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Meppo said:
I understand, but honestly speaking I do not feel the impending doom nearly as much as I theoretically should from this freakshow alone

I also wonder if Malofeyev had anything to say about his former employee, the premier Hero of the Russian Spring™, getting arrested over a Telegram post about soldiers not getting paid, but then again a sitting State Duma deputy has not said anything to date about her fucking husband getting arrested over a statement in support of a group of Marxists from Ufa, so whatever.
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I don't feel much about this other than people like Hinkle got another formal connection other than his Republican buddies. At the same time, I don't see much of this really changing the basic facts of what already is going on the ground. Most of these people had the politics of the Black Hundreds, and its just another confirmation of that.

Also I always find it funny when these people think Haz is a thought leader when even MLs online clown on him due to how stupid him and his fans are (he reminds me of that Okhrana guy that proposed "Police socialism").

@Blackentheborg though I Have some bets one of the people here will eventuallu guest at CPAC.

Wait what is the story about this nationalist MP may I ask @Meppo? I do feel I have a better grasp of Russian Politics and history than before, but I still feel I need to fill in lots of gaps.
 
Stikfigur said:
Wait what is the story about this nationalist MP may I ask @Meppo? I do feel I have a better grasp of Russian Politics and history than before, but I still feel I need to fill in lots of gaps.
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Sike, the MP is Anastasia Udaltsova (CPRF), married to Sergei Udaltsov, Left Front activist, 2011 protests headliner and an avid supporter of the Russian war against Ukraine, from the annexation of Crimea to the special military operation, as has been the case with many far-left and far-right organizers cracked apart by the events of 2014.

Stikfigur said:
Also I always find it funny when these people think Haz is a thought leader when even MLs online clown on him due to how stupid him and his fans are (he reminds me of that Okhrana guy that proposed "Police socialism").
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he reminds me of Stas iKakProsto
 
Meppo said:
Sike, the MP is Anastasia Udaltsova (CPRF), married to Sergei Udaltsov, Left Front activist, 2011 protests headliner and an avid supporter of the Russian war against Ukraine, from the annexation of Crimea to the special military operation, as has been the case with many far-left and far-right organizers cracked apart by the events of 2014.


he reminds me of Stas iKakProsto
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What do you mean cracked apart? Split in politics or like cracked down on by the civil nationalists?

And who is this ikakprosto man? From what I can gather he is a musician and blogger, and has the same politics as haz, probably.

IIRC the CPRF is pretty much controlled opposition like most other parties in Russia, correct? From what I gather, its pretty defunct as an actual party doing politics.
 
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What do you mean cracked apart? Split in politics or like cracked down on by the civil nationalists?
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Split politically, I mean, inbetween being cracked down by the police on an individual level I should have made that clearer beyond mentioning 2014. For example, former MP Ilya Ponomaryov and his aide Leonid Razvozzhayev, both closely involved with CPRF and the 2011 protests to the point of Razvozzhayev having been a high-profile political prisoner, now support Ukraine and Russia respectively.

On the other side of the aisle, high-profile Russian Marches organizer and neo-Nazi "Slavic Union" founder Dmitry Dyomushkin has called the beginning of the Russo-Ukrainian war in 2014 "erroneous" and condemned the special military operation; one of the former members of the "Slavic Union"'s St. Petersburg branch, Alexei Milchakov, has gone on to fight in the Donbass frontlines and lead the notorious Rusich Group.

Side note: in 2023 Rusich and the Russian Volunteer Corps exchanged statements in Telegram agreeing not to desecrate the bodies of "their fallen right[-wing] comrades", i.e. each other's dead soldiers. Funny how that happens.
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And who is this ikakprosto man? From what I can gather he is a musician and blogger, and has the same politics as haz, probably.
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Stanislav "Stas 'Satori' iKakProsto" Vasilyev, born in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast in 1988, began his YouTube career in 2013 as a tech blogger and became notable through his plain-spoken, swear word-filled style of explaining and comparing phone and computer specifics to the average viewer. Started out politically as a self-proclaimed libertarian, as far as I can ascertain, and called Russia a fascist state in 2020 before contrarianing his way into self-proclaimed Stalinism, making shitty documentaries about Donbass while publicly proclaiming himself "anti-war, just against every war rather than just this war" and getting employed by Solovyov for a brief moment.

I'm not particularly familiar with Adam "Infrared" "Haz al-Din" Tahir's content beyond a surface level, so tell me if any of this tracks.

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IIRC the CPRF is pretty much controlled opposition like most other parties in Russia, correct? From what I gather, its pretty defunct as an actual party doing politics.
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In a certain sense, yes. However, CPRF's status as the second largest party in Russia has led plenty of independent-minded figures, activists and overall people who hate United Russia - particularly on the lower levels - to accumulate around it.
 
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Meppo said:
Split politically, I mean, inbetween being cracked down by the police on an individual level I should have made that clearer beyond mentioning 2014. For example, former MP Ilya Ponomaryov and his aide Leonid Razvozzhayev, both closely involved with CPRF and the 2011 protests to the point of Razvozzhayev having been a high-profile political prisoner, now support Ukraine and Russia respectively.


Stanislav "Stas 'Satori' iKakProsto" Vasilyev, born in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast in 1988, began his YouTube career in 2013 as a tech blogger and became notable through his plain-spoken, swear word-filled style of explaining and comparing phone and computer specifics to the average viewer. Started out politically as a self-proclaimed libertarian, as far as I can ascertain, and called Russia a fascist state in 2020 before contrarianing his way into self-proclaimed Stalinism, making shitty documentaries about Donbass while publicly proclaiming himself "anti-war, just against every war rather than just this war" and getting employed by Solovyov for a brief moment.

I'm not particularly familiar with Adam "Infrared" "Haz al-Din" Tahir's content beyond a surface level, so tell me if any of this tracks.


In a certain sense, yes. However, CPRF's status as the second largest party in Russia has led plenty of independent-minded figures, activists and overall people who hate United Russia - particularly on the lower levels - to accumulate around it.
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Haz is a streamer that does the whole "National Patriotic Socialism" which in practice like Hinkle means Welfare chauvinism, Racist Socdem, or strasserism, what you call it. He is unironically the kind to say "socialism is when government and thats good" which leads him to make statements like this:

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This is extra stupid when you consider that Biden is probably the closest thing to a Patsoc in actual american politics in terms of stuff like protectionism, reindustrialization, being a ghoul to immigrants, all wrapped in workerist policies and rhetoric.
 
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One more thing: I always felt a little off when people describe others or even themselves as Nazbols because I don't know if they know what they mean. Nazbols as originally thought only really works in places like the former eastern bloc where the Communist era can reasonably be argued as the "peak" of a country, and that doesn't work in other places. I don't think China or Vietnam works because the main point of their nationalisms (especially for China) is that their country has never been as big and relevant as now and they are very proud of it.

In practice, what people like Haz and Hackson Dinkle are really referring to is just basically being a really racist Socdem, which isn't even that radical of a proposal since even in America, as reindustrialized workerism with being a ghoul towards immigrants is something that has very much permeated politics (especially the Democratic Party as of recently). The only thing that really sets them apart is which country or general camp they are loyal to, and even that isn't that special in the grand scheme of things.
 
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I and others on political twitter/discords did joke that Biden is the true patsoc because he does the protectionism and reindustrialization stuff with more effective messaging than the typical Trumpian method to get internal groups on board with the industry stuff and giving actual concessions to labor, which is something trump never does.

But more generally I think this is a result of a more broad shift within America as a whole where this kind of stuff is more mainstream, and nationalism is more welcomed in places where it previously wasn't as much.

I wish people didn't realize the large contingent of "fuck you I got mine" immigrants because that definitely was a factor in this shift.
 
Y'know, the more I learn about the oldhat political conspiracies -- Frank Olson, Gary Webb, Danny Casolaro, Karen Silkwood, William O'Neal, James Earl Ray, even Smedley Butler -- you start to see a pattern where the respective governments just go "nuh uh" and the public move on. And then they get trivialised by pop culture, and the spooks don't mind those, since they're usually open-ended enough to laugh off.

I was working on a TL where Bob Lazar was right and some aliens go full public disclosure, because that's funny, but I learned about this one guy called Paul Bennewitz, an industrial businessmen who got into UFOs. As part of a larger campaign to infiltrate burgeoning conspiracy communities, spooks started feeding him false info, getting people to supply him with "classified documents" alleging the Air Force had a secret base full of lizard people. It got so bad that he had a full nervous breakdown and got put in a mental hospital. AND THE CIA FREELY ADMITTED THEY DID IT.

Makes ya think
 
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