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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Callan

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1970-1983: Edward Heath (Conservative)
1970 (Majority): Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974 (Majority): Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

1978 (Majority): Peter Shore (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1983-1989: David Owen (Labour)
1983 (Majority): Edward Heath (Conservative), John Pardoe (Liberal)
1986 (Majority): Edward du Cann (Conservative), John Pardoe (Liberal)

1989-1991: Donald Dewar (Labour)
1991-1995: Paul Channon (Conservative)

1991 (Majority): Donald Dewar (Labour), David Owen (Radical)
1995-1997: Jack Straw (Labour)
1995 (Coalition with Radicals): Paul Channon (Conservative), Vince Cable (Radical), Robert Kilroy-Silk (Law & Justice)
1996 MMP Referendum: YES 57%, NO 43%
1997-: Edwina Currie (Conservative)
1997 (Coalition with Law & Justice): Jack Straw (Labour), Robert Kilroy-Silk (Law & Justice), Vince Cable (Radical), Peter Tatchell (Democratic Left)

Basically, Heath gets his majority to smash the unions and bring about his vision of the Social Market, with mixed success. The crises of the seventies wear on as Heath establishes an iron grip on his party and on much of Westminster politics, and the deep recession of the early eighties shatters Heath's political project decisively. The Labour Party, confused and exhausted, their union allies severely weakened by Heath, eventually takes a massive risk on David Owen, who becomes the youngest Prime Minister since Lord Liverpool. Owen proves less than keen on reversing some of Health's denationalisations and restrictions on the Labour movement and if anything furthers them, seeking his own vision of an increasingly deregulated social market. Chancellor Edmund Dell becomes Owen's chief ally in this project, and frequently appeared to take pleasure in antagonising the Labour Left.

But personal popularity and electoral victories quelled Owen's internal critics, even as he drifted further and further away form the Labour Party and away from the right. Dell's retirement severely weakened Owen, who pressed on. The Dyke report- an ambitious programme of deregulations and denationalisations- ignited the simmering resentment from the party and cabinet towards Owen's increasingly autocratic and liberal approach, forcing a climbdown. To the shock of the entire country, Owen resigned as Prime Minister a month later, claiming that his cabinet and parliamentary party had become impossible to work with. Just as his former Home Secretary had started to pick up the pieces and tried to prepare the country for the approaching global recession, Westminster was rocked again. Former Prime Minister David Owen, along with some Labour allies and a couple of sympathetic stragglers from the Tories, founded the Radical Party, deciding that the reforms Britain so desperately needed could not be achieved from inside any of the established parties.

After a very good showing in the 1991 General Election, the Radicals were quickly overwhelmed by feuding as the Tories cracked on with brutal austerity measures and the third party was wracked over potential co-operation with either one of the big two parties, a position quickly resolved after their founder quit the party in a huff in 1994, successfully standing as an independent in Plymouth Devonport (With the Radicals standing down for him) the next year. The 1995 general election was deeply inconclusive; the Conservatives were deeply unpopular from four years of spending cuts and the Labour Party hadn't yet decided what it wanted to be. Added to the mix was a an Owen-era junior minister, who quit the Shadow Cabinet over the increasingly pro-European stance and found a lot of support for a more broad populist outfit in era of rising crime and voter cynicism. Eventually, Jack Straw and Vince Cable were able to form a coalition that barely satisfied both parties, with an agreement for a referendum on electoral reform. The shockingly decisive win for the reformists quickly soured the Labour side of the coalition, and between that and disagreements on how best to move forward from austerity collapsed the coalition a year later.

(This was an old idea I had for a TL, which would be done in the form of a documentary about the Owen years and the neoliberal reforms. I might even do it some day)
 

Elephant_trail

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37.Robert Kennedy Democratic 1969-1977 Terry Sanford

Def. Ronald Wilson Reagan Republican Gerald Ford, def .Charles Percy
George H.Bush

38.Nelson Rockefeller Republican Robert Flinch 1977-1979

39. Robert Flinch Republican 1981 Howard Baker

40. Alan Cranston Democratic 1981 -198 Lloyd Bentsen

41. Charlton Heston Republican 1985 1993

def. Edward M. Kennedy Democratic Lloyd Bentsen

42. Bill Clinton Democratic 1993-1997 Albert Gore

def. Ross perrot. Dan Choate. Dan Quayle Patrick Bucannon


43. Al Gore Democratic 1997 -2005 Bill Bradly

DEF. George W bush , RALPH NADER.


44. Democratic Hubert Humphrey junior Joe Leiberman 2005-2013

def. George Cabot Lodge" first in 2004. Bill first 2008

45. Barrack Hussain Obama Republican Mitt Romney 2013.

def. Martin omally



37.Robert Kennedy wins although the Vietnam war ends the economy goes down in flames.

38.Rocky gets his dreams of becoming president economy get better but Rockefeller gets heart attack in suspicious circumstance.

39. Flinch handles the reigns but democrats retain house control and nothing gets done.

40. Cranston gets the presidency although health care is passed the economy goes s into turmoil,

41. popular actor becomes president cold war ends.

42. Charismatic governor becomes president resigns after getting intern pregnant. funny exchange with Dan Quayle

"Bill Clinton has no military experience. "At least I can spell potato."

43. Inventor of internet becomes president try's to get climate change legislation passed through a republican congress

44.Son of the late happy warrior becomes president us. Russia go on joint mission to moon.

45.First black president from Democratic family but illinois is a Republican state
 
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Mumby

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i decided to do this myself

Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

1908-1908: H.H. Asquith (Liberal majority)
1908-1911: H.H. Asquith (Liberal leading War Government)
1911-1919: Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener (Independent leading War Government with Liberals and Unionists)
1919-1920: Jan Smuts (Independent leading War Government with Liberals and Unionists)
1920-1928: Jan Smuts (National)
1920 (Majority) def. Robert Griffith (Sinn Fein), Henry Page Croft (Independent Unionist), Richard Haldane (Independent Liberal), George Nicoll Barnes (Labour), Joseph Devlin (Irish Parliamentary)
1924 (Majority) def. James Seddon (Labour), Horatio Bottomley (Independent Parliamentary Group), Eamon de Valera (Anti-Dual Monarchy Sinn Fein), T.P. O'Connor (Catholic)

1928-1942: Christabel Pankhurst (National)
1929 (Majority) def. Arthur Henderson (Labour), Noel Pemberton Billing (Independent Parliamentary Group), John Quinn (Catholic), Eamon de Valera (Fianna Fail)
1933 (Majority) def. William X. O'Brien (Labour), James Gascoyne-Cecil, 4th Marquess of Salisbury (Independent Parliamentary Group), Alice McCormick (Catholic)
1937 (Majority) def. Ellen Wilkinson (Labour), Oswald Mosley (Independent Parliamentary Group), Matthew Grogan (Catholic)


A few rationales here;

You'll notice the Great War begins in 1908 and only finally ends in 1920 - my logic here is that Ze Germans in WW1 seem to be kind of Nazi-y in Sky Captain and I think that's only really possible if the Germans go full on Endsieg and WW1 stretches on for years and years.

It also features the rapid rise of women in the World of Tomorrow - the longer WW1 leads to a higher deathtoll and hence a rather worse gap between the male and female populations. This allows women to ascend to high ranks in the military after the war.

The British Empire is still top dog, and reinforced by Jan Smuts' legacy - the Imperial Air Legion (attached to the Royal Navy).
 

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The March on Washington
The Business Plot: An American 23F

1933-1935: Franklin D. Roosevelt / James N. Garner (Democratic)
1932: Herbert C. Hoover / Charles Curtis (Republican)
1.5.1935-1.12.1935: Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. (Democratic) [Acting]
1.5.1935-1.9.1935: Smedley D. Butler (Redeemer) [Acting]
1.9.1935-1.11.1935: Hugh S. Johnson (Redeemer) [Acting]
1.11.1935-1.12.1935: Robert L. Bullard (Redeemer--- Washington) [Acting] [Disputed]
1.12.1935: Smedley D. Butler (Redeemer--- Washington) [Acting] [Disputed]
1.11.1935-1.13.1935: John W. Davis (Redeemer--- Silver Springs) [Acting] [Disputed]

1935-1937: Franklin D. Roosevelt / vacant (Democratic)
1937-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry L. Stimson (Democratic)

1936: Huey P. Long / William F. Lemke (Unionist), H. Styles Bridges / Charles L. McNary (Republican)
1940: Douglas MacArthur / Hamilton S. Fish III (Republican)

1937-1938: Gerald C. MacGuire (Redeemer, Social Front, American Freedom Front, Patriot’s Party, American Fascist-Socialist Movement)
1940-1943: William D. Pelley (National Christian “Silver Shirt”)

The January Uprising as it was remembered was an aberration of American Democracy that very quickly devolved into farce. A Fascist uprising led by Social Club type Veterans organizations and initially lead by a self-professed Socialist lasted little over a week as it collapsed. The President was captured, the Vice President was killed, most of Congress and the Senate were captured and yet the lack of a unified vision or consistant goals made the thing shatter upon itself. Perhaps, had MacArthur been wooed things would have been different, and perhaps that might not have been as hard as he would long after deny considering his own views and ties to many of the men who became "The National Corporate Board" which met in the War Department during the Siege of Washington he led. Perhaps had the plan gone off more smoothly Roosevelt would have simply given in and appointed Butler as a Secretary of General Affairs as had been originally hoped. But the astroturf was thick and the ground game light. US Governors across the nation met in Chicago and simply declared a new Government, fishing out the most senior administration figure not compromised (At least with these crimes) and outside of the Fascist area of control and signed a letter granting him Emergency Powers, the Armed Forces were willing to accept this for a time and the thing was over in days. And yet it there would be the ever more farcical three coups within the plot, until Butler having seized power once more simply surrendered in exchange for a pardon and the guarantee of his pension. His final rival, Davis was initally to be part of the surrender but split after the senior leadership was not granted similar privileges, he would be arrested by J. Edgar Hoover in Maryland. With the exception of Butler who was expelled from the country and forced to relocate to Cuba, all the other acting presidents of the plot and nearly all of the NCB would be executed before 1938. Gerald MacGuire the Legionary dynamo at the heart of the plot would be dispatched the day General Johnson had assumed leadership to head to Texas to try and win over political support from Southern Governors, able to escape to Mexico he would remain there until December of 1938 when a General Amnesty after the last executions was proclaimed by the Second Roosevelt Administration.

That said some would not accept their pardons, and remain underground, an ever more comic affair until in 1940 upon the Roosevelt administrations declaration of War against Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy in the Oregon Badlands a new proclamation by a new "National Corporate Board" created from the ether declared a New American Chief as heir to the "Government of the Glorious '35"
 
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napoleon IV

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My personal hill I will die on is that Butler made the whole thing up but it's fun and everyone should read @Mumby's Chasing Shadows about it being an actual thing.
I kind of want it to be real, just because the idea of a bunch of rich businessmen picking notorious critic of American corporations Smedley Butler as their plot's leader tickles me pink.
 

Mumby

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I kind of want it to be real, just because the idea of a bunch of rich businessmen picking notorious critic of American corporations Smedley Butler as their plot's leader tickles me pink.
You have to remember that if we follow Butler's chronology - he was approached by Maguire in the late summer/autumn of 1934 - at which point in time I believe Butler was more well known for his illustrious career as a marine and his brief tenure as Philadelphia Director of Public Safety in which he carried out actions some fascists may find admirable.
 

Japhy

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I kind of want it to be real, just because the idea of a bunch of rich businessmen picking notorious critic of American corporations Smedley Butler as their plot's leader tickles me pink.
I think the bigger thing is how everyone he listed was someone he had issues with during his career or had issues with his father the Congressmen or were men he blamed for his career in the Corps stalling out.
 

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Millard Fillmore / none (Whig) 1850-1853

Lewis Cass / Solomon W. Downs (Democratic) 1853-1854
1852: def. Winfield Scott / William A. Graham (Whig) and Franklin Pierce / Salmon P. Chase (Free Soil)

Lewis Cass / none (Democratic) 1854-1857

Lewis Cass / Abraham Lincoln (Democratic) 1857-1861
1856: def. William L. Dayton / Schuyler Colfax (Popular Republican) and Millard Fillmore / Andrew J. Donelson (Know-Nothing)

Franklin Pierce / Henry Smith Lane (Popular Republican) 1861-1865
1860: def. Abraham Lincoln / Jefferson Davis (Southern Democratic) and Sam Houston / Stephen A. Douglas (Democratic Unionist)

Franklin Pierce / Alexander H. Stephens (National Unionist) 1865-1867^
1864: def. Horatio Seymour / Charles O'Conor (Democratic)

Alexander H. Stephens / none (National Unionist/Democratic) 1867-

We all know the story. The story of the New Hampshire Democrat who went down a Free Soil path to become a part of the growing Popular Republican Party, and become a loud opposition to slavery due to his (somewhat secret) socialist beliefs, leading him to lead America into a civil war in which the North and freedom won over a seceding South desperate to keep its slaves bound, and tragically shot in the process by a pro-slavery actor.

How could have Franklin Pierce gone anywhere else?

We all know the story. The story of a Kentucky boy who went south to Tennessee and became more influenced by his neighbours' conservative beliefs, and despite being a moderate at first, radicalised into becoming ultimately the figurehead of a seceding Confederacy, and ultimately hanged for being a traitor after the war finished, but becoming an icon of the defiant South against "Northern tyranny" in the process.

How could have Abraham Lincoln gone anywhere else?

We all know the story. The story of a man torn by his contradictory beliefs in both preserving the Union and preserving slavery, and ultimately he chose the Union above all, and became a pro-war Democrat, up to being chosen by Pierce for his "National Unionist" ticket and after Pierce's untimely death, felt obliged to continue on Pierce's work, even if much more watered down than Pierce would have liked.

How could have Alexander Stephens gone anywhere else?
 

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I keep seeing things about Pierce being a socialist or socialist-friendly on the forums. Where does that come from?
He literally led a student strike at his university, and was best buds with utopian socialist writers.

Went distressingly conservative later on, but early Pierce is fun for AH stuff.
 

Charles EP M.

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2019-2020: BORIS JOHNSON (CONSERVATIVE)

After months of self-inflicted damage and crises, Johnson narrowly secures a deal with the EU - to get it, most of May's backstop deal is retained but under a brand spanking new "Northern Ireland Special Economic Zone" name, with a Stormont majority allowed to vote NI out of it. The DUP's support vanishes overnight but Johnson is able to restore the whip to 14 of the 22 rebels, and Labour is divided on what to do now there is a deal (and do they want to try and figure it out themselves anyway). Johnson's deal scraps through Commons, he asks for a month's extension to finalise all the details, and then demands an election - conveniently he organises it for the same week as 'Independence Day'.

Both Labour and Conservatives run election campaigns on "I Will Spend On Things", the SNP and Plaid Cymru use the absolute certainty of leaving to call for nationalism, the DUP runs on Betrayed, and both the Lib Dems and Brexit Party are flailing as Remain/Leave is now neutralised as an issue to vote on. Johnson and Corbyn both expect victories.

Johnson enters the election with 302 MPs and leaves with... 295 MPs, losing Lib Dem/Tory marginals and the bulk of the Scottish seats, his grand "take northern Labour seats" plan failing (though there are gains in the Midlands). Labour, Lib Dems, and SNP have all made gains, though not as much as they wanted and this is a major disappointment for Labour. The Brexit Party achieve not a blessed thing. The DUP finds itself losing some seats to its rivals, the TIGs vanish completely.

There is no route to a majority for Johnson but still none for anyone else either. He is helped as Labour explodes into a vicious factional civil war over losing again, but the only way he can pass anything is to crawl to the UUP and Lib Dems for votes on a case-by-case basis, as Swinson refuses a supply-and-control deal with him as much as Corbyn.

This cannot possibly work.


2019-2020: MICHAEL GOVE (CONSERVATIVE)


Johnson is shoved out in a party coup and a new election called. Gove has huge, ambitious plans and he's going to do everything and oh shit the country's in a minor recession as it adjusts to Brexit but he has a campaign plan and--

2020-2025: JOHN MCDONNELL (LABOUR)

Corbyn was convinced to go and McDonnell took charge, and the combination of not-being-Corbyn bounce, the recession, Gove being a bit of a weird looking guy, and the Lib Dems making a greater play for the centre-right (and for the unionist vote in Scotland) help Labour take juuuuust enough seats to be a stable government under a supply-and-control agreement with the SNP - vote support in exchange for an agreed new independence referendum in late 2020.

The Yes voters do better than in 2014 but not well enough to gain independence, because people are goddamn sick of chaos and votes and change, and just want stuff fixed (but not changed!). This soon starts to prove a problem for McDonnell, who has a mandate for Labour's big sweeping reforms but a lot of voters rebel at council level & in MP surgeries when he does any of them. He hopes to get enough of them embedded for the next election, while Swinson hopes to butcher the wounded, devastated Conservative Party (which is rapidly losing every member who isn't far-right) and take the Liberal Democrats into Loyal Opposition status. Johnson and Gove have books out on the same day.
 

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He literally led a student strike at his university, and was best buds with utopian socialist writers.

Went distressingly conservative later on, but early Pierce is fun for AH stuff.
Its so overexagerated how impactful that stuff was. His closest friendship was with Hawthorne and I mean look at what a slaver piece of shit he was.
 
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