked tough when it came to economic inequality, rising poverty, wall-street and corporate corruption -- seemed to be a clear evolution of the politics of the Clinton Era. Previously rejected ideas were brought back into the political discourse, allowing Gore to orient his campaign towards his environmentalist pet projects.
2001 - 2005: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000 def. Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic), Ralph Nader / Winona LaDuke (Green)
2005 - 2013: Al Gore / John Edwards (Democratic)
2004 def. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2008 def. John McCain / Matt Blunt (Republican)
2013 - 2021: Rick Santorum / Joseph Cao (Republican)
2012 def. John Edwards / Barack Obama (Democratic)
2016 def. Hillary Clinton / Evan Bayh (Democratic)