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The Horrors of Saint Domingo: The Trotsky Option?
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I've just blanked on a pop culture reference of anyone talking of themselves in the third person. It is too early. What's that, small imaginary bird? I have to give a lecture in half an hour? Oh.Discuss @Youngmarshall's latest article here.
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This has been a great little set of articles. Depressing, but great.
To an extent, it is difficult to read the story of Haiti and not get angry.
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This has been a great little set of articles. Depressing, but great.
Thanks Alex.
The series I'm following this with, which starts in a fortnight, is about the scramble for Africa so erm it's not going to get any less depressing, I'm afraid.
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Thanks Alex.
The series I'm following this with, which starts in a fortnight, is about the scramble for Africa so erm it's not going to get any less depressing, I'm afraid.
Everyone always talks about how Liberia and Ethiopia were the only uncolonised nations in Africa and ignore the fact that they, um, were colonising their neighbours on a much smaller scale instead.
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Thanks Alex.
The series I'm following this with, which starts in a fortnight, is about the scramble for Africa so erm it's not going to get any less depressing, I'm afraid.
Yo if you want anything about Southern Rhodesia hit me.
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Everyone always talks about how Liberia and Ethiopia were the only uncolonised nations in Africa and ignore the fact that they, um, were colonising their neighbours on a much smaller scale instead.
The Americo-Liberians basically recreating the American South with them on top has always struck me as kind of weird.
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And/or late 19th Century South Africa @Youngmarshall.
I really like your conclusion here, @Youngmarshall.
One question that hangs over is, would France have demanded such a ridiculous amount of money with a different leader in charge? Louis-Philippe, after all, had several entanglements, some of them in the region (Pastry War) over making countries pay debts, whether they could or not. So a more liberal regime doesn't guarantee no demands even if Louis-Philippe lowered the levels of money to be paid. However, what if no Restoration or no power coming back to the Ultras? One thing that came out a few months before that terribly unequal treaty was the law of the "milliard des émigrés", giving money to people for having their property sold off in the Revolution, like the planters and slaveowners who had lost money because their property wanted freedom and gained it (oh, and sorry, @Sulemain, but both Louis-Philippe and Lafayette took money on that). France would not have to find as much money and look at weaker targets or try and assert itself like it also did by invading Algeria in 1830.
One question that hangs over is, would France have demanded such a ridiculous amount of money with a different leader in charge? Louis-Philippe, after all, had several entanglements, some of them in the region (Pastry War) over making countries pay debts, whether they could or not. So a more liberal regime doesn't guarantee no demands even if Louis-Philippe lowered the levels of money to be paid. However, what if no Restoration or no power coming back to the Ultras? One thing that came out a few months before that terribly unequal treaty was the law of the "milliard des émigrés", giving money to people for having their property sold off in the Revolution, like the planters and slaveowners who had lost money because their property wanted freedom and gained it (oh, and sorry, @Sulemain, but both Louis-Philippe and Lafayette took money on that). France would not have to find as much money and look at weaker targets or try and assert itself like it also did by invading Algeria in 1830.