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The Trump TL is BACK BOYSSSSS
Thank you! I’ll most likely continue building the world.This is really good.
I love the choices for pm and the little glimpses into the rest of the world
No 4chan was always racist - they used to make George Zimmermann memes in 2012 and used to make Swastika groupings with their characters on Habbo back in the mid 2000s. I don't know why this "4chan was proto Chapo Trap House" thing exists when the evidence points to the contrary. There were more Libertarians back in the day but they too weren't pro-multicultural bleeding hearts.In my research while doing the Trump TL, I just discovered an interesting factoid about 4Chan being ... leftist? Once upon a time?
Sometime in the mid-to-late 2000s, 4chan was predominantly comprised of Socdems, Hacktivists, and Libertarians (even if these loose groups harbored self-declared "ironic racists" in them) IIRC 4chan went originally primarily to Obama OTL (in 2008), with some members (mainly hacktivists/script kiddies whatever), actually helping Obama via semi-legal means - hell even the US Pirate Party got in on it - It was just after people who said they were part of Anonymous - A group that still remains pretty left-wing, and one of the main reasons Scientology is sorta-kinda dead OTL - the Lulzsec group, Wikileaks people, Assange, etc. and other's began to be arrested that 4chan began taking a more explicitly racist turn, with people attempting to find a reason for Obama's supposed "backstabbing" that being the moment when the "ironic bigotry" abruptly stopped being ironic.
In my research while doing the Trump TL, I just discovered an interesting factoid about 4Chan being ... leftist? Once upon a time?
Sometime in the mid-to-late 2000s, 4chan was predominantly comprised of Socdems, Hacktivists, and Libertarians (even if these loose groups harbored self-declared "ironic racists" in them) IIRC 4chan went originally primarily to Obama OTL (in 2008), with some members (mainly hacktivists/script kiddies whatever), actually helping Obama via semi-legal means - hell even the US Pirate Party got in on it - It was just after people who said they were part of Anonymous - A group that still remains pretty left-wing, and one of the main reasons Scientology is sorta-kinda dead OTL - the Lulzsec group, Wikileaks people, Assange, etc. and other's began to be arrested that 4chan began taking a more explicitly racist turn, with people attempting to find a reason for Obama's supposed "backstabbing" that being the moment when the "ironic bigotry" abruptly stopped being ironic.
I’m too young to have been a part of 4chan during the Bush years, but in the early 2010s the politics of 4chan was just being contrarian for the sake of it, and sticking to the opposite of whatever the dominant thought on a subject may be, as well as stanning some random people.I was on 4Chan at the time, being a weird teenager, and there was no particularly "socdem" or "pro-Obama" attitude - it was just angry techno-libertarianism, which happened to have common ground with the left over stuff like Scientology or OWS or Wikileaks or the Arab Spring.
The main difference from today's imageboards is that the racism was casual, rather than programmatic and linked to actual offline political movements. Gamergate was probably the moment the bigotry became centralrather thanin addition to a topic for memes and jokes.
I feel old explaining this!
I was on 4Chan at the time, being a weird teenager, and there was no particularly "socdem" or "pro-Obama" attitude - it was just angry techno-libertarianism, which happened to have common ground with the left over stuff like Scientology or OWS or Wikileaks or the Arab Spring.
The main difference from today's imageboards is that the racism was casual, rather than programmatic and linked to actual offline political movements. Gamergate was probably the moment the bigotry became centralrather thanin addition to a topic for memes and jokes.
I feel old explaining this!
Mate the whole reason the /pol/ board was made was because people kept posting Stormfront stuff in the /new/ (news) board. Do you think that "Politically Incorrect" meant supporting Occupy Wall Street or do you think it meant supporting Ron Paul because he was supposedly going after ZOG?I’m too young to have been a part of 4chan during the Bush years, but in the early 2010s the politics of 4chan was just being contrarian for the sake of it, and sticking to the opposite of whatever the dominant thought on a subject may be, as well as stanning some random people.
smh making a list playing off the Davyd Arakhamiya quote and not including Davyd ArakhamiyaPresidents of Ukraine
I’m disappointed in your lack of the Social Movement, you don’t know about everyone’s Socialist Feminist, Trotskyist movement/party.Presidents of Ukraine
fuck, good point. I'll swap him with someone elsesmh making a list playing off the Davyd Arakhamiya quote and not including Davyd Arakhamiya
Still, it's very rare to see Ukraine lists and I adore it a lot
The working Italian-American is suffering because Attorney General Eric Holder is persecuting his civil right’s league.
Inspired by TastySpam's Trump TL on alternatehistory.com
March 2007: Democratic Presidential Frontrunner Hillary Clinton is murdered by in her Chappaqua home by a mentally ill-assassin who had delusions of the Senator running a "Global Pedophile Ring", Democratic Presidential Primary is blown wide-open.
April 2007: Former Clinton Campaign Staffers begin sign-up en-masse for work at the Trump Organization.
June 2007: New York Billionaire Donald Trump announces a run for the Democratic Presidential Nomination.
"We spent $2 trillion in Iraq, $2 trillion. We lost thousands of lives, thousands in Iraq. We have wounded soldiers, who I love, I love — they’re great — all over the place, thousands and thousands of wounded soldiers. President Bush, we should give him a one-way ticket to the Hague. Lock him up! Lock him up!"
- Donald Trump; June 15, 2007
July 2007: Rapper Kanye West endorses Trump as President.
"I was right in 2005, and I am right once more. George Bush doesn't care about Black People. New Orleans was once a beautiful city filled with our people, but we were left like dogs to die in New Orleans by President Bush and his Haliburton puppets. Trump has the chance at being the best President for Black people since Lincoln."
- Kanye West, July 17, 2007.
September 2007: Reverend Jesse Jackson endorses Trump for the Presidential Nomination, claming that he is the man to lead the new "Rainbow Coalition."
"Very tremendous, thank you, Reverend. And yes, I agree. We have a tremendous Rainbow Coalition here. I am a big fan of the African-Americans. And also the Hispanics, the Asians, the Indians, both the dot and feather Indians. And let's not forget the gays. I am the pro-gay candidate, the only one who supports the gay marriage. All the other candidates, they won't support the gays. But I will. The fake news and other haters call me too radical. But do you know who else was radical? Jesus."
- Donald Trump; September 22, 2007
Lehman Brothers declares Bankruptcy.
Trump says that he will pursue a Universal Healthcare bill as President --- leading to other Democratic candidates become quick to label him as the next "George McGovern".
October 2007: Trump announces that he will run as an Independent on a "Progressive Ticket", if he is treated unfairly by the DNC in primaries and pushes for the DNC to run a "fair election" for him.
November 2007: Trump says he will repeal NAFTA if elected President at an AFL-CIO forum. Mitt Romney surges in the polls, Republicans view Romney as their best possible foil against Trump.
December 2007: Trump criticizes Wall Street in a bizarre speech to a crowd of supporters in Queens, New York.
"When Wall Street sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing greed. They’re bringing poverty. They’re thieves. And some, I assume, are good people."
- Donald Trump; December 14, 2007
Polls show that Donald Trump and Barack Obama are deadlocked among African-American voters.
January 2008: Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney Neck-And-Neck in Iowa Caucuses. Trump wins Iowan caucus, Obama in second, Bayh in third, Edwards in fourth.
Trump wins in a landslide at New Hampshire Primary.
"Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up!"
- Chant Referring to George W. Bush at Trump Victory Parties in New Hampshire.
Romney wins in New Hampshire, McCain coming in second.
While still distrusted by most of the Democratic Establishment, The DNC begin to look into Obama being their only hope in beating Donald Trump. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid endorses Senator Obama.
"Look, Harry Reid is an old loser. He's fighting me because you know, he's supporting Mitt Romney. You know, they have that connection. Read about their church! I love them, but they're wacky. Very wacky people. He can't even beat Mitch McConnell, who is a literal turtle, seriously, look at his face!"
- Donald Trump; January 12, 2008
June 2008: Trump becomes Presumptive Nominee after a large majority of wins in the primaries. Trump makes the decision of nominating John Edwards as his running mate.
"Come here, John, yeah, he's a great guy. A tough as nails lawyer. Straight as an arrow. Fights for all Americans. Great family man, just like me. We'd make a great ticket, don't you think? We have the look. He talks about two Americas - he's right! There's us, the working-class, the common folk of America. And then there's bankers. Wall Street guys who work at places...like Bain Capital. Nasty dudes! And they wrecked the economy and now you're all paying for it. We're not going to have it. Not me, not John. Come here John!"
- Donald Trump; June 7, 2008
Gallup Poll shows Mitt Romney begins to lead Trump by 4 points.
July 2008: Fox News breaks a story that alleges a sexual encounter between Senator John Edwards and former campaign worker Rielle Hunter had occurred at the Beverly Hills Hotel in California and had fathered a child.
"This is fake news. Fox News is fake news. Right-wing fake news that is trying to take down John, a good family man. I mean, his wife has cancer, you think he'd really be screwing around? Come back to me when you get a real source."
- Donald Trump; July 27, 2008
Edwards, however, admits to the affair after a confrontation by the Washington Post. Various Democrats begin to demand for Edwards to step down from the ticket, Trump refuses.
Russia invades Georgia --- Trump refuses to condemn.
August 2008: Mitt Romney selects Tom Ridge as Vice President; Claiming that Ridge's "National Security credentials will help keep America safe under a Romney Administration.
John Edwards resigns from the Democratic Ticket nearly two days before the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver. The Trump Campaign is put into a scramble as it nominates Senator Barack Obama one day prior to the convention.
"What frauds, let me tell you, what frauds. The Republicans say "we can't pay for children's healthcare, what about the debt?" And then the Republicans toss away trillions bombing Iraqis, Afghan children, whoever. And then we're even more in debt, and they go 'wow, we're in debt. Looks like we need to cut Social Security and Medicare.' It's sick and wrong. Just the greatest scam on the American people in history ever. Now Mitt Romney's Wall Street are messing up the economy, and let me tell you, you meet so many, good normal homeowners sinking. And they're going to use the debt they created again to say we can't help these tremendous people. It's all a scheme, people. And we're not falling for it again."
- An excerpt of Donald Trump Acceptance Speech at the 2008 Democratic National Convention; August 25th, 2008.
September 2008: Republican National Convention to convene in Minnesota.
"Trump and Obama won't keep America safe. They'll take our troops out from Iraq, out from Afghanistan, out from Saudi Arabia. And instead of fighting them in Fallujah, we'll be fighting hem in Philadelphia."
- An excerpt of Tom Ridge's speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention; September 2, 2008
"My friends, Donald Trump has never ever respected what makes America great. Capitalism, free enterprise, and our military strength. While he was avoiding military service by claiming bone spurs, I was flying aerial combat missions in Vietnam. So hear it directly from me America, that a Trump-Obama administration would be a green light to the dictators of terrorists of the world that it's open season on America."
- An excerpt of Senator John McCain's speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention; September 3, 2008
"Ultimately, this election is a struggle for America's soul. One on hand, we have free enterprise, our Judeo-Christian values, our military prowess, and the values that have made America strong from its founding. On the other side, we have demagogic left-wing rhetoric that leads directly to poverty and terror. If you like what you see in America, then a Trump-Obama ticket will essentially be a mulligan for our nation."
- An excerpt of Mitt Romney's Acceptance Speech; September 4, 2008
United States Government Nationalizes Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac as Financial Crisis Worsens.
Lehrman Brothers file for bankruptcy.
United States Treasury Department Requests $700 Billion Bailout from Congress.
"Donald, I don't want to be cruel, but your business acumen just isn't that good. You say you're going to balance the national budget, but you've gone bankrupt four times. How can you balance America's budget when you can't even balance the budget for a hotel?"
- Excerpt(s) from Mitt Romney during the first 2008 Presidential Debate; September 26, 2008
"Look, Mitt, we're both businessmen. But first, I am very bigly more successful. I made my billions creating thousands of jobs, great businesses, luxurious hotels, exciting casinos, beautiful golf clubs, fantastic resorts, great products. But Mitt - he made his millions, millions by the way, way less than my billions, and he made this pittance by buying up great, beautiful companies, and then firing people. Coming in all nasty and sick and getting his kicks from firing people, ending careers, wrecking beautiful families. If you're worried about paying rent, getting foreclosed on, losing your job, only one of us here made money by helping people like you, believe me, okay?"
- Excerpt(s) from Donald Trump during the first 2008 Presidential Debate; September 26, 2008
"Donald. You're not going to insult your way to the Presidency."
- Mitt Romney; September 26, 2008.
"Mitt. I'm polling at 42 and you're at 38. So, I'd say? I'm doing better."
- Donald Trump; September 26, 2008.
October 2008: Congress passes $700 Billion Bailout for Wall Street.
On October 6th, The Wall Street Journal publishes an article that includes audio of Donald Trump with Billy Bush of Access Hollywood. In the never-before-seen clips, Trump describes how he would attempt to seduce women, including kissing them and grabbing them by “the pussy.”
"Look, I don't recognize that voice. I don't remember saying any of these nasty, horrible things. I've always been a women's rights advocate. Always, believe. Look, I'm not saying anyone faked the tape. But there is an organization out there. And they faked Iraqi WMDs. They torture innocent people across the world in black-sites. Just saying again, it wouldn't be very hard for them to fake a video, if they wanted to. After all, read the history! The deep state, the CIA. Very nasty people, JFK tried to stand up to them and look what happened to our boy JFK. If you can peddle crack to the blacks, you can definitely fake a tape. Sick and wrong lies!"
- Donald Trump; October 9, 2008
Half a dozen Democratic senators call on Donald Trump to quit race, Democrats attempt to scramble and get Trump off the ticket.
Hackers from the anonymous imageboard website '4Chan' leaks tape of Mitt Romney disparaging Americans too poor to pay income taxes.