Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

[Mumby]

I seem to remember either Carpenter or Kurt Russell mentioning it on their DVD commentary of the film.

im going to disregard this new information because... well... come on

couldnt they just say 'oh he went to oxford and his accent went all plummy'

 

[RyanF]

im going to disregard this new information because... well... come on

couldnt they just say 'oh he went to oxford and his accent went all plummy'

It's all there if you just READ THE TL LISTEN TO THE COMMENTARY.

Oh they certainly could have just said it, but it's nowhere near as fun. I'm always surprised that Pleasance didn't just put on his (questionable) Mid-Atlantic accident as heard in Columbo and Halloween.

Anyway, can't wait to see your list for the aftermath of They Live.

 

[Ares96]

I feel like, on the implausibility scale, "Margaret Thatcher takes over the world" probably isn't that much higher than "Manhattan, yes literally all of Manhattan, is cordoned off and turned into a prison".

 

[Mumby]

I feel like, on the implausibility scale, "Margaret Thatcher takes over the world" probably isn't that much higher than "Manhattan, yes literally all of Manhattan, is cordoned off and turned into a prison".

no but one of them involves a cool Duke of New York and one of them just has everyone in Kentucky being unemployed

 

[Japhy]

no but one of them involves a cool Duke of New York and one of them just has everyone in Kentucky being unemployed

The only thing Escape From New York got wrong was the timing.

Also the existence of Escape from LA at all

10 years from now for real this time

 

[Mumby]

The only thing Escape From New York got wrong was the timing.

Also the existence of Escape from LA at all

10 years from now for real this time

escape from la is what they have on netflix so i watched that first

 

[Japhy]

escape from la is what they have on netflix so i watched that first

I'm so sorry

 

[CanadianTory]

Just and idea of mine. What if Remain wins by a 52-48 percent margin?

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom: Remain means Remain
David Cameron (Conservative) 11 May, 2010 - 30 September, 2017
2010 (Short. 20, 36.1%): Gordon Brown (Labour, 258 seats, 29.0%), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat, 57 seats, 23.0%), Peter Robinson (Democratic Unionist, 8 seats, 0.6%), Alex Salmond (Scottish National, 6 seats, 1.7%), Gerry Adams (Sinn Féin, 5 seats, 0.6%), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru, 3 seats, 0.6%), Margaret Ritchie (Social Democratic & Labour, 6 seats, 0.4%), Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 1.0%), David Ford (Alliance, 1 seat, 0.1%), John Bercow (Speaker, 1 seat, 0.08%), Sylvia Hermon (Independent, 1 seat, 0.07%)
2015 (Maj. 4, 36.9%): Ed Miliband (Labour, 232 seats, 30.4%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 56 seats, 4.7%), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat, 8 seats, 7.9%), Peter Robinson (Democratic Unionist, 8 seats, 0.6%), Gerry Adams (Sinn Féin, 4 seats, 0.6%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 3 seats, 0.6%), Alasdair McDonnell (Social Democratic & Labour, 3 seats, 0.3%), Mike Nesbitt (Ulster Unionist, 2 seats, 0.4%), Nigel Farage (UKIP, 1 seat, 12.6%), Natalie Bennett (Green, 1 seat, 3.6%), John Bercow (Speaker, 1 seat, 0.1%), Sylvia Hermon (Independent Unionist, 1 seat, 0.06%)
Boris Johnson (Conservative) 30 September, 2017 - 12 October, 2018
Conservative Party, UK Leadership Election, 2017: George Osborne, Theresa May, Liam Fox, Sajid Javid
2018 (Short 12, 36.2%): Jeremy Corbyn (Labour, 233 seats, 34.5%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 40 seats, 3.1%), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrat, 18 seats, 13.5%), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist, 10 seats, 1.5%), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin, 7 seats, 0.7%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 2 seats, 0.5%), Jonathan Bartley & Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 1.6%)
Philip Hammond (Conservative) 12 October, 2018 - present
Conservative Party, UK Leadership Election, 2018: Michael Gove, David Davis
2019 (Maj. 60, 40.0%): Jeremy Corbyn (Labour, 197 seats, 31.3%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 37 seats, 2.9%), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrat, 16 seats, 9.8%), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist, 10 seats, 1.1%), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin, 7 seats, 0.7%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 2 seats, 0.5%), Jonathan Bartley & Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 3.0%)

 

[I Saw A Red Sky]

Decades Cannot Improve

County Executives of Minneapolis-Hennepin

1941-1947: Thomas F. Gallagher (Social Democratic)
1940 (SDP control) def: Kenneth C. Haycraft (Popular Front), Oscar Youngdahl (Republican)
1942 (SDP control) def: Vincent R. Dunne (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front), Dewey Johnson (People’s)
1944 (No overall control) def: Vincent R. Dunne (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front), Susie Stageberg (People’s)
1947-1962: Vincent R. Dunne (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front)
1946 (No overall control) def: Thomas F. Gallagher (Social Democratic), Francis Shoemaker (People’s)
1948 (No overall control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), Francis Shoemaker (People’s), Roy Wier (Labor Opposition)
1950 (WFF control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), Francis Shoemaker (People’s)
1952 (WFF control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic)
1954 (WFF control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic)
1956 (WFF control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic – Humphrey), Eugene McCarthy (Social Democratic – McCarthy)
1958 (WFF control) def: Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic – Humphrey), Eugene McCarthy (Social Democratic – McCarthy)
1960 (WFF control) def: Orville Freeman (Social Democratic – Humphrey), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1962-1965: Farrell Dobbs (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front)
1962 (WFF control) def: Orville Freeman (Social Democratic), Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1965-1969: Orville Freeman (Social Democratic)
1964 (No overall control) def: Farrell Dobbs (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front), Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1966 (No overall control) def: Farrell Dobbs (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front), Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1969-1978: Farrell Dobbs (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front)
1968 (WFF control) def: Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1970 (WFF control) def: Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1972 (WFF control) def: Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1974 (WFF control) def: Eugene McCarthy (Citizens), Donald M. Fraser (Social Democratic), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1976 (No overall control) def: Donald M. Fraser (Social Democratic), Jerry Eller (Citizens), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor)
1978 (No overall control) def: Donald M. Fraser (Social Democratic), W. Harry Davis (Minneapolis Labor), Koryne Kaneski Horbal (Real Citizens), Theophilus Smith (Citizens Front – The O)
1978-1979: Grace Carlson (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front)
1979-1979: Jim Lord (Social Democratic leading Emergency Government Committee)
1979-1979: Gus Hall (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front leading Emergency Government Committee)
1979-1983: Myron H. Bright (Appointed Authority)
1983-1987: George Latimer (Independent League)
1982 (No overall control) def: Gus Hall (Workers’ and Farmers’ Front), Skip Humphrey (Social Democratic), Clyde Bellecourt (Minneapolis Labor)
1987-1995: Wayne Simoneau (Workers’)
1986 (WP control) def: George Latimer (Independent League), Skip Humphrey (Social Democratic), Sharon Sayles Belton (Minneapolis Labor)
1990 (WP control) def: Mike Freeman (Social Democratic), Sharon Sayles Belton (Minneapolis Labor), Jon Grunseth (Independent League)
1995-2007: Mike Freeman (Social Democratic)
1994 (SDP control) def: Sharon Sayles Belton (Minneapolis Labor), Wayne Simoneau (Workers’), Susan Gaertner (Independent League)
1998 (SDP control) def: Sharon Sayles Belton (Minneapolis Labor), Mike Nelson (Workers’), Susan Gaertner (Independent League), Cam Gordon (Independent–Green)

 

[Warthog]

Literally A List Based On That Sketch In Monkey Dust

1987-2008: Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe African National Union - Patriotic Front)
1990 def. Edgar Tekere (Zimbabwe Unity Movement)
1996 def. Abel Muzorewa (United Parties), Ndabaningi Sithole (Zimbabwe African National Union - Ndonga)
2002 def. Morgan Tsavangirai (Movement for Democratic Change), Wilson Kumbula (Zimbabwe African National Union - Ndonga)
2008-2008: Jonathan Moyo (ZANU-PF leading Unity Government)
2008-2009: Leon Lotz (Military Government)
2009-2010: John Bredenkamp (New Patriotic Front)
2009 def. scattered independents
2010-2018: Roy Bennett (New Patriotic Front)
2015 def. Emmerson Mnangagwa (African National Union)
2018-2018: John Bredenkamp (NPF leading Caretaker Government)
2018-2019: Nicholas van Hoogstraten (Nonpartisan leading Consortium Government)
2019-2024: Elon Musk (Zimbabwe Inc.)
2019 def. Arthur Mutambara (Anti-Consortium)

good God what a dystopia!

I was about to point out that Jonathan Moyo would only ever end up as Pres in his own wet dream when the TL jumped the crocodile *

Can I just point out the irony of Musk, as a dude intimately connected with electricity** , taking over a country with perpetual power cuts...

*Zimbabwe has very few sharks
**I meant his business not that belt, ugh

 

[Alex Richards]

Just and idea of mine. What if Remain wins by a 52-48 percent margin?

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom: Remain means Remain
David Cameron (Conservative) 11 May, 2010 - 30 September, 2017
2010 (Short. 20, 36.1%): Gordon Brown (Labour, 258 seats, 29.0%), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat, 57 seats, 23.0%), Peter Robinson (Democratic Unionist, 8 seats, 0.6%), Alex Salmond (Scottish National, 6 seats, 1.7%), Gerry Adams (Sinn Féin, 5 seats, 0.6%), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru, 3 seats, 0.6%), Margaret Ritchie (Social Democratic & Labour, 6 seats, 0.4%), Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 1.0%), David Ford (Alliance, 1 seat, 0.1%), John Bercow (Speaker, 1 seat, 0.08%), Sylvia Hermon (Independent, 1 seat, 0.07%)
2015 (Maj. 4, 36.9%): Ed Miliband (Labour, 232 seats, 30.4%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 56 seats, 4.7%), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat, 8 seats, 7.9%), Peter Robinson (Democratic Unionist, 8 seats, 0.6%), Gerry Adams (Sinn Féin, 4 seats, 0.6%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 3 seats, 0.6%), Alasdair McDonnell (Social Democratic & Labour, 3 seats, 0.3%), Mike Nesbitt (Ulster Unionist, 2 seats, 0.4%), Nigel Farage (UKIP, 1 seat, 12.6%), Natalie Bennett (Green, 1 seat, 3.6%), John Bercow (Speaker, 1 seat, 0.1%), Sylvia Hermon (Independent Unionist, 1 seat, 0.06%)
Boris Johnson (Conservative) 30 September, 2017 - 12 October, 2018
Conservative Party, UK Leadership Election, 2017: George Osborne, Theresa May, Liam Fox, Sajid Javid
2018 (Short 12, 36.2%): Jeremy Corbyn (Labour, 233 seats, 34.5%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 40 seats, 3.1%), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrat, 18 seats, 13.5%), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist, 10 seats, 1.5%), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin, 7 seats, 0.7%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 2 seats, 0.5%), Jonathan Bartley & Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 1.6%)
Philip Hammond (Conservative) 12 October, 2018 - present
Conservative Party, UK Leadership Election, 2018: Michael Gove, David Davis
2019 (Maj. 60, 40.0%): Jeremy Corbyn (Labour, 197 seats, 31.3%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 37 seats, 2.9%), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrat, 16 seats, 9.8%), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist, 10 seats, 1.1%), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin, 7 seats, 0.7%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 2 seats, 0.5%), Jonathan Bartley & Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 3.0%)

Why does Cameron resign in 2017? I mean here he's gambled with referenda 3 times (AV, Scottish Independence, EU) and won each time- yes the last one is a bit of the tight side but I can't see any reason for the government not to just keep on going until 2020.

 

[moth]

Why does Cameron resign in 2017? I mean here he's gambled with referenda 3 times (AV, Scottish Independence, EU) and won each time- yes the last one is a bit of the tight side but I can't see any reason for the government not to just keep on going until 2020.

At the time, Cameron winning didn't mean Cameron would last; indeed, IIRC, the big fear for him was that he had totally destroyed any hope of cabinet unity, and irrevocably soft split the party, making the question of his continued leadership more a 'when does he go?' than anything else; this is not to mention how he would handle crisis' post-victory, and indeed he could have very easily dropped the ball and in his dramatically weakened position been pressured by men in grey to leave.

That said the I think the lack of UKIP splurging come 2018 and Vince leading the LibDems in 2018 is my bigger gripe with the list.

 

[moth]

2018 (Short 12, 36.2%): Jeremy Corbyn (Labour, 233 seats, 34.5%), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National, 40 seats, 3.1%), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrat, 18 seats, 13.5%), Arlene Foster (Democratic Unionist, 10 seats, 1.5%), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin, 7 seats, 0.7%), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru, 2 seats, 0.5%), Jonathan Bartley & Caroline Lucas (Green, 1 seat, 1.6%)

Interesting idea, but UKIP (or lack thereof) raises my eyebrow a bit, especially as prior to the GE they had an (on paper) polling ~12%, and would have almost certainly have gotten a jump in the polls as a result of Remain winning (neither Farage nor Carswell would have stepped away from the party, which would have been a great benefit for the party to harness pissed off Leavers), and created the conditions for them to rupture the Tories like a spleen.

The colour choices for the SNP and LibDems is unfortunate, and with a PoD of 2016, I'm not seeing how Built Cable is Leader, as to be a Leader you must be an MP, which Vince almost certainly wasn't and Farron was- and with no election in 2017, Farron would survive into 2018 and still be leading the party, one that will likely be making limited gains by driving through the middle of the Tories polling calamity and a UKIP surge.

 

[Elektronaut]

UKIP just disappearing is frankly ridiculous, (Or possibly just overly Canadian) but moth is right that the party was in a pretty bad way during the campaign, UKIP was surging to close to 20% and there were open mutterings of a confidence ballot afterwards, if only as a symbolic gesture. (Though as we've seen recently, that's not something that can be conjured up on a stroke) In any case, a return to normalcy was not going to happen. I'm not sure I can see Cameron going within a year but he's going to come out of the campaign with a massive set of pressures.

The Earl has gone over this issue multiple times from an informed perspective. In short, I agree with him that UKIP does very nicely out of a Remain vote, barring some amazing reconciliation process which I don't think was within Cameron's ability or inclination, and it's a political fracture which would not be easy to put back in the box.

 

[I Saw A Red Sky]

Home Issa Afar Away

Heads of State of North Somaliland (Republic of Jabuuti after 2000)

1957-1959: Mahmoud Harbi (Republican Union)
1957 def: Ahmed Dini Ahmed (Defence of Economic and Social Interests of the Territory)
1958 Independence referendum: For (50%), Against (49%)
1958 def: Orbiss Gaddito (Democratic Union Afar)

1959-1975: Aden Abdullah Osman Daar (Somali Youth League as President of Somalia)
1959 Unification referendum: For (88%), Against (12%)
1960 def: Mahmoud Harbi (Republican Union)
1967 def: Abdirashid Ali Shermarke (Somali Youth League)
1974 def: Jama Ali Korshel (Somali National League), Ali Aref Bourhan (Somali Youth League - Harbist)
1974-1974: First Somali-Ethiopian conflict
1975-1984: Salaad Gabeyre Kediye (Military as President of Somalia)
1975: Somali Civil War begins
1976-1982: Second Somali-Ethiopian conflict
1984-1985: Mohamed Ibrahim Liqliiqato (Military as President of Somalia)
1985-1992: Jama Abdullahi Qalib (Somali Democratic Party as President of Somalia)
1985 def: Spoiled ballots (Front for Equality and Dignity, Somali National Movement)
1987-1989: Third Somali-Ethiopian conflict
1991: FED ceasefire
1992-1997: Abdirahman Jama Barre (Independent as President of Somalia)
1992 def: Jama Abdullahi Qalib (Somali Democratic Party), Ahmed Dini Ahmed (Front for Equality and Dignity)
1997: Somali Civil War ends

1997-2005: Ahmed Dini Ahmed † (Front for Equality and Dignity)
1997 Independence referendum: For (95%), Against (5%)
1998 def: Aden Robleh Awaleh (Popular National Union)
2003 def: Aden Robleh Awaleh (Popular National Union)
2005-2006: Ismael Youssouf (Front for Equality and Dignity)
2006-2016: Ougoureh Kifleh Ahmed (Front for Equality and Dignity)
2006 def: Moumin Bahdon Farah (Popular National Union)
2011 def: Ahmed Mohamed Hassan (Popular National Union)
2016-0000: Ahmed Mohamed Hassan (Popular National Union)
2016 def: Ougoureh Kifleh Ahmed (Front for Equality and Dignity)

 

[Bolt451]

This is a VERY Silly list that I'm most definitely going to continue. Possibly in its own thread. As always, with apologies to @KingCrawa

Putting Cheltenham In the History Books

Head of Cheltenham Borough Council
2018-18: Steve Jordan (Liberal Democrat)
18-22: Steve Jordan (Emergency)

The seemingly impossible event that sent Cheltenham back 2000 years left the town devastated. Without Power, health supplies and food many died and many others fled the town, ending up in servitude or in rare cases actually integrating into 1st century society. Cheltenham did however have knowledge and a small usable industrial base, capable of growing better crops and making better tools than the local Dobunni who attacked the town on more than one occaision. These attacks were faught off by the Glocuestershire constabulary, which soon expanded to become the town Militia, although as with many things, the name remained despite moving from stab vests and truncheons to chainmail and longbows.

Steve Jordan, head of the pre-dislocation Borough council remained head of the all-party emergency government which eventually built a wall around a roughly square shape from Montpellier to the College to the Hales Road industrial estate to the Breweries. Some beyond the walls stayed in their homes, often with one eye on a route into town. Other settlements remained at the Tewkesbury road industrial estate, GCHQ (dubbed “the Citadel” by some nerd long lost to history) and Balcarras Secondary school which were allied with the Town Centre. Although the latter settlement elected their own Headteacher. There were various other settlements built from splinter factions over the years such as the Republic of the Racecourse (19-25) and the Principality of Upper Hatherley. (24-27) Farm land was mostly outside of the town walls while most of the townsfolk lived inside the walls. Initially most of the town lived in reclaimed shops and offices with the town parks being given over to farming. The town also built irrigation from the Chelt and the Pitville stream. Power was also generated in limited amounts by wind, solar and Hydroelectricity.

Over time the population levelled out (at an depressingly small percentage of pre-dislocation levels). The town started trading with the local celts who appreciated the work of Cheltonian medics and engineers. It had been argued that the town should keep to itself to avoid changing history but in the early days of the location it was deemed neccesary to trade services for food while the town built up its own farm land. The town became known as the faceless after the masks many people wore in an effort to

There were incidents of temporal contamination. By 5 years following the dislocation many local Dobunni had learned 21st century written English and one had learned of the Roman Invasion in 30 years time. This information spread across the tribes, often getting more and more warped and exaggerated as it passed word of mouth amongst the still mostly illiterate Celts which lead to a shift in power and a brief war between the tribes. One group primarily drawn from the Catuvellauni, spurred on by stories of Caractacus attacked the Dobunni with the aim of attacking Cheltenham. A Dobunni-Cheltonian alliance fought back the larger Catuvellauni army at the walls of the town and ended what was later dubbed “the First Temporal War”. After this, historical texts were more stricty protected but the damage had been done and it was clear history had been changed.

22-24: Max Wilkinson (Emergency)

Mayors of Cheltenham

22-25: Max Wilkinson (Liberal Democrat-Labour)

Steve Jordan’s death to a virulent flu that hit the town in the year 24 AD meant the position of head of the emergency government moved to Max Wilkinson, a Borough councillor who was to have been the Liberal Democrat candidate in a General Election that never happened. Wilkinson continued with the stablisiation of Cheltenham as an independent state within the Dobunni lands. Relatively open but still tough enough to make it a bloody task for any potential invaders. There was also the added aspect of superstition with many Celts believing the “Cheltons” or “Cheltoni” having hidden powers they’d not yet shown. (this latter name being what one Roman historian later dubbed the people)

In an effort to restore some relative normality The several thousand Cheltonians went to the polls after seven years of emergency government. The 21 person council elected 8 Lib Dem, four Labour and eight Conservative councillors and an agreement between the Liberal Democrats and Labour to continue open trade and education as well as some medical and educational support for the Dobunni, partly with the aim of making them a stronger power to counter more aggressive tribes such as the Catuvellauni and Silures

Wilkinson served for three years before standing down as mayor of Cheltenham (as the head of the council had been dubbed, no longer a ceremonial position)

25-28: William Davie (Liberal Democrat-Labour)

Mr Davie, trapped while visiting the town with his wife, had quickly gotten involved with the administration of post-dislocation Cheltenham before being given a place on the council in 2019. He retained his seat of the awkwardly named General Hospital Ward in the initial election and was re-elected in 2026. Following Wilkinson’s standing down he was elected leader of the Town Liberal Democrats and continued Wilkinson’s policies of peaceful trading and moderate military levels but swing in public vote moved against Mr Davie’s party and while he retained his seat he lost his place in government.

28-33: Alex Chalk (Conservative)

The former MP of Cheltenham and longstanding leader of the Cheltonian Conservatives finally took power on a period of stronger isolation from the Dobunni on matters of medicine, technology and science. However this came during a period of strife amongst the neighbouring Silures who, concerned by Dobunni advancement as well as the impending apparent invasion of the Romans, attacked the Dobunni not long after a change in leader amongst the Dobunni as well as a period of distrust between the Dobunni and Cheltenham. It became apparent in the opening days of the Second Temporal War in what the Cheltonians called the Forest of Dean, that the Silures had knowledge from the old twenty first century. Better weapons and armour as well as medicine and technology. It was later discovered that several Cheltonians had left the town and headed West to seek fortune with the Silures. Many were later killed after the Silures had learned to read and write English but several were in positions of power amongst the Silrues.

The attackers advanced east, driving back the Dobunni and their Cheltonian allies. Both sides used crude explosives, crossbows and heavy armour somewhat reminiscent of historical roman or later Anglo Saxon periods. In the end the superior numbers of the Silures defeated the Dobunni at Gloster, as the settlement around the newly built bridge of the Severn had been dubbed. The Silures then went on to capture Cheltenham and the town the Cheltonians called Circencester. Many Cheltonians and Dobunni fled to other tribes but Cheltenham, its technology andresources had fallen into Silures hands

 

[Bolt451]

@KingCrawa I can change your insertion into the TL btw. I pondered having you bring Christianity to the Celts and then remembered Christ was still about at the time of the ISOT!

 

[KingCrawa]

@KingCrawa I can change your insertion into the TL btw. I pondered having you bring Christianity to the Celts and then remembered Christ was still about at the time of the ISOT!

I'm pretty happy with it as is - I'm picturing myself turning up at the Lib Dem offices and just being like "Hey how can I help"

Of course we're not saying anything about how it's all good while the Lib Dems run the show and then collapses into chaos the minute Chalky takes over.

 

[Bolt451]

I'm pretty happy with it as is - I'm picturing myself turning up at the Lib Dem offices and just being like "Hey how can I help"

Of course we're not saying anything about how it's all good while the Lib Dems run the show and then collapses into chaos the minute Chalky takes over.

Pretty much yes. Generally mucking in to the post transition effort but especially with the Lib Dems (and so the emergency govt) as you probably know people there/find it familiar. By comparison I am dead within 3 months, tops.

TBF It would've collapsed under your second term too Its external factors rather than internal. It was just purely coincidence

Currently working on the next section detailing the Governors of Cheltenham under the Silures.

 

[Mumby]

@KingCrawa I can change your insertion into the TL btw. I pondered having you bring Christianity to the Celts and then remembered Christ was still about at the time of the ISOT!

Do you think there'd be a phenomenon of people wanting to go and see The Real Jesus.