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I have also wanted to talk about this. Professional Football looks very similar to what it did before 1920 OTL. Much of the sport is very, very regionalized, with no true governing force nationally. This leads to a very interesting sport, especially in the northeast as their "version" of football has been often mixed with other forms. For instance in lower New England one can find similarities to Gaelic football with a double goal post, and in upper New England, where one can find similarities to Canadian football, as the sport includes the "rouge". While this may be unfortunate for the viewer (college football is still very dominant), it is fantastic for the athlete. Various leagues pretty much jump over each other to acquire talent from each other (or to stop athletes from jumping into some other profession), with salaries jumping massively. It also led to a much quicker desegregation of the sport, as fights for talent led to black athletes making tons of money in leagues starting in the 1930s (although the Southern Professional Football League remained segregated until the 1950s). These fights for talent also led to HBCUs being much more respected on the college football landscape.Hey, @gentleman biaggi
We know what college football looks like, but what does pro football look like in the Many States?
I have also wanted to talk about this. Professional Football looks very similar to what it did before 1920 OTL. Much of the sport is very, very regionalized, with no true governing force nationally. This leads to a very interesting sport, especially in the northeast as their "version" of football has been often mixed with other forms. For instance in lower New England one can find similarities to Gaelic football with a double goal post, and in upper New England, where one can find similarities to Canadian football, as the sport includes the "rouge". While this may be unfortunate for the viewer (college football is still very dominant), it is fantastic for the athlete. Various leagues pretty much jump over each other to acquire talent from each other (or to stop athletes from jumping into some other profession), with salaries jumping massively. It also led to a much quicker desegregation of the sport, as fights for talent led to black athletes making tons of money in leagues starting in the 1930s (although the Southern Professional Football League remained segregated until the 1950s). These fights for talent also led to HBCUs being much more respected on the college football landscape.
first and formost the position of president was replaced with a governor-general under wilson, and as such all “presidents” after ~1918 are in fact governor-generalsThat's pretty neat.
Anyway, I have another request: a president list. So far I've been able to find:
Robert E. Quinn
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Martin Van Buren
Ulysses S. Grant
Huey Long
Levi P. Morton
Abraham Lincoln
Who are the rest?
first and formost the position of president was replaced with a governor-general under wilson, and as such all “presidents” after ~1918 are in fact governor-generals
as for the remaining presidents/gov-generals i am not sure as i am not completely sure of the PoD - which is likely the early 1800s due to the existence of west connecticut as a state, but i’ll attempt to build some sort of list of post-1918 gov-generals after the next state. as of right now they are:
Woodrow Wilson ~1918-1922
A Republican 1922-1931
Al Smith 1931-1931
Huey Long 1931-1943 (it appears the long decade has been expanded)
Robert E. Quinn 1943-1950
A Republican 1950-(~) 1959
Soapy Williams (likely leading some form of a Labor-People’s-Progressive coalition) 1959-1967
Some Sort of Conservative Coalition 1967-1978
Frank Giglio 1978-1983
David Treen 1983-1984
Jerry Lewis 1984-1992
Frank Gigilo 1992-1997
Jerry Lewis 1997-1999
Tony McGee* 1999-2000
Ray Mabus 2000-2006
Stephen Yokich 2006-2015
???? (could be multiple admins) 2015-“present”
*first black gov-general, replaced lewis upon an ethics scandal
basically, the current political system is a three party Republican-Labor-Democrat system nationally, but the presence of many ethnic/regional/minor parties makes this quite interesting! please note that at the current time none of these presidents/terms are “final”, but fit the events of the TL. perhaps i could write a national electoral update of some sort, or even a long form review from some sort of a bias perspective (A People’s History of the Many States…)
RETURN OF THE KING!Presidents of the United States:
Gary Hart/Dick Gephardt (Democratic) 1989-1993
1988 def. George H.W. Bush/Alan Keyes (Republican), David Duke/George V. Hansen[1] (Populist)[2]
1991 Impeachment[3]: Failed [54-47 For (S), 231-199 For (H)]
Pat Buchanan/Thad Cochran (Republican) 1993-1998
Thad Cochran/vacant (Republican) 1998-1999
Thad Cochran/James R. Thompson (Republican) 1999-2001
1992 def. [backed by "National" Populists[4]] Gary Hart/Dick Gephardt (Democratic), Lowell Weicker/Peter Ueberroth (A USA Party), Ralph Nader/Heart Warrior Chosa (Progressive), Ron Paul/Mary Jane O'Brannon (Libertarian)
1996 def.[5] [backed by America First! alliance of parties] Dick Gephardt/Wayne Dowdy (Democratic), Dick Lamm/Clint Eastwood (Progressive Conservative)
1998 Impeachment[6]: Successful [76-12 For (S), 302-122 For (H)]
Rebecca Vigil-Giron/Mike McWherter (Democratic) 2001-2009
2000 def. [backed by Unite for Progress!] Pat Choate/Steve Forbes (Rebuild), Herb Titus/Mike Pence (Christian Values), James Thompson/John Kasich (Republican)
2004 def. [backed by Unite for Progress!] Pat Choate/Trent Franks (Rebuild)
Mike McWherter/Mazie Hirono (Democratic) 2009-????
2008 def. [backed by Unite for Progress!] John McCain/Steve Forbes (Rebuild)
2012 def. [backed by Unite for Progress!] Tommy Franks/Michael Bloomberg (Rebuild), Jim Gilchrist/Rick Jore (Sovereignty), William Smaldone/Bernard Sanders (Socialist)
[1] Serving prison sentence at time of election[2] Although the Populist ticket didn't receive 5% of the vote nationally (finishing with just over 1.08%), a 10% performance in Louisiana and 7% performance in Idaho gets them mentioned here.
[3] Impeached over misuse of funds to pay off former girlfriend/mistress Donna Rice
[4] Alliance/Fusion with Populists created an "electors controversy", as in the state of Idaho, voters were confused over separate electoral slates, with one having a national Buchanan/Cochran ticket, and the other having a ticket consisting of Buchanan and Representative George V. Hansen (P-ID-02). The split was so severe that it cost Buchanan Idaho, a state that had previously been one of the most Republican in the nation, as president Hart received 179,828 votes, while the Buchanan/Cochran ticket received 178,864 votes (with the Buchanan/Hansen ticket receiving 108,979 votes, almost all of which were in Hansen's district 2). While Hart was eventually awarded the 3 electors after a lengthy court case, one elector, John Peavey, voted for a Hart/Hansen ticket. While Idaho's 3 electors didn't matter, the controversy eventually led to the National Ballot Fusion Act of 1994 being passed by Reformist Republicans and Democrats alike, ironically receiving the blessing of both Hart and Buchanan.
[5] It became commonplace for political parties to unite their allies through a forged alliance, usually with a catchy name. While every single party was doing this by 1996, I'm only designating them for the winners, as naming the Liberal Party (NY)-CPUSA-New Alliance coalition that backed Gephardt seems tedious.
[6] Impeached over illegal use of US funds to Koos Bischoff's Afrikaner Volksfront during post-Apartheid violence in South Africa. While the scandal was compared to Iran-Contra, the atrocities committed by the Volksfront were seen as much more heinous due to the racial impact of the attacks. Not only that, but evidence pointed to Buchanan's funding of American white supremacist mercenaries fighting in South Africa, something many Americans were disgusted by. As such, Buchanan was removed from office, and the resulting controversy led to the downfall of the American Republican Party. Buchanan would later defend himself as defending South Africa from Communists such as Chris Hani (the de facto leader of anti-Apartheid forces after Nelson Mandela's death), but has since largely removed himself from the public eye.
pat buchanan flew tom metzger out like he's an ig thotBiaggi the only mfer to casually describe some of the worst war crimes in human history in the footnotes
Consider this a fanmap1992 def. [backed by "National" Populists[4]] Gary Hart/Dick Gephardt (Democratic), Lowell Weicker/Peter Ueberroth (A USA Party), Ralph Nader/Heart Warrior Chosa (Progressive), Ron Paul/Mary Jane O'Brannon (Libertarian)
luv the map, but this may be more accurateConsider this a fanmap
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