Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

[Stuyvesant]

1989-1991: George Bush (Republican)†
1988 def. Jesse Jackson (Democratic), Paul Simon (Moderate)
1991-1992: Jack Kemp (Republican)
1992-1993: Jack Kemp (An American Party)
1993-2001: Bob Kerrey: (Moderate)
1992 def. Pat Buchanan (Republican), Jerry Brown (Reform), Jack Kemp (An American Party)
1996 def. Phil Gramm (An American Party), Ralph Nader (Reform), Pete Wilson (Serve America Movement), Dan Burton (Independence)

A quick-and-dirty attempt to make a backstory for my "Centrist Third Parties Party System" project.

 

[Bolt451]

This post is an insult to Bob and I hope you're ashamed of yourself!

David
Take the fucking conpliment David
David

 

[Japhy]

I need another ATLF topic.

I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.

 

[Yokai Man]

I need another ATLF topic.

I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.

Do one for Make America Stand Again

That or The Man

 

[Mumby]

I need another ATLF topic.

I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.

i mean this is more like a challenge than a atlf

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

japhy pls

 

[Comisario]

I am now wracking my brain for a Giuseppe Conte analogue... I have nothing, especially not after the past two weeks.

 

[Japhy]

i mean this is more like a challenge than a atlf

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

japhy pls

Bob y

 

[Mumby]

Bob y

I just love that movie and how ambitious it is at making a dumb pulp.

I was imagining something more like your Wolfenstein list, so something more like a Theoretical Look Backward to explain how we got to this point.

 

[Alex Richards]

What are the ATLFs?

 

[Mumby]

What are the ATLFs?

A Theoretical Look Forward - Japhy did a series of them back on AH.com, looking forward from the end of each of Turtledove's TL-191 books, ignoring subsequent canon, only taking the established canon up to that point. It was a really interesting format, I thought.

 

[Kaiser Julius]

I need another ATLF topic.

How 'bout That Wacky Redhead?

 

[Japhy]

How 'bout That Wacky Redhead?

Can't do it, my eyes glaze over and my brain shuts down at Pop Culture TLs. Which are fine, but they do that to me.

 

[Japhy]

What are the ATLFs?

A Theoretical Look Forward as Bob says, though I've done a bunch of other timelines too. There's a bunch of them in my list repository thread.

 

[Kaiser Julius]

Can't do it, my eyes glaze over and my brain shuts down at Pop Culture TLs. Which are fine, but they do that to me.

Just the politics, then.

 

[Gary Oswald]

List of Presidents of Zion

1948-54: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1954-55: C.L.R. James (Workers)
1955-63: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1963-69: George Padmore (Workers/People's)
1969-69: Daniel Fignole (People's)
1969-74: Harriette Moore (People's)
1974-77: Medgar Evers (People's)
1977-83: Benjamin Davis (Liberal)
1983-84: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1984-86: James Lawson (People's)
1986-92: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1992-95: Medgar Evers (People's)
1995-96: James Lawson (People's)
1996-99: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)
1999-01: Colin Powell (One Zion)
2001-06: Luckner Cambronne (Liberal/Change)
2006-09: Herman Cain (Change)
2009-19: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)

The Back to Africa movement did not begin in the 20th century, but the settlements of Sierra Leone and Liberia were small in scale, with the returned slaves living under native rulers. Zion as a project did not truly take off until the collapse of the Sokoto Empire in 1919 where under the auspices of the German Colonials, large scale settlement began. This increasingly led to tension with the local Africans, who resented the increasingly influence of these strangers. One of the ironies of the Back to Africa movement is that they defined themselevs by their vodou faith, which had become a symbol of their cultural resiliance in the slave fields but it was a religion that was only a tiny minority in Africa itself thanks to centuries of muslim rule. In 1936, when a large scale revolt broke out against the German, the Americo-Africans supported the colonial government and so earned their increasingly trust at the cost of a further poisioning of their relations with the locals. And in the aftermath of the terrible massacres of Vodun worshipers in the New World by Trujillo's Louisianaian Empire during the 1940s, the Return to Africa movement was seen as the only way for the black population of the Americas to be guarenteed safety.

In 1944 the Vodun Revolt against the German rule in Guinea began, in 1947 the vodun fought a civil war against the muslim africans that saw thousands expelled and in 1948, after defeating most of their neighbours in war, the Republic of Zion was declared.

 

[Japhy]

Just the politics, then.

With apologies to Brainbin, not my cup of iced tea.

 

[Kaiser Julius]

With apologies to Brainbin, not my cup of iced tea.

How 'bout Fight and be Right or A Greater Britain?

 

[Japhy]

How 'bout Fight and be Right or A Greater Britain?

Did a US FABR ages ago, a UK one or somewhere else would be fun.

 

[Kaiser Julius]

a UK one or somewhere else would be fun.

The UK is the setting...

What was the US one like?

 

[Japhy]

The UK is the setting...

What was the US one like?

Yes I know it was the setting but Ed also gave us a list of all Presidents up to 1940 so I went to the 80s IIRC.