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Scenes We'd Like To See: Alternate Movies, Television & Other Pop Culture Miscellanea

Time Enough said:
David Harewood is interestingly a figure that appeared fairly often in speculation around 2017, he wasn’t entirely confident of his chances but did seem eager to play Doctor Who. I get the sense if things had gone differently he would have gotten the job.
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Offhanded thought on Doctor Who Firsts, since Harewood has come up a few times - it's extremely fancasty, but the Tenth Doctor lines up with pretty much the exact window of time in which it would have been reasonable to try and get Idris Elba.

Doesn't look like there was any speculation about him, but he was at the perfect stage in his career and is one of the few actors I could plausibly see being an-even-bigger-hit-than-Tennant in the role. And from what Elba has said about Gatwa's incarnation, seems like there could have been an interesting tension in him becoming the entire face of the show while simultaneously not wanting to be defined as "the black Doctor" at all.
 
Elba in 2005 may have been the last time you wouldn't have to be the X Doctor because the show had just come back and he'd be stepping in when Eccleston was about to step away for over a decade. He'd be  the Doctor as the show cemented itself as the hot new thing and the classic Doctors are long in the past, where Gatwa (and Whitaker as the first female Doctor) come after a line of actors.
 
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1966-1970: Peter Crushing
1970-1974: Ed Bishop
1974-1978: Ron Moody
1978-1980: Jim Dale
1980-1984: John Hallam
1984-1987: Mary Morris

1993: John Sessions

2000-0000: Jeremy Brett
 
Redo various Cagney classics with different endings -let him shoot Pat O'Brien in Angels With Dirty Faces and Jeffrey Lynn in the Roaring Twenties.Maybe fanfiction like this?
My possible doctors included Patrick Moore, Brian Blessed, Rowan Atkinson,Kevin Kennedy.
 
Allen Drury's Advise and Consent series as a TV miniseries. Grace Metalious' Peyton Places filmed for TV as they were written. TV adaptations done like Von Stroheim's Greed -word for word,deed for deed,action for action.
 




(Basically Hamilton, but it's Wicked.)

From Digicyclopedia, the free encylopedia

Burr: An American Musical is a sung-and-rapped-through biographical musical with music, lyrics, and a book by Lin-Manuel Miranda. Based on the 1973 historical novel Burr by Gore Vidal, the musical covers the life of American Founding Father Aaron Burr and his involvement in the American Revolution and the political history of the United States.

Principal Cast

Leslie Odom Jr. as Aaron Burr. Burr is portrayed here, as a tragic Shakespearean-esque protagonist -- a man of considerable political skill and rampant ambition, whose life is filled with great success yet ends in tragic failure.

Lin Manuel Miranda as Charlie Schuyler / Alexander Hamilton. Charlie Schyuler is an ambitious young man, whose personality is clearly influenced by J. Pierrepont Finch from How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, working as an ambivalent law clerk at Burr's law firm while moonlighting as a investigative journalist for opponents of presidential candidate Martin Van Buren. Miranda also portrays Alexander Hamilton who is portrayed, much like the other Founding Fathers in the Musical, as a mortal man -- Hamilton is not only a bastard-born, over-ambitious opportunist who is Burr's frenemy, but is also indirectly responsible for Burr's downfall.

Jonathan Groff as Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson is portrayed a fey and hypocrite of the highest order, who despite it all, earns Burr's teeth-grinding and begruding respect as the greatest politician of his era, he's also shown to be an unvarnished racist and slave owner who has a sexual relationship with one of his underaged female slaves.

Patrick Page as George Washington. Washington is an inept and aloof, yet well meaning military commander patterned after President Dwight Eisenhower. While clearly astute and well-read as a politician, he often chooses to play the austere and apathetic "God of America".

Josh Gad as James Madison. Madison is a sniveling brown-noser, yet is also a complex figure who adheres strictly to the principles of the American Constituion.

( I would add more of the cast, but I've got burnout. lol. sorry. :p )
 


The X-Men - later The Uncanny X-Men - followed a team of 18-year-old mutants whose cover identity was students at an elite prep but, under the watchful eye of Charles Xavier and FBI agent Fred Duncan, worked as a deputised team of federal agents who took down lawbreaking mutants. Their main enemy was Magneto, head of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants criminal organisation that ran on mob lines and would be used as the mafia stand-in for other Marvel Comics throughout the 60s and early 70s. Their other big Silver Age threat was HYDRA, a knock-off of Bond's SPECTRE as the X-Men went more spy-fi; and the Sentinels, a replacement team of robots that decided all mutants were a threat and made explicit the themes of prejudice that had been floated in earlier issues.

Jim Steranko would have a memorable run at the end of the Silver Age, creating a mad pop-art sensibility, making Cyclops a sexy action hero, and pitting them in a huge epic against HYDRA and their founder, ageing war-criminal Von Struker, in which not just the CIA's Nick Fury but Magneto joined the X-Men in battle, the mutant super-criminal unwilling to let Nazis rule. "They're bad for business!"

Declining sales in the 1970s led to new characters joining, including Wolverine - a loose cannon Canadian agent who clashed with Cyclops and went rogue on missions. Chris Claremont started out on some fill-in issues and went on to be the biggest influence after Steranko, boosting the female characters, running with the prejudice issues, and creating new foes like the manipulative establishment Hellfire Club (who had members in the FBI itself and could shut down X-Men missions). He also deepened Magneto by revealing his backstory as a poor kid from the East Side of New York, growing up believing only force and money could protect a minority community, and going from low-level gangster to mutant crimelord when his own people turned on him when they realised he was "a mutie" - crossovers revealing it was Wilson Fisk who screwed him over, not because Fisk himself hated mutants but because he knew others hating them would clear away a rival.

Spinoffs would include X-Factor, where several recurring X-Men supporting characters would form their own non-official team and not let the state dictate how mutants could operate; The New Mutants, who started out as a team of trainees meant to replace the X-Men and then mostly went their own way; and Weapon X, a moody team of special forces and spies that Wolverine used to work with.
 
Suppose Quentin Tarantino takes up adapting another book by a different after Jackie Brown. Maybe the POD is that this film performs better, and that gives him more latitude to adapt a different writer's book whose last cinematic iteration failed critically and commercially: The Bonfire of the Vanities.

Director: Quentin Tarantino
Writer(s): Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary based on the novel by Tom Wolfe
Producer: Lawrence Bender

Cast:

Sherman McCoy: Tom Cruise
Peter Fallow: Tim Roth
Maria Ruskin: Uma Thurman
Judy McCoy: Bronagh Gallagher
D. A. Weiss: Harvey Keitel
A.D.A. Kramer: Eli Roth
Judge Leonard White: Christopher Walken
Reverend Bacon: Samuel L. Jackson
 
To Me, My Capeshit: The One Where 20th Century Fox Is Better With It's Comic Book IP's

X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2006)
  • The POD is that we avoid ... this mess. My god. On the plus side, though, Matthew Vaughn remains in the director's chair.
  • The films opens at Alkali Lake, now barren and dried up -- concurrent to this, we get news reports of strange phenomenons occuring all around the world, accompained by a bright lights in the sky -- we see prisons holding illegally detained mutants destroyed as well as cargo ships transporting mutants to various places overseas for slave labour capsized.
  • The cause of all of this is Jean Grey, who has now become the Phoenix, an alternate personality with a god complex -- taking matters into her own hands, causing destruction around the world. Having grown tired of constant destabalization on Earth -- she seeks the end of the Mutant vs Human conflict, the X-Men, and the Brotherhood -- all on her own terms, once and for all.
  • Magneto, like in the OTL film, is still like: "woaaahhh i can use this chick to do, like, bad shit" and recruits Emma Frost, a former lover of Xavier, to manipulate the unstable Jean.
  • Cyclops doesn't get done dirty here -- and has developed significantly since we've last seen him. The Danger Room is built by Cyclops due to his guilt over Jean's death and his feelings that the X-Men were too weak and too untrained, which resulted in her death -- he believes that the Danger Room can help make them into a stronger team.
  • Rogue and Iceman breakup -- in comes mister wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere (played by Channing Tatum).
  • The film ends on a bittersweet note -- Frost gets defeared, Magneto is MIA, Mystique is the new leader of the Brotherhood, and Scott is forced to kill the love of his life. On a more positive note, Xavier's dream is slowly beginning to be realized, with relations between mutants and humans improving.

Wolverine (2009)
  • prequel time baby.
  • Snyder's first superhero joint instead of Watchmen -- this is probably the one superhero IP he's the most suited for.
  • Apocalypse Now with superheroes, set in 1968 during the Vietnam War.
  • US Army Captain Logan Howlett is tasked by his superior officer, Colonel William Stryker, with hunting down and killing a mysterious mutant located in the jungles of Vietnam named kẻ thù. kẻ thù, like Col. Kurtz, uses an army of both native Vietnamese who worship him as a god as well as reanimated soldiers that wage warfare against both the US Army and the Viet Cong.
  • Logan is accompained by a team of mutants that include Maverick, Kestrel, Sabretooth, Mastodon and Silver Fox (who he's in wuve with).
  • The relationship between Wolverine and Dog is similar to the antagonistic relationship between Sergeant Elias and Staff Sergeant Barnes in “Platoon” -- Wolverine, like Elias, displays a sympathetic view towards the locals during their search for the Adversary, while Victor, like Barnes, displays a more hostile view towards them.
  • Wolverine's relationship with Silver Fox drives a wedge between him and Victor -- which isn't helped by Silver Fox, a Native American who sympathizes with the Vietnamese and their struggles, is believed by Victor to be an agent of the NLF.
  • This all reaches it's head near the second act where Victor, having reached his breaking point, murders Silver Fox -- forcing Logan to kill him. (But he's still alive though shhhh)
  • The film ends with a downer ending, kẻ thù is dead, but at what cost? Logan, having become disillusioned with the United States, returns to Canada, but is eventually kidnapped and forced into the Adamantium Experiment as expected.
Magneto: Origins (2009)
  • NAZI HUNTING TIME BITCHESSSSSSSS.
  • I can't really do the original script justice, so read it for yourself. It's amazing.
  • We avoid X-Men: First Class, thank god -- sorry, folks, that movie is capital m MID, imo.
Wolverine II (2012)
  • Set after the events of Dark Phoenix, Logan is placed on temporarily leave from the X-Men after a mission gone array. The details are fuzzy, but it's implied he did something really, really bad and somewhat damaging to their reputation. Logan, miserable and drunk, as well as wanting to be as far away from North America -- travels to Japan.
  • Wolverine falls in love with a woman named Miriko, but after a brief sexual encounter, she breaks off from him, saying that their love is "forbidden" as she is betrothed to another man.
  • Whoops, that other man is an abusive shithead who Logan kills, albiet on accident -- placing Logan in war against the Clan Yashida of the Yakuza.
  • The film progresses from here as sort of a John Wick style story with superheroes. Logan battles the Blob, reimagined here as a sumo wrestler and strikes up a friendship with a Japanese mutant named Yukio.
  • Silver Samurai is still the main antagonist, but isn't a CGI monstrosity.
  • Mostly similar to the original movie -- just with my own few personal tweaks, this is probably my favorite Wolverine film.

I'll do a second part if there's enough demand. :)
 
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To Me, My Capeshit: The One Where 20th Century Fox Is Better With It's Comic Book IP's

X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2006)
  • The POD is that we avoid ... this mess. My god. On the plus side, though, Matthew Vaughn remains in the director's chair.
  • The films opens at Alkali Lake, now barren and dried up -- concurrent to this, we get news reports of strange phenomenons occuring all around the world, accompained by a bright lights in the sky -- we see prisons holding illegally detained mutants destroyed as well as cargo ships transporting mutants to various places overseas for slave labour capsized.
  • The cause of all of this is Jean Grey, who has now become the Phoenix, an alternate personality with a god complex -- taking matters into her own hands, causing destruction around the world. Having grown tired of constant destabalization on Earth -- she seeks the end of the Mutant vs Human conflict, the X-Men, and the Brotherhood -- all on her own terms, once and for all.
  • Magneto, like in the OTL film, is still like: "woaaahhh i can use this chick to do, like, bad shit" and recruits Emma Frost, a former lover of Xavier, to manipulate the unstable Jean.
  • Cyclops doesn't get done dirty here -- and has developed significantly since we've last seen him. The Danger Room is built by Cyclops due to his guilt over Jean's death and his feelings that the X-Men were too weak and too untrained, which resulted in her death -- he believes that the Danger Room can help make them into a stronger team.
  • Rogue and Iceman breakup -- in comes mister wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere (played by Channing Tatum).
  • The film ends on a bittersweet note -- Frost gets defeared, Magneto is MIA, Mystique is the new leader of the Brotherhood, and Scott is forced to kill the love of his life. On a more positive note, Xavier's dream is slowly beginning to be realized, with relations between mutants and humans improving.

Wolverine (2009)
  • prequel time baby.
  • Snyder's first superhero joint instead of Watchmen -- this is probably the one superhero IP he's the most suited for.
  • Apocalypse Now with superheroes, set in 1968 during the Vietnam War.
  • US Army Captain Logan Howlett is tasked by his superior officer, Colonel William Stryker, with hunting down and killing a mysterious mutant located in the jungles of Vietnam named kẻ thù. kẻ thù, like Col. Kurtz, uses an army of both native Vietnamese who worship him as a god as well as reanimated soldiers that wage warfare against both the US Army and the Viet Cong.
  • Logan is accompained by a team of mutants that include Maverick, Kestrel, Sabretooth, Mastodon and Silver Fox (who he's in wuve with).
  • The relationship between Wolverine and Dog is similar to the antagonistic relationship between Sergeant Elias and Staff Sergeant Barnes in “Platoon” -- Wolverine, like Elias, displays a sympathetic view towards the locals during their search for the Adversary, while Victor, like Barnes, displays a more hostile view towards them.
  • Wolverine's relationship with Silver Fox drives a wedge between him and Victor -- which isn't helped by Silver Fox, a Native American who sympathizes with the Vietnamese and their struggles, is believed by Victor to be an agent of the NLF.
  • This all reaches it's head near the second act where Victor, having reached his breaking point, murders Silver Fox -- forcing Logan to kill him. (But he's still alive though shhhh)
  • The film ends with a downer ending, kẻ thù is dead, but at what cost? Logan, having become disillusioned with the United States, returns to Canada, but is eventually kidnapped and forced into the Adamantium Experiment as expected.
Magneto: Origins (2009)
  • NAZI HUNTING TIME BITCHESSSSSSSS.
  • I can't really do the original script justice, so read it for yourself. It's amazing.
  • We avoid X-Men: First Class, thank god -- sorry, folks, that movie is capital m MID, imo.
Wolverine II (2012)
  • Set after the events of Dark Phoenix, Logan is placed on temporarily leave from the X-Men after a mission gone array. The details are fuzzy, but it's implied he did something really, really bad and somewhat damaging to their reputation. Logan, miserable and drunk, as well as wanting to be as far away from North America -- travels to Japan.
  • Wolverine falls in love with a woman named Miriko, but after a brief sexual encounter, she breaks off from him, saying that their love is "forbidden" as she is betrothed to another man.
  • Whoops, that other man is an abusive shithead who Logan kills, albiet on accident -- placing Logan in war against the Clan Yashida of the Yakuza.
  • The film progresses from here as sort of a John Wick style story with superheroes. Logan battles the Blob, reimagined here as a sumo wrestler and strikes up a friendship with a Japanese mutant named Yukio.
  • Silver Samurai is still the main antagonist, but isn't a CGI monstrosity.
  • Man, this plot is really similar to the original film, huh? Whoops.

I'll do a second part if there's enough demand. :)
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A quick little addendum to this thing:

X-Men: First Class (2011)
  • Hey, remember when I called First Class mid? Here's a non-mid version.
  • Yay! Matthew Vaughn finally gets to direct an X-Men Prequel Trilogy! :D
  • Set in 1991, with a teenage Scott Summers as our ... *Mister Plinkett voice* prota-go-nist -- with an X-Men team that consists of him, Jean Grey, Beast, Angel and Storm -- since Bobby is probably still swimming around in his father's ballsack around this time.
  • If Magneto's origin film is supposed to show the development and establishment of their friendship -- First Class is the breakdown of it.
  • The "false" antagonists for the movie are Bolivar Trask, The Sentinels and the Master Mold, with the Hellfire Club as their backers and the "real" big bads/wild cards who are eventually revealed at the end. Xavier has a Batman/Catwoman thing going on with Emma Frost here.
  • Poppy Bush is a member of the Hellfire Club. Is this relevant at ALL to the plot of the film? Fuck you, you decide. ;P
Any stuff you guys would like to see in this whole little Foxverse revamp that I'm doing? I'm all ears.
 
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