King_Arthur
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This is a controversial topic, so discussion should be focused on the scenario and not on OTL Israel or Irish Republicanism.
Basically my scenario is what if a kind of Irish Zionism developed in the 19th Century. They have a big enough diaspora for it and say Nativists come to power in the US while Gladstone gets Home Rule through an Ireland is doing pretty well. You could definitely get some nostalgia for the old country and people wanting to return to Ireland.
Say some wealthy Irish-Americans began funding boats from Boston to New York to a new port established on the Shannon called Hibernia, which will be our Tel Aviv. This happens and leads to increased tensions between the Protestants and Catholics. After a long conflict, a deal is made where that the UK will keep Ulster (all of it), a strip down the east coast and Dublin, while the State of Eire gets the rest.
The Zirishists (yes I know that word is an abomination) import millions of Irish-Americans like the Zionists did in the late 40s and a version of the 1948 War happens, with Ireland taking the coastal strip, half of Dublin and large parts of Ulster. Lot's of Protestants flee to Glasgow and Liverpool where they form a diaspora.
In the 60s, the Ulster Liberation Organisation (original I know) with Ian Paisley (our Arafat) as the boss. They manage to provoke a version of the Six Day War which is a lot smaller in scale and probably fought mainly with paras, with the UK providing air and naval support (or not if we're going full Bay of Pigs). Ireland wins and occupies the entire island, with more Protestants fleeing.
An expy of Lebanon doesn't really make much sense so we'll skip it. Ireland here is more theocratic than Israel was, as the Catholic Church is a lot more established and important. They oppress the Protestants, while the ULO begin a quite IRAlike terrorist campaign. Sectarian tensions in Glasgow and Liverpool flare. Insert an Entebbe expy here.
International pressure on Ireland grows, helped by a lot more anti-Irish America, with Noraid being something quite different here. Eventually RFK, our Yitzakh Rabin expy, decides to make peace and meets *insert British PM here* and Paisley in Oslo. This alternate Oslo Accords ends in the Protestants granted control over a bit of Ulster and half of Dublin, but ends in Kennedy's assassination.
After that, there is several invasions of Ulster and Gerry Adams emerges as our Bibi expy.
I'm no expert on Ireland so is this at all plausible? I'm also applying a heavy butterfly net to births. Am I using too many expies?
Basically my scenario is what if a kind of Irish Zionism developed in the 19th Century. They have a big enough diaspora for it and say Nativists come to power in the US while Gladstone gets Home Rule through an Ireland is doing pretty well. You could definitely get some nostalgia for the old country and people wanting to return to Ireland.
Say some wealthy Irish-Americans began funding boats from Boston to New York to a new port established on the Shannon called Hibernia, which will be our Tel Aviv. This happens and leads to increased tensions between the Protestants and Catholics. After a long conflict, a deal is made where that the UK will keep Ulster (all of it), a strip down the east coast and Dublin, while the State of Eire gets the rest.
The Zirishists (yes I know that word is an abomination) import millions of Irish-Americans like the Zionists did in the late 40s and a version of the 1948 War happens, with Ireland taking the coastal strip, half of Dublin and large parts of Ulster. Lot's of Protestants flee to Glasgow and Liverpool where they form a diaspora.
In the 60s, the Ulster Liberation Organisation (original I know) with Ian Paisley (our Arafat) as the boss. They manage to provoke a version of the Six Day War which is a lot smaller in scale and probably fought mainly with paras, with the UK providing air and naval support (or not if we're going full Bay of Pigs). Ireland wins and occupies the entire island, with more Protestants fleeing.
An expy of Lebanon doesn't really make much sense so we'll skip it. Ireland here is more theocratic than Israel was, as the Catholic Church is a lot more established and important. They oppress the Protestants, while the ULO begin a quite IRAlike terrorist campaign. Sectarian tensions in Glasgow and Liverpool flare. Insert an Entebbe expy here.
International pressure on Ireland grows, helped by a lot more anti-Irish America, with Noraid being something quite different here. Eventually RFK, our Yitzakh Rabin expy, decides to make peace and meets *insert British PM here* and Paisley in Oslo. This alternate Oslo Accords ends in the Protestants granted control over a bit of Ulster and half of Dublin, but ends in Kennedy's assassination.
After that, there is several invasions of Ulster and Gerry Adams emerges as our Bibi expy.
I'm no expert on Ireland so is this at all plausible? I'm also applying a heavy butterfly net to births. Am I using too many expies?