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The Democrats are red for Reid, obviously. The Republicans, on the other hand, are red for Reagan. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State
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This has some very "End of History" vibes and I love it.
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I love your timelines - but I always wish they'd go a bit further. I get why you don't do that as with a PoD of 1945 anything past a few decades is pure fiction. But I'd love to know what Britain is like with a successful CPGB and a new left. By 2021 is Common Wealth still a small but functional party? Do we get a kind of united left? Does Labour have an earlier Corbyn style backlash to the right? There's so many options here
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The Commonwealth party imploded in 1951 after Millington left to be a full time CND Activist etc. Action still exists though as a Labour Pressure Group who become the biggest supporters of T.Dan Smith as Acland makes a more Left Wing Blue Labour essentially.
I don’t like to go to far but I can tell you the situation circa 1980, The CPGB is split between the New Red Clydesiders and the Nottinghamshire EuroCommunists as they are most dominant Council wide forces, they also dominate most Trade Unions still. The New Left has split between the more Liberal aspects defecting to the Liberals lead by Peter Hain and the ones inspired by Community Activism who align with the 54’ Group in Nottingham and many stand with the Left Lion Party of Roy Gosling’s creation.
Meanwhile Airey Neave has been replaced as Prime Minister by Robert Carr after another bout of heart problems and Labour has chosen Peter Shore as there Leader after another gruelling contest.
This worlds 2021 probably has Labour in coalition with the Liberals against the raising United Left Alliance who’s chief spokesperson is Paris Lee etc. whilst Jesse Norman’s Tory’s are battling for opposition with the Law and Justice party of David Davis.
Joking aside, I’m happy to discuss the scenario further in PMs and the like because it’s fun.
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How else do you indicate that your a Nottingham based, Community, Left Wing Party?No, that's too Nottingham
Calling yourself the St Ann’s People’s Concern just sounds like bureau.
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It's a bold choice and I love it
Presidents of Brazil
1969 - 1974: Emílio Garrastazu Médici (ARENA)
1974 - 1976: Ernesto Geisel (ARENA)
1976 - 1976: João Leitão de Abreu (ARENA)
1976 - 1978: Golbery do Couto e Silva (ARENA)
Results of the 1978 Presidential Election: Ulysses Guimarães / Franco Montoro (PMDB)
defeated, 1978: Leonel Brizola / Theotônio dos Santos (PDT), João Castelo / Jose Sarney (PD), Lula da Silva / Lysâneas Dias Maciel (PT)
Paulo Evarista Arns is kidnapped and killed shortly after Wladmir Herzog; revelation of the TPP project (which in real life is known as Brasil: Nunca Mais - TPP was a random acronym used by researchers to maintain secrecy) after an unaware assistant to Cardinal Arns uses it as example of cross-faith cooperation in public newsletter. Chaos follows in the government and outside; Geisel moves to tamp down on the excesses of the torturers but the young officer class revolts and begins a bombing campaign throughout Rio de Janeiro. Geisel is overthrown in February, 1976 and de Abreu, the Chief of Staff and right-hand man of hardliner Médici, is brought in to represent their interests. However, mass revolt is imminent as the murder of the leader of the largest Archdiocese in the world causes both international condemnation from the Church and Democratic candidate Jimmy Carter (eager to establish his credibility as an advocate for human rights) as well as uprisings from all corners of society. The progressive church institutions centered in the Northeast encourage mass protest, further inflamed by encouragements from middle-class outlets like Veja and Folha de São Paulo as well as a mass strike in São Paulo's heavy industrial 'ABC' region led by Lula da Silva. The initial repression is immense; curfews are implemented across major urban centers, the ranks of the military judiciary are beefed up immensely to further prosecute the new intakes of 'disappeared' protest leaders and civilian dissidents, torture (which briefly waned under Geisel) is widely encouraged by de Abreu and sees a notable increase in sexual torture and "edge of life" torture (ex. drownings), and mass violence takes place; most notably during the funeral mass for Cardinal Arns, as public turnout (which had been greatly limited by the de Abreu government) grossly exceeds government expectations and security officials turn violent.
However, Pandora's Box has been opened; the people are clearly against the military, and international opinion has grossly turned against the military outside of the anti-communist right. The beginnings of the international sanctions regime begin in earnest as the Carter/Church ticket begins campaigning on ending all military aid and cooperation with the Brazilian government as well as a financial services freeze and a ban on the sale of goods, services and technology related to aerospace, computer technology and construction (all financial sectors heavily influenced by the military, or on the matter of construction, the top of the military regime). Brazil's B3 Stock Exchange undergoes a panic as jolted foreign investors and horrified civilian elites begin selling off assets en masse; this is the final straw. Golbery do Couto e Silva, who articulated the academic justification for the coup back in '64, leads a group of "moderates" to counter-coup de Abreu and Médici and begin the abertura - the opening - of society continuously promised by the dictatorship but never delivered. The old electoral college is abolished and direct elections are nominally guaranteed; however, the transition is viewed as fragile, with the threat of a still-powerful military lashing out at a civilian President omnipresent. Two civilian trends emerge; middle-class, pro-democracy moderates represented by MDB Congressman Ulysses Guimaraes, while the union movement, radicalized youth and the mass of increasingly radicalized poor Catholics (represented by the decentralized Comunidades Eclesiais de Base, essentially spontaneous churches of the poor and rural poor led by lay priests) represented by Lula da Silva and the hastily-created Worker's Party. Lula's radicalism is too much for the military to stomach, and while outright repression is impossible, the Worker's Party is denied registration by the Supreme Court on technicalities and is barred from participating in the elections. Leonel Brizola, as the only left candidate remaining, surges thanks to Lula's full support, but Guimaraes limps over the finish line, beating Brizola's PDT and the new successor party to the dictatorship, the aptly named Democratic Party.
While President Carter has made his support for the inauguration of Guimaraes public, it is currently unknown whether he will become Brazil's first directly elected President since 1964.
1969 - 1974: Emílio Garrastazu Médici (ARENA)
1974 - 1976: Ernesto Geisel (ARENA)
1976 - 1976: João Leitão de Abreu (ARENA)
1976 - 1978: Golbery do Couto e Silva (ARENA)
Results of the 1978 Presidential Election: Ulysses Guimarães / Franco Montoro (PMDB)
defeated, 1978: Leonel Brizola / Theotônio dos Santos (PDT), João Castelo / Jose Sarney (PD), Lula da Silva / Lysâneas Dias Maciel (PT)
Paulo Evarista Arns is kidnapped and killed shortly after Wladmir Herzog; revelation of the TPP project (which in real life is known as Brasil: Nunca Mais - TPP was a random acronym used by researchers to maintain secrecy) after an unaware assistant to Cardinal Arns uses it as example of cross-faith cooperation in public newsletter. Chaos follows in the government and outside; Geisel moves to tamp down on the excesses of the torturers but the young officer class revolts and begins a bombing campaign throughout Rio de Janeiro. Geisel is overthrown in February, 1976 and de Abreu, the Chief of Staff and right-hand man of hardliner Médici, is brought in to represent their interests. However, mass revolt is imminent as the murder of the leader of the largest Archdiocese in the world causes both international condemnation from the Church and Democratic candidate Jimmy Carter (eager to establish his credibility as an advocate for human rights) as well as uprisings from all corners of society. The progressive church institutions centered in the Northeast encourage mass protest, further inflamed by encouragements from middle-class outlets like Veja and Folha de São Paulo as well as a mass strike in São Paulo's heavy industrial 'ABC' region led by Lula da Silva. The initial repression is immense; curfews are implemented across major urban centers, the ranks of the military judiciary are beefed up immensely to further prosecute the new intakes of 'disappeared' protest leaders and civilian dissidents, torture (which briefly waned under Geisel) is widely encouraged by de Abreu and sees a notable increase in sexual torture and "edge of life" torture (ex. drownings), and mass violence takes place; most notably during the funeral mass for Cardinal Arns, as public turnout (which had been greatly limited by the de Abreu government) grossly exceeds government expectations and security officials turn violent.
However, Pandora's Box has been opened; the people are clearly against the military, and international opinion has grossly turned against the military outside of the anti-communist right. The beginnings of the international sanctions regime begin in earnest as the Carter/Church ticket begins campaigning on ending all military aid and cooperation with the Brazilian government as well as a financial services freeze and a ban on the sale of goods, services and technology related to aerospace, computer technology and construction (all financial sectors heavily influenced by the military, or on the matter of construction, the top of the military regime). Brazil's B3 Stock Exchange undergoes a panic as jolted foreign investors and horrified civilian elites begin selling off assets en masse; this is the final straw. Golbery do Couto e Silva, who articulated the academic justification for the coup back in '64, leads a group of "moderates" to counter-coup de Abreu and Médici and begin the abertura - the opening - of society continuously promised by the dictatorship but never delivered. The old electoral college is abolished and direct elections are nominally guaranteed; however, the transition is viewed as fragile, with the threat of a still-powerful military lashing out at a civilian President omnipresent. Two civilian trends emerge; middle-class, pro-democracy moderates represented by MDB Congressman Ulysses Guimaraes, while the union movement, radicalized youth and the mass of increasingly radicalized poor Catholics (represented by the decentralized Comunidades Eclesiais de Base, essentially spontaneous churches of the poor and rural poor led by lay priests) represented by Lula da Silva and the hastily-created Worker's Party. Lula's radicalism is too much for the military to stomach, and while outright repression is impossible, the Worker's Party is denied registration by the Supreme Court on technicalities and is barred from participating in the elections. Leonel Brizola, as the only left candidate remaining, surges thanks to Lula's full support, but Guimaraes limps over the finish line, beating Brizola's PDT and the new successor party to the dictatorship, the aptly named Democratic Party.
While President Carter has made his support for the inauguration of Guimaraes public, it is currently unknown whether he will become Brazil's first directly elected President since 1964.
Based off a real anecdote related by Jaime Wright to Lawrence Weschler in his book A Miracle, A Universe, based off research from Weschler's writing, John D. French's biography Lula and His Politics of Cunning, Ann Mische's Partisan Publics: Communication and Contention across Brazilian Youth Activist Networks and Maud Chirio's Politics in Uniform: Military Officers and Dictatorship In Brazil, 1960-1980.
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Excellent Andrew Content
Does seem like the sort of thing that could actually happen. I've thought the same thing but with two shades of purple (as a way of representing that they both use red, white and blue, as some people do with the SDP here).
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cross posting here
Monarchs / Consorts of the British Empire
1910-1915: George V / Mary of Teck (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1915-1917: Edward VIII / vacant (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1917-1937: Edward VIII / vacant (Wettin)
1937-0000: Edward VIII / Ethel du Pont (Wettin)
Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
1906-1915: H.H. Asquith (Liberal)
1910 (Minority, with Irish Nationalist c&s) def. Arthur Balfour (Unionist), John Redmond / William O'Brien (Irish Nationalists), Arthur Henderson (Labour)
1910 (Minority, with Irish Nationalist c&s) def. Arthur Balfour (Unionist), John Redmond / William O'Brien (Irish Nationalists), George Barnes (Labour)
1915 Formation of War Government with Unionists and Labour
1915-1920: Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener (Independent)
1915 Leading War Government with Unionists, Liberals and Labour
1919 Peace of Hanover - Armistice with the Central Powers; Formation of Emergency Government
1920-1925: Winston Churchill (Liberal / Constitutional)
1920 Leading Emergency Government with Unionists and British Workers' League
1920 Merger of Government parties into Constitutional Party
1922 (Majority) def.Ramsay MacDonald (Independent Labour), Reginald McKenna (Independent Liberal)
1924 Re-establishment of Emergency Government
1925-1929: Edward Carson (Constitutional)
1925 Leading Emergency Government
1929-0000: Walter Guinness (Constitutional)
1929 (Majority) def. Denis Gorey (Farmers')
1933 (Majority) def. Michael Heffernan (Farmers')
1937 (Majority) def. Frank MacDermot (National Farmers' and Ratepayers' League)
Presidents of the United States of America
1909-1913: William Howard Taft (Republican)
1908 (with James S. Sherman) def. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1913-1917: Theodore Roosevelt II (Progressive / Republican / Nationalist)
1912 (with Hiram Johnson) def. Champ Clark (Democratic), William Howard Taft (Republican)
1917-1925: William Randolph Hearst (Democratic / National Independence)
1916 (with Judson Harmon) def. Theodore Roosevelt II (Nationalist), Hiram Johnson (Progressive), Charles W. Fairbanks (Republican)
1920 (with Eugene Foss) def. Leonard Wood (Nationalist / Republican), John M. Parker (Democratic / Progressive), Eugene V. Debs (Socialist)
1925-1927: Henry L. Stimson (Nationalist)
1924 (with Robert E. Wood) def. William Randolph Hearst (National Independence), Ellison D. Smith (Democratic)
1927-1937: Robert E. Wood (Nationalist)
1928 (with Herbert Hoover) def. Theodore G. Bilbo (Democratic), William Randolph Hearst (National Independence)
1932 (with Hanford MacNider) def. Theodore G. Bilbo (Democratic), Al Smith (National Independence)
1937-0000: Hanford MacNider (Nationalist)
1936 (with Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.) def. Harry F. Byrd Sr. (Democratic)
Britain had a very, very bad experience in the Great War. From losing a generation of fighting men to the mud of Flanders, to essentially collapsing the credibility of their most enthusiastic ally Teddy Roosevelt with financial shenanigans, to King George's ignominious death from being thrown from his horse, to finally seeing the bulk of their army encircled in a last ditch defence of Paris, it was a universal shitshow.
The result was years of close-to and then outright military government (in the two decades between 1910 and 1929, only one election was held and that was considered something of a farce). The solidification of a new governmental establishment that didn't like testing it's mettle on the electoral battlefield was matched by a rapid radicalisation on the streets as a haggard gang of soldiers returned from a Europe now shaped in the Kaiser's image, to delve into the works of Marx, Kropotkin and DeLeon. The 1922 election was decried as ILP candidates were turned away from hustings under legislation that carried forward DORA components into peacetime. Similarly, Sinn Fein candidates found it impossible to campaign as the streets were flooded with 'Black and Tan' paramilitaries to hold down the island.
The irony of the bloody effort to keep Ireland within the United Kingdom is that within a few short years, that would be all the United Kingdom consisted of. The British Revolution thrived as much of the military which could have put it down were at that time in Ireland. By 1925, a weary Edward Carson spiritually kissed the hands of his younger royal namesake, as the ragged Emergency Government re-coalesced in the halls of the Royal College of Science in Dublin.
King Edward himself spent less and less time in his supposed primary title, and more in Canada - far from syndicalist revolutionaries or Fenian terror bombs - and in it's southern neighbour. Roosevelt's defeat in 1916 had seen the United States briefly flip sides in the Great War, but Hearst won few concessions from the British Empire. Hearst himself had presided over an increasingly authoritarian state as his government failed to resolve the economic crisis that had begun in 1914, that only deepened when he unilaterally halted sales of munitions to the Entente. While Stimson promised a return to normalcy, he was impeached after the British Revolution. King Edward soon became fast friends with the new President Wood. A new economic boom has begun as British aristocracy has begun moving it's wealth back across the pond. More importantly the security of the Empire has been bolstered by the new alliance with Wood's regime. Wood has presided over a policy of Preparedness, to confront the German and Japanese Empires in either the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans. Ireland has become the eastern flank of the United States military, thousands of doughboys making the Emerald Isle safe for the Wettins and their chosen administrators.
Such an alliance has been deepened by the King's marriage to a member of America's own aristocracy and the final collapse of vestiges of real opposition to the Nationalists as a former Hearst Man, Joe Kennedy has accepted the Vice Presidency alongside Wood's acolyte MacNider. This of course has seen some loosening in Ireland proper to satisfy the Irish-Americans lately brought into the governing coalition in the United States. But like America itself, the opposition in the reformed UK Parliament is a token, quiet, 'patriotic' one.
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Monarchs / Consorts of the British Empire
1910-1915: George V / Mary of Teck (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1915-1917: Edward VIII / vacant (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1917-1937: Edward VIII / vacant (Wettin)
1937-0000: Edward VIII / Ethel du Pont (Wettin)
Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
1906-1915: H.H. Asquith (Liberal)
1910 (Minority, with Irish Nationalist c&s) def. Arthur Balfour (Unionist), John Redmond / William O'Brien (Irish Nationalists), Arthur Henderson (Labour)
1910 (Minority, with Irish Nationalist c&s) def. Arthur Balfour (Unionist), John Redmond / William O'Brien (Irish Nationalists), George Barnes (Labour)
1915 Formation of War Government with Unionists and Labour
1915-1920: Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener (Independent)
1915 Leading War Government with Unionists, Liberals and Labour
1919 Peace of Hanover - Armistice with the Central Powers; Formation of Emergency Government
1920-1925: Winston Churchill (Liberal / Constitutional)
1920 Leading Emergency Government with Unionists and British Workers' League
1920 Merger of Government parties into Constitutional Party
1922 (Majority) def.
1924 Re-establishment of Emergency Government
1925-1929: Edward Carson (Constitutional)
1925 Leading Emergency Government
1929-0000: Walter Guinness (Constitutional)
1929 (Majority) def. Denis Gorey (Farmers')
1933 (Majority) def. Michael Heffernan (Farmers')
1937 (Majority) def. Frank MacDermot (National Farmers' and Ratepayers' League)
Presidents of the United States of America
1909-1913: William Howard Taft (Republican)
1908 (with James S. Sherman) def. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1913-1917: Theodore Roosevelt II (Progressive / Republican / Nationalist)
1912 (with Hiram Johnson) def. Champ Clark (Democratic), William Howard Taft (Republican)
1917-1925: William Randolph Hearst (Democratic / National Independence)
1916 (with Judson Harmon) def. Theodore Roosevelt II (Nationalist), Hiram Johnson (Progressive), Charles W. Fairbanks (Republican)
1920 (with Eugene Foss) def. Leonard Wood (Nationalist / Republican), John M. Parker (Democratic / Progressive),
1925-1927: Henry L. Stimson (Nationalist)
1924 (with Robert E. Wood) def. William Randolph Hearst (National Independence), Ellison D. Smith (Democratic)
1927-1937: Robert E. Wood (Nationalist)
1928 (with Herbert Hoover) def. Theodore G. Bilbo (Democratic), William Randolph Hearst (National Independence)
1932 (with Hanford MacNider) def. Theodore G. Bilbo (Democratic), Al Smith (National Independence)
1937-0000: Hanford MacNider (Nationalist)
1936 (with Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.) def. Harry F. Byrd Sr. (Democratic)
Britain had a very, very bad experience in the Great War. From losing a generation of fighting men to the mud of Flanders, to essentially collapsing the credibility of their most enthusiastic ally Teddy Roosevelt with financial shenanigans, to King George's ignominious death from being thrown from his horse, to finally seeing the bulk of their army encircled in a last ditch defence of Paris, it was a universal shitshow.
The result was years of close-to and then outright military government (in the two decades between 1910 and 1929, only one election was held and that was considered something of a farce). The solidification of a new governmental establishment that didn't like testing it's mettle on the electoral battlefield was matched by a rapid radicalisation on the streets as a haggard gang of soldiers returned from a Europe now shaped in the Kaiser's image, to delve into the works of Marx, Kropotkin and DeLeon. The 1922 election was decried as ILP candidates were turned away from hustings under legislation that carried forward DORA components into peacetime. Similarly, Sinn Fein candidates found it impossible to campaign as the streets were flooded with 'Black and Tan' paramilitaries to hold down the island.
The irony of the bloody effort to keep Ireland within the United Kingdom is that within a few short years, that would be all the United Kingdom consisted of. The British Revolution thrived as much of the military which could have put it down were at that time in Ireland. By 1925, a weary Edward Carson spiritually kissed the hands of his younger royal namesake, as the ragged Emergency Government re-coalesced in the halls of the Royal College of Science in Dublin.
King Edward himself spent less and less time in his supposed primary title, and more in Canada - far from syndicalist revolutionaries or Fenian terror bombs - and in it's southern neighbour. Roosevelt's defeat in 1916 had seen the United States briefly flip sides in the Great War, but Hearst won few concessions from the British Empire. Hearst himself had presided over an increasingly authoritarian state as his government failed to resolve the economic crisis that had begun in 1914, that only deepened when he unilaterally halted sales of munitions to the Entente. While Stimson promised a return to normalcy, he was impeached after the British Revolution. King Edward soon became fast friends with the new President Wood. A new economic boom has begun as British aristocracy has begun moving it's wealth back across the pond. More importantly the security of the Empire has been bolstered by the new alliance with Wood's regime. Wood has presided over a policy of Preparedness, to confront the German and Japanese Empires in either the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans. Ireland has become the eastern flank of the United States military, thousands of doughboys making the Emerald Isle safe for the Wettins and their chosen administrators.
Such an alliance has been deepened by the King's marriage to a member of America's own aristocracy and the final collapse of vestiges of real opposition to the Nationalists as a former Hearst Man, Joe Kennedy has accepted the Vice Presidency alongside Wood's acolyte MacNider. This of course has seen some loosening in Ireland proper to satisfy the Irish-Americans lately brought into the governing coalition in the United States. But like America itself, the opposition in the reformed UK Parliament is a token, quiet, 'patriotic' one.
Walpurgisnacht
The Empire Never Ended
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2019-2022: Boris Johnson (Conservative)
def 2019: (Majority) Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats), Jonathan Bartley & Sian Berry (Green)
2022-2034: Angela Rayner (Labour)
def 2022: (Minority) Boris Johnson (Conservative), Ed Davey (Liberal Democrats), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Alex Salmond (Alba), Jonathan Bartley & Sian Berry (Green)
def 2023: (Majority) Boris Johnson (Conservative), Ed Davey (Liberal Democrats), Alex Salmond (Alba), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Jonathan Bartley & Sian Berry (Green)
def 2027: (Majority) Liz Truss (Conservative), Jane Dodds (Liberal Democrats), Shahrar Ali (Green), Neile Hanvey [replacing Alex Salmond] (Alba), Huzma Yousaf (SNP)
def 2032: (Majority) James Cleverly (Conservative), Luciana Berger (Liberal Democrats), Shahrar Ali (Green), Alex Arthur (Alba), Tamsin Omond & Cleo Lake (SURGE: For A Better Future)
2034-2035: Apsana Begum (Labour)
2035-2042: Wes Streeting (Progressive)
def 2035: (Majority) Apsana Begum (Labour), Rishi Sunak (Conservative), Luciana Berger (Liberal Democrats), Alex Arthur (Alba), Tamsin Omond & Magid Magid (SURGE), Shahar Ali (Green)
def 2039: (Majority) Jonathan Reynolds (Labour), Tom Hunt (Conservative), Sarah Green (New Liberals), Alex Arthur (Alba), Magid Magid & Ivi Hohmann (SURGE)
2042-2050: Alex Davies-Jones (Progressive)
def 2042: (Majority) Charlotte Nichols (Labour), Sarah Green (New Liberals), Bim Afolami (Conservative), Michelle Ferns (Alba), Ivi Hohmann & Jack Harries (SURGE)
def 2045: (Minority with Conservative confidence & supply) Omid Miri (Labour), Harley Dalton (New Liberals), Elena Bunbury (Conservative), Tom McIntosh (Alba [abstained])
2050-xxxx: Omid Miri (Labour)
def 2050: (Majority) Alex Davies-Jones (Progressive), Russel Wong (New Liberals), Tom McIntosh & Mason Stuart (Britannia [abstained]), Elena Bunbury (Conservative)
It is important to recognise that the collapse of the Conservatives was inevitable. When Blair made it acceptable for suburban businessmen to vote Labour, he broke the last taboo around the party. Cameron and Johnson might have briefly stolen working-class social conservatives, but their base was hollow and rotting under them. Could any other party have risen to the status of opposition? It is doubtful. The Greens were always too enthralled by the middle-class-granola-eating-uni-student set, a fault-line around which they eventually split. The Liberal Democrats collaborated with Cameron, but even their right-wing was still more fond of capital than culture, and they never quite made themselves isolated from Labour. The SNP, beloved by the chattering classes, were an outside bet, but even Alba was at the time geographically limited and pariahs thanks to the smears on their leader.
So in the end, the only thing that could defeat Labour was itself.
Unlike with the dissolution of the Liberals, both parts of the Conservative Party that abandoned it moved under the same umbrella. The affluent suburbanites and City professionals were swayed by the ideals of "tolerance" and "progress", while the disaffected urbanites and Northern doleseekers preferred the ideals of "charity" and "community". These growing wings had profound differences over faith, nation, and economy, and the inevitable result was fission. If one were to take their pronouncements at first value, you would conclude that of Britain's two parties, one is economically to the left and socially to the right, and the other is the other way around. A more intelligent analysis would reveal the truth.
The Progressives claim the mantle of protecting British businesses from nationalisation or cooperation, but have been just as consistent in courting the trade-union sector as Labour, giving delegates from the Allied Relief and Reconstruction Workers prime speaking time in their last conference. Indeed, as part of their much-vaunted "social justice", this "pro-business" party have established one of the most generous welfare regimes in history, all in the name of funnelling climate refugees from across the globe into the workforce. The Progressives' ideal business sector is one harried round with employment quotas, taxes, and "social responsibilities", a pussycat in the lap of government--not stuffed or declawed, but far from free.
On the other side of the house, we find Labour, claiming the mantle of nation and culture. A simple glance at the Prime Minister should reveal how hollow that is. Despite allegedly championing Britain's "traditional values", government support for gender transition and alternative romantic arrangements is just as high as it is across the rest of the decadent West. The "senators of faith" supposedly set up as a check on this activity is itself compromised, with bishops forced to rub shoulder with imams, rabbis, and scores of other forms of foreign priest. Labour's vision might centre around the villages and terraced streets of a Merrie England, but it certainly doesn't take stock of the ancestry or creed of said Merrie Englanders.
In the early Naughties, British satirists joked about how the two parties had become interchangeable. Now, the joke is the reality. With both parties ultimately seeing themselves as the heirs to Blair, the main hope for the British right lies outside of politics. The Scots have shown us the way, with the luvvie leftie cuts to policing letting Free Caledonia establish itself. Let us return to the Shires, and like our ancestors, build castles against the tide of darkness...
---Norman Edmonds, Our Land: A New Reaction for a New Era
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i am afraid
I wasn't going to go through the motions again after being told of your additions and making a sock to see it for myself, but since you've decided to post a complete version here, fuck it and fuck you. I love how you've written the I Can't Believe It's Not Edmund character.
This has never been a part of anything I've said or my beliefs.
Which I support.
My religious bigotry only goes so far as Catholicism.
I would never use cringe 'um actually the fifteenth century was the golden age of agricultural England and and' nonsense.
Nice.
But I suppose that's part of it, isn't it? "I'm not calling you a racist, after all, British right."
I mean, for all the unhinged nonsense about how I'm a racist, and I know you've seen it and evidently taken it in, when drunk and all my inhibitions are down, I don't declare my support for the indiscriminate murder of six million people for their ethnicity - unlike you.
cikka
Gay Gay Homosexual Gay
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dude do you have an exam to study for or something
i barely do and even i don't have this much time on my hands
Walpurgisnacht
The Empire Never Ended
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I didn't actually mean for the main character to come off as "Not Edmund"--mostly because you're quite a difficult person to imitate. The "Norman Edmonds" name was mostly a gag on how the list had some elements of Edmundness in being a future where Labour dominates, and as the first name should indicate, he probably doesn't agree with you. I apologise for this.
lmao
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I have no idea whats going on, lol
I think it's the Norman Yoke kid puppeting
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Now I know even less