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theflyingmongoose's Test Thread

NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1987 Elections)
1987 Holtzman Accomplishments:
-Balanced the budget
-10%+ Economic Growth
-Raised the minimum wage from $5.15 to $5.30 per hour
-Developed and distributed AIDS vaccine
-Vetoed a federal gay marriage ban
-Imposed total sanctions on South Africa (North Korea sanction levels, increasingly strict ones had already been in place for over a decade)
POVERTY: 8.4%
Q1 Approval:
65%
Q2 Approval: 70%
Q3 Approval: 69%
Q4 Approval: 72%

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YES:
FUNDING: $35 Million
Individual: $9,414,315
Corporate: $5,605,100
Federal: $20,012,040

NO:
FUNDING: $48 Million

Individual: $10,255,310
Corporate: $10,691,109
Federal: $27,210,050

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YES:
FUNDING: $6 Million

Individual: $504,039
Corporate: $0
Federal: $5,000,000

NO:
FUNDING: $932 Million

Individual: $317,410,385
Corporate: $355,314,200
Federal: $257,310,090
 
NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1988 Elections)
1988 Holtzman Accomplishments:
-Balanced the budget
-Raised the minimum wage from $5.30 to $5.50 per hour
-Reduced the threshold required for a unionization vote
-Increased the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000
-Expanded free school meals to include breakfast and lunch for all students
POVERTY: 8.0%
Q1 Approval:
71%
Q2 Approval: 75%
Q3 Approval: 74%
Q4 Approval: 80%
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NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1989 Elections)
1989 Carter Accomplishments:
-Capped college tuition at 15% the average annual income in the state (transferable to lower-cost states but not visa versa)
-Suspended the super-wealthy tax cutoff increase from $1,500,000 to $2,000,000 until 1992
-Imposed a new 3% tax on income over $6,000,000 (double the normal super-wealthy levy) to fund universities suffering from reduced revenue
-Abolished passport and border checks for Americans going to Canada and Canadians going to America
-Expanded full Medicaid services to those making under 125% FPL
POVERTY: 7.8%
Q1 Approval:
67%
Q2 Approval: 63%
Q3 Approval: 59%
Q4 Approval: 57%

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NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1990 Elections)
1990 Carter Accomplishments:
-Raised the minimum wage from $5.50 to $6.00 per hour
-Established a $10 Billion additional minimum annual infrastructure investment
-Set the minimum social security benefit to 105% FPL, cut the maximum to 175% FPL
POVERTY: 7.7%
Q1 Approval:
55%
Q2 Approval: 50%
Q3 Approval: 43%
Q4 Approval: 45%

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NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1992 Elections)
1992 Carter Accomplishments:
-Increased the child tax credit from $1,000 to $1,175
-Increased the EITC from $1,000 to $1,235
-Authorized a small rebate to combat economic downturn
POVERTY: 8.3%
Q1 Approval:
45%
Q2 Approval: 42%
Q3 Approval: 40%
Q4 Approval: 44%
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Barbara Jordan is 100% not going to be in a condition to be Senator by 1992, just from a medical standpoint
Medical technology is a bit better ITTL, and being a Senator doesn't require being in good health (see Byrd, Robert). Jordan was still functioning well enough to chair the immigration reform commission:



However, ITTL she will not run for re-election in 1994 and will pretty much stop attending non-crucial senate votes by midway through that year.
 
NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1993 Elections)
1993 Cohen Accomplishments:
-Raised the minimum wage from $6.00 to $6.15 per hour
-Cut the top income tax rate from 61.5% to 57.5% with steep cuts for lower income groups
-Cut the maximum corporate tax rate from 41.5% to 37.5%
-Expanded Housing First to include 5,000,000 total homes
-Authorized a full national HSR system by 2008
-Expands Carter deregulation policies for the financial sector
-Shepherded Eastern Europe into NATO
-Instituted a better recovery model for Eastern Europe, basically like shock therapy but with US aid for public services
POVERTY: 8.5%
Q1 Approval:
64%
Q2 Approval: 60%
Q3 Approval: 59%
Q4 Approval: 64%
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NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (1994 Elections)
1994 Cohen Accomplishments:
-Raised the minimum wage from $6.15 to $6.25
-Cut the top income tax rate from 57.5% to 55.0%
-Authorized a massive expansion of funding for border security
POVERTY: 8.5%
Q1 Approval:
63%
Q2 Approval: 65%
Q3 Approval: 66%
Q4 Approval: 60%
 
With people like Barbara Jordan being Republicans, and with the various liberal accomplishments of Republican administration, what policy differences are left between the two parties at this point? Just tax rates?
 
With people like Barbara Jordan being Republicans, and with the various liberal accomplishments of Republican administration, what policy differences are left between the two parties at this point? Just tax rates?
The GOP is mostly fine with the status quo of policies, but don't see the need for high taxes to fund them. It's mostly that the Democrats want to go further with things like single-payer while the Republicans don't. There are also still conservative republicans and of course culture wars over immigration/such.

Economic growth under Holtzman was also quite spectacular, so the Republicans have basically decided to stay within the existing system rather than doing any wholesale changes.
 
The GOP is mostly fine with the status quo of policies, but don't see the need for high taxes to fund them. It's mostly that the Democrats want to go further with things like single-payer while the Republicans don't. There are also still conservative republicans and of course culture wars over immigration/such.

Economic growth under Holtzman was also quite spectacular, so the Republicans have basically decided to stay within the existing system rather than doing any wholesale changes.
That makes sense-and points to potential for the broad consensus to be undermined in the future. Thank you for the detailed explanation.
 
NATO Forever: Presidential Elections & Presidents
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2012- Obama def. Romney by a modest margin
2016- Kim def. Obama by a razor-thin margin while losing the popular vote by 5%
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PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
37. Hubert Humphrey (D):
January 20, 1969-January 20, 1973
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R): January 20, 1973-April 23, 1979

39. Russell Peterson (R): April 23, 1979-January 20, 1981
40. Elizabeth Holtzman (D): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
41. Jimmy Carter (D): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
42. William Cohen (R): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
43. Colin Powell (R): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
44. Al Gore (D): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
45. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2013-January 20, 2017
46. Young Kim (R): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
47. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2021-Present


VICE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
39. Edmund Muskie (D):
January 20, 1969-January 20, 1973
40. Russell Peterson (R): January 20, 1973-April 23, 1979
VACANT: April 23, 1979-July 11, 1979
41. Gerald Ford (R): July 11, 1979-January 20, 1981
42. Jimmy Carter (D): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989

43. Tom Bradley (D): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
44. Newt Gingrich (R): January 20, 1993-October 7, 1995
VACANT: October 7, 1995-December 5, 1995
45. Barbara Jordan (R): December 5, 1995-January 20, 1997

46. Colin Powell (R): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2001
47. John Kasich (R): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005

48. Dianne Feinstein (D): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
49. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2013
50. John Edwards (D): January 20, 2013-May 4, 2014

VACANT: May 4, 2014-August 2, 2014
51. Bill Richardson (D): August 2, 2014-July 16, 2016
VACANT: July 16, 2016-August 9, 2016
52. Hillary Rodham (D): August 9, 2016-January 20, 2017
53. Adam Kinzinger (R): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
54. Kamala Harris (D): January 20, 2021-Present

SPEAKERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:
45. John McCormack (D): January 10, 1962-January 3, 1971
46. Mo Udall (D): January 3, 1971-January 3, 1973

47. Gerald Ford (R): January 3, 1973-January 3, 1975
48. Carl Albert (D): January 3, 1975-January 3, 1977
49. John Lindsay (R): January 3, 1977-January 3, 1979
50. Mo Udall (D): January 3, 1979-November 25, 1984
51. Ed Markey (D): November 25, 1984-January 3, 1987
52. Don Edwards (D): January 3, 1987-January 3, 1989
53. Ed Markey (D): January 3, 1989-January 3, 1991

54. Stewart McKinney (R): January 3, 1991-January 3, 1995
55. Ed Markey (D): January 3, 1995-January 3, 2001
56. Roy Blunt (R): January 3, 2001-January 3, 2003
57. Ed Markey (D): January 3, 2003-January 3, 2007
58. John Boehner (R): January 3, 2007-April 5, 2012
59. Paul Ryan (R): April 5, 2012-January 3, 2015

60. Nancy Pelosi (D): January 3, 2015-January 3, 2023
61. Brian Fitzpatrick (R): January 3, 2023-Present

MAJORITY LEADERS OF THE SENATE:
Mike Mansfield (D): January 3, 1961-October 3, 1976
Ted Kennedy (D): October 3, 1976-January 3, 1977

Charles Percy (R): January 3, 1977-January 3, 1979
Ted Kennedy (D): January 3, 1979-January 3, 1991
Barbara Jordan (R): January 3, 1991-January 3, 1995
Mark Hatfield (R): January 3, 1995-January 3, 1999

Chuck Schumer (D): January 3, 1999-January 3, 2001
Michael Huffington (R): January 3, 2001-January 3, 2005
Harry Reid (D): January 3, 2005-January 3, 2011
Matthew Fong (R): January 3, 2011-January 3, 2013
Harry Reid (D): January 3, 2013-January 3, 2015
Arlen Specter (R): January 3, 2015-March 7, 2015
Joe Lieberman (R): March 7, 2015-January 3, 2019

Kamala Harris (D): January 3, 2019-January 3, 2021
Chuck Schumer (D): January 3, 2021-January 3, 2023
Josh Gottheimer (D): January 3, 2023-Present


PRESIDENTS PRO TEMPORE OF THE SENATE:
Richard Russell (D): January 3, 1969-October 26, 1971
Allen Ellender (D): October 26, 1971-January 3, 1973
James Eastland (D): January 3, 1973-January 3, 1977

Milton Young (R): January 3, 1977-January 3, 1979
Warren Magnuson (D): January 3, 1979-January 3, 1991
Strom Thurmond (R): January 3, 1991-January 3, 1997
Ted Stevens (R): January 3, 1997-January 3, 1999

Warren Magnuson (D): January 3, 1999-January 3, 2001
Ted Stevens (R): January 3, 2001-January 3, 2005
Daniel Inouye (D): January 3, 2005-January 3, 2011
Ted Stevens (R): January 3, 2011-January 3, 2013
Chuck Schumer (D): January 3, 2013-January 3, 2015
Ted Stevens (R): January 3, 2015-January 3, 2019
Bill Nelson (D): January 3, 2019-Present
 
NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (Supreme Court)
Supreme Court (January 20, 1973):
CJ: Arthur Goldberg (1969, Humphrey)
AJ: William Douglas (1939, Roosevelt)
AJ: William Brennan (1956, Eisenhower)
AJ: Potter Stewart (1958, Eisenhower)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Thurgood Marshall (1967, Johnson)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Harry Blackmun (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)

6 LIBERALS
3 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1977):
CJ:
Arthur Goldberg (1969, Humphrey)
AJ: William Brennan (1956, Eisenhower)
AJ: Potter Stewart (1958, Eisenhower)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Thurgood Marshall (1967, Johnson)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Harry Blackmun (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)


5 LIBERALS
4 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1981):

CJ: Arthur Goldberg (1969, Humphrey)
AJ: William Brennan (1956, Eisenhower)
AJ: Potter Stewart (1958, Eisenhower)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Thurgood Marshall (1967, Johnson)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Harry Blackmun (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)

5 LIBERALS
4 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1985):

CJ: Arthur Goldberg (1969, Humphrey)
AJ: William Brennan (1956, Eisenhower)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Harry Blackmun (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: Edward Levi (1981, Holtzman)
AJ: A. Leon Higgenbotham (1983, Holtzman)


6 LIBERALS
3 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1989):

CJ: Arthur Goldberg (1969, Humphrey)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Harry Blackmun (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: Edward Levi (1981, Holtzman)
AJ: A. Leon Higgenbotham (1983, Holtzman)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)


6 LIBERALS
3 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1993):

CJ: Edward Levi (1990, Carter)
AJ: Byron White (1962, Kennedy)
AJ: Shirley Hufstedler (1970, Humphrey)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: A. Leon Higgenbotham (1983, Holtzman)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)
AJ: Richard Riley (1991, Carter)


7 LIBERALS
2 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 1997):

CJ: Edward Levi (1990, Carter)
AJ: Frank Johnson (1972, Humphrey)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: A. Leon Higgenbotham (1983, Holtzman)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)
AJ: Richard Riley (1991, Carter)

AJ: Jose Cabranes (1993, Cohen)
AJ: Sandra Day O'Connor (1996, Cohen)


6 LIBERALS
2 MODERATES
1 CONSERVATIVE

Supreme Court (January 20, 2001):

CJ: Edward Levi (1990, Carter)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: A. Leon Higgenbotham (1983, Holtzman)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)
AJ: Richard Riley (1991, Carter)

AJ: Jose Cabranes (1993, Cohen)
AJ: Sandra Day O'Connor (1996, Cohen)
AJ: Merrick Garland (1999, Cohen)


6 LIBERALS
2 MODERATES
1 CONSERVATIVE

Supreme Court (January 20, 2005):

CJ: Richard Riley (2004, Powell)
AJ: John Paul Stevens (1975, Rockefeller)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)

AJ: Jose Cabranes (1993, Cohen)
AJ: Sandra Day O'Connor (1996, Cohen)
AJ: Merrick Garland (1999, Cohen)
AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)


4 LIBERALS
3 CONSERVATIVES
2 MODERATES

Supreme Court (January 20, 2009):

CJ: Richard Riley (2004, Powell)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)

AJ: Jose Cabranes (1993, Cohen)
AJ: Sandra Day O'Connor (1996, Cohen)
AJ: Merrick Garland (1999, Cohen)
AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)

AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2007, Gore)


5 LIBERALS
3 CONSERVATIVES
1 MODERATE

Supreme Court (January 20, 2013):

CJ: Merrick Garland (2011, Gore)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)

AJ: Jose Cabranes (1993, Cohen)
AJ: Sandra Day O'Connor (1996, Cohen)
AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)

AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2007, Gore)
AJ: Elena Kagan (2012, Gore)


5 LIBERALS
3 CONSERVATIVES
1 MODERATE

Supreme Court (January 20, 2017):

CJ: Merrick Garland (2011, Gore)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)

AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)

AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2007, Gore)
AJ: Elena Kagan (2012, Gore)
AJ: Lucy Koh (2014, Obama)


6 LIBERALS
2 CONSERVATIVES

Supreme Court (January 20, 2021):

CJ: Merrick Garland (2011, Gore)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)
AJ: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1989, Carter)

AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)

AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2007, Gore)
AJ: Elena Kagan (2012, Gore)
AJ: Lucy Koh (2014, Obama)

AJ: John Roberts (2017, Kim)


6 LIBERALS
3 CONSERVATIVES

Supreme Court (Present):

CJ: Merrick Garland (2011, Gore)
AJ: Stephen Breyer (1988, Holtzman)

AJ: John Yoo (2002, Powell)
AJ: Clarence Thomas (2004, Powell)

AJ: Sonia Sotomayor (2007, Gore)
AJ: Elena Kagan (2012, Gore)
AJ: Lucy Koh (2014, Obama)

AJ: John Roberts (2017, Kim)
AJ: Ketanji Brown-Jackson (2022, Biden)


6 LIBERALS
3 CONSERVATIVES

CHIEF JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME COURT:
Earl Warren:
October 5, 1953-June 23, 1969
Arthur Goldberg: June 23, 1969-December 1, 1990
Edward Levi: December 1, 1990-March 15, 2004
VACANT: March 15, 2004-May 20, 2004
Barbara Jordan: May 20, 2004-August 2, 2004 (Recess Appointment)
Richard Riley: August 2, 2004-June 2, 2011
Merrick Garland: June 2, 2011-Present
 
NATO Forever: America In 2023
Population: 315,000,000
GDP: $25.97 Trillion
GDP/C: $82,445
HDI: 0.955
GINI: 45.2
Poverty: 2.2% (By OTL US Standards. ITTL Standards it is about ~4.5%)

Minimum Wage: $18.50 Per Hour
Obesity Rate: 25.9% (Above average but not an outlier in OTL Europe)
Male Life Expectancy: 82.3
Female Life Expectancy: 83.4

Should Homosexuality Be Legal: 94.9% YES/2.7% NO
Should Gay Marriage Be Legal: 92.5% YES/ 5.1% NO
Should Abortion Be Mostly Legal: 74.0% YES/23.5% NO
Is Communism Good? 0.4% YES/96.1% NO
Is Fascism Good? 0.9% YES/97.0% NO
Is Socialism Good? 29.7% YES/ 65.5% NO

Was Hubert Humphrey A Good President? 44.2% YES/ 37.8% NO
Was Nelson Rockefeller A Good President? 46.5% YES/ 38.4% NO
Was Russell Peterson A Good President? 36.8% YES/38.5% NO
Was Elizabeth Holtzman A Good President? 88.2% YES/7.3% NO
Was Jimmy Carter A Good President? 39.5% YES/42.7% NO
Was William Cohen A Good President? 50.0% YES/33.7% NO
Was Colin Powell A Good President? 43.1% YES/42.8% NO
Was Al Gore A Good President? 45.0% YES/41.1% NO
Was Barack Obama A Good President? 57.2% YES/36.7% NO
Was Young Kim A Good President? 31.8% YES/60.5% NO
 
Medical technology is a bit better ITTL, and being a Senator doesn't require being in good health (see Byrd, Robert). Jordan was still functioning well enough to chair the immigration reform commission:



However, ITTL she will not run for re-election in 1994 and will pretty much stop attending non-crucial senate votes by midway through that year.

why is she a republican tho
 
NATO Forever: Expanded Edition (45th UK Parliament, 1970-1971)
PRIME MINISTERS:
Sir Harold Wilson (Labour); October 16, 1964-July 7, 1971

CABINET:
Prime Minister:
Harold Wilson (1964-1971)
First Secretary of State: Barbara Castle (1968-1971)
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Roy Jenkins (1967-1971); Tony Benn (1971-1971)
Foreign Secretary: Michael Stewart (1968-1970); Anthony Crosland (1970-1971)
Home Secretary: James Callaghan (1967-1971)
Defence Secretary: Denis Healey (1964-1971); Edward Shackleton (1971-1971)



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June 25, 1970: Polling day
June 26, 1970: Hung parliament projected by the BBC
June 28, 1970: Beginning of negotiations between Labour, the Conservatives, and the Liberals
July 3, 1970: Jeremy Thorpe and Harold Wilson announce an agreement where the Liberals will provide confidence votes for the government in exchange for the Liberals getting the Speakership of the House of Commons.
July 4, 1970: The new government is formed
July 7, 1970: State opening of parliament
August 1, 1970: The Corporate Fair Share And Financing Act passes Parliament 311-308. It raises the corporate tax rate to 47.5%
September 25, 1970: Russell Johnston of the Liberal Party is elected Speaker of the House of Commons in accordance with the LibLab deal
September 25, 1970: Anthony Crosland replaces Michael Stewart as Foreign Secretary
October 16, 1970: The Urban Green Areas And Beautification Act passes Parliament 320-305. It increases funding for parks and more clean materials
December 6, 1970: The European Economic Community Act passes Parliament 331-193. It allows the UK to join the EEC
January 15, 1971: A cabinet reshuffle is conducted. Among the great offices of state, Defence Minister Denis Healey is replaced by Edward Shackleton.
April 4, 1971: The Housing And Urban Development Act passes Parliament 314-308. It authorizes £3 Billion to clean up and develop cities
April 21, 1971: Prime Minister Wilson announces the appointment of Tony Benn as Chancellor
April 23, 1971: The Liberals immediately file for a vote of no confidence
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April 28, 1971:
The House of Commons votes 321-311 against the government
May 11, 1971: Prime Minister Wilson meets with the Queen and requests a dissolution of parliament
May 15, 1971: Parliament is dissolved. An election is called for July 7, 1971, or 53 days,
July 7, 1971: Polling Day
 
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