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I think fantasy wins that one, with the Epic of Gilgamesh being published around 1800 BC.
That far back, everything was fantasy.
I think fantasy wins that one, with the Epic of Gilgamesh being published around 1800 BC.
As Patrick Nielsen Hayden said, there was a point when most literature was fantasy.I think fantasy wins that one, with the Epic of Gilgamesh being published around 1800 BC.
That far back, everything was fantasy.
Except for the accounts, those came first.
Don't forget the complaints.
AIUI (which basically means "something @Ciclavex said once") in Spanish the main difference with fantasia is whether it harks to the epic tradition. So I'd imagine it'd include some urban fantasy but not others.Where do you define this as opposed to 'Urban Fantasy' in the category of 'basically it's magic in the real world.'
No it's definitely Utopian 'exploration-voyage' adventures in a foreign land stuff.
Even if we don't include the original Atlantis myths, we're talking double digits of notable authors by the 1700s- Thomas More's Utopia, Margaret, Duchess of Newcastle's The Blazing World, Gulliver's Travels, The Isle of Pines.
Cats don't moan about the staff: they either sell them on, put them up for adoption or have them put down.....Those cat footprints on the mud brick are just them moaning about the staff.
I've been reading Andrew Cartmel's Vinyl Detective books, and there needs to be a word for a genre that's "magical realism but without the magic" - they read very similarly to Jasper Fforde or Ben Aaronovich (unsurprising considering Cartmel is mates with the latter) yet strictly there's nothing fantastic about them.I will defend magical realism's position as a separate sub-genre/tradition. I'd define it as "fantasy without worldbuilding", personally.
Magic RealismI've been reading Andrew Cartmel's Vinyl Detective books, and there needs to be a word for a genre that's "magical realism but without the magic" - they read very similarly to Jasper Fforde or Ben Aaronovich (unsurprising considering Cartmel is mates with the latter) yet strictly there's nothing fantastic about them.