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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State
- Thread starter Mumby
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- Albany, NY
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I need another ATLF topic.
I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.
I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.
Do one for Make America Stand AgainI need another ATLF topic.
I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.
That or The Man
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- Municipal Commune of Bourne
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I need another ATLF topic.
I'd make a comment about how eventually I'll get to doing Fail-Safe but I mean its been like a decade of me saying that.
i mean this is more like a challenge than a atlf
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
japhy pls
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Bob yi mean this is more like a challenge than a atlf
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
japhy pls
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- Municipal Commune of Bourne
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- He/Him
Bob y
I just love that movie and how ambitious it is at making a dumb pulp.
I was imagining something more like your Wolfenstein list, so something more like a Theoretical Look Backward to explain how we got to this point.
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- Derbyshire
What are the ATLFs?
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- Municipal Commune of Bourne
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What are the ATLFs?
A Theoretical Look Forward - Japhy did a series of them back on AH.com, looking forward from the end of each of Turtledove's TL-191 books, ignoring subsequent canon, only taking the established canon up to that point. It was a really interesting format, I thought.
Bene Tleilax
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How 'bout That Wacky Redhead?I need another ATLF topic.
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- Albany, NY
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- She/Her
Can't do it, my eyes glaze over and my brain shuts down at Pop Culture TLs. Which are fine, but they do that to me.How 'bout That Wacky Redhead?
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- Albany, NY
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A Theoretical Look Forward as Bob says, though I've done a bunch of other timelines too. There's a bunch of them in my list repository thread.What are the ATLFs?
Bene Tleilax
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Can't do it, my eyes glaze over and my brain shuts down at Pop Culture TLs. Which are fine, but they do that to me.
Just the politics, then.
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List of Presidents of Zion
1948-54: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1954-55: C.L.R. James (Workers)
1955-63: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1963-69: George Padmore (Workers/People's)
1969-69: Daniel Fignole (People's)
1969-74: Harriette Moore (People's)
1974-77: Medgar Evers (People's)
1977-83: Benjamin Davis (Liberal)
1983-84: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1984-86: James Lawson (People's)
1986-92: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1992-95: Medgar Evers (People's)
1995-96: James Lawson (People's)
1996-99: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)
1999-01: Colin Powell (One Zion)
2001-06: Luckner Cambronne (Liberal/Change)
2006-09: Herman Cain (Change)
2009-19: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)
The Back to Africa movement did not begin in the 20th century, but the settlements of Sierra Leone and Liberia were small in scale, with the returned slaves living under native rulers. Zion as a project did not truly take off until the collapse of the Sokoto Empire in 1919 where under the auspices of the German Colonials, large scale settlement began. This increasingly led to tension with the local Africans, who resented the increasingly influence of these strangers. One of the ironies of the Back to Africa movement is that they defined themselevs by their vodou faith, which had become a symbol of their cultural resiliance in the slave fields but it was a religion that was only a tiny minority in Africa itself thanks to centuries of muslim rule. In 1936, when a large scale revolt broke out against the German, the Americo-Africans supported the colonial government and so earned their increasingly trust at the cost of a further poisioning of their relations with the locals. And in the aftermath of the terrible massacres of Vodun worshipers in the New World by Trujillo's Louisianaian Empire during the 1940s, the Return to Africa movement was seen as the only way for the black population of the Americas to be guarenteed safety.
In 1944 the Vodun Revolt against the German rule in Guinea began, in 1947 the vodun fought a civil war against the muslim africans that saw thousands expelled and in 1948, after defeating most of their neighbours in war, the Republic of Zion was declared.
1948-54: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1954-55: C.L.R. James (Workers)
1955-63: Marcus Garvey (Workers)
1963-69: George Padmore (Workers/People's)
1969-69: Daniel Fignole (People's)
1969-74: Harriette Moore (People's)
1974-77: Medgar Evers (People's)
1977-83: Benjamin Davis (Liberal)
1983-84: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1984-86: James Lawson (People's)
1986-92: Richard Henries (Liberal)
1992-95: Medgar Evers (People's)
1995-96: James Lawson (People's)
1996-99: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)
1999-01: Colin Powell (One Zion)
2001-06: Luckner Cambronne (Liberal/Change)
2006-09: Herman Cain (Change)
2009-19: Clarence Thomas (Liberal)
The Back to Africa movement did not begin in the 20th century, but the settlements of Sierra Leone and Liberia were small in scale, with the returned slaves living under native rulers. Zion as a project did not truly take off until the collapse of the Sokoto Empire in 1919 where under the auspices of the German Colonials, large scale settlement began. This increasingly led to tension with the local Africans, who resented the increasingly influence of these strangers. One of the ironies of the Back to Africa movement is that they defined themselevs by their vodou faith, which had become a symbol of their cultural resiliance in the slave fields but it was a religion that was only a tiny minority in Africa itself thanks to centuries of muslim rule. In 1936, when a large scale revolt broke out against the German, the Americo-Africans supported the colonial government and so earned their increasingly trust at the cost of a further poisioning of their relations with the locals. And in the aftermath of the terrible massacres of Vodun worshipers in the New World by Trujillo's Louisianaian Empire during the 1940s, the Return to Africa movement was seen as the only way for the black population of the Americas to be guarenteed safety.
In 1944 the Vodun Revolt against the German rule in Guinea began, in 1947 the vodun fought a civil war against the muslim africans that saw thousands expelled and in 1948, after defeating most of their neighbours in war, the Republic of Zion was declared.
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With apologies to Brainbin, not my cup of iced tea.Just the politics, then.
Bene Tleilax
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With apologies to Brainbin, not my cup of iced tea.
How 'bout Fight and be Right or A Greater Britain?
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Did a US FABR ages ago, a UK one or somewhere else would be fun.How 'bout Fight and be Right or A Greater Britain?
Bene Tleilax
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a UK one or somewhere else would be fun.
The UK is the setting...
What was the US one like?
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Yes I know it was the setting but Ed also gave us a list of all Presidents up to 1940 so I went to the 80s IIRC.The UK is the setting...
What was the US one like?
Bene Tleilax
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Yes I know it was the setting but Ed also gave us a list of all Presidents up to 1940 so I went to the 80s IIRC.
I was hinting that a UK setting would indeed be fun.
Also here's my attempt at an ATLF for AGB that I wrote last year...
1940-47: William Graham (Labour)
1947-53: Rab Butler (Conservative)
1953-62: David Maxwell Fife (Conservative)
1962-64: Reggie Maudling (Conservative)
1964-73: George Brown (Labour)
1973-78: Enoch Powell (Conservative)
1978-83: Roy Jenkins (Labour)
1983- : Alan Clark (Labour)
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