Blackentheborg
Dennis Skinner's molotov
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- Grand Hotel Abyss
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- He/Him
I don't know if its cos I'm drunk or numb to reality but I could live with President Schweitzer
I don't know if its cos I'm drunk or numb to reality but I could live with President Schweitzer
The 2020 United States presidential election in East Midlands was held on Tuesday, November 3, 2020, as part of the 2020 United States presidential election in which all 80 states plus the various Represented People participated.
East Midlands remained a red state, with Trump winning with 55.09% of the vote, while Biden received 39.72% of the vote. This remains the highest percentage of the vote a Democrat was won in the state since Obama in 2008.
I probably horribly misrepresented the fine people of the East Midlands, but that's never stopped me from pursuing a bad idea.
Why is it that when I am logged off I can see your boxes perfectly fine but everyone else's boxes are just thumbnails which I can't see until I log back on? This isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
Sorry, but I haven't the faintest idea why.
Maybe because I uploaded it to discord first, and linked it from there?
I probably horribly misrepresented the fine people of the East Midlands, but that's never stopped me from pursuing a bad idea.
Yep, definitely. I mean leaving aside the fact that you've used the flag of Nottinghamshire for the whole region which... yeah.
-North East Derbyshire should really be in the same boat as Bolsover-Mansfield-Ashfield-Bassetlaw (and to be honest, that quartet is core-Brexit/Trump country really), and I think there's a probable case that Chesterfield would be a narrow victory the other way.
-I can't see a scenario where Hinckley and Bosworth doesn't vote the same way as Harborough- you've got the same dynamics of 'large rural area with a big Lib Dem undercurrent but solidly Conservative otherwise'.
-Rutland, South Northamptonshire and Derbyshire Dales feel like the sort of places that should be either ancestral Republican countryside, or fading Democratic countryside.
There was polling around the time of the election to the extent that Biden would win in a cold war-level landslide if he and Trump were on the ballot in the UK.
I expect things would be very different in a world where the UK is part of the US and both sides of the two party system have had time to tie themselves to the British political system and apply their polarization to it.
Trump loses in a landslide because he's outside the polarized bounds of your political system.
There was polling around the time of the election to the extent that Biden would win in a cold war-level landslide if he and Trump were on the ballot in the UK.
I expect things would be very different in a world where the UK is part of the US and both sides of the two party system have had time to tie themselves to the British political system and apply their polarization to it.
Trump loses in a landslide because he's outside the polarized bounds of your political system.
He's also reported by the British media as a foreign rather than domestic politician which means a very different tone and British conservatives love comparing themselves with American Republicans to paint themselves as more reasonable, which the media wouldn't be able to do in this case.
It's still difficult to argue that he is comfortably to the right of the British overton window. I suppose if the UK was the part of the US, you'd have to assume the british overton window would itself be shifted but then I'm not sure what the point of the thought exercise is if we assume the UK as US states would just be a bunch of US states with the same politics as Ohio.
As much as I loath Trump, and believe so many non-Americans do, I'm fairly convinced that if he were the main right-wing candidate in any other Anglosphere country, most people who vote for right-wing parties would coalesce around him. Hell, people hated him in 2016 and still so many voted for him (nothing to say about last year).
First of all, thank you.
Second, I apologize, I should have done my due diligence to the area and completed some more research before making the map.
Third, here is a map that I hope is more in-line with what would be expected (map is filched from reddit). Ratios might be off, but I'll pin that on American hyperpolarization.
He's also reported by the British media as a foreign rather than domestic politician which means a very different tone and British conservatives love comparing themselves with American Republicans to paint themselves as more reasonable, which the media wouldn't be able to do in this case.
It's still difficult to argue that he is comfortably to the right of the British overton window. I suppose if the UK was the part of the US, you'd have to assume the british overton window would itself be shifted but then I'm not sure what the point of the thought exercise is if we assume the UK as US states would just be a bunch of US states with the same politics as Ohio.
I mean it's a fantasy scenario and all, but having the exact same candidates as OTL doesn't suggest a huge divergence backstory. If all you're doing is plonking candidates down from space, yeah, Trump would do shit.
The Tories in the last few years have been at their most intervensionist and public sector-reconciled since Thatcher, so the last few years are hardly a vindication of how easy it would be for the UK and UK right to fall in behind Republican presidential habits. Actually the opposite.
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Amended version of my National Education Service box.
Also founded on the anniversary of the NHS; I think I made the original on that date as well.NHS equivalent? Oh that's sweet!