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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Inspired by a Prime Minister Infinity Game I played

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED KINGDOM
Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats-Labour) coalition (2010-2013)
10: Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), David Cameron (Conservatives), Gordon Brown (Labour)
11 Electoral Reform Referendum: 59% YES led by Nick Clegg, 41% NO led by Ken Clarke

George Osborne (Conservatives-UKIP) coalition (2013-2016)
13: George Osborne (Conservatives), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), John McDonnell (Labour), Nigel Farage (UKIP), Caroline Lucas (Greens)
15 EU Referendum: 53% YES led by Nick Clegg and George Osborne, 47% NO led by Nigel Farage and Kate Hoey

Andy Burnham (Labour-Liberal Democrats-Greens-NHS Action) coalition (2016-0000)
16: Andy Burnham (Labour), George Osborne (Conservatives), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), Nigel Farage (UKIP), Sian Berry & Jonathan Bartley (Greens), Alex Salmond ("Salmondite" SNP), Fiona Hyslop & Patrick Harvie (Scottish Greens) & (Independent SNP), George Galloway (RESPECT/Socialist/Militant/TUSC/SWP "The Left"), Richard Taylor (NHS Action)
Ha this ending literally vindicates Tony Benn’s tactical argument against PR because he fears it would make a leftist government impossible
 
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I can only assume that you hate the people of India even more than Albert the Singularity did to inflict this upon them. :p

It certainly isn’t a nice timeline to be an Indian indeed, though I did try to end it on an optimistic note.

It goes without saying that Subhas Chandra Bose was awful. Even putting aside that he wanted to make India “independent” by making it a Japanese colony, he was a wannabe military dictator who wanted to utilize viciously authoritarian means to modernize India. He believed India wasn’t ready for democracy; there are a lot of problems with that statement, most of all that it’s exactly the same logic the Britishers used to deny India independence.

Cariappa was in OTL the army chief of staff of India from 1949 to 1953. He was very vocal about his politics, and he supported the 1958 Pakistani military coup. He also wrote a note in 1971 calling for the Constitution to be scrapped and for a temporary military dictatorship to take control of the nation with the consent of the people - very bizarre stuff.
 
It certainly isn’t a nice timeline to be an Indian indeed, though I did try to end it on an optimistic note.

It goes without saying that Subhas Chandra Bose was awful. Even putting aside that he wanted to make India “independent” by making it a Japanese colony, he was a wannabe military dictator who wanted to utilize viciously authoritarian means to modernize India. He believed India wasn’t ready for democracy; there are a lot of problems with that statement, most of all that it’s exactly the same logic the Britishers used to deny India independence.

Cariappa was in OTL the army chief of staff of India from 1949 to 1953. He was very vocal about his politics, and he supported the 1958 Pakistani military coup. He also wrote a note in 1971 calling for the Constitution to be scrapped and for a temporary military dictatorship to take control of the nation with the consent of the people - very bizarre stuff.

By the way, as a fun reference, Murray Rothbard, who famously said that the South had been on the right side in the American Civil War, and who strongly felt that the United States should have remained neutral in World War II, under mysterious circumstances took the view that the Bangladesh Liberation War was one of those few wars which was totally justified, and felt that Indira Gandhi had done the right thing by interfering on the side of the Bengali.

Now, admittedly, it's hard not to sympathize with the people of Bangladesh at the time, seeing they were fighting against a military dictatorship that was committing literal genocide against them, but I still cannot help but find it a bit odd that not just did Murray Rothbard take an interest in India, he also had very strong opinions about it.
 
By the way, as a fun reference, Murray Rothbard, who famously said that the South had been on the right side in the American Civil War, and who strongly felt that the United States should have remained neutral in World War II, under mysterious circumstances took the view that the Bangladesh Liberation War was one of those few wars which was totally justified, and felt that Indira Gandhi had done the right thing by interfering on the side of the Bengali.

Now, admittedly, it's hard not to sympathize with the people of Bangladesh at the time, seeing they were fighting against a military dictatorship that was committing literal genocide against them, but I still cannot help but find it a bit odd that not just did Murray Rothbard take an interest in India, he also had very strong opinions about it.

I suppose given that Rothbard was 19 at the end of WWII he experienced it in a different way, emotionally, than Bangladesh all those years later. Bit rum not to reconsider your other positions afterwards, though.
 
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I suppose given that Rothbard was 19 at the end of WWII he experienced it in a different way, emotionally, than Bangladesh all those years later. Bit rum not to reconsider your other positions afterwards, though.

Imagine being a teenager during both the attack on Pearl Harbor and the discovery of the death camps that, in another lifetime your parents (both Jews who immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe) would have been sent to, and still somehow coming away with "we should have been neutral."
 
Imagine being a teenager during both the attack on Pearl Harbor and the discovery of the death camps that, in another lifetime your parents (both Jews who immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe) would have been sent to, and still somehow coming away with "we should have been neutral."

Hey, teenagers are weird as shit, we've known that for years.
 
Imagine being a teenager during both the attack on Pearl Harbor and the discovery of the death camps that, in another lifetime your parents (both Jews who immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe) would have been sent to, and still somehow coming away with "we should have been neutral."
Rothbard boasted that he was the only Jew he’d knew of who voted for Strom Thurmond in 1948.
 
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Inspired by a Prime Minister Infinity Game I played

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED KINGDOM
Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats-Labour) coalition (2010-2013)
10: Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), David Cameron (Conservatives), Gordon Brown (Labour)
11 Electoral Reform Referendum: 59% YES led by Nick Clegg, 41% NO led by Ken Clarke

George Osborne (Conservatives-UKIP) coalition (2013-2016)
13: George Osborne (Conservatives), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), John McDonnell (Labour), Nigel Farage (UKIP), Caroline Lucas (Greens)
15 EU Referendum: 53% Remain led by Nick Clegg and George Osborne, 47% Leave led by Nigel Farage and Kate Hoey

Andy Burnham (Labour-Liberal Democrats-Greens-NHS Action) coalition (2016-0000)
16: Andy Burnham (Labour), George Osborne (Conservatives), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrats), Nigel Farage (UKIP), Sian Berry & Jonathan Bartley (Greens), Alex Salmond ("Salmondite" SNP), Fiona Hyslop & Patrick Harvie (Scottish Greens) & (Independent SNP), George Galloway (RESPECT/Socialist/Militant/TUSC/SWP "The Left"), Richard Taylor (NHS Action)
America in this Timeline:

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democratic) (2009-2013)
08: John McCain/Sarah Palin (Republican)
Mike Huckabee/Rick Santorum (2013-2017)
12: Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democratic), Mike Bloomberg/Christine Todd Whitman (Americans Elect), Bernie Sanders/Howie Hawkins (Green)
Hillary Clinton/Andrew Romanoff (2017-0000)
16: Mike Huckabee/Rick Santorum (Republican), Ron Paul/Gary Johnson (Libertarian), Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein (Green), Joseph Cao/Charles Djou (Unity)
20: Carly Florina/Rand Paul (Republican/Libertarian), Jerry Falwell Jr./several running mates (Constitution/Christian), Jim Webb/Buddy Roemer (Unity), Jill Stein/Howie Hawkins (Green)
 
Hillary Clinton/Andrew Romanoff (2017-0000)
16: Mike Huckabee/Rick Santorum (Republican), Ron Paul/Gary Johnson (Libertarian), Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein (Green), Joseph Cao/Charles Djou (Unity)

i kind of doubt that Bernie would run Green given the scenario but im not sure about your thought process; he didn't even run Green IOTL after the Democratic Party did everything they could to say Fuck You Bernie! and that's without someone like Colorado god-king H.A Romanoff, the dude who has been running primaries against established Democrats in the name of, in essence, a Green New Deal in all but name for like a decade being on the Democratic ticket

Hillary picked Tim Kaine as her running mate IOTL and Bernie still happily endorsed the Dems after they openly conspired against him for the entire Primary season
 
I kind of doubt that Bernie would run Green given the scenario but im not sure about your thought process; he didn't even run Green IOTL after the Democratic Party did everything they could to say Fuck You Bernie! and that's without someone like Colorado god-king H.A Romanoff, the dude who has been running primaries against established Democrats in the name of, in essence, a Green New Deal in all but name for like a decade being on the Democratic ticket

Hillary picked Tim Kaine as her running mate IOTL and Bernie still happily endorsed the Dems after they openly conspired against him for the entire Primary season
Barack Obama gets primaried by Sanders and Sanders does very well in the primary, and due to Obama being very hostile to Sanders and due to him having to run against Howard Dean back home in Vermont, Sanders joins the Greens in 2012 and gets their nomination very easily, and gets 8% and he wins Vermont. In 2016 he runs for the Green nomination due to being the Green nominee in 2012 and gets around 7% and wins Vermont again very narrowly by a few hundred votes

Bernie is elected as a Green Senator from Vermont in 2018 and defeats Senator Howard Dean due to popular Republican Lt. Governor Phil Scott running.

In this timeline, the Green Party is a more viable party, having a Senator (Bernie Sanders), and a few Representatives, and around two hundred state legislators.

This might be a wank but then again, I doubt that most things in this TL could have happened.
 
His leaving the LU basically set up the rest of his theory of political change. When he was first elected mayor a bunch of his aides and allies on city council wanted him to join Barry Commoner's Citizens Party but Bernie refused to affiliate with them.

alternate timeline where Bernie joins the Commoners and sets up butterflies that destroys the two party system
 
The big thing about this is that it goes against Sanders' general policy of not supporting third party candidates and not affiliating with minor political parties.

I think the best way to change that would be to have the dems fuck with him in Vermont, not just nationally. As long as his seat as senator isn't threatened, he's not going to rock the boat.
 
just a silly little exercise in butterfly murder

Kings of England

1199-1216: John I 'Lackland' (Anjou)
1216-1226: Lewis I 'The Lion' (Capet), from 1223 also King of France
1226-1270: Lewis II 'The Saint' (Capet), also King of France
1270-1285: Philip I 'The Bold' (Capet), also King of France
1285-1314: Philip II 'The Iron King' (Capet), also King of France and of Navarre until 1305, and Overlord of Scotland from 1291
1314-1316: Lewis III 'The Stubborn' (Capet), also King of France and Navarre, and Overlord of Scotland
1316-1316: John II 'The Posthumous' (Capet), also King of France and Navarre, and Overlord of Scotland
1316-1322: Philip III 'The Tall' (Capet), also King of France and Navarre, and Overlord of Scotland
1322-1328: Charles 'The Fair' (Capet), also King of France and Navarre, and Overlord of Scotland
1328-1337: Philip IV 'Of Valois' (Valois), also King of France, and Overlord of Scotland
1337-0000: Edward 'Of Windsor' (Windsor), also Overlord of Scotland

i like that ittl there's probably still historians who note the 'Angevin Empire' but that it exists from the reign of Henry II through to the crisis upon Philip IV's accession to the English throne, as the houses of of Capet and Valois were both cadet houses of the house of Anjou.
 
I think the best way to change that would be to have the dems fuck with him in Vermont, not just nationally. As long as his seat as senator isn't threatened, he's not going to rock the boat.
The most that might accomplish though is him just refusing to work with the Democrats (as his willingness to do so came later in the 80s) without a major credible national political alternative
 
1993-1997: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
defeated George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle, Ross Perot/James Stockdale
1997-2005: Alan Keyes/John Danforth
defeated Al Gore/Bill Bradley, Ross Perot/Althea Garrison (United We Stand!)
defeated
Ralph Nader/Mike Gravel
2005-2013: Rudy Giuliani/Tom Coburn

defeated Harry Lee/Joe Biden
defeated
Dennis Kucinich/Kent Conrad
2013-2017: Alan Grayson/Peter Navarro
defeated Joe Arpaio/Lindsey Graham, Jesse Ventura/Gatewood Galbraith (Justice)

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