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Alternate Wikibox Thread


Anyone here read "Being Donald Trump" on the old country?

REPORT: Vice President Gore seen panicking, swearing loudly at residence - National Enquirer, 1999

"Sources in the White House claim a 'noticeable and dramatic change' in the attitude of the vice president, describing him as uncharacteristically sarcastic, aggressive and, most worryingly, outwardly hostile to certain individuals in congress, such as Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert. It is almost as if his body is being occupied by a completely different person." - excerpt from New York Times article, 1999

"Maybe you should start shaving, Al."
"Maybe you should start keeping it in your pants, Bill."

- overheard conversation in the Oval Office, 1999

"And let me tell you, how else were the authorities clued in that these two boys were about to perpetrate a mass shooting?! Make no mistake, my friends, the Colorado police were tipped off by a rouge element in our government! There's no doubt!" - conspiracy theorist Alex Jones discussing the arrests of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, 1999

"NAFTA WAS A MISTAKE!": Gore visits Seattle WTO protests in solidarity - Washington Post, 1999

On gays and lesbians, Gore proclaims "Love thy neighbour as thyself, and trans rights!" during California tour - BBC News, 1999

The Green Mountain Socialist? A rundown on Bernie Sanders, Gore's bizarre pick for running mate - celebnewz.com, 2000

"Bernie got more roll call amendments passed than any other congressman since 1995, all while Congress was under a Republican majority. We have absolute faith in his ability to look beyond partisanship and implement commonsense reform for all Americans." - Gore, suspiciously lucid, 2000

Gore calls Bush running mate Dick Cheney "the most evil man in America" - Fox News, 2000

Clinton, Gore meet with Louis Freeh and George Tenet to discuss "matters of national security" - CNN, 2000

Members of Al-Qaeda terrorist cell apprehended at San Diego Flight School - Fox News, 2001

"Well, uh, shit, Al, I didn't expect any of this."
"Consider it a parting gift, Bill, so they'll forget about the impeachment and you can leave the White House on a high note."
"I'm still not sure how you knew about the whole--"
"Water under the bridge, Bill, water under the bridge. Just remember what I said."
"Hillary's a real class act, Al, I'm not sure I can--"
"Convincing her not to run for office is your problem, Bill, mine is kicking the asses of Halliburton's Board of Directors."

- private conversation in the Oval Office, 2001
In inaugural address, Gore warns of looming economic recession and climate crises "unless we act NOW" - BBC News, 2001
Cabinet of "Al Gore", 2001-
Vice President:
U.S. Representative for Vermont Bernie Sanders
: fmr. U.S. Senator from Alaska Mike Gravel
: fmr. Deputy National Security Advisor James Steinberg
: fmr. Secretary of Labor Robert Reich
Attorney General
: Judge of the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit Diane Wood
: Chairman of the Otoe-Missouria Tribe Della Warrior
: Founder of the National Black Farmers Association John Boyd
Director of the Center for Effective Public Management Elaine Kamarck
: Vice-Chairman of the Democratic National Committee and Executive vice-president of the AFL-CIO Linda Chavez-Thompson
: Researcher and professor at the University of Pittsburgh Dr. Herbert Needleman
: Mayor of Minneapolis Sharon Sayles Belton
: U.S. Representative for Oregon Earl Blumenauer
fmr. Administrator of the EPA Carol Browner
Founder and president emerita of the Children's Defense Fund Marian Wright Edelman
U.S. Senator from Virginia Chuck Robb
fmr. Attorney and Consumer Advocate Ralph Nader
- WhiteHouse.gov
Alright, Garber.


Huey Long enjoyer
the Blitz House
"Haha nah man, Gaetz doesn't have a chance in hell! He'd get destroyed in the primaries, if he doesn't get arrested first!"

"Heh okay so he's ahead now, sure, but so was Trump in 2020. Just watch, someone else is gonna cut him off."

"All of y'all panicking about Gaetz' majority are DOOMpilled! The Republicans aren't going to let him on stage, let alone take the nomination!"

"You know polls don't predict the future, right?! Nobody seriously believes the things he's said about Biden. He's gonna plummet after the first debate, watch!"

"Anyone who said Gaetz won the debates is a Trump supporter, and they don't matter, because they're not going to vote for a guy who isn't their orange god-emperor. Matt doesn't have the same pizaz. It's gonna be a second Biden term, 100%."

"Of course Trump endorsed Gaetz! He would've endorsed literally any Republican candidate, because he wants Joe out of office! Stop moaning and start canvasing!"

"All those hillbillies driving around with guns mounted on the back of their pickups are all bark and no bite. You just wait, America's gonna wake up tomorrow morning having made the right decision. It can't happen again. It won't."

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"He's not gonna serve a full term. They're gonna impeach his ass, and this time we have proof of his crimes! Relax!"

"LMAO are you fr rn? AOC and the Squad will be out of that cell in no time! The charges are bullshit and they know it!"

"Sorry to burst your bubble, but it was their own fault. Don't wanna get shot with lethal rounds? Stay inside when the curfew starts. Simple."

"God, someone's lost their way from 4chan! Just because some of the protesters have been hard to track down doesn't mean the government is 'disappearing' anyone! Get a grip!"

"There's no use complaining about how Bernie would've won now. We just gotta hunker down and wait for 2028 -- for President Kamala."


Well-known member
Default City, Russia
You really thought I was gone forever, that I was too old, huh? Well you're wrong, bitch!

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(This is the first time I've done something like this. The poster is by GingerSnaps244 on DeviantArt.)
Is this the beginning of a new age of horror?

"There's no use complaining about how Bernie would've won now. We just gotta hunker down and wait for 2028 -- for President Kamala."
Kamala would probably lose the primaries though
In any case, how heavily can Republicans gerrymander the House to avoid the inevitable Gaetz backlash?


Well-known member
Default City, Russia
Wolfram said:
1969-1972: Richard M. Nixon (Republican) ✞
1972-1973: Spiro Agnew (Republican)
1973-1981: George Wallace (Democratic, then People's)
'72 (with Henry M. Jackson) def. Spiro Agnew (Republican), Hubert Humphrey ("National" Democratic)
'76 (with Frank Rizzo) def. Charles Percy (Republican), Barbara Jordan (Human Rights), Terry Sanford (Democratic), John Lindsay (Liberal)
1981-1989: Tom Bradley (United Democratic)
'80 (with Martha Griffiths) def. John Connally (Republican), Frank Rizzo (People's), Joe Biden (Democratic)
'84 (with Martha Griffiths) def. William Scranton III (Republican), Anita Bryant (People's)
1989-: Richard Obenshain (Republican)
'88 (with Dan Patrick) def. Wilma Mankiller (United Democratic)
I found the 1976 presidential election ITTL quite fascinating, so I must thank @Wolfram for providing the map which inspired this wikibox!



Politically Illiterate
A Different Path: Harold Stassen
"Although this is my first appearance before the convention of the American Federation of Labor, I feel at home. My personal family circle has had within it brothers holding A. F. of L. cards as sheet-metal workers and milk drivers. My official family circle has within it in important administrative positions many members of A. F. of L. I believe fundamentally in the union of organization of workmen as has been carried on by the American Federation of Labor." - Harold Stassen (OTL)


Basil from OMORI in Fawlty Towers, make it happen!
Pinner, London
I have gone over the boxes in my Major 1997 victory timeline, which I have given a new name for the sixth thousandth time. What started out as the Majorverse became A Major Upset, and that became Beastly Peas, and that has now become A Lack of Salmonella. I'm still not happy with the title, to be honest.


Huey Long enjoyer
the Blitz House
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Charles Augustus Lindbergh (February 4, 1902 – 15 November, 1939) was an American aviator and military officer who served as the 33rd President of the United States from 1937 to 1939. Running as the American Liberty League candidate following the 1934 Wall Street Putsch, Lindbergh served largely as a figurehead for the League's political interests, holding little actual power in the federal government, but nonetheless acted as a ceremonial head of state, signing non-aggression treaties with both Nazi Germany and with the Empire of Japan prior to the onset of World War Two, as well as acting as a public face of the League to the American people via speeches and media appearances, before his sudden assassination in 1939.

Lindbergh was born in Detroit, Michigan, on February 4, 1902, and spent most of his childhood in Little Falls, Minnesota, and Washington, D.C. He was the third child of Charles August Lindbergh (born Carl Månsson; 1859–1924), who served as a congressman from Minnesota's 6th congressional district from 1907 to 1917. At the age of 25 in 1927, he went from obscurity as a U.S. Air Mail pilot to instantaneous world fame by winning the Orteig Prize for making the first nonstop flight from New York City to Paris on May 20–21. Lindbergh covered the 33+1⁄2-hour, 3,600-statute-mile (5,800 km) flight alone in a purpose-built, single-engine Ryan monoplane, the Spirit of St. Louis. He was subsequently an officer in the U.S. Army Air Corps Reserve and received the United States' highest military decoration, the Medal of Honor, for his aforementioned transatlantic flight. This achievement spurred significant global interest in both commercial aviation and air mail, which revolutionized the aviation industry worldwide (described then as the "Lindbergh boom"), and he devoted much time and effort to promoting such activity. He was honored as Time magazine's first "Man of the Year" in 1928, and was appointed to the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics in 1929 by President Herbert Hoover.

In March 1932, Lindbergh's infant son, Charles Jr., was kidnapped and murdered in what the American media called the "Crime of the Century." The case prompted the United States Congress to establish kidnapping as a federal crime if a kidnapper crosses state lines with a victim. Posthumous theories on the culprits of the crime, including the popularised idea of German agents using the infant as ransom to manipulate Lindbergh politically, remain common up to the current day.

In the years before the Wall Street Putsch, Lindbergh was widely known for his non-interventionist stance, vocal criticism of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and anti-Semitic beliefs that led some to suspect that he was a Nazi sympathizer, although Lindbergh never publicly stated support for Nazi Germany and on multiple occasions condemned them for their actions in both his public speeches and in his personal diary. As a celebrated public figure critical of Roosevelt and holding a vetted military rank, Lindbergh was one of many approached by League recruiters Gerald C. MacGuire and Bill Doyle to take part in the political machine created following the insurrection. While not outright promised a high-ranking position, let alone President, Lindbergh nonetheless accepted, voicing his support for Sterling Clark's seizure of D.C. in 1934 and announcing his bid for President the next year.

Inaugurated at the age of 35, the absolute minimum age required to serve the position, Lindbergh was the youngest President in American history, as well as the first since Ulysses Grant to be elected without any prior political experience. This was in large part to the office's new status as a laissez-faire figurehead -- legislative reforms introduced by the questionable Liberty League congressional majority reallocated executive power to the newly created position of Secretary of General Affairs, at the time held by Hugh Samuel Johnson, then by General George Van Horn Moseley following the former's untimely death from suspected alcohol poisoning. As President, Lindbergh relied less on administrative action and more on his cult of celebrity, making multiple speaking arrangements every month across America on the virtues of the Coup Government. Sometimes these speeches would be paradoxical in nature, espousing the 'social improvements' of Italian and German fascism while at the same time deriding the 'tyrannical one-party rule' of the Soviet Union.

During a recreational visit to New York's Coney Island, he was shot four times (three times in the abdomen, once in the chest) by a mentally disturbed former Democratic congressman named Marion Zioncheck, who had been stalking Lindbergh for several weeks prior. Despite being rushed to Coney Island Hospital, he died from blood loss before he could be treated. His assassination was initially treated as a conspiracy orchestrated by the Soviet Union, due to Zioncheck's leftist sympathies, but an internal investigation headed by DOI Director John Edgar Hoover revealed no outside influence. Lindbergh was succeeded by Vice President Alf Landon, who would go on to negotiate the ceasing of hostilities between the government and Smedly Butler's resistance in 1940.


I'm Mister Blobby, I kill Prime Ministers
Banned from the forum
During a recreational visit to New York's Coney Island, he was shot four times (three times in the abdomen, once in the chest) by a mentally disturbed former Democratic congressman named Marion Zioncheck, who had been stalking Lindbergh for several weeks prior.
You really have a gift for original presidential deaths—too many just use OTL assassins over and over.

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.