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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Mumby said:
I do love the central conceit that a load of businessmen and pseudo-fascists decided the best way to save America from Roosevelt's Socialism was to make an avowed anti-capitalist dictator.
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On a scale from 1 to 'nominating a Mason to be the nominee of the Anti-Masonic Party'...
 
Mumby said:
I do love the central conceit that a load of businessmen and pseudo-fascists decided the best way to save America from Roosevelt's Socialism was to make an avowed anti-capitalist dictator.
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It gets better when you realize he has a grudge against everyone he named and most of them were of the reluctant conservative supporters of the New Deal persuasion. A bunch of the Generals were actually running Alphabet Soup Agencies.

If anyone actually though the plot was a thing it may have been some folks in the American Legion but even then...
 
Since we're doing Kaiserreich, let's do a non-standard nation for that, NatPop Siam/Thailand
Kings of Siam:
1910-1925: Vajiravudh, Rama VI (House Chakri)
1925-1937: Prajadhipok, Rama VII (House Chakri)

King of Thailand:
1937-1938: Prajadhipok, Rama VII (House Chakri)
1938: Monarchy Abolished

Prime Ministers of the Kingdom of Siam:
1936: Siamese revolution of 1936, Constitutional Monarchy enacted
1936: Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena (People's Party)
1936: Yellow Dossier Affair, Phraya Phahon removed in Palace Coup
1936-1937: Plaek Phibunsongkhram (Free Thai Party)
1937: Kingdom renamed to Thailand

Prime Ministers of the Kingdom of Thailand
1937-1938: Plaek Phibunsongkhram (Free Thai Party)
1937: Phibun Assassinated, Sriyanond seizes power
1938: Phao Sriyanond (Free Thai Party)

Supreme Protectors of the Thai Nation:
1938-1958: Phao Sriyanond (Free Thai Party)
 
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New Kaiserreich list, this one of Bill C-7 failing and the Conservative-Social Credit coalition coming to power. Yes I don't get why the PCs are called that given how they came into existence IRL, but that's the way of the game files. :<

Prime Ministers of Canada, 1921-

1921-1925: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal)

1925-1930: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal-Progressive coalition)

1930-1935: Arthur Meighen (Conservative)
def. 1930: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal), John Edward Brownlee (United Farmers of Alberta), Thomas Crerar (Progressive)

1935: Richard Bedford Bennett (Conservative)

1935-1936: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal)
def. 1935: Richard Bedford Bennett (Conservative), John Horne Blackmore (Social Credit), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)

1936-1942: Richard Bedford Bennett (Conservative-Social Credit coalition)
def. 1936: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal), John Horne Blackmore (Social Credit), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)
def. 1941: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal), Solon Earl Low (Social Credit), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)

1942-1946: Richard Bedford Bennett (Progressive Conservative)

1946-1960: Ernest Charles Manning (Progressive Conservative)
def. 1946: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)
def. 1951: Louis St. Laurent (Liberal), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)
def. 1956: Louis St. Laurent (Liberal), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)

1960-1968: Douglas Harkness (Progressive Conservative)
def. 1961: Paul Joseph James Martin (Liberal), Adrien Arcand (United Empire)
def. 1966: Paul Joseph James Martin (Liberal)

1968-1974: Philip Arthur Gaglardi (Progressive Conservative)
def. 1969: Paul Joseph James Martin (Liberal)

1974-1979: John Parmenter Robarts (Liberal)
def. 1974: Philip Arthur Gaglardi (Progressive Conservative)

1979-1987: James Keegstra (Progressive Conservative)
def. 1979: John Parmenter Robarts (Liberal)
def. 1983: Jean-Luc Pépin (Liberal)

1987-1993: Victor Albert Stephens (Progressive Conservative)
def. 1988: Jean-Luc Pépin (Liberal)

1993-1995: Robert Fletcher Nixon (Liberal)
def. 1993: Victor Albert Stephens (Progressive Conservative)

1995-2002: Michael Deane Harris (Liberal)
def. 1997: Lynn Beyak (Progressive Conservative)

2002-2009: Conrad Black (Progressive Conservative)
def. 2002: Michael Deane Harris (Liberal)
def. 2007: Brian Pallister (Liberal)

2009-2013: Keith Martin (Liberal)
def. 2009: Conrad Black (Progressive Conservative)

2013-2017: Steven Blaney (Progressive Conservative)
def. 2013: Keith Martin (Liberal)

2017-: Jordan Peterson (Liberal)
def. 2017: Steven Blaney (Progressive Conservative)
 
Bonniecanuck said:
New Kaiserreich list, this one of Bill C-7 failing and the Conservative-Social Credit coalition coming to power. Yes I don't get why the PCs are called that given how they came into existence IRL, but that's the way of the game files. :<
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To be honest the current crop of developer for the mod seem to have a pleasing willingness to take a critical look at what has been long term canon and decide to radically change things, so if you brought this up on their twitter or their discord or something I'm sure someone might listen. Just look at how much Italy has changed.
 
So there was an assassination attempt on Chirac in 2002

1995-2002: Jacques Chirac (RPR)
1995 first round: Lionel Jospin (PS), Jacques Chirac (RPR), Édouard Balladur (UDF), Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN), Robert Hue (PCF)
1995 second round: Jacques Chirac (RPR), Lionel Jospin (PS)
2002 first round: Jacques Chirac (RPR), Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN), Lionel Jospin (PS), François Bayrou (UDF)
2002 second round: Jacques Chirac (RPR), Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN)
2002: Christian Poncelet (RPR)
2002-2007: Lionel Jospin (PS)
2002 first round: Lionel Jospin (PS), Alain Juppé (RPR), Édouard Balladur (UDF), Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN)
2002 second round: Lionel Jospin (PS), Alain Juppé (RPR)
2007-2012: François Bayrou (UDF)
2007 first round: François Bayrou (UDF), Bertrand Delanoë (PS), Alain Juppé (UMP), Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN)
2007 second round: François Bayrou (UDF), Bertrand Delanoë (PS)
2012-: Arno Klarsfeld (UMP)
2012 first round: Arno Klarsfeld (UMP), Martine Aubry (PS), François Bayrou (Ralliement Bayrou), Olivier Dartigolles (FG), Marine Le Pen (FN), Yannick Jadot (EELV)
2012 second round: Arno Klarsfeld (UMP), Martine Aubry (PS)
2017 first round: Arno Klarsfeld (UMP), Éric Besson (Europe Fort!), Olivier Dartigolles (FG), Anne Hidalgo (PS), Marine Le Pen (FN), Yannick Jadot (EELV)
2017 second round: Arno Klarsfeld (UMP), Éric Besson (EF!)
 
If UDF does not merge with RPR there won't be a UMP, as it was designed to once and for all heal the divide between the liberal-Giscardian branch of the right and the Gaullist-Chirac branch. And if I remember correctly it only appear to improve the chances of the centre-right in the 2002 legislative election.

I think you'd PoD is too late to split them up, to be honest.
 
Nanwe said:
If UDF does not merge with RPR there won't be a UMP, as it was designed to once and for all heal the divide between the liberal-Giscardian branch of the right and the Gaullist-Chirac branch. And if I remember correctly it only appear to improve the chances of the centre-right in the 2002 legislative election.

I think you'd PoD is too late to split them up, to be honest.
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According to this, RPR and UDF already had agreed on fielding a joint candidate and beginning merger talks by early 2001 and the UMP was formally agreed upon months before the assassination attempt on Chirac took place.
 
Don't Drink the Water

Presidents of the Confederates States of America
1861: William L. Yancey / none (Independent --- Fire-Eater) [As President of Prov. Congress]
1861-1862: John A. Quitman / Alexander H. Stephens (Independent --- Fire-Eater / Richmond Consensus) [Provisional]
1862-1866: George W. Randolph / Louis T. Wigfall (Independent --- Richmond Consensus)
1861: John A. Quitman / Leonidas Polk (Independent --- Fire-Eater)
1866-1867: Louis T. Wigfall / vacant (Independent --- New Orleans Consensus)
1867-1868: Leonidas Polk / vacant, Milledge L. Bonham (Military / Independent --- Fire-Eater)
1867: Cancelled
1868: John C. Breckenridge / none (Independent --- Atlanta Consensus) [As Disputed Acting President]

Between 1850 and 1861 when the balloon finally came up there was pretty regular talk in the states of the future confederacy. And then the leading man died after being one of many prominant Democratic politicans to die of National Hotel Disease. The other leading candidate was unavailable when the Confederacy launched its revolt because Virginia dragged its feet. And so it went to Jefferson Davis. Here, Quitman doesn't get sick and is still alive to be acclaimed in Montgomery.

Also decided for the hell of it to play around with a few options in the Confederacy, there was talk about replacing Davis in the elections that would take place at the end of 1861 especially since his Constitutional Democratic/Whig-Constitutional Unionist Ticket with Stephens was already dysfunctional to the point of uselessness. It was decided not to but Davis was also a supposed 'Moderate' (Ha!) and its easy to imagine that Quitman, a fire-eating hardliner of the sort who had actually partaken in Filibustering in Latin America and wanted to create a Slaver empire marching south and important more slaves from Africa might have been a bit much.

At which point one gets Randolph, the utter failure of a man when put into action but who was the dreamed for leader of a United South for years nearly entirely because he was Jefferson's grandson and the Southern dreams of the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions that all nullification and secession based itself on as if it were the Federalist Papers. But favorite son of the south or no, he can't keep things going.

For several reasons the war can drag on longer. No Davis means no AS Johnson being given a front from El Paso to the Alleghenies. New Orleans isn't stripped of troops and left nearly completely exposed. Forts Henry and Donaldson don't just open up the Mississippi valley all the way down to Vicksburg at once. In 1862 Napoleon III offers diplomatic recognition to the Confederacy, something he was preparing to do when the largest City in the CSA was taken by David Farragut, causing a world of trouble for Lincoln, but not the full British Intervention that was hoped for, troubles for the blockade though helps Dixie considerably in addition to their position in the West being stronger. 1864 sees Lincoln win another term as Memphis is taken by the new young hero of the West who ousts Halleck and Pope that is General McPherson and the birthplace of the Confederacy is taken by William F. "Baldy" Smith after the engineer-General manages an impressive siege in terrible conditions. 1865 sees the war start to permanently turn against the Confederacy the year ending with Richmond besieged by Winfield Scott Hancock to its north, the Spring of the next year sees the lightweight Randolph resign as Richmond is abandoned with Lee escaping though Petersburg into North Carolina.

His Vice President, Louis T. Wigfall is by temperment a Fire-Eating man, but with the Confederacy being worn down and the war in the East Lost, his new administration is the Richmond Consensus taking the few steps needed for it to become radicalized anyway. The year ends with Lee Dead of a Heart Attack, and the position being massively untenable. The French are pulling out of their New World adventures in Mexico and leaving the Confederacy high and dry. US Grant, brought back to command by McPherson has landed troops in Brownsville Texas and is moving up the long coast of the Lone Star state. Dan Sickles has landed a force in Mobile. Hancock is preparing to march on Atlanta, while McPherson intends to move south on New Orleans itself attached to the Army of WT Sherman. When the Governor of Georgia declares his state has left the Confederacy and intends to negotiate with Lincoln for a separate peace rather then see Savannah and Atlanta destroyed under the guns of the Army of the Potomac, the whole house of cards collapses. The Peace Camp in New Orleans is too loud and the Fire-Eaters step in. The commander of the Army of East Tennessee thus finds himself elevated to the Presidency of the Confederacy, and while the Georgia rebellion is put down swiftly, the bells have begun to toll for the Confederacy. Polk may have been the cousin of an impressive president, but he is not the executive needed at the hour.

The election of 1867 is cancelled. What is left of the Confederate Congress, with troops in the hall simply acclaim Polk emergency powers until the end of the war. Dissent is enough though that the former actors of the congressional establishment exert some influence with John C. Breckenridge being made Secretary for War. For a time , the new regime makes some progress. Grant is bogged down attempting a wide siege of Galveston. Baton Rouge is another tough nut to crack and the defenses of Atlanta are strong. But what is left can barely be called a country. Attempts at partisan warfare, while dramatic do little but spill more needless blood. Slavery has been abolished in the Union and there is no way it can be functionally reinstated in the states that have already returned to the Union or are occupied by Federal troops. What is left of the Confederacy lacks industry, lacks connections to the outside world and lacks men. Desertion in the Confederate armies is now endemic, few troops from Tennessee or Virginia are to be found anywhere, with North Carolinians about to become just as sparce. And so the Secretary of War turns against the President, and declares himself the chief, supported as he can be by those officals who have scattered themselves from New Orleans, and under the protection of James Longstreet seeks an immediate ceasefire with the stated goal of negotiated reentry into the Union. Polk can scream and holler all he wants but he cant defeat them. But Lincoln is also in such a strong position at this point that he need not negotiate at all. A brief attempt is made, in the name of stopping bloodshed, but the move must be unconditional, Breckenridge wont stand for it, but then, he doesn't have anything to back it up anymore either. And neither does Polk, the cracking of the Confederacy, preformed by itself with the Atlanta Declaration is too much for the tired men who have fought these many long years. By 1868 the Confederacy is only a Confederacy of the mind, after Lincoln and McPherson quietly look the other way as Polk and many of his cadre find their way to Havana and from there, awkward and unrecognized exile for more then a decade in Madrid, Paris and Rio de Janero.
 
Gordian said:
According to this, RPR and UDF already had agreed on fielding a joint candidate and beginning merger talks by early 2001 and the UMP was formally agreed upon months before the assassination attempt on Chirac took place.
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Yes, and that's precisely why it's not very realistic to continue having UDF run separately from a RPR/UMP. OTL there was a rump UDF headed by Bayrou than became the Modem, but Balladur and other heavyweights simply joined the main party - I'm just saying it's not super realistic.

Also, without Chirac's charisma, perhaps the joint lists for the legislative election would have just remained that - no party apparatus behind it. Although that's just more of a personal impression.
 
Prime Ministers of New Zealand
1999-2005: Helen Clark (Labour)
1999 (Coalition with Alliance, C&S with Greens) def: Jenny Shipley (National), Jim Anderton (Alliance), Richard Prebble (ACT), Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons (Greens), Winston Peters (NZ First), Peter Dunne (United)
2002 (Coalition with Progressive, C&S with United Future and Greens) def: Bill English (National), Winston Peters (NZ First), Richard Prebble (ACT), Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons (Greens), Jim Anderton (Progressive), Peter Dunne (United Future), Laila Harre (Alliance)
2005-2007: Don Brash (National)
2005 (C&S with NZ First, Maori and United Future) def: Helen Clark (Labour), Winston Peters (NZ First), Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons (Greens), Jim Anderton (Progressive), Tariana Turia and Willie Jackson (Maori), Peter Dunne (United Future)
2007-2008: John Key (National)
2008-2012: Michael Cullen (Labour)
2008 (C&S with Greens) def: John Key (National), Jeanette Fitzsimons and Nandor Tanczos (Greens), Tariana Turia and Te Ururoa Flavell (Maori), Jim Anderton (Progressive), Willie Jackson (Mana Motuhake), Peter Dunne (United Future)
2011 (C&S with Progressive and Greens) def: Bill English (National), Stephnie de Ruyter and Willie Jackson (Progressive), Nandor Tanczos and Catherine Delahunty (Greens), Tariana Turia and Te Ururoa Flavell (Maori), Peter Dunne (United Future)
2012-2014: David Cunliffe (Labour)
2014-2016: John Banks (National)
2014 (C&S with NZ Future and Kiwi) def: David Cunliffe (Labour), Judy Turner and Winston Peters (NZ Future), Megan Woods and Hone Harawira (Progressive), Catherine Delahunty and David Clendon (Greens), Colin Craig (Kiwi)
2016-present: Bill English (National)
2017 (C&S with Liberals, NZ Future and Kiwi) def: Grant Robertson (Labour), Chloe Swarbrick (Liberals), Denise Lee and Winston Peters (NZ Future), Megan Woods and Raf Manji (Progressive), Garth McVicar (Kiwi)

It has been forgotten in the years since 2002, but the performance of Jim Anderton's Progressive Coalition in that election was nothing less than a miracle. The left-wing Alliance, hamstrung by years of authoritarian rule by Anderton, insufficient policy differentiation from their coalition partners, and a the revolt of the organisational wing of the party over Afghanistan, had been wallowing in the lower reaches of the polls for most of the term. In 2002, the breach became open, and Anderton counted his lucky stars that his party-hopping ban had been defeated the previous year, as his supporters in caucus now left the Alliance and formed the new eponymous party, which included Anderton's personal fans and the Democrats for Social Credit. And a little over half of the already minuscule Alliance support. The rest of the Alliance, including Maori rights party Mana Motuhake, continued under figures such as Laila Harre, Willie Jackson and Matt McCarten, and the victory of Harre in the Waitakere electorate got the first two into Parliament. This was in contrast to Anderton and United Future's Peter Dunne, whose televised debate performances won over quite a few swing voters (largely those who wanted to give Labour a coalition partner, in the case of Anderton, while Dunne appealed to Christians and to people who genuinely describe themselves as "sensible". Helen Clark's Labour government worked closely with both men over the next term.

This was a term of political transformation in NZ: Dunne's Christian MPs ripped his liberal party to shreds and caused constant dissension within Government; ACT voters, terrified by the paltry vote of the National Party in 2002, returned home, leaving Prebble et al up a creek (they elected a new leader in tough-on-crime Rodney Hide, but National's turn to social conservatism under Brash crowded him out of the field); and most importantly, the Foreshore and Seabed crisis led to a seemingly irreparable breach between Maori and the Labour Party. When Labour Minister Tariana Turia defected to start her own party to fight for Maori issues, the introspective remnants of the Alliance decided to get involved on the ground floor. Driven by Mana Motuhake members, the Alliance participated in the early stages of the Maori Party (Matt McCarten acted as Turia's campaign manager during her by-election campaign) and merged with them in advance of the general election.

With the Greens and Anderton's Progressives eating into left-wing support and the Maori Party leeching at their Maori electorates, it came as a worry to Labour when both Dunne and Winston Peters announced that they would support the party with the largest vote. In the event, it was a close-run thing, but Don Brash entered office with the support of both self-described centrist parties, and - in a surprise to the Alliance contingent - the Maori Party. Seeing that a National Government was inevitable due to the arithmetic, and desiring to moderate Brash's racist stances, Turia put a forceful case for entering the tent. But even before corruption scandals and plummeting polls drove John Key to roll Brash from office, Willie Jackson and Hone Harawira had led the left of the Maori-Alliance alliance out as a reconstituted Mana Motuhake. Left with an evenly split house, Key was a lame-duck PM with no chance of passing much in the way of law, so all the public saw of him was his smarminess. It was therefore inevitable that the fondly-remembered Clark's right-hand-man (who had defeated Steve Maharey to become Leader by quite a margin) took Labour back into office after just a single term, the first time this had ever happened.

With NZ First out of Parliament, having borne their share of the brunt of the electorate's reaction against an unpopular government, 2008 was Parliament's farewell to the last minor party which had contested the 1993 election. And with the diminishing left-of-Labour vote now sewn up by the Progressive Coalition and Mana Motuhake, the Greens were steadily returning to their hippy-liberal roots of earlier generations, epitomised by new co-Leader Nandor Tanczos. These leftist parties, though, were only in Parliament thanks to the electorate coat-tail rule, and negotiations resulted in Mana Motuhake's affiliation to the Coalition, as long as the still-rankling figure of Anderton left the leadership. He was followed by Green-style gender-balanced co-Leaders: Willie Jackson of Mana Motuhake and Stephnie de Ruyter of the Democrats for Social Credit.

The new party was constructive, racially realistic, socialist and, some would say, a little socially conservative, especially the stances on drugs and workfare. However, these policies were the ones which appealed to former Winston voters, and thereby denied him his attempt at re-entering Parliament in 2011. Driven to desperation, Peters agreed to merge with Peter Dunne's party, which had already merged with every other minor party over the previous decade and split almost as often. Peters' condition, much like Mana Motuhake's, was that Dunne (whom he thought a weak dullard) wouldn't be leader of the merged party, and a compromise was reached whereby a former Christian Dunnite MP would be Winston's back-seat co-leader. The new NZ Future party romped into Parliament thanks to the implosion of Labour support since David Cunliffe's ill-judged leadership coup. As in 2005, the National Party had tired of moderate technocrats and selected as Leader former Auckland Mayor John Banks, who had voted against the legalisation of homosexuality in his first stint as an MP.

In 2016, it came out that Banks had attempted to force a former partner to take drugs that would make her miscarry, and the scandal led to Bill English taking over for his third tenure as National leader. He was re-elected in 2017, although this time, the coalition with the Christian 'Kiwi Party' (who are only kept alive thanks to an electorate deal in East Coast Bays) and NZ Future has had to be bolstered by the metropolitan Liberal Party of former Auckland Mayor Chloe Swarbrick, and thus Government policy seems to have been moderated somewhat. The Liberals took so many votes from the Greens that the latter have dropped out of Parliament, leaving the Progressives sitting alone with Labour in Opposition. However, Swarbrick's misuse of her role as Kingmaker has drawn criticism and an immediate polling downfall.

Jim Anderton passed away in early 2018, and he was proud to have left behind a Progressive Coalition that united Maori interests with radical trade unions, a few lefty Christian Democrats, and a load of Social Credit oddballs. He was even happier to have seen the end of the Greens.
 
2001-2009: VP Al Gore/Senator Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2000 def. Governor George W. Bush/Representative John Kasich (Republican)
2004 def. General Colin Powell/Former Governor Frank Keating (Republican), Historian Howard Zinn/Activist Gloria La Riva (Peace Coalition)
2009-2017: Governor Meg Whitman/Senator John Thune (Republican)
2008 def. VP Joe Lieberman/Senator Evan Bayh (Democratic), Former Senator Mike Gravel/Activist Cindy Sheehan (Independent Democratic-Peace Coalition)
2012 def. Senator Hillary Clinton/Former Governor Bill Richardson (Democratic), Senator Lindsey Graham/Former Secretary of the Navy Jim Webb (Freedom)
2017-: General Stanley McChrystal/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Democratic)
def. Senator Rand Paul/Governor Kelly Ayotte (Republican)

I'll go back and add more extensive notes later, but briefly:
Al Gore's response to 9/11 is remarkably similar to Bush's OTL - troops sent into wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that look more and more like quagmires with every casualty report, curtailed civil liberties on the home front sold to the public as security measures. Events proceed from there.
 
Blink And You'll Miss It

1919-1921: Friedrich Ebert (Social Democratic)
1919 def. Arthur von Posadowsky-Wehner (German National Peoples')
1921-1923: Erich Ludendorff (Independent/Military - Government of Peoples' Defiance)
1923-0000: Oliver Russell, 2nd Baron Ampthill / Ferdinand Foch (Entente Military Administration)

The idea here is that the Soviets actually defeat the Poles in 1920, and believing that Germany is ripe for revolution just carry on. The Freikorps, technically disbanded since the Kapp Putsch but simply underground and remodelled as such groups as Organisation Consul, see their chance and are able to halt the Soviets in the 'Miracle on the Oder'. The Freikorps, joined by the regular Army successfully push the Soviets out of much of Poland (though not all of it, and the Baltic states are annexed to the newborn USSR). The pre-war German border is restored and a compliant Polish puppet state established. The Freikorps, newly popular with the German masses for halting a foreign invasion and seemingly proving all the stab in the back myths correct, carry out another attempted coup. This time with the explicit assistance of the Army and with much greater popular support. Ludendorff is installed as Reichsprasident, and immediately sweeps away the Weimar Constitution. Talk of restoring the Kaiser or some other Hohenzollern is put on the backburner as Ludendorff pursues his higher goal of relaunching the Great War, in a 'Battle of Defiance'. Britain and France do not take kindly to this and swiftly react to Ludendorff's remilitarisation of the Rhineland and breakneck rebuilding of the military. Germany now languishes under a different kind of military dictatorship while Paris and London talk about what to do with such a troublesome country. Prime Ministers Henry Page Croft and Raymond Poincare have much to discuss.
 
The US presidential list from WIAF:

1913-1921: Woodrow Wilson
1921-1926: Warren G. Harding
1926-1933: Nicholas Murray Butler
1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1945-1949: Paul V. McNutt
1949-1957: Leverett Saltonstall
 
Japhy said:
Don't Drink the Water

Between 1850 and 1861 when the balloon finally came up there was pretty regular talk in the states of the future confederacy. And then the leading man died after being one of many prominant Democratic politicans to die of National Hotel Disease. The other leading candidate was unavailable when the Confederacy launched its revolt because Virginia dragged its feet. And so it went to Jefferson Davis. Here, Quitman doesn't get sick and is still alive to be acclaimed in Montgomery.
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Now that's what I call nominative determinism.

Fascinating lists all around everyone, sorry I don't have more detailed feedback.
 
By the way that list is not carved in stone--we're considering the option of FDR's 1944 running mate instead being William O. Douglass, but I'm assuming he would be too progressive for the taste of party bosses.
 
Mumby said:
Blink And You'll Miss It

1919-1921: Friedrich Ebert (Social Democratic)
1919 def. Arthur von Posadowsky-Wehner (German National Peoples')
1921-1923: Erich Ludendorff (Independent/Military - Government of Peoples' Defiance)
1923-0000: Oliver Russell, 2nd Baron Ampthill / Ferdinand Foch (Entente Military Administration)

The idea here is that the Soviets actually defeat the Poles in 1920, and believing that Germany is ripe for revolution just carry on. The Freikorps, technically disbanded since the Kapp Putsch but simply underground and remodelled as such groups as Organisation Consul, see their chance and are able to halt the Soviets in the 'Miracle on the Oder'. The Freikorps, joined by the regular Army successfully push the Soviets out of much of Poland (though not all of it, and the Baltic states are annexed to the newborn USSR). The pre-war German border is restored and a compliant Polish puppet state established. The Freikorps, newly popular with the German masses for halting a foreign invasion and seemingly proving all the stab in the back myths correct, carry out another attempted coup. This time with the explicit assistance of the Army and with much greater popular support. Ludendorff is installed as Reichsprasident, and immediately sweeps away the Weimar Constitution. Talk of restoring the Kaiser or some other Hohenzollern is put on the backburner as Ludendorff pursues his higher goal of relaunching the Great War, in a 'Battle of Defiance'. Britain and France do not take kindly to this and swiftly react to Ludendorff's remilitarisation of the Rhineland and breakneck rebuilding of the military. Germany now languishes under a different kind of military dictatorship while Paris and London talk about what to do with such a troublesome country. Prime Ministers Henry Page Croft and Raymond Poincare have much to discuss.
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A couple of companion lists for this.

1916-1922: David Lloyd George (National Liberal)
1918 (Coalition Coupon with Conservatives and NDLP) def. Eamon de Valera (Sinn Fein), William Adamson (Labour), H.H. Asquith (Liberal), John Dillon (Irish Parliamentary)
1922-1923: Henry Page Croft (Conservative leading War Government with National Liberals and the British Workers' League)
1923-0000: Henry Page Croft (Conservative)
1923 (Coalition Coupon with National Liberals and BWL) def. J.R. Clynes (Labour), Albert Inkpin (Communist), H.H. Asquith (Liberal)
 
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