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Scalawag


The 2004 United States presidential election was the 55th quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 2, 2004. The incumbent Democratic President Joseph Isadore Lieberman and his running mate Vice President John McCain were elected to a second term, defeating the Republican ticket of John Ellis "Jeb" Bush, the Governor of Florida and his running mate George Pataki, Governor from New York.

Following the September 11 attacks, the death of President Albert Gore, and the destruction of the White House, the Twin Towers and significant damage to the Pentagon, Lieberman ascended to the position of President of the United States. While immensely popular early in his term, by 2004 he was significantly unpopular in his own party, and became the first incumbent President since Carter to have to campaign against his primary challenge, Paul Wellstone.

Lieberman is notable for becoming the first Jewish President of the United States in 2001, and in 2004 he became the first Jewish person to be elected President. By 2004, the main issues were the wars in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, and Sudan. President Liberman won by sweeping the Northeastern states and several Western states, becoming the first Democrat President to win no states in the former Confederacy.

Jeb Bush, brother of 2000 nominee George Bush, and son of President George H. W. Bush, ran a centrist campaign and attempted to appeal to moderate Democrats (even attempting to persuade Zell Miller to switch parties the same way John McCain had before he was appointed Vice-President). After that failed, and faced with a potential upheaval at the Republican convention, he picked New York Governor George Pataki, and invested significant time and money in winning his state. To this day it is the last time a Republican has won more than 45% of the vote in New York.
 

Blackentheborg

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(follow-up to this post)

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After an unplanned extra four years of Trump, America was made to think hard (get it?) about what they wanted. Half of the world was still laughing at them, and the other half had declared jihads, fatāwā, and the more menacing 'proportional response' decades ago. Trade deals were one-sided, the military was losing, mines, factories and farms were all closing in quick succession, things weren't great. That's why they voted for an outsider like Trump, and in turn, an outsider like Yang. How effectively could the Internet's Mayor fix what was quickly breaking down? Ever unconventional, Yang would start by going for the jugular.

Executive orders for a 10% value-added tax on business transactions, a 0.1% tax on financial transactions, a 2% tax on every dollar of net worth above $50 million, and $40/ton carbon tax were signed with a blue ballpoint pen and put into effect the next day. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, even Alito and Thomas - the former three impeached as a result of their Trumpian ties, the latter two 'convinced' to retire - were soon replaced, giving Yang an unprecedented five-strong SCOTUS vacancy. When the Republicans tried their old tricks by refusing to convene a vote, but Yang wasn't having with it, using the constitutional appointments clause to fast track judges Kruger, Gupta, Koh, Jackson and Twitty. After test implementations for poorer households in New Orleans and Oak Hill, the first incarnation of the Freedom Dividend was rolled out nationwide just a few months away from the 2030 midterms. Southern oil rig workers, who'd previously exposed the virtue of their environmentally-damaging industry, were now quite pleased with their work on the booming wind and solar networks. It was what certain message board users would call an 'ASB Democratic Party Wank'. But this astounding first term wasn't without its problems.

Vice President Gabbard, despite billing herself in the Berniecrat mould, was more of a stick in the mud than pessimistic pundits thought, going on camera to disagree with the President's stances on foreign policy and LGBTQI+ legal freedoms time after time. Yang had tried his best to ignore this in the primaries, understanding that she'd not only help diversify the ticket but represent those further centre on the spectrum. Still, he was begining to tire. He got on much better with Governor Hardy, the no-nonsense Chair of the Governors Association who'd been helping save his state from sinking, using some drastic environmental reform of his own. If it wasn't for what happened next, Gabbard angrily resigning her post and pledging to run as an Independent the following year would've been one of the bigger woes of the first Yang administration.

Come 2031, the aptly named President-for-life of Russia Vladimir Putin passed in his sleep, understood to be the end result of a dangerous Propofol- cocktail administered by his personal physician to aid the worsening effects of Parkinson's. What followed was a chaotic power struggle not seen since the death of Stalin years before, only this time it ended with a schism; oligarch and Kremlin insider Igor Rotenberg on one side, ultranationalist buisnessman and the financeer behind the War in Donbass Konstantin Malofeev on the other. Undermining both were the dynamic duo of Ilya Yashin (Russian dissident and PARNAS member) and Leonid Razvozzhayev (Ukranian activist and former kidnapping victim by Russian forces). Less than a fortnight after Putin's passing Russia had exploded into open civil war.

Yang's planned Unilateral Disarmament Pact was put on hold and the Republican's new talking point was how the President had paraded soldiers brought back from the Middle East only to now face mass redeployment to muddy, cold Europe. But Yang stuck to his principal of not breaking it in case America would buy it, tho the country did commit to assisting the UN Bluehats. It might've been this decision that won him reelection with plurality -- for the first time in a long time, the country was drifting back to non-interventionism, and was much more interested in solving domestic issues. The world police were on hold.
 
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rosa

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The 2004 United States presidential election was the 55th quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 2, 2004. The incumbent Democratic President Joseph Isadore Lieberman and his running mate Vice President John McCain were elected to a second term, defeating the Republican ticket of John Ellis "Jeb" Bush, the Governor of Florida and his running mate George Pataki, Governor from New York.

Following the September 11 attacks, the death of President Albert Gore, and the destruction of the White House, the Twin Towers and significant damage to the Pentagon, Lieberman ascended to the position of President of the United States. While immensely popular early in his term, by 2004 he was significantly unpopular in his own party, and became the first incumbent President since Carter to have to campaign against his primary challenge, Paul Wellstone.

Lieberman is notable for becoming the first Jewish President of the United States in 2001, and in 2004 he became the first Jewish person to be elected President. By 2004, the main issues were the wars in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, and Sudan. President Liberman won by sweeping the Northeastern states and several Western states, becoming the first Democrat President to win no states in the former Confederacy.

Jeb Bush, brother of 2000 nominee George Bush, and son of President George H. W. Bush, ran a centrist campaign and attempted to appeal to moderate Democrats (even attempting to persuade Zell Miller to switch parties the same way John McCain had before he was appointed Vice-President). After that failed, and faced with a potential upheaval at the Republican convention, he picked New York Governor George Pataki, and invested significant time and money in winning his state. To this day it is the last time a Republican has won more than 45% of the vote in New York.
Booooo thief!

Jk, good box
 

Meppo

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Come 2031, the aptly named President-for-life of Russia Vladimir Putin passed in his sleep, understood to be the end result of a dangerous Propofol- cocktail administered by his personal physician to aid the worsening effects of Parkinson's. What followed was a chaotic power struggle not seen since the death of Stalin years before, only this time it ended with a schism; oligarch and Kremlin insider Igor Rotenberg on one side, leader of the ultranationalist LDPR and alleged murderer Sergei Furgal on the other, and undermining both, the duo of Ilya Yashin (Russian dissident and PARNAS member) and Leonid Razvozzhayev (Ukranian activist and former kidnapping victim by Russian forces). Less than a fortnight after Putin's passing Russia had exploded into open civil war.
Doubt that Furgal would stick with LDPR given how Degtyarev effectively disowned him, maybe he could lead a breakaway Second Far Eastern Republic though.

If we're doing a dystopian world anyhow, Malofeyev might be more up your alley.

How is the rest of the post-Soviet sphere taking it?

Yang's planned Unilateral Disarmament Pact was put on hold and the Republican's new talking point was how the President had paraded soldiers brought back from the Middle East only to now face mass redeployment to muddy, cold Europe.
Hmm.

How's Spain (and, generally speaking, the European Union) doing?
 

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Doubt that Furgal would stick with LDPR given how Degtyarev effectively disowned him, maybe he could lead a breakaway Second Far Eastern Republic though.

If we're doing a dystopian world anyhow, Malofeyev might be more up your alley.

How is the rest of the post-Soviet sphere taking it?
Fuuuuuuck Malofeyev would've been such a good choice. Do you think people would mind if I edited him in?
The rest of the Eurosphere is confused and somewhat frightened. While it's a Russian Civil War, many outside nations have stakes in who wins. Some are happy with the lessening influence, others are actively playing both sides.
Hmm.

How's Spain (and, generally speaking, the European Union) doing?
I have no idea what spain has to do with any of this.
 

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Here are all the Doctors from the Jeavonsverse. I have some ideas for who the Masters will be and probably will get onto that next.
Further to this, a rundown of the different faces of the Master.

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Miles Richardson plays his father Ian Richardson's incarnation of the Master in the 50th anniversary story, and the Master's own 50th anniversary story following the elder Richardson's death in 2007.
 
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Nofix

Scalawag

The 1920 election is remembered for many reasons. For being the first national election in which women were legally able to vote in all 48 states. For electing the first President to a nonconsecutive term since Grover Cleveland. For being the lowest percentage of the vote a Democrat has received in the Presidential election. For electing two family members from different parties to the Presidency and Vice-Presidency. And for featuring the first contingent election for President since 1824.

After the conclusion of World War 1, Theodore Roosevelt's health dithered between well and exceptionally sick. His son, Quentin Roosevelt, wrote in his journal that his father “seemed like a dying man,” for many periods. Despite this, he recovered well enough that when the Republican National Convention came, “he roared like a lion.”

The split between Roosevelt and the rest of the Republicans could not be simply explained as progressive vs. conservative, as Hoover himself was considered a progressive Republican, but pro-Roosevelt and anti-Roosevelt. Many simply were not trusting of the old man, finding him vain, intolerable, a relic, a party-bolter, and a miscreant. The fights on the convention floor devolved to literal fist fights, with delegates hissing, spitting, booing, jeering, and biting each other.

Roosevelt took only twenty-nine ballots to be nominated, leading the entire time. This was a short and civil affair in comparison to the debacle that was the Democratic convention soon after.

Despite his attempts to sooth divisions between the two wings by accepting Warren G. Harding, a moderate, as his Vice-President, the damage was done. Much as he had eight years ago, swaths of the party left. Unlike him, they had to look around for a bit for a man to rally around.

The Democratic Party nominated, after a record two hundred ballots, and the deaths of two frontrunners and scores of delegates from the Spanish flu, one-term Governor of New Jersey, Edward I. Edwards. He was a choice so noxious to the western, prohibitionist, and rural elements of the Democratic Party, that former party standard-bearer, William Jennings Bryan, bolted and announced his own run, separate from the Democratic Party.

The renegade Republican faction, after a few short weeks of deliberation, found their man. Someone who had not directly waded into the Roosevelt vs. Anti-Roosevelt fist-fight, someone who was moderate enough for the moderates and progressive for the progressives, the former Director of the United States Food Administration, Herbert Hoover.

Hoover's pick for Vice-President was a surprise to many, as it was Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the Democratic nominee for Vice-President. In a Calhoulian twist, Roosevelt sought out the nominations for both the Hooverists and the Democrats, and achieved it, with Hoover waging that the young scion of the Roosevelt family could take in both Democratic votes by virtue of party-affiliation, and even some Republican votes based on his name.

While many Democrats were furious and demanded he be removed from the ticket for this display of partisan treason, others ruefully looked at the polling across the country. It was one thing to be losing states like New Jersey, it was another thing to be told they're liable to place third despite the state's Governor heading the ticket. And it was an entirely different thing entire to be told that Southern states like Virginia and North Carolina were within Republican reach despite their own split.

Edwards had his own misgivings about Franklin Roosevelt, writing that he felt it was a bad decision to nominate the younger man as soon as it happened, but he made no attempts to remove him from the ticket, operating under the belief that such an action would “finally, completely, utterly” split the Democratic Party.

Both Hoover and Bryan received a bewildering number of partisan nominations. Hoover took several state Republican nominations, including that of the Dakota's and Washington. In Texas he received the nomination of both wings of the Republican Party, and even was even at one point offered the nomination of James E. Ferguson's American Party (in exchange for concessions on Prohibition), while still running as an Independent.

Meanwhile, Bryan received the nomination of the national Prohibition Party, as well as several state Progressive and Farmer-Labor Parties, and one section of the North Dakota Nonpartisan League, he also received the nomination from the Nebraska Democratic Party, enabling him to place third, above the regular Democratic ticket in the state.

By October, many Democrats outside of the South wrote off the ticket, and found themselves allying with the Hoover ticket, or more rarely Bryan in a Sisyphean stand for the common man against the big interests. Some even wistfully considered dropping Edwards and simply running the popular Hoover as their man, but were shut down as soon as they spoke. Others gambled on a contingent election, where the Democratic “Solid South” could work with either group Republicans to elect their man as President (operating under the assumption they'd work with the Democrats over “traitorous” Republicans).

Come election day, it was a slaughter for the Democratic Party. While they retained their core Deep South states, and narrowly won Arizona and New Mexico by incredibly small pluralities, they were routed badly outside of it. North Carolina, Arkansas, Virginia, Florida, and even Louisiana, they only were won with pluralities. In South Carolina, they only barely inched past 90% of the vote.

Texas went for Hoover by a narrow margin of one percent (likely more before Democratic vote fixing skewed the numbers). In Wyoming and Arizona, he came within a percentage point of taking it from the Republicans and Democrats, respectively. In Pennsylvania he won win a razor-thin margin of .3% of the vote.

Even in states like Missouri, Tennessee, and Kentucky, the Democrats were unable to capitalize on Republican division, as the Hooverists took many Democratic votes as well as Republican. In the more Electoral Vote-rich states like Pennsylvania and Illinois, they cratered down to single digit percentages of the vote. In New York, Al Smith had all but abandoned them and worked with the Hoover men (in exchange receiving their help for the gubernatorial election. Smith won where Hoover didn't).

Theodore Roosevelt won 260 electoral votes, just six shy of outright victory, from 25 states. Hoover won 171 votes from 11 states. Edwards 99 from 11 states, and Bryan, while he won no states in the end, one lone Democratic Elector from Arizona cast his ballot for Bryan/Roosevelt instead of Edwards/Roosevelt. Franklin Roosevelt, receiving all 171 electoral votes from Hoover's ticket, and all 100 votes from the Democratic ticket (including the one that was for Bryan as President), had 271 votes for Vice-President, meaning he was elected outright instead of having to go to the Senate, where the slim 49-47 Republican majority would likely elect Harding.

Per the rules of the 12th amendment, since no one won a majority of electoral votes for President, the House of Representatives would vote on who to elect. Each state had one vote cast by the delegation as a whole. While the 66th Congress, elected in 1918, had an overwhelming Republican majority in both seats and delegation, some Democrats held out hope that the Republican Congressman from states Hoover won could be persuaded to vote for Hoover for a few rounds while they would try and negotiate with both sides.

It was for naught. Aside from Washington, Idaho, and South Dakota, all Republican delegations dutifully voted for Roosevelt, with the odd objection here and there. He won outright.

Despite belonging to different parties, and being far more distantly related than their names would imply, America now had a President Roosevelt and a Vice-President Roosevelt.
 

Nofix

Scalawag
2040 United States presidential election

There's a bunch of lore I made for this but I don't feel like typing it out right now, so I'll just leave it at this for now. Re-uploaded with major fixes to the popular vote margin since I heavily fudged it before, the original post has been deleted.

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We are a few days away from Ossoff being sworn in as Senator, and this possibly becoming a reality.
 
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