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AMERICA DIVIDES: The Multi-Party US Election of 2016
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"Let's have some more results then, before we go to Naga in Birmingham."
"Ohio's first district, in the southwest, taking in parts of Cincinnati. Although this district had a slight Republican majority under the old system, the more divided right here means that the Liberals narrowly take first place, with the Conservatives in second and then the Nationals."
"Interestingly this number district was once represented by future President William Henry Harrison, you know, the overcoat one. Or lack thereof."
"Yes, but at that point wasn't it in a completely different part of the state?"
"...that's not the point."
"Illinois' second district is one of the many in the Chicago area, reaching out from the shores of Lake Michigan into the interior - in this case the southern suburbs."
"The Democrats dominated under the old system, and here it's another two-one split between the Liberals and Progressives, as we've seen in many other diverse, urban districts across the nation."
"And here's what our map of Illinois is starting to look like..."
"We already have three different party colours on there after three different results! Illinois is going to be more politically diverse than some of the other states we've seen, it's already apparent."
"Perhaps what Mr Obama would have wanted his new system to achieve in his home state. But let's move on."
"Pennsylvania's eighth district is the antepenultimate one, and the state totals are looking... but we'll discuss that when the last two come in."
"Here we've got some more examples of how this new district-PR system doesn't stop nail-biting finishes. The Nationals came just ahead of the Liberals - well so what, they both get seats anyway - but there was a real race between the Progressives and the Fusionists to win the last seat, Mr Sanders' party triumphing by less than a thousand votes out of almost four hundred thousand votes cast."
"Still a nail-biter indeed. As we were saying, most district numbers move around a lot, but this one has been in Bucks County since at least the war, quite a divided area."
"What, as in Buckinghamshire, or...?"
"Well originally, William Penn named it after it, but they've since forgotten that Bucks was the abbreviation and just use it as the whole official name of the county."
"Jesus, I feel like we're in one of those post-apocalyptic science fiction novels. This is the BBC, the Voice of the Great God Reith, calling to you tonight from the Empire of W12."
"Don't try to be cute, Jeremy."
"Moving west again, Indiana's seventh district - quite a rarity in this mostly very right-wing state, this one is based in the city of Indianapolis, and it was considered a safe Democratic seat under the old system."
"Now, though, one of the seats does go to the right - with the Nationals just barely beating out the Fusionists."
"Something new, now. Our first result from yet another new state. This one is Wisconsin. Katty, tell us about Wisconsin."
"Well, it's a Midwest state that sits on the western coast of Lake Michigan. Farming is big here and industry used to be quite big in Milwaukee on that coast. Most of the settlers came from Germany and they still have German-influenced culture, with Oktoberfest and everything. I am told they all talk like 'hello dere, ope, I dropped my baaaayg'. Oh, and they're obsessed with cheese."
"I thought all Americans put cheese on everything?"
"Yes, but theirs might actually be edible."
"Fair enough. Well, from this result, it looks like a rather right-wing state? All three seats going to right-wing parties."
"That's not typical, Andrew. This district is in the very rural northwest, so it's a bit surprising that it's declared first. Usually Wisconsin is a fairly reliable member of the Democratic column under the old system, at least on the presidential level. To the point that I don't think Mrs Clinton actually campaigned there for the Liberals..."
"Well, we'll see...and I can see Jeremy is dying to put up a map update."
"Well, despite what Katty just said, that does look like a growing sea of Trump orange," (pause for smirk) "in these two neighbouring states."
"Calm down, the Liberals have got this, I'm sure. Er, I mean-"
"Back to Ohio, and this district in the middle-northeast of the state...another relative success for the Conservatives in co-leader John Kasich's home state, although they still have yet to win more than one seat per district, unlike say the Liberals, Nationals or Progressives..."
"Pennsylvania's sixth district, penultimate one, and this time the Fusionists beat the Progressives to take the third seat."
"This one's in the south-east of the state, and takes in, er, parts of Chester, Montgomery, Reading..."
"WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?"
"...and Lebanon."
"Nick Ferrari has gone too far."
"Another district in Wisconsin, and I see what you meant, Katty, this one's rather different politically!"
"Yes, this one's in southern Wisconsin. It's actually quite big and not what we would call that urban, despite all three seats going to the left, though it does have the city of Madison."
"And from a very different part of the country, Mississ - isssismmiss -isspi -"
"Mississippi's first district."
"Yes, that. Well, in addition to being the most difficult to spell and pronounce, this is America's poorest state, isn't it?"
"As we discussed before, yes. This district does include the major university, though, located in Oxford."
"An American place name connection that actually makes sense? Is that allowed?"
"Yes. Unfortunately, so is gerrymandering to disenfranchise the BAME voters. But under this new system, you can see that the Liberals have secured the third seat in what was formerly a reliable Republican district."
"With both the Nationals and the Constitution Party taking seats...Jeremy, can we look at the overall picture in Alabama and Mississississ - the other one?"
"I thought you'd never ask."
"Once again, a considerable range of parties on display in what used to just be a polarised two-party race...though again, orange seems to the leading colour everywhere here too."
"Let's...not think about that too hard, but move on."
"Speaking of political diversity, Michigan's third district - in the west-centre of the state - goes Progressive-Conservative-Constitution, which I don't think is a combination we've seen before. Both the Liberals and Nationals fail to get a seat."
"Also a relatively high vote for the Alliance Party, though nowhere near taking a seat of course. The former Republican incumbent, and Conservative leading candidate this time, Justin Amash, is known to have libertarian sympathies, which may be connected."
"Another unusual combination from Illinois' seventeenth district, in the west of the state. Usually quite reliably Democratic under the old system, except during in the Republican wave election of 2010... here the Progressives and Liberals are almost tied and get a seat each, but the third seat goes to the Constitution Party - perhaps not whom we might have expected."
"Yes, this new voting system is showing hidden political undercurrents in many places. Speaking of which, we have the final Pennsylvania district..."
"As I said, that's the last district...and this one falls right along the backbone of the Appalachian mountains, which we've discussed so much, stretching from Scranton to Harrisburg...an area which has been such a support base for Mr Trump's National Party, and well..."
"By PR standards, that's an overwhelming victory. The third seat's going to the Fusionists, and no left-wing parties in contention. Which...ah...which also has consequences for Pennsylvania's overall vote numbers, and therefore its statewide top-up seats..."
"Now that is a shock. By a significant margin - less than a million votes, but only out of six million cast - Pennsylvania's polls are topped not by the Liberals, as we might expect in what was formerly a reliable Democratic state, but by the National Party. Katty, can you, can you explain?"
"No, Andrew, this is going to keep the psephologists up all night. The appeal of Mr Trump's avowed protectionist economic policies to mining communities in decline in the Appalachian region may be part of it, as we saw in West Virginia. But this was not foreseen by anyone. Look at that sea of orange on the map."
"Twenty seats go to the Nationals, eighteen to the Liberals, twelve to the Fusionists, and six to the Progressives..."
"Of course, we could say that we've already seen multiple southern states give their statewide votes to the Liberals, when the Republicans used to have the majority there. So the left and right can fracture differently in different places, and this is just a quirk of that, and we absolutely definitely don't need to panic."
"Errr...to take our minds off of that, let's now go to Naga Munchetty, interviewing voters in Birmingham."
The screen flickered and resolved to show Naga standing in front of a multi-tiered, ornate, golden library.
Just before the studio sound cut off, the words 'oh, for fuck's s-' could distinctly be heard.
Rich (BB code):
OH-01
Lib 94,794 26.2%
Con 91,946 25.4%
Nat 67,402 18.7%
Prog 66,194 18.3%
Cst 25,677 7.1%
All 15,284 4.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 361,297
MCs elected:
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Nat"Ohio's first district, in the southwest, taking in parts of Cincinnati. Although this district had a slight Republican majority under the old system, the more divided right here means that the Liberals narrowly take first place, with the Conservatives in second and then the Nationals."
"Interestingly this number district was once represented by future President William Henry Harrison, you know, the overcoat one. Or lack thereof."
"Yes, but at that point wasn't it in a completely different part of the state?"
"...that's not the point."
Rich (BB code):
IL-02
Lib 146,691 48.3%
Prog 90,035 29.7%
Nat 24,532 8.1%
Cst 18,248 6%
Con 15,244 5%
All 8,872 2.9%
Fus 0 0%
Total 303,622
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"Illinois' second district is one of the many in the Chicago area, reaching out from the shores of Lake Michigan into the interior - in this case the southern suburbs."
"The Democrats dominated under the old system, and here it's another two-one split between the Liberals and Progressives, as we've seen in many other diverse, urban districts across the nation."
"And here's what our map of Illinois is starting to look like..."
"We already have three different party colours on there after three different results! Illinois is going to be more politically diverse than some of the other states we've seen, it's already apparent."
"Perhaps what Mr Obama would have wanted his new system to achieve in his home state. But let's move on."
Rich (BB code):
PA-08
Nat 105,632 27.3%
Lib 103,845 26.8%
Prog 81,840 21.1%
Fus 80,975 20.9%
All 14,733 3.8%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 387,025
MCs elected:
Nat
Lib
Prog"Pennsylvania's eighth district is the antepenultimate one, and the state totals are looking... but we'll discuss that when the last two come in."
"Here we've got some more examples of how this new district-PR system doesn't stop nail-biting finishes. The Nationals came just ahead of the Liberals - well so what, they both get seats anyway - but there was a real race between the Progressives and the Fusionists to win the last seat, Mr Sanders' party triumphing by less than a thousand votes out of almost four hundred thousand votes cast."
"Still a nail-biter indeed. As we were saying, most district numbers move around a lot, but this one has been in Bucks County since at least the war, quite a divided area."
"What, as in Buckinghamshire, or...?"
"Well originally, William Penn named it after it, but they've since forgotten that Bucks was the abbreviation and just use it as the whole official name of the county."
"Jesus, I feel like we're in one of those post-apocalyptic science fiction novels. This is the BBC, the Voice of the Great God Reith, calling to you tonight from the Empire of W12."
"Don't try to be cute, Jeremy."
Rich (BB code):
IN-07
Lib 78,401 29.7%
Prog 77,638 29.4%
Nat 50,293 19%
Fus 45,369 17.2%
All 12,688 4.8%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 264,389
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Nat"Moving west again, Indiana's seventh district - quite a rarity in this mostly very right-wing state, this one is based in the city of Indianapolis, and it was considered a safe Democratic seat under the old system."
"Now, though, one of the seats does go to the right - with the Nationals just barely beating out the Fusionists."
Rich (BB code):
WI-07
Nat 100,404 27.1%
Cst 84,236 22.8%
Prog 79,657 21.5%
Lib 58,217 15.7%
Con 28,827 7.8%
All 18,500 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 369,841
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Prog"Something new, now. Our first result from yet another new state. This one is Wisconsin. Katty, tell us about Wisconsin."
"Well, it's a Midwest state that sits on the western coast of Lake Michigan. Farming is big here and industry used to be quite big in Milwaukee on that coast. Most of the settlers came from Germany and they still have German-influenced culture, with Oktoberfest and everything. I am told they all talk like 'hello dere, ope, I dropped my baaaayg'. Oh, and they're obsessed with cheese."
"I thought all Americans put cheese on everything?"
"Yes, but theirs might actually be edible."
"Fair enough. Well, from this result, it looks like a rather right-wing state? All three seats going to right-wing parties."
"That's not typical, Andrew. This district is in the very rural northwest, so it's a bit surprising that it's declared first. Usually Wisconsin is a fairly reliable member of the Democratic column under the old system, at least on the presidential level. To the point that I don't think Mrs Clinton actually campaigned there for the Liberals..."
"Well, we'll see...and I can see Jeremy is dying to put up a map update."
"Well, despite what Katty just said, that does look like a growing sea of Trump orange," (pause for smirk) "in these two neighbouring states."
"Calm down, the Liberals have got this, I'm sure. Er, I mean-"
Rich (BB code):
OH-07
Con 97,261 29.6%
Nat 75,388 22.9%
Lib 59,035 17.9%
Prog 48,969 14.9%
Cst 32,916 10%
All 15,369 4.7%
Fus 0 0%
Total 328,938
MCs elected:
Con
Nat
Lib"Back to Ohio, and this district in the middle-northeast of the state...another relative success for the Conservatives in co-leader John Kasich's home state, although they still have yet to win more than one seat per district, unlike say the Liberals, Nationals or Progressives..."
Rich (BB code):
PA-06
Lib 94,166 25.6%
Nat 90,228 24.5%
Fus 85,112 23.1%
Prog 83,473 22.6%
All 15,575 4.2%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 368,554
MCs elected:
Lib
Nat
Fus"Pennsylvania's sixth district, penultimate one, and this time the Fusionists beat the Progressives to take the third seat."
"This one's in the south-east of the state, and takes in, er, parts of Chester, Montgomery, Reading..."
"WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?"
"...and Lebanon."
"Nick Ferrari has gone too far."
Rich (BB code):
WI-02
Prog 168,805 40.9%
Lib 102,702 24.9%
Cst 44,263 10.7%
Nat 41,071 9.9%
Con 34,274 8.3%
All 21,688 5.3%
Fus 0 0%
Total 412,803
MCs elected:
Prog
Lib
Prog"Another district in Wisconsin, and I see what you meant, Katty, this one's rather different politically!"
"Yes, this one's in southern Wisconsin. It's actually quite big and not what we would call that urban, despite all three seats going to the left, though it does have the city of Madison."
Rich (BB code):
MS-01
Nat 88,697 28.7%
Cst 83,898 27.2%
Lib 79,845 25.9%
Con 28,643 9.3%
Prog 20,924 6.8%
All 6,709 2.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 308,717
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Lib"And from a very different part of the country, Mississ - isssismmiss -isspi -"
"Mississippi's first district."
"Yes, that. Well, in addition to being the most difficult to spell and pronounce, this is America's poorest state, isn't it?"
"As we discussed before, yes. This district does include the major university, though, located in Oxford."
"An American place name connection that actually makes sense? Is that allowed?"
"Yes. Unfortunately, so is gerrymandering to disenfranchise the BAME voters. But under this new system, you can see that the Liberals have secured the third seat in what was formerly a reliable Republican district."
"With both the Nationals and the Constitution Party taking seats...Jeremy, can we look at the overall picture in Alabama and Mississississ - the other one?"
"I thought you'd never ask."
"Once again, a considerable range of parties on display in what used to just be a polarised two-party race...though again, orange seems to the leading colour everywhere here too."
"Let's...not think about that too hard, but move on."
Rich (BB code):
MI-03
Prog 90,493 25.9%
Con 67,241 19.2%
Cst 63,171 18.1%
Lib 56,837 16.3%
Nat 49,932 14.3%
All 21,816 6.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 349,490
MCs elected:
Prog
Con
Cst"Speaking of political diversity, Michigan's third district - in the west-centre of the state - goes Progressive-Conservative-Constitution, which I don't think is a combination we've seen before. Both the Liberals and Nationals fail to get a seat."
"Also a relatively high vote for the Alliance Party, though nowhere near taking a seat of course. The former Republican incumbent, and Conservative leading candidate this time, Justin Amash, is known to have libertarian sympathies, which may be connected."
Rich (BB code):
IL-17
Lib 67,024 23.3%
Prog 66,975 23.3%
Cst 51,636 18%
Nat 48,615 16.9%
Con 35,765 12.5%
All 17,087 6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 287,103
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Cst"Another unusual combination from Illinois' seventeenth district, in the west of the state. Usually quite reliably Democratic under the old system, except during in the Republican wave election of 2010... here the Progressives and Liberals are almost tied and get a seat each, but the third seat goes to the Constitution Party - perhaps not whom we might have expected."
"Yes, this new voting system is showing hidden political undercurrents in many places. Speaking of which, we have the final Pennsylvania district..."
Rich (BB code):
PA-11
Nat 121,477 38%
Fus 70,201 22%
Lib 58,917 18.4%
Prog 56,697 17.8%
All 12,089 3.8%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 319,380
MCs elected:
Nat
Fus
Nat"As I said, that's the last district...and this one falls right along the backbone of the Appalachian mountains, which we've discussed so much, stretching from Scranton to Harrisburg...an area which has been such a support base for Mr Trump's National Party, and well..."
"By PR standards, that's an overwhelming victory. The third seat's going to the Fusionists, and no left-wing parties in contention. Which...ah...which also has consequences for Pennsylvania's overall vote numbers, and therefore its statewide top-up seats..."
Rich (BB code):
Pennsylvania at-large
Nat 1,724,018 28.2%
Lib 1,640,250 26.8%
Prog 1,285,525 21%
Fus 1,246,834 20.4%
All 218,166 3.6%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 6,114,793
MCs elected:
Nat
Nat"Now that is a shock. By a significant margin - less than a million votes, but only out of six million cast - Pennsylvania's polls are topped not by the Liberals, as we might expect in what was formerly a reliable Democratic state, but by the National Party. Katty, can you, can you explain?"
"No, Andrew, this is going to keep the psephologists up all night. The appeal of Mr Trump's avowed protectionist economic policies to mining communities in decline in the Appalachian region may be part of it, as we saw in West Virginia. But this was not foreseen by anyone. Look at that sea of orange on the map."
"Twenty seats go to the Nationals, eighteen to the Liberals, twelve to the Fusionists, and six to the Progressives..."
"Of course, we could say that we've already seen multiple southern states give their statewide votes to the Liberals, when the Republicans used to have the majority there. So the left and right can fracture differently in different places, and this is just a quirk of that, and we absolutely definitely don't need to panic."
"Errr...to take our minds off of that, let's now go to Naga Munchetty, interviewing voters in Birmingham."
The screen flickered and resolved to show Naga standing in front of a multi-tiered, ornate, golden library.
Just before the studio sound cut off, the words 'oh, for fuck's s-' could distinctly be heard.
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It's just not necessarily going to matter as much.
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Munchetty smiled brightly at the camera, microphone in hand. "Yes, I'm here in Byrming-HAM to interview voters from Alabama about the new US election which is going on."
A few quick editing cuts as she spoke to different people in the street. A man with dark glasses, a goatee and an afro-like mass of hair, the latter two obviously dyed. "Well, this Hillary Clinton, y'know, some people say she's an evil woman, but I say she's just a sweet talkin' woman. Communication breakdown all around, insufficient data comin' through. What a terrible thing to lose."
"I see. And what do you think to Ted Cruz?"
The man paused for a moment and his lips moved, then he shrugged. "He's a twat."
Abrupt jump-cut to a thin, balding elderly man with slightly bulging eyes. "Well, I think the health insurance situation in the US really needs sorting. Speaking of insurance, you know those statements you have to fill in when you have a car crash, well, in Australia, it turns out-" Another abrupt cut, the only evidence being that Naga now looked slightly irritated. "But anyway, I think it's good that the US now has more parties. Maybe they can stop their diners serving up the bits of food that everyone else throws away now. Chickens haven't GOT wings! And it's not potato skins, it's potato PEEL!" (And again) "...yes, more parties is good. Means it's not just the same tired old policies. They've got some new material to tackle today's problems. And talking of problems (pause) I've got this mole..."
Cut to Naga, now looking weary, speaking to a woman in a white headscarf, with a battered picture of George Galloway in the centre of a rosette pinned to her equally white clothes. "Well, I'm very disappointed in Barack Obama," she said. "When he was elected, all the Republicans could talk about was how he was going to introduce sharia law." She looked about herself theatrically. "And yet they haven't rolled it out anywhere in the US! What kind of political promise breaking is that?"
Cut again to an an ageing, familiar-looking black man, clearly at the end of a long spiel. "Katanga, my friends, katanga! Oooooooookay!" (Annoyed) "Alright, I've said it. And now, can I talk quite seriously about the shocking treatment of black people by the police in the US and what Barack Obama is doing-"
"No, I'm sorry, we've run out of time."
Another abrupt cut to Naga standing in front of New Street station, covered in scaffolding. "So there you have it - the views of the ordinary people of Byrming-HAM, Alabama, on this unique American election. Andrew, back to y-"
"No, you're not getting away with this!" Neil intruded. "We already did this joke with Matt Frei, you can't just go to the wrong Birmingham!" He paused. "As in, Beerming-um rather than Byrming-HAM, I mean."
Munchetty looked confused. "But this is Byrming-HAM, isn't it? I mean..." She held up a tourism leaflet. "It's got the right skyline and everything!"
Neil quietly facepalmed. "All right. Whatever. We'd better stop this segment soon, the backroom boys already tell me that the social media pipelines are getting choked with random racist messages because you're on camera. Some of them are even from the United States."
Munchetty frowned. "That's a sad state of affairs." She paused. "Have we got time for me to gaslight you a bit by reminding you that, while 95% of the reason people dislike me is indeed horrible racism, I also occasionally actually say something genuinely unhinged, but you can't point it out without being grouped with all the racists?"
"Oh, go on then."
"Ah...Denmark did 9/11?"
"Come on, that's just derivative of what Trump said earlier, get better material."
"That's what I said to that bald bloke," Munchetty muttered as she vanished from the screen.
Neil stared into the camera with a fixed smile on his face. "Suddenly, the fact that Mr Trump's party has won Pennsylvania no longer feels so awful by comparison. Let's move on."
"Mississ...ippi's fourth district is in the south-east, along the coast, and includes the city of Biloxi, which I am absolutely definitely mispronouncing."
"Similar results to the first district we just saw - National and Constitution parties in the lead, but the Liberals taking the last seat. Conservatives and Progressives not in contention here."
"Another Illinois district, and another Chicago district, taking in the northern suburbs."
"Until recently, under the old system this was represented by Bob Dold, who is the past tense of Bob Dole."
"Don't try to be clever, Jeremy."
"And a very similar result from Ohio's third distrct, which is shaped like a Mandelbrot set but takes in the city of Columbus. The Conservatives weren't that far off getting the third seat."
"Another interesting result there from Michigan. Katty?"
"Very divided between the parties, indeed. Michigan's second district is on the coast of Lake Michigan - facing across from Wisconsin on the other side. It has more people of Dutch descent than any other district in the US."
"No wonder they've split between so many parties then. Any chance of a seat for PvdD or the SGP?"
"...no. Well, I suppose there is a seat for the Constitution Party and they're basically like the SGP. Anyway, this district was Republican under the old system, and two seats are going to right-wing parties here - with the Nationals not in contention, unusually, just like the Liberals - but it's the Progressives who take the leading seat. Jeremy's map's looking more colourful"
"Interesting."
"Down to Alabama now-"
"If you turn that into a song I'm leaving."
"...where the first district is in the south-west of the state, along the Gulf coast again, like we saw with neighbouring Mississ - the other one. Anyway, this takes in the big port city of Mobile."
"It's pronounced Mo-beel."
"Now you're just making stuff up."
"Anyway, this is usually a reliably Republican district under the old system, but again one seat has gone to the Liberals. The Conservatives get the third this time, staging a limited fightback in these Deep South states, it seems."
"And speaking of the Conservatives..."
"The same parties win, actually, but just in a different order, here in Ohio's fourth district, which has been compared to, er, a 'zigzag duck'."
"That's an obscure Irish disco hit from 1978 isn't it?"
"...no. Again a right-wing district usually, but the Liberals get a seat, and in Ohio if nowhere else, the Conservatives are comfortably on top."
"Yet another Illinois district, more the outer suburbs of Chicago, but still comfortably in the bag for the left-wing parties. As we saw before in the fourth district, here it's the Progressives that are on top and the Liberals are playing second fiddle."
"Another eleventh district, and another suburban district, no less, but this time it's the suburbs of Detroit."
"The Progressives take the lead yet again, interestingly, but the Conservatives get the third seat, almost tying with the Liberals. We do appear to be seeing a limited recovery for the Conservatives after their very poor results on the eastern seaboard."
"Shall we talk about how much Marco Rubio sucks again?"
"Oh, there isn't any point, he won't understand anyway."
"Back to Indiana, and this is the only other district - other than the seventh which we've already seen - that elected Democrats under the old system. It takes in the city of Gary in the northwest, which bleeds into the suburbs of Chicago in neighbouring Illinois."
"A city named Gary sounds like something from a bootleg Pokémon translation."
"Alright, no need to show you're down with the kids."
"That was nineteen ninety effing eight!"
"You with your skateboards and your PlayStations. Anyway, Liberal, National, Progressive, not a combination we've seen in many places I think...and let's have a map update."
"The colours of Ohio are certainly looking quite different to what we've seen elsewhere."
"So this is another gerrymandered district, in which most of the BAME voters in Alabama were packed into this district, taking in much of Birmingham-"
"Please don't remind me."
"-and also other black majority areas, including Selma, which some of us may remember from the Civil Rights marches of the 1960s."
"Alright, now you've gone too far the other way with the age-specific references. The Civil Rights movement was a long time ago, all the kids have learned in school about how racism was solved forever then, now, please go back to talking about racial gerrymandering."
"Yes. Well, as we were saying before, in this case the new voting system has caused the gerrymandering to backfire - while the districts in which the old Republicans just secured a narrow but reliable majority for themselves, we're seeing Liberals elected to one of the seats, whereas here where BAME voters were packed into one, all three have gone to the Liberals. Suddenly it does make a difference whether you get 51% or 95% of the vote to win a district."
"I see."
"Another Illinois district, and a rural one this time, in the west of the state, rather than Chicago. Now Abraham Lincoln briefly represented a district in this geographical area, rather than just using the number-"
"My word, are you allowed to do that?"
"And, as we were saying, quite a diversity of colours on the map now. Mr Cruz's Constitution Party are in the lead, then the Nationals, then the Progressives just barely beat the Conservatives to the last seat."
"What do you think Abraham Lincoln would think to Ted Cruz?"
"Who can say. Well, who can say before the watershed, anyway. Besides, we don't even know what Mr Cruz's opinions on cheese are."
"Job for Emily Maitlis to find out, I think. And...a voice in my ear is telling me we've just about reached half of all seats declared now, so let's have an update on total seat numbers..."
"Out of 691 seats declared, the Liberals are the clear leading party, but still have only uh...thirty-eight percent of all seats. And the Nationals in second. Not something anyone predicted." (Pregnant pause) "Then the Progressives in third. Also contrary to predictions, that Mr Sanders' party would be the only one to make three figures thus far. Of course, it depends on how one counts the Fusion candidates. The Conservatives along have seventy-one seats, but with the Fusionists would have ninety-five...er, which is still less than a hundred, isn't it? Or if you added the Fusionists to the Constitution Party, they'd have fifty-three...add all three of those right-wing parties together and they'd have one hundred and twenty-four."
"Which is slightly more than the Progressives, but still far fewer than the Nationals. Much of the right-wing vote in the United States has been captured by the populism and violent rhetoric of Mr Trump. One wonders what the reaction from the rest of the world will be."
"Well, regardless, we will not know what government is formed until the end of this election night - if then. In the meantime, stay with us on the BBC, and ignore the ominous tolling bell of doom in the background."
"Oh sorry, I forgot to put my phone on silent."
A few quick editing cuts as she spoke to different people in the street. A man with dark glasses, a goatee and an afro-like mass of hair, the latter two obviously dyed. "Well, this Hillary Clinton, y'know, some people say she's an evil woman, but I say she's just a sweet talkin' woman. Communication breakdown all around, insufficient data comin' through. What a terrible thing to lose."
"I see. And what do you think to Ted Cruz?"
The man paused for a moment and his lips moved, then he shrugged. "He's a twat."
Abrupt jump-cut to a thin, balding elderly man with slightly bulging eyes. "Well, I think the health insurance situation in the US really needs sorting. Speaking of insurance, you know those statements you have to fill in when you have a car crash, well, in Australia, it turns out-" Another abrupt cut, the only evidence being that Naga now looked slightly irritated. "But anyway, I think it's good that the US now has more parties. Maybe they can stop their diners serving up the bits of food that everyone else throws away now. Chickens haven't GOT wings! And it's not potato skins, it's potato PEEL!" (And again) "...yes, more parties is good. Means it's not just the same tired old policies. They've got some new material to tackle today's problems. And talking of problems (pause) I've got this mole..."
Cut to Naga, now looking weary, speaking to a woman in a white headscarf, with a battered picture of George Galloway in the centre of a rosette pinned to her equally white clothes. "Well, I'm very disappointed in Barack Obama," she said. "When he was elected, all the Republicans could talk about was how he was going to introduce sharia law." She looked about herself theatrically. "And yet they haven't rolled it out anywhere in the US! What kind of political promise breaking is that?"
Cut again to an an ageing, familiar-looking black man, clearly at the end of a long spiel. "Katanga, my friends, katanga! Oooooooookay!" (Annoyed) "Alright, I've said it. And now, can I talk quite seriously about the shocking treatment of black people by the police in the US and what Barack Obama is doing-"
"No, I'm sorry, we've run out of time."
Another abrupt cut to Naga standing in front of New Street station, covered in scaffolding. "So there you have it - the views of the ordinary people of Byrming-HAM, Alabama, on this unique American election. Andrew, back to y-"
"No, you're not getting away with this!" Neil intruded. "We already did this joke with Matt Frei, you can't just go to the wrong Birmingham!" He paused. "As in, Beerming-um rather than Byrming-HAM, I mean."
Munchetty looked confused. "But this is Byrming-HAM, isn't it? I mean..." She held up a tourism leaflet. "It's got the right skyline and everything!"
Neil quietly facepalmed. "All right. Whatever. We'd better stop this segment soon, the backroom boys already tell me that the social media pipelines are getting choked with random racist messages because you're on camera. Some of them are even from the United States."
Munchetty frowned. "That's a sad state of affairs." She paused. "Have we got time for me to gaslight you a bit by reminding you that, while 95% of the reason people dislike me is indeed horrible racism, I also occasionally actually say something genuinely unhinged, but you can't point it out without being grouped with all the racists?"
"Oh, go on then."
"Ah...Denmark did 9/11?"
"Come on, that's just derivative of what Trump said earlier, get better material."
"That's what I said to that bald bloke," Munchetty muttered as she vanished from the screen.
Neil stared into the camera with a fixed smile on his face. "Suddenly, the fact that Mr Trump's party has won Pennsylvania no longer feels so awful by comparison. Let's move on."
Rich (BB code):
MS-04
Nat 97,648 34.5%
Cst 70,543 25%
Lib 61,507 21.8%
Con 27,728 9.8%
Prog 18,538 6.6%
All 6,758 2.4%
Fus 0 0%
Total 282,721
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Lib"Mississ...ippi's fourth district is in the south-east, along the coast, and includes the city of Biloxi, which I am absolutely definitely mispronouncing."
"Similar results to the first district we just saw - National and Constitution parties in the lead, but the Liberals taking the last seat. Conservatives and Progressives not in contention here."
Rich (BB code):
IL-10
Lib 98,966 34.3%
Prog 79,891 27.7%
Con 42,123 14.6%
Nat 34,378 11.9%
Cst 17,608 6.1%
All 15,338 5.3%
Fus 0 0%
Total 288,303
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"Another Illinois district, and another Chicago district, taking in the northern suburbs."
"Until recently, under the old system this was represented by Bob Dold, who is the past tense of Bob Dole."
"Don't try to be clever, Jeremy."
Rich (BB code):
OH-03
Lib 123,950 39.5%
Prog 86,495 27.5%
Con 54,851 17.5%
Nat 22,088 7%
All 13,886 4.4%
Cst 12,885 4.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 314,155
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"And a very similar result from Ohio's third distrct, which is shaped like a Mandelbrot set but takes in the city of Columbus. The Conservatives weren't that far off getting the third seat."
Rich (BB code):
MI-02
Prog 80,039 23.1%
Cst 77,263 22.3%
Con 66,948 19.3%
Lib 52,423 15.1%
Nat 48,988 14.1%
All 20,844 6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 346,505
MCs elected:
Prog
Cst
Con"Another interesting result there from Michigan. Katty?"
"Very divided between the parties, indeed. Michigan's second district is on the coast of Lake Michigan - facing across from Wisconsin on the other side. It has more people of Dutch descent than any other district in the US."
"No wonder they've split between so many parties then. Any chance of a seat for PvdD or the SGP?"
"...no. Well, I suppose there is a seat for the Constitution Party and they're basically like the SGP. Anyway, this district was Republican under the old system, and two seats are going to right-wing parties here - with the Nationals not in contention, unusually, just like the Liberals - but it's the Progressives who take the leading seat. Jeremy's map's looking more colourful"
"Interesting."
Rich (BB code):
AL-01
Nat 89,507 29.5%
Lib 81,901 27%
Con 65,885 21.7%
Cst 37,242 12.3%
Prog 21,463 7.1%
All 7,481 2.5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 303,478
MCs elected:
Nat
Lib
Con"Down to Alabama now-"
"If you turn that into a song I'm leaving."
"...where the first district is in the south-west of the state, along the Gulf coast again, like we saw with neighbouring Mississ - the other one. Anyway, this takes in the big port city of Mobile."
"It's pronounced Mo-beel."
"Now you're just making stuff up."
"Anyway, this is usually a reliably Republican district under the old system, but again one seat has gone to the Liberals. The Conservatives get the third this time, staging a limited fightback in these Deep South states, it seems."
Rich (BB code):
OH-04
Con 97,272 30%
Nat 76,014 23.4%
Lib 52,973 16.3%
Prog 46,668 14.4%
Cst 35,430 10.9%
All 16,292 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 324,648
MCs elected:
Con
Nat
Lib"And speaking of the Conservatives..."
"The same parties win, actually, but just in a different order, here in Ohio's fourth district, which has been compared to, er, a 'zigzag duck'."
"That's an obscure Irish disco hit from 1978 isn't it?"
"...no. Again a right-wing district usually, but the Liberals get a seat, and in Ohio if nowhere else, the Conservatives are comfortably on top."
Rich (BB code):
IL-11
Prog 86,069 30.8%
Lib 78,564 28.1%
Nat 38,351 13.7%
Con 33,441 12%
Cst 27,311 9.8%
All 15,883 5.7%
Fus 0 0%
Total 279,620
MCs elected:
Prog
Lib
Prog"Yet another Illinois district, more the outer suburbs of Chicago, but still comfortably in the bag for the left-wing parties. As we saw before in the fourth district, here it's the Progressives that are on top and the Liberals are playing second fiddle."
Rich (BB code):
MI-11
Prog 94,131 24.1%
Lib 83,012 21.2%
Con 82,824 21.2%
Nat 74,125 19%
Cst 37,296 9.5%
All 19,538 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 390,926
MCs elected:
Prog
Lib
Con"Another eleventh district, and another suburban district, no less, but this time it's the suburbs of Detroit."
"The Progressives take the lead yet again, interestingly, but the Conservatives get the third seat, almost tying with the Liberals. We do appear to be seeing a limited recovery for the Conservatives after their very poor results on the eastern seaboard."
"Shall we talk about how much Marco Rubio sucks again?"
"Oh, there isn't any point, he won't understand anyway."
Rich (BB code):
IN-01
Lib 85,776 28.6%
Nat 79,098 26.3%
Prog 76,582 25.5%
Fus 45,540 15.2%
All 13,287 4.4%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 300,283
MCs elected:
Lib
Nat
Prog"Back to Indiana, and this is the only other district - other than the seventh which we've already seen - that elected Democrats under the old system. It takes in the city of Gary in the northwest, which bleeds into the suburbs of Chicago in neighbouring Illinois."
"A city named Gary sounds like something from a bootleg Pokémon translation."
"Alright, no need to show you're down with the kids."
"That was nineteen ninety effing eight!"
"You with your skateboards and your PlayStations. Anyway, Liberal, National, Progressive, not a combination we've seen in many places I think...and let's have a map update."
"The colours of Ohio are certainly looking quite different to what we've seen elsewhere."
Rich (BB code):
AL-07
Lib 158,424 54%
Prog 46,162 15.7%
Nat 36,193 12.3%
Con 28,328 9.7%
Cst 19,393 6.6%
All 4,731 1.6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 293,231
MCs elected:
Lib
Lib
Lib"So this is another gerrymandered district, in which most of the BAME voters in Alabama were packed into this district, taking in much of Birmingham-"
"Please don't remind me."
"-and also other black majority areas, including Selma, which some of us may remember from the Civil Rights marches of the 1960s."
"Alright, now you've gone too far the other way with the age-specific references. The Civil Rights movement was a long time ago, all the kids have learned in school about how racism was solved forever then, now, please go back to talking about racial gerrymandering."
"Yes. Well, as we were saying before, in this case the new voting system has caused the gerrymandering to backfire - while the districts in which the old Republicans just secured a narrow but reliable majority for themselves, we're seeing Liberals elected to one of the seats, whereas here where BAME voters were packed into one, all three have gone to the Liberals. Suddenly it does make a difference whether you get 51% or 95% of the vote to win a district."
"I see."
Rich (BB code):
IL-18
Cst 82,427 23.7%
Nat 66,095 19%
Prog 62,547 18%
Con 62,007 17.9%
Lib 52,894 15.2%
All 21,164 6.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 347,134
MCs elected:
Cst
Nat
Prog"Another Illinois district, and a rural one this time, in the west of the state, rather than Chicago. Now Abraham Lincoln briefly represented a district in this geographical area, rather than just using the number-"
"My word, are you allowed to do that?"
"And, as we were saying, quite a diversity of colours on the map now. Mr Cruz's Constitution Party are in the lead, then the Nationals, then the Progressives just barely beat the Conservatives to the last seat."
"What do you think Abraham Lincoln would think to Ted Cruz?"
"Who can say. Well, who can say before the watershed, anyway. Besides, we don't even know what Mr Cruz's opinions on cheese are."
"Job for Emily Maitlis to find out, I think. And...a voice in my ear is telling me we've just about reached half of all seats declared now, so let's have an update on total seat numbers..."
Rich (BB code):
264 Lib
182 Nat
121 Prog
71 Con
29 Cst
24 Fus
0 All"Out of 691 seats declared, the Liberals are the clear leading party, but still have only uh...thirty-eight percent of all seats. And the Nationals in second. Not something anyone predicted." (Pregnant pause) "Then the Progressives in third. Also contrary to predictions, that Mr Sanders' party would be the only one to make three figures thus far. Of course, it depends on how one counts the Fusion candidates. The Conservatives along have seventy-one seats, but with the Fusionists would have ninety-five...er, which is still less than a hundred, isn't it? Or if you added the Fusionists to the Constitution Party, they'd have fifty-three...add all three of those right-wing parties together and they'd have one hundred and twenty-four."
"Which is slightly more than the Progressives, but still far fewer than the Nationals. Much of the right-wing vote in the United States has been captured by the populism and violent rhetoric of Mr Trump. One wonders what the reaction from the rest of the world will be."
"Well, regardless, we will not know what government is formed until the end of this election night - if then. In the meantime, stay with us on the BBC, and ignore the ominous tolling bell of doom in the background."
"Oh sorry, I forgot to put my phone on silent."
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["In The Hall of the Mountain King" plays gently from somewhere, slowly growing louder and louder]
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Well-known member
I love this
Off topic, but I can’t hear that without thinking of the old Alton Towers adverts.
What this seems to be leading to is enough Lib-Prog seats for a coalition but I say that before a massive twist showing the Nationals winning anyway I bet...
27 inc completed Ohio Indiana map
"I understand we may be able to speak to one of the party leaders shortly...but in the meantime, more results are coming in from the Midwest and Deep South."
"Another result from Ohio. The eighth district is in the west of the state, north of Cincinnati. Until recently, it was represented by John Boehner - don't laugh - the leader of the Republicans in the old House of Representatives."
"Another poll topped by the Conservatives, as we've seen several times in Ohio but rarely outside it."
"And Illinois' ninth district, another one in northern Chicago...another close fight between the Liberals and Progressives for first place."
"Yes, due to the third highest party - the Conservatives - not being close enough to be in contention, every vote matters a lot; if the Liberals are one vote ahead of the Progressives, they get two seats to the Progressives' one, and vice versa. With it being closer than expected in some urban centres like Chicago, the Progressives may end up pulling off some unexpected wins - as we already saw in Illinois' fourth district."
"Speaking of Progressive success, they top the polls in Michigan's sixth district, which is in the south-west, on the coast of Lake Michigan, and is centred on the city of Kalamazoo."
"Oh come on, that's just a magic word said by the fairy godmother in Cinderella, if you're going to make stuff up, at least make it plausible...and non-Disney-copyright-violating."
"No, really...anyway, that's almost a perfect dead heat between the Liberals and Conservatives in second and third, both taking a seat. Let's have a map update."
"Not as orange as the last time we looked at these states. An orange-green contrast is not something we've seen before, I think, with Nationals and Progressives fighting it out to top the polls."
"Probably there will also be some blue, at least, before the night is over, as the Liberals are predicted to top the polls in some urban districts...well, before tonight, most pollsters expected them to top them in all urban districts, on the other hand."
"No blue or green in Indiana's eighth district, though, once again the Nationals and Fusionists split the seats between them."
"This one is in the south-west, and it used to be called 'The Bloody Eighth'..."
"Katty, please, there are children accidentally tuning into this instead of repeats of whatever kids' show was big in 2016, I can't be bothered to check."
"...because it was a hotly-competed-for swing district. But this is another example of the realignment that happened in Appalachia and some adjacent areas, with the former Democratic voters mostly going Republican - on the old system. Now, at least that large right-wing bloc can show nuance within it via the multiple right-wing parties."
"An interesting mix in Louisiana's third district, which is another one along the Gulf Coast - including the city of Lafayette and that damn fiddly island that's a nightmare to colour in on maps."
"The Nationals and Constitution Party are fighting it out, reflecting the nature of different strands of the right here, while the Liberals get the third seat - again, gerrymandered borders will find it much harder to exclude minorities under this new system."
"And back to Ohio for the fifteenth district, in the south-central part of the state. Yet another win for the Conservatives, but this time it's the Progressives that get the third seat. The Nationals are excluded from representation at all."
"A curious result for quite a rural district that normally backed the Republicans under the old system - although President Obama did win the votes of this area in his 2008 presidential run - with the right sufficiently divided that the left-wing parties get more representation."
"And another lead for the Conservatives, but in a state where we've not seen it before...here in Alabama's sixth district, which takes in parts of Birmingham-"
"-don't remind me-"
"-the Conservatives narrowly beat out the Nationals, with the Liberals taking the third seat."
"Ah. A voice in my ear is telling me that the person we can speak to soon may be able to shed some insight into the Conservatives' successes...here, at least."
"You could kind of call this a Conservative success as well, sort of, as their fusion with the Constitution Party has beat the Nationals here in Indiana too. With the Progressives quite narrowly beating the Liberals to take the third seat."
"This takes in the area north of Indianapolis, and the northern parts of the city. It's the wealthiest part of Indiana."
"Yes, ironic that Donald Trump's message seems to appeal more to poorer right-wing voters than his own economic class, perhaps."
"A bit early to say. That's the last result from Indiana, though, which means we can also declare the statewide seats..."
"Well. Despite that success from the Fusionists there, the Nationals still lead in the Indianan state popular vote."
"Hoosier. Hoosier."
"...are you having a stroke?"
"No, that's the adjective for Indiana. Hoosier."
"...are they having a stroke?" (Muttered) "Never mind. Anyway, that's another two bonus seats for Mr Trump's party, after those we saw in Kentucky, Tennessee, and of course West Virginia. A concern perhaps, in the corridors of power."
"We shall see..."
"Well, we thought we'd see some blue on the Michigan map, and we do. A firm win for the Liberals in the thirteenth district, which takes in a substantial part of Detroit city centre."
"So they actually still have votes in Detroit? Pop culture taught me it was a burning desolate wasteland abandoned by humanity?"
"Don't be silly, it's gone way upmarket again since they got Robocop in."
"Oh, of course, silly me."
"Now this is our first result from Missouri..."
"Michigan! Mississippi! Missouri! America has too many states that start with Mi-. Please eliminate one. PS I am not a crank."
"We haven't even got to Minnesota yet...anyway, Missouri kind of sits at a cultural crossroads between different regions like the Upper South and the Midwest, and that's reflected here in a divided vote. Somewhat similar to the Louisiana district we just saw, it's a close fight between the Nationals and the Constitution Party, but the Progressives nab the third seat - showing the diversity of opinions here."
"Yes, Missouri will be a difficult one to call, as there's a lot of difference between different parts of it. It also shows that we're moving into new time zone polls-closure times and seeing new states again."
"And speaking of which, we're also in a position to finish states off, as we get the last result now from Ohio..."
"Quite different to most of the state. The eleventh district was gerrymandered to cram most of the BAME voters of Cleveland and Akron into one district. But unlike some such districts where all three seats have gone to the Liberals, here the Progressives manage to take the third seat."
"As you said, that's the last Ohio district, so we can now report the statewide vote..."
"That's something we've not seen before - the Conservatives topping the polls across a state and taking the top-up seats. Now, is this a turnaround for the more moderate of the right-wing parties (or at least the one everyone says is moderate, without actually doing much differently) or is it just a fluke?"
"It was pretty close. The Liberals almost took the lead. Remember Ohio did vote for President Obama in both 2008 and 2012, even though otherwise it's been trending towards the right."
"We can also show our completed map of Ohio and Indiana..."
"A sea of red in Ohio, and quite a bit of pink in Indiana...different to what we've seen elsewhere, to say the least."
"And a voice in my ear is telling me that we can now go to that person I was telling you about...yes, live from Grabbit and Runne's Memorial Hospital in Texas, Conservative Party leader, former Governor Jeb Bush!"
The screen flickered and resolved itself into a new image.
Rich (BB code):
OH-08
Con 100,334 29.3%
Nat 89,288 26%
Lib 57,432 16.8%
Prog 47,495 13.9%
Cst 33,598 9.8%
All 14,636 4.3%
Fus 0 0%
Total 342,785
MCs elected:
Con
Nat
Lib"Another result from Ohio. The eighth district is in the west of the state, north of Cincinnati. Until recently, it was represented by John Boehner - don't laugh - the leader of the Republicans in the old House of Representatives."
"Another poll topped by the Conservatives, as we've seen several times in Ohio but rarely outside it."
Rich (BB code):
IL-09
Lib 123,267 36.3%
Prog 114,829 33.8%
Con 38,425 11.3%
Nat 27,925 8.2%
Cst 18,105 5.3%
All 17,035 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 339,587
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"And Illinois' ninth district, another one in northern Chicago...another close fight between the Liberals and Progressives for first place."
"Yes, due to the third highest party - the Conservatives - not being close enough to be in contention, every vote matters a lot; if the Liberals are one vote ahead of the Progressives, they get two seats to the Progressives' one, and vice versa. With it being closer than expected in some urban centres like Chicago, the Progressives may end up pulling off some unexpected wins - as we already saw in Illinois' fourth district."
Rich (BB code):
MI-06
Prog 82,647 24.9%
Lib 59,658 18%
Con 59,647 18%
Cst 55,478 16.7%
Nat 55,189 16.6%
All 19,366 5.8%
Fus 0 0%
Total 331,986
MCs elected:
Prog
Lib
Con"Speaking of Progressive success, they top the polls in Michigan's sixth district, which is in the south-west, on the coast of Lake Michigan, and is centred on the city of Kalamazoo."
"Oh come on, that's just a magic word said by the fairy godmother in Cinderella, if you're going to make stuff up, at least make it plausible...and non-Disney-copyright-violating."
"No, really...anyway, that's almost a perfect dead heat between the Liberals and Conservatives in second and third, both taking a seat. Let's have a map update."
"Not as orange as the last time we looked at these states. An orange-green contrast is not something we've seen before, I think, with Nationals and Progressives fighting it out to top the polls."
"Probably there will also be some blue, at least, before the night is over, as the Liberals are predicted to top the polls in some urban districts...well, before tonight, most pollsters expected them to top them in all urban districts, on the other hand."
Rich (BB code):
IN-08
Nat 117,034 38.9%
Fus 77,285 25.7%
Prog 49,938 16.6%
Lib 42,953 14.3%
All 13,577 4.5%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 300,787
MCs elected:
Nat
Fus
Nat"No blue or green in Indiana's eighth district, though, once again the Nationals and Fusionists split the seats between them."
"This one is in the south-west, and it used to be called 'The Bloody Eighth'..."
"Katty, please, there are children accidentally tuning into this instead of repeats of whatever kids' show was big in 2016, I can't be bothered to check."
"...because it was a hotly-competed-for swing district. But this is another example of the realignment that happened in Appalachia and some adjacent areas, with the former Democratic voters mostly going Republican - on the old system. Now, at least that large right-wing bloc can show nuance within it via the multiple right-wing parties."
Rich (BB code):
LA-03
Nat 97,046 28.3%
Cst 89,584 26.1%
Lib 68,228 19.9%
Con 44,388 12.9%
Prog 32,013 9.3%
All 11,766 3.4%
Fus 0 0%
Total 343,025
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Lib"An interesting mix in Louisiana's third district, which is another one along the Gulf Coast - including the city of Lafayette and that damn fiddly island that's a nightmare to colour in on maps."
"The Nationals and Constitution Party are fighting it out, reflecting the nature of different strands of the right here, while the Liberals get the third seat - again, gerrymandered borders will find it much harder to exclude minorities under this new system."
Rich (BB code):
OH-15
Con 106,383 29.9%
Lib 72,040 20.3%
Prog 69,614 19.6%
Nat 60,934 17.1%
Cst 29,361 8.3%
All 17,058 4.8%
Fus 0 0%
Total 355,390
MCs elected:
Con
Lib
Prog"And back to Ohio for the fifteenth district, in the south-central part of the state. Yet another win for the Conservatives, but this time it's the Progressives that get the third seat. The Nationals are excluded from representation at all."
"A curious result for quite a rural district that normally backed the Republicans under the old system - although President Obama did win the votes of this area in his 2008 presidential run - with the right sufficiently divided that the left-wing parties get more representation."
Rich (BB code):
AL-06
Con 89,152 27%
Nat 86,600 26.3%
Lib 67,522 20.5%
Cst 57,741 17.5%
Prog 18,595 5.6%
All 10,239 3.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 329,849
MCs elected:
Con
Nat
Lib"And another lead for the Conservatives, but in a state where we've not seen it before...here in Alabama's sixth district, which takes in parts of Birmingham-"
"-don't remind me-"
"-the Conservatives narrowly beat out the Nationals, with the Liberals taking the third seat."
"Ah. A voice in my ear is telling me that the person we can speak to soon may be able to shed some insight into the Conservatives' successes...here, at least."
Rich (BB code):
IN-05
Fus 102,977 28.3%
Nat 90,045 24.8%
Prog 77,462 21.3%
Lib 72,633 20%
All 20,507 5.6%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 363,624
MCs elected:
Fus
Nat
Prog"You could kind of call this a Conservative success as well, sort of, as their fusion with the Constitution Party has beat the Nationals here in Indiana too. With the Progressives quite narrowly beating the Liberals to take the third seat."
"This takes in the area north of Indianapolis, and the northern parts of the city. It's the wealthiest part of Indiana."
"Yes, ironic that Donald Trump's message seems to appeal more to poorer right-wing voters than his own economic class, perhaps."
"A bit early to say. That's the last result from Indiana, though, which means we can also declare the statewide seats..."
Rich (BB code):
Indiana at-large
Nat 834,952 30.6%
Fus 722,469 26.5%
Prog 541,689 19.9%
Lib 491,514 18%
All 134,002 4.9%
Cst 0 0%
Con 0 0%
Total 2,724,626
MCs elected:
Nat
Nat"Well. Despite that success from the Fusionists there, the Nationals still lead in the Indianan state popular vote."
"Hoosier. Hoosier."
"...are you having a stroke?"
"No, that's the adjective for Indiana. Hoosier."
"...are they having a stroke?" (Muttered) "Never mind. Anyway, that's another two bonus seats for Mr Trump's party, after those we saw in Kentucky, Tennessee, and of course West Virginia. A concern perhaps, in the corridors of power."
"We shall see..."
Rich (BB code):
MI-13
Lib 137,587 51.9%
Prog 71,518 27%
Nat 23,669 8.9%
Con 14,616 5.5%
Cst 9,826 3.7%
All 8,127 3.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 265,343
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"Well, we thought we'd see some blue on the Michigan map, and we do. A firm win for the Liberals in the thirteenth district, which takes in a substantial part of Detroit city centre."
"So they actually still have votes in Detroit? Pop culture taught me it was a burning desolate wasteland abandoned by humanity?"
"Don't be silly, it's gone way upmarket again since they got Robocop in."
"Oh, of course, silly me."
Rich (BB code):
MO-06
Nat 91,803 25.9%
Cst 87,005 24.6%
Prog 59,126 16.7%
Lib 52,930 15%
Con 44,568 12.6%
All 18,583 5.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 354,014
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Prog"Now this is our first result from Missouri..."
"Michigan! Mississippi! Missouri! America has too many states that start with Mi-. Please eliminate one. PS I am not a crank."
"We haven't even got to Minnesota yet...anyway, Missouri kind of sits at a cultural crossroads between different regions like the Upper South and the Midwest, and that's reflected here in a divided vote. Somewhat similar to the Louisiana district we just saw, it's a close fight between the Nationals and the Constitution Party, but the Progressives nab the third seat - showing the diversity of opinions here."
"Yes, Missouri will be a difficult one to call, as there's a lot of difference between different parts of it. It also shows that we're moving into new time zone polls-closure times and seeing new states again."
"And speaking of which, we're also in a position to finish states off, as we get the last result now from Ohio..."
Rich (BB code):
OH-11
Lib 177,195 54.8%
Prog 83,103 25.7%
Con 34,252 10.6%
Nat 16,026 5%
All 7,985 2.5%
Cst 4,740 1.5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 323,301
MCs elected:
Lib
Lib
Prog"Quite different to most of the state. The eleventh district was gerrymandered to cram most of the BAME voters of Cleveland and Akron into one district. But unlike some such districts where all three seats have gone to the Liberals, here the Progressives manage to take the third seat."
"As you said, that's the last Ohio district, so we can now report the statewide vote..."
Rich (BB code):
Ohio at-large
Con 1,422,010 25.9%
Lib 1,356,511 24.8%
Prog 1,037,653 18.9%
Nat 1,019,596 18.6%
Cst 399,399 7.3%
All 245,004 4.5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 5,480,173
MCs elected:
Con
Con"That's something we've not seen before - the Conservatives topping the polls across a state and taking the top-up seats. Now, is this a turnaround for the more moderate of the right-wing parties (or at least the one everyone says is moderate, without actually doing much differently) or is it just a fluke?"
"It was pretty close. The Liberals almost took the lead. Remember Ohio did vote for President Obama in both 2008 and 2012, even though otherwise it's been trending towards the right."
"We can also show our completed map of Ohio and Indiana..."
"A sea of red in Ohio, and quite a bit of pink in Indiana...different to what we've seen elsewhere, to say the least."
"And a voice in my ear is telling me that we can now go to that person I was telling you about...yes, live from Grabbit and Runne's Memorial Hospital in Texas, Conservative Party leader, former Governor Jeb Bush!"
The screen flickered and resolved itself into a new image.
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Appearing on the screen was a bright white hospital ward, with the camera focused on a bed. In the bed, his eyes closed, was, indeed, Jeb Bush. A tube went into his nose for no apparent reason other than to make him look a bit like a Borg halfway through makeup, while sticking plasters (each prominently displaying the word BAND-AID™) covered various wounds on his hands and arms. They looked suspiciously like paper cuts. An IV drip went into his arm, but not before going through a machine that looked a lot like a petrol pump counter. Indeed, 'THIS SALE' was next to a $ sign and a rapidly scrolling array of digits. The only difference was that there did not seem to be a decimal point marker for cents, instead simply having a lowercase letter k at the end.
"Mr Bush," began the off-camera voice of Andrew Neil. "Mr Bush, are you awake?"
Another, equally familiar, face entered the screen and the camera belatedly focused on it. "I'm real sorry, Mister Neil, but my brother Jeb's had kind of a relapse." Former President George W. Bush hesitated. He was dressed in a short-sleeved shirt covered in small, multicoloured paint stains, and his hair had, strangely, been shaped into an afro. "I knew it was a bad idea to buy him a copy of Metal Gear Solid, seeing all those exclamation points made him come over all funny."
"Er..." Neil gamely rallied. "Very well, Mr Bush, would you be willing to talk to us about the Conservative Party's fortunes?"
"Sure thing." Bush frowned. "One thing I wanna make real clear, Mister Neil. You boys in the meedja been spreading all kinds of lies about my brother Jeb. And some of those ain't true. For a start, I say, whatever you say, he definitely does have the clap." Bush frowned. "I mean, he definitely doesn't. Please."
"We actually said earlier that, er, Mr Bush is not suffering from gonnorhea, Mr Bush. You may rest assured of that. But about the Conservative Party..."
"Yeah. Come with me. Walk and talk." George W. Bush walked away, the surprised cameraman following him, into an art studio that - improbably - was right next to the hospital ward. "Now what were you sayin'?"
"Uh - what do you have to say about the Conservatives' performance tonight?"
Bush frowned. "Well, I know you guys want to say this was a surprise. I say, we were ready for any and all unforeseen events that may or may not occur. If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. Let me tell you, this party shouldn't be misunderestimated."
"...and...er...what about the fusion with the Constitution Party in some states, what do you think of that?"
"We're working with our friends and allies on that," Bush said dismissively. "I hope we get to the bottom of the answer. Now, lemme see..."
He sat down at a partially-complete canvas and began working. It depicted a modern battle in a desert scene, with tanks and jets clashing. "What were you saying?"
"I...er..." Neil abandoned his plans. "Is that a depiction of the Iraq War you're painting there, Mr Bush?"
"Darn straight," Bush said, dabbing at it with his paintbrush. "I think war is a dangerous place."
"Er..." Neil went for the plunge. "And do you now concede that the Iraq War was a mistake?"
Bush gave a weary look to the camera. "Now, you know," he said in a suddenly softer voice. "There ain't no mistakes. Just happy accidents." He began painting a mushroom cloud in the background. "Now, let's paint a happy little bomb here..."
"Ahem," Neil said desperately, "what else do you paint here, Mr Bush?"
Bush finished the cloud and put the canvas aside. "Well, no disrespect to Barry Obammer, but I think the interweb's gone right downhill under him being in the White House," he said. "Old Al might claim to have invented it, Bill had his hampsterdance and his All Your Base, but what's Barry got? Old people on Facebook? Charlie Sheen autotunes? Those damnfool rage comics where everyone says derp all the time? That dog that's on fire that thinks everything's fine? Nobody thinks a dog being on fire is fine. Except Mitt Romney."
"Uh..."
"No, sir." Bush shook his head seriously. "No, my time was the peak for internets culture, history will say so." He gestured to a set of paintings. "So I'm daubing representations of some of those triumphs during my presidency. Look here. Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny - Mr Rogers in a bloodstained sweater. Windows Media Player skins that look like a green cyborg face. Big montage of webcomics where everyone's an anthropomorphised animal or an edited Mega Man pixel art sprite for no adequately explained reason. Homestar Runner riding a badger holding a mushroom into a snake. RealPlayer update popups. That's the cover art of The Immortal - the first video Let's Play, before that got RUINED by the mainstream..."
"Er..." Neil said, trying to get things back on track. "And what about that one facing against the wall, Mr Bush? The one with the text on the back - I think it says 'goats'?"
Bush proudly turned the painting around. "Now that's what I call a major-league asshole."
Mercifully, the feed cut out.
"Er...thank you to former President Bush for that...memorable interview." (Huskily) "Please let's get back to some results."
"Well, we have Wisconsin's first district here - another different colour splash on our map, because here the Constitution Party tops the poll."
"That's the south-eastern district, isn't it...and there was something else about it..."
"Yes, this is - I should say was - the home district of Paul Ryan, who was Mitt Romney's vice-presidential candidate in 2012. Now Mr Ryan was the Conservative candidate, so he has lost his seat - in fact he has come last, other than the Alliance. A great disappointment for him no doubt."
"Let's interview him too and rub it in - I doubt he has so many annular paintings."
"Quite. We'll get Emily on that, I think."
"Another new state reporting. This is Iowa's first district."
"Yes. Iowa is a farming state, and one of the few in America where the law basically forces relatively sensible district boundaries. There are four districts and the state is basically divided into quadrants. This is the north-eastern one. Politically speaking, the state has quite a diversity of opinions - being a rural farming state would usually favour the right, but various economic events in the 1980s tended to help the left."
"Of course, Iowa was also formerly noteworthy for being the first state to hold a presidential primary, or rather caucus, in the season. Some of that early focus and indecision seems to have carried on, as all the parties are quite close in terms of support. But it's the Liberals, Progressives and Constitution Party who just about come out on top, taking the three seats."
"Back to Missouri and another very right-wing district, but this one has the Constitution Party on top..."
"Yes, it's geographically in the south-west of the state, which is the part culturally most similar to the right-wing western states like Kansas. But I wouldn't be surprised if we see quite a lot of different colours in Missouri. And speaking of which, a map..."
"The right definitely looks favoured in those three states thus far, but we shall see."
"Quite different in Michigan's fifth district, where the Liberals take the first seat, followed by the Progressives and then the Nationals."
"Yes, this district includes the city of Flint, which according to its tourist brochure I have here, is a popular spa destination for the hydrophobes of the world...and the cholera bacterium. Wait, what-"
"Down to the Deep South now, and Mississippi's second district, in the west of the state, which follows the titular river-"
"-don't make me try to pronounce it-"
"-and is another one that was gerrymandered to put most of the BAME voters in one district. In this case, however, the Liberals don't quite get all three seats as we've seen in some other places - the Nationals get enough votes to just about take the third seat."
"Yes, the fact that a formerly ignored minority in a district is getting representation now...it does work both ways, doesn't it?"
"And in neighbouring Alabama, a very right-wing district in the north...even if the Nationals hadn't got the third seat, it would have gone to the Constitution Party instead. In fact, by some metrics it was formerly the most Republican district in the United States."
"Striking perhaps that its votes have gone more to Mr Trump's National Party than to the Conservatives, then. Perhaps we should have asked Mr B-"
"NO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE."
"Illinois' seventh district, another one taking in much of Chicago's centre...the Liberals are in first but, again, one seat goes to the Progressives."
"Let's update our Illinois map and see how many colours we have on that one..."
"Every colour except Conservative red...and Alliance yellow, of course."
"Yes, it does seem unlikely we're going to see the latter, but perhaps when we get to New Mexico, Gary Johnson's home state...we'll see."
"Michigan's ninth district, to the west of Detroit and taking in surrounding towns such as Troy...the Progressives in the lead over the Liberals once more, but the third seat goes to the Nationals."
"Back to Arkansas. This district takes in the state capital, Little Rock."
"What happened to-"
"Everyone has already done that joke. Anyway, this whole area had been trending away from the Democrats, but it looks like - whether it's Mrs Clinton's personal vote from her husband's time as Governor here, or just a divided right - the Liberals take the first seat. Unusually, the Conservatives and Constitution Party beat the Nationals to getting a seat themselves."
"And a similar case in Mississippi, where the third district - which favoured the Republicans under the old system - is actually won by the Liberals in first, with the other two seats going to the Nationals and the Constitution Party this time."
"That's our last Mississippi result - only four seats - so we can calculate the top-up statewide seats..."
"Well. As we were saying. That same effect that's happened in some districts has also happened across the whole state here. A divided right and a united left - mostly - mean that Mississippi's statewide vote, which was considered solidly Republican under the old system, now goes to the Liberals. Both top-up seats go to Mrs Clinton's party."
"Perhaps a relief to the Liberals after the Nationals have captured several statewide seats, as we've seen...no final map yet, as we're still waiting on the last Alabama result..."
"Mr Bush," began the off-camera voice of Andrew Neil. "Mr Bush, are you awake?"
Another, equally familiar, face entered the screen and the camera belatedly focused on it. "I'm real sorry, Mister Neil, but my brother Jeb's had kind of a relapse." Former President George W. Bush hesitated. He was dressed in a short-sleeved shirt covered in small, multicoloured paint stains, and his hair had, strangely, been shaped into an afro. "I knew it was a bad idea to buy him a copy of Metal Gear Solid, seeing all those exclamation points made him come over all funny."
"Er..." Neil gamely rallied. "Very well, Mr Bush, would you be willing to talk to us about the Conservative Party's fortunes?"
"Sure thing." Bush frowned. "One thing I wanna make real clear, Mister Neil. You boys in the meedja been spreading all kinds of lies about my brother Jeb. And some of those ain't true. For a start, I say, whatever you say, he definitely does have the clap." Bush frowned. "I mean, he definitely doesn't. Please."
"We actually said earlier that, er, Mr Bush is not suffering from gonnorhea, Mr Bush. You may rest assured of that. But about the Conservative Party..."
"Yeah. Come with me. Walk and talk." George W. Bush walked away, the surprised cameraman following him, into an art studio that - improbably - was right next to the hospital ward. "Now what were you sayin'?"
"Uh - what do you have to say about the Conservatives' performance tonight?"
Bush frowned. "Well, I know you guys want to say this was a surprise. I say, we were ready for any and all unforeseen events that may or may not occur. If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. Let me tell you, this party shouldn't be misunderestimated."
"...and...er...what about the fusion with the Constitution Party in some states, what do you think of that?"
"We're working with our friends and allies on that," Bush said dismissively. "I hope we get to the bottom of the answer. Now, lemme see..."
He sat down at a partially-complete canvas and began working. It depicted a modern battle in a desert scene, with tanks and jets clashing. "What were you saying?"
"I...er..." Neil abandoned his plans. "Is that a depiction of the Iraq War you're painting there, Mr Bush?"
"Darn straight," Bush said, dabbing at it with his paintbrush. "I think war is a dangerous place."
"Er..." Neil went for the plunge. "And do you now concede that the Iraq War was a mistake?"
Bush gave a weary look to the camera. "Now, you know," he said in a suddenly softer voice. "There ain't no mistakes. Just happy accidents." He began painting a mushroom cloud in the background. "Now, let's paint a happy little bomb here..."
"Ahem," Neil said desperately, "what else do you paint here, Mr Bush?"
Bush finished the cloud and put the canvas aside. "Well, no disrespect to Barry Obammer, but I think the interweb's gone right downhill under him being in the White House," he said. "Old Al might claim to have invented it, Bill had his hampsterdance and his All Your Base, but what's Barry got? Old people on Facebook? Charlie Sheen autotunes? Those damnfool rage comics where everyone says derp all the time? That dog that's on fire that thinks everything's fine? Nobody thinks a dog being on fire is fine. Except Mitt Romney."
"Uh..."
"No, sir." Bush shook his head seriously. "No, my time was the peak for internets culture, history will say so." He gestured to a set of paintings. "So I'm daubing representations of some of those triumphs during my presidency. Look here. Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny - Mr Rogers in a bloodstained sweater. Windows Media Player skins that look like a green cyborg face. Big montage of webcomics where everyone's an anthropomorphised animal or an edited Mega Man pixel art sprite for no adequately explained reason. Homestar Runner riding a badger holding a mushroom into a snake. RealPlayer update popups. That's the cover art of The Immortal - the first video Let's Play, before that got RUINED by the mainstream..."
"Er..." Neil said, trying to get things back on track. "And what about that one facing against the wall, Mr Bush? The one with the text on the back - I think it says 'goats'?"
Bush proudly turned the painting around. "Now that's what I call a major-league asshole."
Mercifully, the feed cut out.
Rich (BB code):
WI-01
Cst 95,080 26.7%
Prog 82,377 23.1%
Lib 68,059 19.1%
Nat 60,412 17%
Con 31,879 9%
All 18,153 5.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 355,961
MCs elected:
Cst
Prog
Lib"Er...thank you to former President Bush for that...memorable interview." (Huskily) "Please let's get back to some results."
"Well, we have Wisconsin's first district here - another different colour splash on our map, because here the Constitution Party tops the poll."
"That's the south-eastern district, isn't it...and there was something else about it..."
"Yes, this is - I should say was - the home district of Paul Ryan, who was Mitt Romney's vice-presidential candidate in 2012. Now Mr Ryan was the Conservative candidate, so he has lost his seat - in fact he has come last, other than the Alliance. A great disappointment for him no doubt."
"Let's interview him too and rub it in - I doubt he has so many annular paintings."
"Quite. We'll get Emily on that, I think."
Rich (BB code):
IA-01
Lib 89,749 23%
Prog 86,786 22.2%
Cst 71,551 18.3%
Nat 60,076 15.4%
Con 58,783 15%
All 23,989 6.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 390,934
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Cst"Another new state reporting. This is Iowa's first district."
"Yes. Iowa is a farming state, and one of the few in America where the law basically forces relatively sensible district boundaries. There are four districts and the state is basically divided into quadrants. This is the north-eastern one. Politically speaking, the state has quite a diversity of opinions - being a rural farming state would usually favour the right, but various economic events in the 1980s tended to help the left."
"Of course, Iowa was also formerly noteworthy for being the first state to hold a presidential primary, or rather caucus, in the season. Some of that early focus and indecision seems to have carried on, as all the parties are quite close in terms of support. But it's the Liberals, Progressives and Constitution Party who just about come out on top, taking the three seats."
Rich (BB code):
MO-07
Cst 120,740 35.3%
Nat 86,692 25.3%
Prog 50,032 14.6%
Lib 34,387 10.1%
Con 33,258 9.7%
All 16,961 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 342,069
MCs elected:
Cst
Nat
Cst"Back to Missouri and another very right-wing district, but this one has the Constitution Party on top..."
"Yes, it's geographically in the south-west of the state, which is the part culturally most similar to the right-wing western states like Kansas. But I wouldn't be surprised if we see quite a lot of different colours in Missouri. And speaking of which, a map..."
"The right definitely looks favoured in those three states thus far, but we shall see."
Rich (BB code):
MI-05
Lib 86,713 26.5%
Prog 76,249 23.3%
Nat 66,632 20.3%
Con 42,786 13.1%
Cst 39,553 12.1%
All 15,639 4.8%
Fus 0 0%
Total 327,573
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Nat"Quite different in Michigan's fifth district, where the Liberals take the first seat, followed by the Progressives and then the Nationals."
"Yes, this district includes the city of Flint, which according to its tourist brochure I have here, is a popular spa destination for the hydrophobes of the world...and the cholera bacterium. Wait, what-"
Rich (BB code):
MS-02
Lib 160,826 55.6%
Nat 55,047 19%
Cst 30,750 10.6%
Prog 24,382 8.4%
Con 14,437 5%
All 3,827 1.3%
Fus 0 0%
Total 289,269
MCs elected:
Lib
Lib
Nat"Down to the Deep South now, and Mississippi's second district, in the west of the state, which follows the titular river-"
"-don't make me try to pronounce it-"
"-and is another one that was gerrymandered to put most of the BAME voters in one district. In this case, however, the Liberals don't quite get all three seats as we've seen in some other places - the Nationals get enough votes to just about take the third seat."
"Yes, the fact that a formerly ignored minority in a district is getting representation now...it does work both ways, doesn't it?"
Rich (BB code):
AL-04
Nat 114,137 39.3%
Con 73,991 25.5%
Cst 45,534 15.7%
Lib 38,975 13.4%
Prog 11,747 4%
All 6,342 2.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 290,726
MCs elected:
Nat
Con
Nat"And in neighbouring Alabama, a very right-wing district in the north...even if the Nationals hadn't got the third seat, it would have gone to the Constitution Party instead. In fact, by some metrics it was formerly the most Republican district in the United States."
"Striking perhaps that its votes have gone more to Mr Trump's National Party than to the Conservatives, then. Perhaps we should have asked Mr B-"
"NO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE."
Rich (BB code):
IL-07
Lib 166,500 53.7%
Prog 104,600 33.7%
Con 14,320 4.6%
All 10,479 3.4%
Nat 8,805 2.8%
Cst 5,456 1.8%
Fus 0 0%
Total 310,159
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"Illinois' seventh district, another one taking in much of Chicago's centre...the Liberals are in first but, again, one seat goes to the Progressives."
"Let's update our Illinois map and see how many colours we have on that one..."
"Every colour except Conservative red...and Alliance yellow, of course."
"Yes, it does seem unlikely we're going to see the latter, but perhaps when we get to New Mexico, Gary Johnson's home state...we'll see."
Rich (BB code):
MI-09
Prog 93,690 26.3%
Lib 89,395 25.1%
Nat 70,511 19.8%
Con 59,422 16.7%
Cst 25,664 7.2%
All 17,069 4.8%
Fus 0 0%
Total 355,751
MCs elected:
Prog
Lib
Nat"Michigan's ninth district, to the west of Detroit and taking in surrounding towns such as Troy...the Progressives in the lead over the Liberals once more, but the third seat goes to the Nationals."
Rich (BB code):
AR-02
Lib 93,596 30.5%
Con 58,161 18.9%
Cst 53,543 17.4%
Nat 49,078 16%
Prog 34,287 11.2%
All 18,309 6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 306,974
MCs elected:
Lib
Con
Cst"Back to Arkansas. This district takes in the state capital, Little Rock."
"What happened to-"
"Everyone has already done that joke. Anyway, this whole area had been trending away from the Democrats, but it looks like - whether it's Mrs Clinton's personal vote from her husband's time as Governor here, or just a divided right - the Liberals take the first seat. Unusually, the Conservatives and Constitution Party beat the Nationals to getting a seat themselves."
Rich (BB code):
MS-03
Lib 100,424 31.3%
Nat 97,445 30.4%
Cst 69,987 21.8%
Con 27,992 8.7%
Prog 18,684 5.8%
All 6,218 1.9%
Fus 0 0%
Total 320,750
MCs elected:
Lib
Nat
Cst"And a similar case in Mississippi, where the third district - which favoured the Republicans under the old system - is actually won by the Liberals in first, with the other two seats going to the Nationals and the Constitution Party this time."
"That's our last Mississippi result - only four seats - so we can calculate the top-up statewide seats..."
Rich (BB code):
Mississippi at-large
Lib 402,603 33.5%
Nat 338,836 28.2%
Cst 255,178 21.2%
Con 98,801 8.2%
Prog 82,528 6.9%
All 23,512 2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 1,201,458
MCs elected:
Lib
Lib"Well. As we were saying. That same effect that's happened in some districts has also happened across the whole state here. A divided right and a united left - mostly - mean that Mississippi's statewide vote, which was considered solidly Republican under the old system, now goes to the Liberals. Both top-up seats go to Mrs Clinton's party."
"Perhaps a relief to the Liberals after the Nationals have captured several statewide seats, as we've seen...no final map yet, as we're still waiting on the last Alabama result..."
29 inc Alabama Mississippi maps complete
"Let's see if we can't get those states completed before we go to the next guest..."
"More political diversity in Wisconsin. This large, rural district in the north-west gives a seat each to the Nationals and the Constitution Party, but interestingly, the Progressives take third."
"The rural Midwest was one of the historical strongholds of the original Progressive movement, from a century ago. Perhaps we are now seeing the release of a rural voice on the left that takes a very different form from the urban one which has grown more dominant within the Democrats, and is now expressed in the Liberals."
"But, of course, this isn't to say that we haven't seen substantial Progressive support in the cities too. This first district in Illinois takes in much of the South Side of Chicago, then spirals out to a place called Joliet."
"This is a BAME majority district, and where President Obama formerly lived, as it happens."
"Back to Louisiana, and the fifth district follows the Mississippi river, on the other bank from the Mississippi...state, I mean...district we just saw. A narrow lead for the Liberals, but two seats go to the right, the Nationals and Constitution Party respectively."
"Both seem to have more support here than the Conservatives, unlike some of the other states we've seen recently...well, some."
"Wisconsin again, this time with a purple splash on the map. The eighth district is in the northeast of the state, on the coast of Lake Michigan. In fact the central settlement is Green Bay, best known for its American football team, the Green Bay Packers."
"...what exactly do they pack?"
"Meat, originally. Look it up."
"I will, while we update the map."
"I thought you just did that...anyway, once again, every colour on the map except red. And yellow."
"Arkansas' third district is in the northwest of the state, and was formerly represented by Yorkshire comedian Steve Womack. Have you heard the one about how the Luftwaffe bombed Attercliffe continuously for six years during the war, and did eight quid's worth of damage?"
"...I think that may be a different Steve Womack. Also he's been re-elected, as he was the Conservative candidate."
"Unlike Paul Ryan. In fact this is a rare case of the three seats going to all three right-wing parties, but the Conservative being in the lead. People must really like his jokes about doing a wee in the sink."
"I - let's move on."
"Illinois' twelfth district is in the southwest of the state, just over the border from the city of Saint Louis in Missouri."
"Yes, there used to be a bit of an ancestral Democratic vote here, but it's been trending away for a while, and the district was consideredb asically even under the old political landscape. Here, it's once again closely divided - the Nationals take the lead, but it's quite a fight between the Liberals, Constitution Party and Progressives for the remaining two seats."
"Another of the unusual combinations we've seen in Wisconsin. This western district covers a big part of what is known as the Driftless Area..."
"That feels vaguely insulting but I can't say exactly why."
"It's to do with the lack of drumlins."
"Oh, I do hope they at least used anaesthetic."
"...anyway, this was another even district under the old landscape, so certainly not one that any party would ever fail to stand a candidate for and then not have a hope of winning even as their presidential candidate actually won its votes," (cough) "but under the new system, the Progressives are in the lead, but the other two seats go to the Nationals and Constitution Party, with the Liberals losing out."
"Another example of rural progressivism perhaps, though there are some sizeable towns in the district.
"And that's the final district from Alabama - a narrow National win over the Liberals, with the Conservatives in third. Still a better performance for them than in many states tonight."
"Which means we can issue the statewide top-up seats too..."
"Well, that's a shock. Alabama, a state which has been firmly in the hands of the right for many years, just narrowly gives the Liberals the lead over the Nationals."
"With a plurality of barely more than one-quarter of the vote...but some in Congress wanted a winner bonus, and they've got one. Maybe not benefiting the party they wanted, though.
"Let's look at the final map..."
"Quite remarkable. In Mississippi the Liberals topped the vote in two out of four districts and won the statewide popular vote - not too far-fetched, perhaps. But in Alabama..."
"Just one of the districts had a Liberal lead. Yet the Liberals had enough strength elsewhere, while the Nationals and Conservatives fought over the right-wing vote and the Progressives were not in contention...across the state, they take the win."
"There will be some angry people in the Deep South tonight. Good thing they don't have a history of political violence and can easily obtain firearms, eh?"
"...can we go back to the Midwest please?"
Rich (BB code):
WI-07
Nat 100,404 27.1%
Cst 84,236 22.8%
Prog 79,657 21.5%
Lib 58,217 15.7%
Con 28,827 7.8%
All 18,500 5%
Fus 0 0%
Total 369,841
MCs elected:
Nat
Cst
Prog"More political diversity in Wisconsin. This large, rural district in the north-west gives a seat each to the Nationals and the Constitution Party, but interestingly, the Progressives take third."
"The rural Midwest was one of the historical strongholds of the original Progressive movement, from a century ago. Perhaps we are now seeing the release of a rural voice on the left that takes a very different form from the urban one which has grown more dominant within the Democrats, and is now expressed in the Liberals."
Rich (BB code):
IL-01
Lib 148,012 45.4%
Prog 97,896 30%
Nat 33,160 10.2%
Con 18,985 5.8%
Cst 17,811 5.5%
All 10,312 3.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 326,175
MCs elected:
Lib
Prog
Lib"But, of course, this isn't to say that we haven't seen substantial Progressive support in the cities too. This first district in Illinois takes in much of the South Side of Chicago, then spirals out to a place called Joliet."
"This is a BAME majority district, and where President Obama formerly lived, as it happens."
Rich (BB code):
LA-05
Lib 87,631 27.1%
Nat 86,547 26.8%
Cst 80,244 24.8%
Con 38,467 11.9%
Prog 22,628 7%
All 7,892 2.4%
Fus 0 0%
Total 323,409
MCs elected:
Lib
Nat
Cst"Back to Louisiana, and the fifth district follows the Mississippi river, on the other bank from the Mississippi...state, I mean...district we just saw. A narrow lead for the Liberals, but two seats go to the right, the Nationals and Constitution Party respectively."
"Both seem to have more support here than the Conservatives, unlike some of the other states we've seen recently...well, some."
Rich (BB code):
WI-08
Cst 100,507 27.2%
Nat 82,259 22.3%
Prog 82,008 22.2%
Lib 60,669 16.4%
Con 24,854 6.7%
All 19,265 5.2%
Fus 0 0%
Total 369,562
MCs elected:
Cst
Nat
Prog"Wisconsin again, this time with a purple splash on the map. The eighth district is in the northeast of the state, on the coast of Lake Michigan. In fact the central settlement is Green Bay, best known for its American football team, the Green Bay Packers."
"...what exactly do they pack?"
"Meat, originally. Look it up."
"I will, while we update the map."
"I thought you just did that...anyway, once again, every colour on the map except red. And yellow."
Rich (BB code):
AR-03
Con 61,467 21%
Nat 60,898 20.8%
Cst 58,556 20%
Lib 49,055 16.8%
Prog 40,026 13.7%
All 22,161 7.6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 292,163
MCs elected:
Con
Nat
Cst"Arkansas' third district is in the northwest of the state, and was formerly represented by Yorkshire comedian Steve Womack. Have you heard the one about how the Luftwaffe bombed Attercliffe continuously for six years during the war, and did eight quid's worth of damage?"
"...I think that may be a different Steve Womack. Also he's been re-elected, as he was the Conservative candidate."
"Unlike Paul Ryan. In fact this is a rare case of the three seats going to all three right-wing parties, but the Conservative being in the lead. People must really like his jokes about doing a wee in the sink."
"I - let's move on."
Rich (BB code):
IL-12
Nat 75,668 24%
Lib 66,106 20.9%
Cst 64,982 20.6%
Prog 60,711 19.2%
Con 33,043 10.5%
All 15,336 4.9%
Fus 0 0%
Total 315,846
MCs elected:
Nat
Lib
Cst"Illinois' twelfth district is in the southwest of the state, just over the border from the city of Saint Louis in Missouri."
"Yes, there used to be a bit of an ancestral Democratic vote here, but it's been trending away for a while, and the district was consideredb asically even under the old political landscape. Here, it's once again closely divided - the Nationals take the lead, but it's quite a fight between the Liberals, Constitution Party and Progressives for the remaining two seats."
Rich (BB code):
WI-03
Prog 98,901 27.5%
Nat 76,315 21.2%
Cst 72,313 20.1%
Lib 62,098 17.3%
Con 28,544 7.9%
All 21,384 5.9%
Fus 0 0%
Total 359,555
MCs elected:
Prog
Nat
Cst"Another of the unusual combinations we've seen in Wisconsin. This western district covers a big part of what is known as the Driftless Area..."
"That feels vaguely insulting but I can't say exactly why."
"It's to do with the lack of drumlins."
"Oh, I do hope they at least used anaesthetic."
"...anyway, this was another even district under the old landscape, so certainly not one that any party would ever fail to stand a candidate for and then not have a hope of winning even as their presidential candidate actually won its votes," (cough) "but under the new system, the Progressives are in the lead, but the other two seats go to the Nationals and Constitution Party, with the Liberals losing out."
"Another example of rural progressivism perhaps, though there are some sizeable towns in the district.
Rich (BB code):
AL-02
Nat 84,679 29.6%
Lib 81,885 28.7%
Con 62,428 21.9%
Cst 38,398 13.4%
Prog 12,414 4.3%
All 5,859 2.1%
Fus 0 0%
Total 285,664
MCs elected:
Nat
Lib
Con"And that's the final district from Alabama - a narrow National win over the Liberals, with the Conservatives in third. Still a better performance for them than in many states tonight."
"Which means we can issue the statewide top-up seats too..."
Rich (BB code):
Alabama
Lib 584,495 27.8%
Nat 575,938 27.4%
Con 463,821 22.1%
Cst 278,496 13.3%
Prog 145,052 6.9%
All 53,858 2.6%
Fus 0 0%
Total 2,101,660
MCs elected:
Lib
Lib"Well, that's a shock. Alabama, a state which has been firmly in the hands of the right for many years, just narrowly gives the Liberals the lead over the Nationals."
"With a plurality of barely more than one-quarter of the vote...but some in Congress wanted a winner bonus, and they've got one. Maybe not benefiting the party they wanted, though.
"Let's look at the final map..."
"Quite remarkable. In Mississippi the Liberals topped the vote in two out of four districts and won the statewide popular vote - not too far-fetched, perhaps. But in Alabama..."
"Just one of the districts had a Liberal lead. Yet the Liberals had enough strength elsewhere, while the Nationals and Conservatives fought over the right-wing vote and the Progressives were not in contention...across the state, they take the win."
"There will be some angry people in the Deep South tonight. Good thing they don't have a history of political violence and can easily obtain firearms, eh?"
"...can we go back to the Midwest please?"
That last bit was meant to be appended to the segment before but I got interrupted and didn't want to leave it in the site's memory bank.
Trying to get more done (that's the last for this weekend) so I can try to finish before the actual midterms, or else it'll get way too confusing.
Trying to get more done (that's the last for this weekend) so I can try to finish before the actual midterms, or else it'll get way too confusing.
Walpurgisnacht
It was in the Year of Maximum Danger
- Location
- Banned from the forum
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Instructions unclear, Ulster blood is Scott Walker's most priceless heritage.
Bush makes a good argument about the internet.
(Alabama narrowly going blue, yes hahaha YES!)
(Alabama narrowly going blue, yes hahaha YES!)