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Airesien's Test Thread
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Heh. Been meaning to revamp and redo that one, after I can get a proper grip on the actual geopolitical implications of Halifax bungling the war. It'll probably also have Labour end up resembling its Australian counterpart, with more defined left and right-wing factions and power struggles coming along factional lines.
1970–1978: Edward Heath (Conservative)
1970 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1978–1980: Michael Foot (Labour)
1978 (Minority) def. Edward Heath (Conservative), Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1980–1989: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative)
1980 (Majority) def. Michael Foot (Labour), Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1984 (Majority) def. Denis Healey (Labour), Roy Jenkins & Stephen Ross (Social Democratic–Liberal Alliance)
1989–1990: Peter Walker (Conservative)
1989 (Minority with UUP support) def. John Smith (Labour), Roy Jenkins & Stephen Ross (Social Democratic–Liberal Alliance)
1990–1996: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1991 (Majority) def. John Smith (Labour), David Penhaligon (Democratic)
1996–: Frank Dobson (Labour)
1996 (Coalition with Democratic) def. Michael Heseltine (Conservative), David Penhaligon (Democratic), Alan Sked (British Independence)
1970 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1978–1980: Michael Foot (Labour)
1978 (Minority) def. Edward Heath (Conservative), Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1980–1989: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative)
1980 (Majority) def. Michael Foot (Labour), Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1984 (Majority) def. Denis Healey (Labour), Roy Jenkins & Stephen Ross (Social Democratic–Liberal Alliance)
1989–1990: Peter Walker (Conservative)
1989 (Minority with UUP support) def. John Smith (Labour), Roy Jenkins & Stephen Ross (Social Democratic–Liberal Alliance)
1990–1996: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1991 (Majority) def. John Smith (Labour), David Penhaligon (Democratic)
1996–: Frank Dobson (Labour)
1996 (Coalition with Democratic) def. Michael Heseltine (Conservative), David Penhaligon (Democratic), Alan Sked (British Independence)
1979–1982: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Majority) def. James Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
1982–1984: Edward du Cann (Conservative)
1984–1991: Tony Benn (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Edward du Cann (Conservative), David Steel & Roy Jenkins (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1988 (Majority) def. Nicholas Ridley (Conservative), Alan Beith & David Owen (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1991–1993: John Smith (Labour)
1993–2001: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1993 (Majority) def. John Smith (Labour), Alan Beith (Social and Liberal Democrats), David Owen (Democratic)
1997 (Majority) def. Robin Cook (Labour), Alan Beith (Centre), Alan Sked (Democratic)
2001–2007: Kenneth Clarke (Conservative)
2002 (Majority) def. Robin Cook (Labour), Menzies Campbell (Centre), Robert Kilroy-Silk (Democratic)
2007–: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007 (Coalition with Centre) def. Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), Tavish Scott (Centre), Craig Mackinlay (Democratic)
1979 (Majority) def. James Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
1982–1984: Edward du Cann (Conservative)
1984–1991: Tony Benn (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Edward du Cann (Conservative), David Steel & Roy Jenkins (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1988 (Majority) def. Nicholas Ridley (Conservative), Alan Beith & David Owen (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1991–1993: John Smith (Labour)
1993–2001: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1993 (Majority) def. John Smith (Labour), Alan Beith (Social and Liberal Democrats), David Owen (Democratic)
1997 (Majority) def. Robin Cook (Labour), Alan Beith (Centre), Alan Sked (Democratic)
2001–2007: Kenneth Clarke (Conservative)
2002 (Majority) def. Robin Cook (Labour), Menzies Campbell (Centre), Robert Kilroy-Silk (Democratic)
2007–: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007 (Coalition with Centre) def. Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), Tavish Scott (Centre), Craig Mackinlay (Democratic)
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Alan Beith Level: High.
I have read his autobiography twice and am yet to fully understand why he of all people wanted a merger.
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He has the energy of ‘well I want the Liberals to be popular and strong, but you know not by changing anything about the party’.
Also does the Autbio have any good PoDs?
I can't remember any at the moment and I'm rearranging my bookshelves so it's currently at the bottom of a crate, sorry. I can tell you that he (wrongly) thought that he would have won Berwick regardless of the by-election by continuously working it with a 1980 estimate.
Shadow Cabinet of Rebecca Long-Bailey
As of October 2023
As of October 2023
| Leader of the Labour Party Leader of the Opposition | Rebecca Long-Bailey (Salford and Eccles) |
| Deputy Leader of the Labour Party Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities | Angela Rayner (Ashton-under-Lyne) |
| Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer | Dan Carden (Liverpool Walton) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs | Clive Lewis (Norwich South) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for the Home Department | Louise Haigh (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Justice | Barry Gardiner (Brent North) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Defence | Peter Dowd (Bootle) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology | Cat Smith (Lancaster and Fleetwood) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero | Rachael Maskell (York Central) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Trade | Richard Burgon (Leeds East) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions | Alex Norris (Nottingham North) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care | Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Education | Olivia Blake (Sheffield Hallam) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport | Sharon Hodgson (Washington and Sunderland West) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities | Paula Barker (Liverpool Wavertree) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs | Andy McDonald (Middlesbrough) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Transport | Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi (Slough) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland | Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland | Grahame Morris (Easington) |
| Shadow Secretary of State for Wales | Ruth Jones (Newport West) |
| Chair of the Labour Party National Campaign Coordinator | Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) |
| Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster | Tony Lloyd (Rochdale) |
Also attending shadow cabinet meetings:
| Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury | Sam Tarry (Ilford South) |
| Shadow Attorney General for England and Wales | Imran Hussain (Bradford East) |
| Shadow Leader of the House of Commons | Gill Furniss (Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough) |
| Opposition Chief Whip in the House of Commons | Mohammad Yasin (Bedford) |
| Shadow Leader of the House of Lords | Baroness Smith of Basildon |
| Opposition Chief Whip in the House of Lords | Lord McAvoy of Rutherglen |
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Is it bad that I really like that Shadow Cabinet? Very, very good stuff.
One thing though, Tony Lloyd stood down for health reasons and from what I recall had/s long COVID
Is the PoD before or after the 2019 election? I assume before and with a different result if Corbyn's the National Campaign Coordinator.
Good point, I wasn’t sure whether he would have recovered enough by now to be Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.
The result is the same - Corbyn suggested he wanted to be Shadow Foreign Sec I think during the leadership contest, and I think Long-Bailey would have offered him a role, but perhaps not such a huge role as she’s keen to try and bring new talent through the Shadow Cab.
1963–1969: Reginald Maulding (Conservative)
1964 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1969–1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1969 (Majority) def. Reginald Maulding (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974–1982: Edward du Cann (Conservative)
1974 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1978 (Minority w/ Liberal support) def. Michael Foot (Labour), John Pardoe (Liberal), William Wolfe (SNP)
1980 (Majority) def. Michael Foot (Labour), Gordon Wilson (SNP), John Pardoe (Liberal)
1982–1983: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative)
1983–1985: William Whitelaw (Conservative)
1985–1993: David Owen (Labour)
Mar. 1985 (Minority) def. William Whitelaw (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal)
Sep. 1985 (Majority) def. William Whitelaw (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal)
1989 (Majority) def. Michael Heseltine (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal), Alan Clark (British National)
1993–1994: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1994–: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1994 (Coalition with Liberal) def. Neil Kinnock (Labour), Alan Beith (Liberal), Teddy Taylor (British National)
1964 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1969–1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1969 (Majority) def. Reginald Maulding (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974–1982: Edward du Cann (Conservative)
1974 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1978 (Minority w/ Liberal support) def. Michael Foot (Labour), John Pardoe (Liberal), William Wolfe (SNP)
1980 (Majority) def. Michael Foot (Labour), Gordon Wilson (SNP), John Pardoe (Liberal)
1982–1983: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative)
1983–1985: William Whitelaw (Conservative)
1985–1993: David Owen (Labour)
Mar. 1985 (Minority) def. William Whitelaw (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal)
Sep. 1985 (Majority) def. William Whitelaw (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal)
1989 (Majority) def. Michael Heseltine (Conservative), Geraint Howells (Liberal), Alan Clark (British National)
1993–1994: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1994–: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1994 (Coalition with Liberal) def. Neil Kinnock (Labour), Alan Beith (Liberal), Teddy Taylor (British National)
2010–2016: David Cameron (Conservative)
2010 (Coalition with Liberal Democrat) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2016–2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative)
2021 (Minority with UKIP and DUP support) def. Andy Burnham (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Steven Woolfe (UKIP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
2022–2023: Kit Malthouse (Conservative)
2023–0000: Andy Burnham (Labour)
2023 (Minority with Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru and SDLP support) def. Kit Malthouse (Conservative), Neil Gray (Scottish National), Steven Woolfe (UKIP), Alistair Carmichael (Liberal Democrat)
Corbyn is kept off the Labour leadership ballot in 2015 by not having enough nominations and Burnham easily wins the leadership election. This butterflies away Brexit, with the UK voting to - by 0.4 percentage points - remain in the EU. Cameron tries to stay on in his moment of 'triumph' but misreads the mood of the party, many of whom are furious at the referendum result, and he is forced to stand down within the month. Boris marches to an easy victory, pledging a 'referendum lock' on any future treaties, with the British public offered the chance to vote to leave at these occasions as well. He initially has a decent honeymoon over Burnham, but resists the urge to call an early election, and comes to regret that decision as the Tories continue to leak support to a thriving UKIP, now led by Steven Woolfe.
The pandemic hits in 2020 as it did in OTL and Boris handles it much the same way, although he doesn't benefit from a vaccine bounce with the UK still in the EU and not really getting any sort of head start on its rollout. The 2020 election is postponed for a year as the locals were in OTL and takes place in May 2021. Polls generally show the Tories marginally ahead of Labour, but with both parties losing support to smaller parties compared to 2015, and in the end the Tories are the largest party in a hung parliament. Boris seals confidence and supply arrangements with UKIP and the DUP in return for money for NI and some concessions on lockdown measures, which UKIP have come out resolutely against.
A similar scandal to Partygate occurs and trust in Boris is permanently damaged and his days are numbered. Several other blunders and a sinking in the polls sees him forced out by MPs and replaced by his Home Secretary Kit Malthouse, who promises a new fresh style of leadership to win the support of MPs and party members. Malthouse struggles to do much to turn around the party's fortunes, however, and by-election defeats mean the party is finding it increasingly difficult to govern as a minority administration. He decides to grasp the nettle before the Government can be brought down and Labour instead emerges as the largest party in a hung parliament two years on from the previous election. The wacky parliamentary arithmetic is much the same and Burnham is forced to cobble together a minority government with support from the Lib Dems, Plaid and their NI partners the SDLP.
2010 (Coalition with Liberal Democrat) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2016–2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative)
2021 (Minority with UKIP and DUP support) def. Andy Burnham (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Steven Woolfe (UKIP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
2022–2023: Kit Malthouse (Conservative)
2023–0000: Andy Burnham (Labour)
2023 (Minority with Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru and SDLP support) def. Kit Malthouse (Conservative), Neil Gray (Scottish National), Steven Woolfe (UKIP), Alistair Carmichael (Liberal Democrat)
Corbyn is kept off the Labour leadership ballot in 2015 by not having enough nominations and Burnham easily wins the leadership election. This butterflies away Brexit, with the UK voting to - by 0.4 percentage points - remain in the EU. Cameron tries to stay on in his moment of 'triumph' but misreads the mood of the party, many of whom are furious at the referendum result, and he is forced to stand down within the month. Boris marches to an easy victory, pledging a 'referendum lock' on any future treaties, with the British public offered the chance to vote to leave at these occasions as well. He initially has a decent honeymoon over Burnham, but resists the urge to call an early election, and comes to regret that decision as the Tories continue to leak support to a thriving UKIP, now led by Steven Woolfe.
The pandemic hits in 2020 as it did in OTL and Boris handles it much the same way, although he doesn't benefit from a vaccine bounce with the UK still in the EU and not really getting any sort of head start on its rollout. The 2020 election is postponed for a year as the locals were in OTL and takes place in May 2021. Polls generally show the Tories marginally ahead of Labour, but with both parties losing support to smaller parties compared to 2015, and in the end the Tories are the largest party in a hung parliament. Boris seals confidence and supply arrangements with UKIP and the DUP in return for money for NI and some concessions on lockdown measures, which UKIP have come out resolutely against.
A similar scandal to Partygate occurs and trust in Boris is permanently damaged and his days are numbered. Several other blunders and a sinking in the polls sees him forced out by MPs and replaced by his Home Secretary Kit Malthouse, who promises a new fresh style of leadership to win the support of MPs and party members. Malthouse struggles to do much to turn around the party's fortunes, however, and by-election defeats mean the party is finding it increasingly difficult to govern as a minority administration. He decides to grasp the nettle before the Government can be brought down and Labour instead emerges as the largest party in a hung parliament two years on from the previous election. The wacky parliamentary arithmetic is much the same and Burnham is forced to cobble together a minority government with support from the Lib Dems, Plaid and their NI partners the SDLP.
45. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2017–2021
2016 with Tim Kaine (D-VA) def. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
298-240 EVs
46. Donald Trump (R-FL) 2021–2025
2020 with Ben Carson (R-MI) def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
275-263 EVs
47. Michelle Obama (D-MA) 2025–????
2024 with Michael Bennett (D-CO) def. Donald Trump (R-FL)/Ben Carson (R-MI)
303–235 EVs
2016 with Tim Kaine (D-VA) def. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
298-240 EVs
46. Donald Trump (R-FL) 2021–2025
2020 with Ben Carson (R-MI) def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
275-263 EVs
47. Michelle Obama (D-MA) 2025–????
2024 with Michael Bennett (D-CO) def. Donald Trump (R-FL)/Ben Carson (R-MI)
303–235 EVs
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Michelle and Michael Bennett in 2024 after one Trump term and the 303 map