- Location
- NYC (né Falkirk)
- Pronouns
- he/him
One thing we don't talk enough about in alternate history is World War II generally and Nazi Germany more specifically. We also don't seem to yet have a thread on this specific issue so given today's date (with apologies to everyone points east of the Caspian Sea) what if Claus von Stauffenberg had succeeded in killing Hitler with a bomb in the conference room of the Wolf's Lair in 1944?
Or, to put a specific spin on it... just how bad could things get?
In the immediate aftermath, are we looking at the outbreak of civil war in Germany and the occupied territories between the Wehrmacht and the SS? Not just across Germany but at the fronts themselves. Would the soldiers on the Eastern Front be so keen to start arresting members of the SS when the Red Army is at the door?
In the medium term, would the Allies even do business with any post-assassination government? Even aside from being bogged down in a civil war, the conspirators had some rather lofty goals regarding territorial claims. In France, for example, plenty of generals were involved in the plot, do they attempt to evacuate back to Germany?
In the long term, presuming (and a big presumption at that) they are able to negotiate something other than the OTL occupation, what does this mean for any post-War Germany? A lot of the leading figures in the plot were complicit in war crimes, and all weren't exactly fond of the liberal democracy of the Weimar Republic.
Or, to put a specific spin on it... just how bad could things get?
In the immediate aftermath, are we looking at the outbreak of civil war in Germany and the occupied territories between the Wehrmacht and the SS? Not just across Germany but at the fronts themselves. Would the soldiers on the Eastern Front be so keen to start arresting members of the SS when the Red Army is at the door?
In the medium term, would the Allies even do business with any post-assassination government? Even aside from being bogged down in a civil war, the conspirators had some rather lofty goals regarding territorial claims. In France, for example, plenty of generals were involved in the plot, do they attempt to evacuate back to Germany?
In the long term, presuming (and a big presumption at that) they are able to negotiate something other than the OTL occupation, what does this mean for any post-War Germany? A lot of the leading figures in the plot were complicit in war crimes, and all weren't exactly fond of the liberal democracy of the Weimar Republic.