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Nothing but Schadenfreude: A Test Thread

Van Buren being nominated happens because the Democratic Convention scraps the 2/3rds rule as some point, and Van Buren is able to portray himself as someone who wants to annex up to 54'40. Also, Weller just isn't great, and they need someone with high name recognition to avoid nominating him

As for the Southern Rights party, they were never that strong in the first place. They basically just stop winning states as it becomes clear expansion of Slavery in the West ain't gonna stop. Also doesn't help most SRP folks support Weller in 1856

I see
 
2017-2021: Businessman Donald Trump (Republican)
2016 (with Mike Pence) def. Fmr. Secretary Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2020 (with Mike Pence) def. Fmr. Vice President Joe Biden (Democratic) [disputed by Congress]
• January 6th Capitol Insurrection - 2020 Presidential results in Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia are rejected, leading to the re-election of President Trump, following the deaths of Vice President Pence, Vice President-Elect Harris, 150+ pro-certification Representatives, and 60+ pre-certification Senators


2021 - 2021: Speaker Liz Cheney (Republican)
appoints Lloyd Austin as Vice President
January 20th impeachment and removal of Donald Trump - remaining Republicans in Congress remove Speaker McCarthy, replacing him with Liz Cheney, one of the survivors of J6, preparing for the impeachment of President Trump. Cheney appoints Biden's Defense Secretary nominee Lloyd Austin to the Vice Presidency before resigning, wishing to respect the 2020 victory of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
2021 - 20XX: Ret. General Lloyd Austin (Democratic)
 
A Golden City Upon the Potomac

1837 - 1840: Senator Hugh L. White (Whig)
1836 (with John Tyler) def. Vice President Martin Van Buren (Democratic), Fmr. Minister William H. Harrison (Whig), Senator Daniel Webster (Whig), Senator Willie Mangum (Whig)

1840 - 1844: Vice President John Tyler (Whig)
1840 (with John Davis) def. Senator Richard M. Johnson (Democratic), Fmr. Mayor James Birney (Liberty)

1844 - 1845: President John Tyler (Independent - Democratic-Republican)

1845 - 1849: Mayor Joseph Smith (Reform) (with Liberty support)
1844
(with Sidney Rigdon) def. Senator Thomas Hart Benton (Democratic), President John Tyler (Independent - Democratic-Republican), Senator Daniel Webster (Whig) (replacing Henry Clay)
1848 (with Sidney Rigdon) def. Senator Henry Clay Jr. (Whig), Senator Lewis Cass (Democratic), William C. Preston (Southern Whig)
 
The Last Federalist

1825 - 1829: Rep. Daniel Webster (Federalist)

1824 (with Albert Gallatin) def. Senator Andrew Jackson (Republican), Sen. William Crawford (Republican), Speaker Henry Clay (Republican), Secretary John Q. Adams (Republican)

1829 - 1837: Fmr. Sec. John Q. Adams (National Republican)

1828 (with Henry Clay) def. Senator John C. Calhoun (People's Republican), Vice President Albert Gallatin (Republican), Pres. Daniel Webster (Federalist)
1832 (with Henry Clay) def. Senator John C. Calhoun (People's Republican)
 
Biaggi's weird RNG stays weird

2021 - 20 : Rep. Elizabeth Esty (Democratic-NH)
2020 (with Fmr. Sec. Def. Ash Carter) def. Pres. Donald Trump (R-FL) / Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN), Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) / Fmr. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)
2024 (with Rep. Liz Mathis) def. Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) / Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-WA), Comedian Jimmy Dore (G-CA) / Fmr. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (G-HI)
 
Biaggi's weird RNG stays weird

2021 - 20 : Rep. Elizabeth Esty (Democratic-NH)
2020 (with Fmr. Sec. Def. Ash Carter) def. Pres. Donald Trump (R-FL) / Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN), Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) / Fmr. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)
2024 (with Rep. Liz Mathis) def. Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) / Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-WA), Comedian Jimmy Dore (G-CA) / Fmr. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (G-HI)
YES
 
Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda

""Alfalfa Bill" was very gracious ... While we talked at length, he dwelt upon the virtue in the possible candidacies of everybody except Franklin Roosevelt and himself, even suggesting me as a candidate."

1933 - 1940: Senator Huey P. Long (Democratic)
1932 (with William H. Murray) def. President Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 (with James Farley) def. Vice Pres. William H. Murray (Independent), Senator Alf Landon (Republican)
1940 - 1946: President Huey P. Long (Share Our Wealth)
1940 (with Burton K. Wheeler) def. Vice Pres. James Farley (Democratic), Justice Owen Roberts (Republican)
1944 (with Burton K. Wheeler) def. Gov. Theodore Roosevelt III (Republican), Fmr. Vice Pres. James Farley (Democratic)
1946 - 1953: President Huey P. Long (Common Wealth)
1948 (with Burton K. Wheeler) def. Fmr. Governor Sam Jones (Democratic), Ret. General Douglas MacArthur (Republican)

1953 - 1957: Vice Pres. Burton K. Wheeler (Common Wealth)
1952 (with Claude D. Pepper) def. Governor Thomas E. Dewey (Republican), Senator John Sparkman (Democratic)


1957 - 19XX: Senator Al Gore Sr. (Democratic)
1956 (with Ronald Reagan) def. Pres. Burton K. Wheeler (Common Wealth), Senator John S. Cooper (Republican), Fmr. Governor Earl Long (Independent)



Dem: 58A7A4
SoW/Common Wealth: 82A758
Rep: 7D58A7
Soc: A7585B
Ind. Dem: 83AFA9
Ind. CW: 92cb34
 
2025 - 20XX: Speaker Liz Cheney (Independent, nominated by Democrats)
2024 (with Andy Beshear) def. Fmr. Pres. Donald Trump (Republican) (with Jeanette Nuñez), Fmr. Speaker Justin Amash (Libertarian) (with Tom Campbell)
 
2025 - 20XX: Speaker Liz Cheney (Independent, nominated by Democrats)
2024 (with Andy Beshear) def. Fmr. Pres. Donald Trump (Republican) (with Jeanette Nuñez), Fmr. Speaker Justin Amash (Libertarian) (with Tom Campbell)
Missing a (paradoxically) notable People's Party campaign, other than that, 10/10, would scream in terror at 3am over this
 
1865 - 1869: Senator Lafayette Foster (Republican)
1869 - 1873: Secretary Benjamin F. Butler (Republican)
1868 (with William G. Brownlow) def. Fmr. Rep. George Pendleton (Democratic), Fmr. Speaker James L. Orr (National Union)

1873 - 1876: Ret. General Ulysses S. Grant (Independent-Republican-National Union)
1872 (with Simon Cameron) def. President Benjamin Butler (Butler's Own-Radical Republicans), Ret. Gen. William B. Franklin (Democratic)
1876 - 1877: Vice President Simon Cameron (Republican)

1877 - 18XX: Fmr. President Benjamin Butler (Butler's Own-Radical Republicans)

1876 (with James H. Hinds) def. President Simon Cameron (Republican), Ret. Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock (Democratic), Rep. Horace Greeley (Liberal Republican)
 
1789 - 1793: Governor Isaac Roosevelt (Non-Partisan - Federalist Aligned)
1788 def. Fmr. Governor John Rutledge (Federalist), Governor George Clinton (Anti-Federalist), Governor John Hancock (Federalist)


1793 - 1799: Fmr. Governor Patrick Henry (Non-Partisan - Republican Aligned)
1792 def. President Isaac Roosevelt (Federalist), Fmr. Minister Thomas Jefferson (Republican), Vice President John Randolph (Federalist)
1796 def. Vice President Isaac Roosevelt (Federalist), Governor John Marshall (Ind. Federalist), Fmr. Minister Thomas Jefferson (Democratic), Senator Samuel Johnston (Federalist), Assemblyman William Duane (Democratic)


1799 - 1805: Vice Pres. Isaac Roosevelt (Federalist)
1800 (with John Marshall) def. Governor James Madison (Republican), Fmr. Minister Thomas Jefferson (Democratic)
 
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An ATLF of The Real Deal? by Sabot Cat (WIP)

2009 - 2013:
Fmr. Pres. George W. Bush (Republican)

2008 (with Mitt Romney) def. Pres. John Kerry (Democratic)
2010 Senate elections: 53-46-1


2013 - 2017: Vice Pres. Mitt Romney (Republican)
2012 (with Condoleezza Rice) def. Fmr. Vice Pres. John Edwards (Democratic)

2012 Senate elections: 52-46-2
2014 Senate elections: 56-42-2

2017 -  present: Senator Daniel Mondiargo (Democratic)
2016 (with Ken Salazar) def. President Mitt Romney (Republican)

2020 (with Ken Salazar) def. Fmr. Governor Peter Pace (Republican), Fmr. Governor Tom Tancredo (Constitution)
 
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Presidents of the United States (Philadelphia Government)

1861 - 1865: Senator William H. Seward (Republican)

1860 (with Thaddeus Stevens) def. Senator Jefferson Davis (Democratic)

1865 - 1866: Ret. General John C. Frémont (Radical)
1864 (with Cassius Clay) def. Pres. William H. Seward (Republican), Fmr. Senator John Bell (Unionist), Rep. Horace Greeley (Communist), Abolitionist Frederick Douglass (Faithless)

Presidents of the United States (Richmond Government)

1861 - 1866: Senator Jefferson Davis (Democratic)

1860 (with Stephen Douglas) def. Senator William H. Seward (Republican)
1864 (with Benjamin F. Butler) def. Vice Pres. Stephen Douglas (Independent Democratic), Fmr. Sen. John Bell (Unionist), Rep. Laurence Keitt (States' Rights)


Presidents of the United States (Second Republic)

1866 - 1869: Pres. Jefferson Davis (Democratic)
1869 - 1877: Vice Pres. Benjamin Butler (Democratic)
 
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