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Alternate Careers of Notable People Thread


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Open for all, ofc

For instance,

Barack Hussein Obama (b. 1961)
State Representative: 1995-1997
State Senator: 1997-2003
U.S. Representative: 2003-2011
Illinois Attorney General: 2011-2015
Governor of Illinois: 2015-2021
President: 2021-Incumbent
Morris Udall

Basketball player, University of Arizona (1941-1945)
Basketball player, Missouri Valley League Denver Nuggets (1945-1950), Phillips 66ers (1950-1952), Pittsburgh Pipers (1952-1960)

1962: Democratic-Liberal candidate for Governor of Oklahoma
Running-Mate: Fred Harris
Defeated by Jelly Bryce (Republican) 53%-43%

1963-1963: Private Citizen (Democratic-Liberal)
1963-1968: United States Supervisor to League of Nations Territory of Ubangi (
Appointed by: Frank Morse
1968-1968: Private Citizen (Democratic-Liberal)
1968-1974: Basketball coach,
University of Oklahoma
1974-1981: United States Senator from Oklahoma (Democratic-Liberal)
1974: Appointed by Fred Harris
1974 Special def. [46.88%] Robert Kamm (Republican) [46.76%], Carla Luper (Socialist) [6.22%]
1978 def. [
68.3%] Gar Graham (Republican) [28.7%]

1981-1989: President of the United States (Democratic-Liberal)
1980 def. (with Helen Savio) Wendell Corey (Republican), John Reuther (Socialist), John Rarick (National)
1984 def. [backed by Socialist] (with Helen Savio) Thomas Moorer (Republican / National)

1989-1991: Private Citizen (Democratic-Liberal)
1991-1998: Commissioner of the Missouri Valley Basketball League
Mao Zedong (1893-1984) Later "Zachary Mao"
Member of the Chinese House of Representatives: 1918-1920
-Elected 1918
-Resigned following election to the Senate
Member of the Chinese Senate: 1920-1928
-Elected 1920-S
-Re-Elected 1922

-Chamber dissolved
President of China: 1927-1930
-Assumed Office 1927 (following death of the President and VP)
-Re-Elected 1929 (first (and only) direct vote in a landslide)
-Removed via Military Coup
President of the People's Social Democratic Party: 1920-1931 (Banned 1931)
Adjunct Professor of Foreign Policy, Columbia University: 1932-1935
Professor of Foreign Policy, Columbia University: 1935-1936
Professor of Foreign Affairs & Chinese Culture, Georgetown University: 1936-1940
Director of the Center for Asian Studies, Georgetown University: 1940-1942

Assistant Secretary of State for Lend-Lease Foreign Engagement: 1940-1941
Chief Presidential Advisor for China: 1940-1946, 1947-1948
Under Secretary of State for the Far East: 1941-1942
Deputy Secretary of State for the Far East: 1942-1945
Deputy Civilian Administrator of Occupied Japan: 1945-1947
Acting Civilian Administrator of Occupied Japan: 1947-1947
Deputy Secretary of State: 1947-1949
Interim President of Georgetown University: 1949-1950
U.S. Representative: 1951-1955

-Elected 1950
-Re-Elected 1952
President of Georgetown University: 1955-1961
Secretary of State: 1961-1964
Vice President: 1964-1964
President: 1964-1969

-Assumed Office 1964 (following LBJ's death of a heart attack in late November of 1964)
I accept that. However, even without a legal change, just with Mao as a migrant to the USA, he could have ended up as Secretary of State a la Henry Kissinger. Indeed Arnold Schwarzenegger could have held/hold that role.
I accept that. However, even without a legal change, just with Mao as a migrant to the USA, he could have ended up as Secretary of State a la Henry Kissinger. Indeed Arnold Schwarzenegger could have held/hold that role.
Yes. And your point is?
I accept that. However, even without a legal change, just with Mao as a migrant to the USA, he could have ended up as Secretary of State a la Henry Kissinger. Indeed Arnold Schwarzenegger could have held/hold that role.

Mao as Kissinger living to a ludicrous age would be very good too.
Couple more ideas in the Zachary Mao Cinematic Universe:

The Great Leap Forward was a government program launched by U.S. President Mao Zedong in 1965. It was designed to improve the living conditions of rural Americans. The slogan of the initiative was "exceeding Sweden, matching Switzerland" in reference to the plan to increase the standard of living to a level around that of Sweden and matching that of Switzerland.

The program had several key tenants, including the federal backing of rural healthcare providers, rural electrification, and restrictions on pollution. The Great Leap Forward is seen as a major success, with somewhere between 15 and 55 million people being lifted out of poverty due to it.

The Hundred Flowers Campaign was a government initiative launched in 1966 by President Mao Zedong. The goal of the project was to improve the American ecosystem and beautify the country in general.

Phase One of the program was launched soon after the project itself, focusing on helping the environment. This was realized with the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, which are both credited with improving smog and water pollution, respectively. To help sell the legislation to Congress, a program to offer jobs to young Americans willing to move to rural areas to work in critical functions and a small tax on things like steel production were implemented.

Phase Two of the program started roughly a year later. It focused on eliminating things deemed 'unsightly'. Things such as billboards and old railroad tracks were torn down and replaced with either greenery or things deemed to be more important. The project also included the placement of power lines into the ground, particularly following the Northwestern Blackout of 1967.

Phase One is considered by most to be a success, while Phase Two is more controversial. The President, for his part, participated in several of his trademark 'self-criticism' sessions, where he heard from many public officials and organization representatives who disagreed.

The Launching Satellites Initiative was an expansion of John F. Kennedy's New Frontier. It set out concrete goals for NASA to meet, culminating in the moon landings of December 1968. It also featured the introduction of a national satellite system, which ensured low-cost public information broadcasting to all American citizens, and countless others worldwide. While mostly a success, further plans to decrease the cost of phone calls via quicker transmission were defunded by Mao's successor.

The Cultural Revolution is a term used by scholars to describe the mass cultural change that took place in the United States in the mid to late 1960s. It was helped by several extremely liberal rulings by the Supreme Court, mainly by the liberal wing of William Douglas, Abe Fortas, Arthur Goldberg, Thurgood Marshall, and Earl Warren.

The revolution was led by young Americans, along with those who had grown more accepting after fighting with Black and Asian people during the Second World War (with Mao's influence during WWII, the desegregation order happens in 1944 instead of OTL). President Mao was reportedly convinced to support the movement following his meeting with leaders of the 7,000 Cadres Conference, which was a group of students from around the country who demanded an end to the conservative order that dominated most aspects of American society.

The Cultural Revolution would eventually result in the legalization of abortion, an end to the death penalty, and further protections for freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Maoism is a political movement based on the actions and writings of Mao Zedong, who served as the 37th President of the United States from 1964 to 1969. It is generally characterized as a fusion of mainstream social liberalism, social democracy, and internationalism. Specifically, it operates on the notion that the individual should control the day to day things in their life, but also that all individuals owe money to the government as part of a 'social contract' to help the less fortunate.
"What if Phyllis Schlafly won her 1970 campaign but became a dumb backbencher who lost after two terms"

Phyllis Schlafly (1924-2017)

U.S. Representative for Illinois's 23rd District:
January 3, 1971 - January 3, 1975
Deputy Secretary of State: July 14, 1981 - January 14, 1987

1952: Ran for IL-24 against Charles Price (D), Lost 64.8%-35.2%
Ran for IL-24 against Charles Price (D), Lost 72.2%-27.8%
Ran for IL-23 against George Shipley (D), Won 50.4%-49.6%
Ran for IL-23 against Paul Simon (D), Won 51.2%-48.8%
Ran for IL-23 against Paul Simon (D), Lost 59.1%-40.9%
Ran for IL-23 against Paul Simon (D), Lost 67.5%-31.9%
Ran for Illinois Governor against Neil Hartigan (D), Lost 53.9%-45.4%
No Party Switching, part 1:

Joe Biden (b. 1942)
Party: Republican since 1968 (Independent before 1968)

Candidate for Senate from Delaware, 1972
Lost to John D. Daniello

Governor of Delaware, 1977-1985

Candidate for President, 1984
Lost nomination to Richard Lugar

Attorney General, 1985-1989
Served under President Lugar

Senator from Delaware, 1991-2001

President of the United States, 2001-2009
Harvey Milk (1930-1997)

of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors: January 8, 1978 - January 1, 1980
'77 def. OTL
Mayor of the City of San Francisco: January 1, 1980 - June 1, 1987
'79 def. Quentin Kopp (I), 50.67%-49.33%
'83 def. Quentin Kopp (I), 57.16%-42.84%
U.S. Representative from California's 5th District: June 2, 1987 - January 3, 1993
'87 def. Harriet Ross (R), 59.22%-36.98%
'88 def. Harriet Ross (R), 64.92%-30.11%
'90 def. Dan White (R), 70.14%-28.13%
U.S. Senator from California: January 3, 1993 - October 3, 1996
'92 def. Bruce Herschensohn (R), 47.6%-45.0%
Getúlio Dornelles Vargas (1882–1961)

State Deputy (1908–1922)
• President of Rio Grande do Sul Province (1922–1930)
• MP for São Borja (1930–1931)
• Senator for Rio Grande do Sul (1931–1960)

Political parties:

• PRR (1908–1930)
• PR (1930–1951)
• PDC (1951–1961)
Arnold Schwarzenegger was good friends with wrestlers 'Superstar' Billy Graham and Andre the Giant. Could easily see him enter professional wrestling after his retirement from bodybuilding in 1980, that is if his acting career doesn't take off.

Mind if I expand on this? where Arnie is a wrestler during the 80s? Just as a short piece
Not at all would be interested to read

Brill, I've started writing it. TBH there are so many "big guys" in the WWF in the 80s I could see him ending up in something like a foreign menace role alongside someone like Nikolai Volkoff and/or Sheikhy baby, especially with them as more experienced guys covering for his inexperience.

Hulk Vs Arnie would surely happen at some point though. Beyond that it depends if he goes back into acting and how well that goes from the early 90s onwards.
Jair Messias Bolsonaro (1957–)

• Parachute infantryman (1979–1996)
• Active Bazilian Army officer (1996–2004)
• Retired Brazilian Army officer (2004–2008)
• City Councillor for Rio de Janeiro (2008–2010)
• MP for Rio de Janeiro (2010–present)
• Leader of the Brazilian Nationalist Party (2015–present)

Political parties:

• PNB (2008–)

Bolsonaro fought in the Angolan Civil War. In 1981, the Empire of Brazil, then led by Prime Minister Paulo Maluf, intervened in Angola in order to defend the right-wing FNLA government from the Maoist UNITA, whom were paradoxically backed by the Eastern Bloc. UNITA was defeated by 1989, and Bolsonaro distinguished himself as a paratrooper.