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What If More Vikings or the Chola Empire Colonize the Americas?

Its relevant because Neo Nazis spent a great deal of time and effort trying to claim an ancestral claim to South America in the decades following WWII so as to legitimize the flight south of so many German exiles. Ideas of secret Nordic ruling populations to this day makes appearances in Nazi claims about South America.
The guy is literally a "pro-Reich" "german/english" "Nordid" living in Argentina, so yeah
 
Same goes for Jacques de Mahieu. I don't care what he did during WWII. His theories about Vikings in Paraguay are bullshit even if you could prove that he was literally Oskar Schindler.

Him being a Nazi may have had something to do with his theories about Vikings in Paraguay. This is a weird hill.
 
Friant makes no such claim in your first source. That source is just "so, they look similar" anyway. I would ask you for the source of the quote, but it seems you just got this second-hand off a French conspiracy site, assuming you didn't get it from Geoffrey Brooks. That or it's the other way round and they got it from him. But you're probably him, given that you claim to be a "profesional translator of German wartime material". In which case I actually can ask you for the source.

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But nah I'm not going to because we all know what this is


if you fucked off.

Is that username... a Nazi concentration camp?
 
How do you know its him though?
The post is an almost direct copy of one on snr.org.uk made under the name Geoffrey Brooks, changed slightly. Both Der Mecklenburger and Geoffrey Brooks have a habit of posting conspiracy theories divided up into multiple parts on unrelated forums. If you google the name you'll find someone who claims to be a professional translator and lives in Buenos Aires, whose "Scandinavian ancestry confirmed by DNA".

On the site axishistory.com, ohrdruf (from South America) is repeatedly referred to as Geoffrey Brooks. There, he says he is from "south america".

And he outright reveals his identity:

"I did send Sid Guttridge a PM with my identity. As he did not receive it and and I see from the material above that it seems to be important to contributors in some way I think I am obliged to identify myself. As Geoffrey Brooks I am the author of two books; "Hirschfeld" (Pen & Sword/USNIP, 1997) which I wrote in collaboration with Wolfgang Hirschfeld, radio operator of U-234, and "FIPS" (same publisher, 1999) an edited translation of the autobiography of WWI U-boat commander Werner Fürbringer. I am also the translator on commission of thirty German language military books for UK publishers."

The user ohrdruf on the site skadi.net (a site discussed favourably on The Apricity and Stormfront) is also a translator. He also lives in Buenos Aires. He also has a habit of posting conspiracy theories divided up into multiple parts but this time it's actually not an unrelated forum.

In his first post on the site, he states:

"I came across this very interesting site while searching Yahoo. I am English and am settled with family in Argentina. I translate works from German and Spanish for British publishers, mainly to do with the World Wars. My main interests are the personality of Hitler: National Socialist religion and scientific projects towards the end of the war, particularly those which appear to have an esoteric aspect: and there is a Viking site in Paraguay which also has my attention at present. I am Reich-sympathetic."

In another post:

"This is a serious enquiry, related to a discussion on another website. If a Viking colony dating from the 13th century were discovered in South America, i.e. before Columbus, would that in your opinion be a "Primal Germanic Territory"?

The reason for the question is that there is good archaeological evidence that such a site exists, and it seems that academics in the northern hemisphere wish to conceal its existence, and I am curious to know why."

Well.
 
Should anybody wish for my explanation of what Professor Mahieu was really looking for, I shall supply it.

In Madeleine Friant's book, Part IV. para 3 ("L'origine du Chien des Incas") she states that: "Whilst the Vikings retired to the north after having been defeated by the Indians, everything leaves us believing that the Indians, the victors, took with them to South America the Viking dogs which we found mummified under the name "chiens des Incas" in the pre-Columbian tombs."

If the Viking dogs were taken to South America, this would therefore have been done either by Indian tribes in the manner suggested or, much less likely, by an escaping Viking troop. However, the "preposterous manner" is the better one for modern "science", for it gets the Viking dogs to Peru a couple of centuries before Columbus without any Vikings being involved except at the start.
 
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Should anybody wish for my explanation of what Professor Mahieu was really looking for, I shall supply it.

In Madeleine Friant's book, Part IV. para 3 ("L'origine du Chien des Incas") she states that: "Whilst the Vikings retired to the north after having been defeated by the Indians, everything leaves us believing that the Indians, the victors, took with them to South America the Viking dogs which we found mummified under the name "chiens des Incas" in the pre-Columbian tombs."

If the Viking dogs were taken to South America, this would therefore have been done either by Indian tribes in the manner suggested or, much less likely, by an escaping Viking troop. However, the "preposterous manner" is the better one for modern "science", for it gets the Viking dogs to Peru a couple of centuries before Columbus without any Vikings being involved except at the start.

Seeing as you apparently have it to hand, could you actually post some screenshots/scans of the relevant pages where Fraint gives an actual description of the skull shape/dimensions of a South American wild-dog in comparison with the mummified ones she's claiming are not consistent with it? And not just 'they are completely different' as a statement because if this is so obvious a claim there should be some hard figures.

Because at the moment my issue is not so much the competing claims about how European-shaped dogs end up in pre-Colombian South America, but the actual evidence for these being European-shaped dogs in the first place- the only source you've given as an example really isn't filling me with confidence on this point.
 
Also, Academia is perfeclty capable of not being hide-bound-they've gone from "NO PRECOLUMBIAN CONTACT BETWEEN MEDIVAL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA" TO "ok probably some just not a lot" to "long-term but sporadic contact along the pacific"
 
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Der Mecklenburger has been banned for possible plagiarism - mainly of material from sites which are closely related to the National Socialist movement. It could, of course, be their own material, in which case they are reproducing pseudo-history and conspiracy theories.

I want to say on behalf of the mods, that we certainly don't regard timelines touching or even centred on such matters as being off-limits, there's a world of writing that can be done in the Indiana Jones style and some of the odder activities of the Nazis have POD potential. In a similar vein, earlier, later or different contact scenarios should be part of our bread and butter. Heading off into nazi-inspired pseudo-history, however, is a different matter.
 
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