• Hi Guest!

    The costs of running this forum are covered by Sea Lion Press. If you'd like to help support the company and the forum, visit patreon.com/sealionpress

Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

—Snip—
1989-1997: George H.W.Bush (Republican)
1988 (With Kay A. Orr) def: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
1992 (With Kay A. Orr) def: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democratic), Ross Perot/Jerry Brown (Independent)

1997-2005: John Kerry (Democratic)
1996 (With Frank Tejeda) def: Kay A. Orr/Dick Lugar (Republican), Ross Perot/Dick Lamm (Reform)
2000 (With Frank Tejeda) def: John McCain/John Kasich (Republican), Donald Trump/Pat O'Rourke (Reform)

2005-2009: Fred Thompson (Republican)
2005 (With Mitt Romney) def: Frank Tejeda/John Edwards (Democratic), Pat O’Rourke/Krist Novoselic (Reform)
2009-2013: Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2008 (With Gary Locke) def: Fred Thompson/Mitt Romney (Republican), Jesse Ventura/Michael Badnarik (Libertarian), Mike Gravel/Daryl Hannah (Green)
2013-2017: Mitt Romney (Republican)
2012 (With Rick Perry) def: Hillary Clinton/Gary Locke (Democratic), Bruce Sterling/Krysten Sinema (Code Green Alliance)
2017-: Brian Schweitzer (Democratic)
2016 (With Hilda Solis) def: Mitt Romney/Rick Perry (Republican)
2020 (With Hilda Solis) def: Ted Cruz/Rick Santorum (Republican), Howard Schultz/Krist Novoselic (Independent), Beto O’Rourke/Lawrence Lessing (Reform:2020)
 
Heads of the Yankee Outfit

1903-1915: William “Big Bill” Devery/Frankie Farrell (Tammany)

1915: Ousted in internal coup
1915-1923: Jacob “The Colonel” Ruppert/Tillinghast “Cap” Huston (Tammany)
1923: Ruppert forced Huston out, seizing complete control of the Outfit
1923-1939: Jacob “The Colonel” Ruppert (Ruppert Clique)
1939: Ruppert dies, his children are not interested in the position, Third-In Command Fast Eddie is made Head
1939-1945: “Fast” Eddie Barrow (Ruppert Clique)
1945: Fast Eddie is 'encouraged' to retire by a syndicate of "New Blood"
1945-1947: Larry MacPhail†/"Steel Man" Dan Topping/Del Webb (New Syndicate)
1947: MacPhail is assassinated by an unknown party, likely hired by Topping and Webb
1947-1964: "Steel Man" Dan Topping/Del Webb (New Syndicate)
1964: Webb decides to 'go legit' and Topping gains sole executive power, aligning with the Columbia System
1964-1966: "Steel Man" Dan Topping (Columbia Bookkeeping)
1966: Topping retires and the System appoints a Company Man
1966-1973: Mike “Big E” Burke (Columbia Bookkeeping)
1973: Shipping Magnate Steinbrenner wrests the Outfit from the System and reorganizes the Outfit in his image
1973-2008: George “The Boss” Steinbrenner (Steinbrenner Clique)
2008: The Boss retires and leaves the Outfit in his sons' hands
2008-2020: Hal Steinbrenner/Hank "Junior" Steinbrenner (Steinbrenner Clique)
2020: Hal dies, leaving Junior as sole Head of the Outfit
2020-Present: Hank "Junior" Steinbrenner (Steinbrenner Clique)

The Yankee Outfit is an infamous Criminal Organization that has dominated the Northeastern United States for over a Century, even expanding operations throughout the country under the leadership of longtime lynchpin “Boss” George Steinbrenner. The Outfit started out as an affiliate of the Tammany Hall political machine, running the city’s pool halls and sports betting operations. “Colonel” Ruppert however expanded the Outfit’s operations with Prohibition, with the proceeds from Rumrunning allowing them to go independent. The Ruppert Clique was built upon the work of its “Murderers’ Row”, with great gangsters like George “Babe” Ruth and Lou “Iron Horse” Gehrig crushing any competition.

Ruppert died in 1939, leaving the Outfit without a single executive vision, with “Fast Eddie” content to not rock the boat. Barrow was displaced by the “New Syndicate” led by Larry MacPhail of the Cincinnati Outfit, who was himself ‘divested’ following a public argument with his partners in 1947. After Webb retired in 1964, Topping began to look to the future and believed the future lay with the corporatization of crime, and aligned with the Columbia Bookkeeping Syndicate, an alliance of likeminded outfits. The CBS collapsed in 1973 and Boss Steinbrenner went independent again and molded the Yankee Outfit into the national organization it is today.
 
View attachment 40560

Monarchs of the United Kingdom

1952-1981: Elizabeth II (Windsor)
1981-2021: Charles III (Windsor)
2021-0000: William V (Windsor)

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

1979-1982: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Majority) def. Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1982-1983: Willie Whitelaw (Conservative majority)
1983-1984: Harold Macmillan, 1st Earl of Stockton (Conservative led National Government)
1984-1984: Harold Macmillan, 1st Earl of Stockton (Conservative led Caretaker Government)
1984; David Steel (Liberal), Michael Foot (Labour), disputed (Social Democratic), vacant (Conservative), Robert Bradford (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1989: David Owen (SDP-Conservative coalition, with Liberal confidence and supply)
1989-1993: David Owen (Social Democratic)
1989 (Coalition with Greens and Conservatives) def. Tony Benn (Labour), David Icke (Green), Jimmy Goldsmith (Conservative), David Penhaligon (Liberal), Robert Bradford (Ulster Unionist)
1993-1994: 'Cabinet Government' (SDP-Green-Conservative coalition, with UUP confidence and supply)
1994-1998: Jimmy Goldsmith (Peoples')
1994 (Majority) def. collective (Democratic Opposition - Labour, Liberals, Greens), Ian Paisley (Ulster Unionist)
1998-1999: Alan Clark (Peoples' majority)
1999-2004: 'Cabinet Government' (Peoples')
1999 (Majority) def. Dennis Skinner (Labour), David Icke (Turquoise Alliance - Turquoise Group, UUP), collective (United Democracy)
2004-2014: Tim Collins (Peoples')
2004 (Majority) def. Dennis Skinner (Labour), Peter Hain (United Democracy), David Icke (Turquoise Alliance - Turquoise Group, UUP)
2009 (Majority) def. Dennis Skinner (Labour), Nick Griffin (National Front), 'Hunter S. Thompson' (United Democracy), David Icke (Turquoise Group), Peter Robinson (Ulster Unionist)

2014-2021: Zac Goldsmith (Peoples')
2014 (Majority) def. Nick Griffin (National Front), Dennis Skinner (Labour), 'Johnny Depp' (United Democracy), Peter Robinson (Ulster Unionist)
2019 (Majority) def. Steven Patrick Morrissey (National Front), J.K. Rowling (United Democracy), Dave Nellist (Socialist Alternative), Edwin Poots (Ulster Unionist)

2021-0000: 'Cabinet Government' (Peoples' majority)

The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary democracy. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

In 1981, Queen Elizabeth II was assassinated while on a state visit in New Zealand. This plunged the Westminster Government into a constitutional crisis, terminally weakening then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's leadership. This was accentuated by emerging allegations of widespread sexually predatory behaviour, and her protecting certain perpetrators allied to her political project. In 1982 she left of her own accord. While Whitelaw did some patching, his own leadership was undermined by the loss of the Malvinas Islands to Argentina. While the Tories had adopted elections for their leadership in the 1960s, this was an unprecedented moment of crisis. The King intervened, forming a National Government led by former Prime Minister Macmillan from the Lords.

Macmillan continued to lead after the 1984 elections and the immediate collapse of the SDP-Liberal Alliance as Roy Jenkins and David Owen fell out over the circumstances of building a governing coalition. Once again, the King intervened, smoothing the path to a broad (and anti-socialist) coalition. Owen would govern for nearly a decade, facing off against a firmly republican Labour leadership, enduring the near collapse of the Liberal Party over the aftermath of Thatcher era revelations and the continued confidence and supply agreement, and taking the insurgent rise of the Greens in his stride.

In 1993 however, the wheels came off Owen's government - David Icke had been an invaluable ally in ensuring his governing coalition's viability. The start of his 'Turquoise Period' put an end to that as he began to speak openly of conspiracies, involving the British monarchy amongst others. While the Green Party splintered into multiple shards, and Owen was forced to submit his resignation, King Charles entered the Cabinet Office to chair meetings of his Ministers personally. The brief 'Cabinet Government' saw the formalisation of what had been happening for over a decade - deep personal involvement of the monarchy in the day to day running of the country. And to ensure his legacy was secured, the allies of the King were formalised into the Peoples' Party. Including hard-right adherents of absolute monarchy and running across to christian democrats and centrist ecologists, the Peoples' Party is the de facto parliamentary wing of Buckingham Palace.

The undermining of the Opposition has become routine and almost naked. The Labour Party became a party of doctrinaire republican socialism, unwilling to collaborate with potential allies in the former Liberal and Green Parties, while the conspiratorial fusion of Ickeists and British Israelites in Ulster was tolerated to present a contrast to the governing party. With the eventual collapse of that alliance, the National Front was sponsored, fragmenting Labour support in their working class heartlands and of the UDP in their prosperous suburbs. The UDP became ensnared by 'celebrity politics', initially as a publicity gimmick, and now formally under the leadership of Rowling who has led their party in a similarly conspiratorial route - albeit one that distracts from the true conspiracy that has centralised power in the monarchy's hands more thoroughly than any time for nearly three centuries.

But change is afoot. The charade is falling apart, as Prince William undertakes a palace coup, holding in his hands the receipts of bloody assassinations. Now in power, William shows no sign of seeking to restore true parliamentary democracy. But the founding articles of the modern British state have been aired in public. The naked display of Royal power has rankled, and a client media establishment finds it difficult to adapt without totally revealing their abject surrender to monarchical authority, or fall afoul of Palace disapproval.
 
British take on the Iranian Rastakhiz?
I got strong United Russia vibes, what with the cultivated opposition of lunatics, fascists, and shambolic liberals who exist to demonstrate the folly of democracy.

Though I'm not sure who out of Morrissey vs. Zhirinovsky should be more offended by the comparison I've leapt to.
 
But change is afoot. The charade is falling apart, as Prince William undertakes a palace coup, holding in his hands the receipts of bloody assassinations. Now in power, William shows no sign of seeking to restore true parliamentary democracy. But the founding articles of the modern British state have been aired in public. The naked display of Royal power has rankled, and a client media establishment finds it difficult to adapt without totally revealing their abject surrender to monarchical authority, or fall afoul of Palace disapproval.

Who's the most prominent British opposition figure outside its Parliament's political system?
 
But change is afoot. The charade is falling apart, as Prince William undertakes a palace coup, holding in his hands the receipts of bloody assassinations. Now in power, William shows no sign of seeking to restore true parliamentary democracy. But the founding articles of the modern British state have been aired in public. The naked display of Royal power has rankled, and a client media establishment finds it difficult to adapt without totally revealing their abject surrender to monarchical authority, or fall afoul of Palace disapproval.

I kind of want to see a sequel called "For God, Harry and Socialism" where the British republic finds an unusual founding father and William "I can't quite forgive my sister in law for mentioning racism" Windsor gets schooled
 
Not used enough at all
I remember reading up on him and I was like ‘He’s a perfect Third Party person if I’ve ever seen one’.

Like going from Jesse Jackson to Republican within a couple of years and then still being weird then means he’s kind of perfect for it.
 
HS2-punk 2019

2016 - 2019: Theresa May (Conservative)
2017 (Minority) def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrats)
2017 - Conservatives form supply and confidence deal with DUP
2019 - 2019: Rory Stewart (Conservative minority with ChangeUK confidence)
2019 - 2020: Nigel Farage (Brexit)
2019 (Minority) def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Rory Stewart (Conservative), Jo Swinson (LibDem-ChangeUK), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP)
2019 - Steve Baker of the European Research Group and other Tory MPs cross the floor, granting the Brexit Party a majority
2019 - Prime Minister Farage announces the cancellation of the HS2 program
2020 - The United Kingdom leaves the European Union on WTO terms
2020 - 2026: Rebecca Long-Bailey (Labour)
2020 - A Government of National Unity is formed due to Farage's opposition to a lockdown. A majority for the opposition is secured after George Galloway splits from the Brexit Party to form the WPGB, agreeing to support the GNU if they expand a rebooted HS2 program into Scotland.
2021 (Minority) def. Nigel Farage (Reform), Chuka Umunna (ChangeUK-LibDem), Rory Stewart (Conservative), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP)
2021 - Labour form supply and confidence deal with SNP, expanding Scotland's access to high-speed rail and granting increased powers to the devolved government
2022 - Death of Elizabeth II, coronation of George VII
2026 Monarchy Referendum - Keep (53%)
2026 (Minority) def. James Glancy (Reform), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Sarah Green (Liberal Democrats), Ruth Davidson (Progressive), Zack Polanski (Green)

2026 - 0000: James Glancy (Reform leading Coalition of the 53% with Liberal Democrats & Greens with Alba confidence)
2026 - Prime Minister Glancy announces the cancellation of the rebooted HS2 program, citing environmental and financial concerns
2030 European Union Referendum - Out (54%)
 
Last edited:
I remember reading up on him and I was like ‘He’s a perfect Third Party person if I’ve ever seen one’.

Like going from Jesse Jackson to Republican within a couple of years and then still being weird then means he’s kind of perfect for it.
I don't think his political journey is all that weird within the context of El Paso politics, which like San Antonio has been dominated by clientelist politicians, in this era mostly but not exclusively Anglos, winning on the basis of Anglo business establishment money and Hispanic voters who generally don't want to rock the boat too much. O'Rourke (who was already a Republican when he worked on the Jackson campaign, though there's no party registration in Texas and most municipal offices are nonpartisan) was willing to work with the machine but always kind of out of step with it, which drew him towards progressive causes, but the only people with the resources to really challenge the machine were the Anglo Republicans who ran a competitor operation. Beto had a pretty similar arc - the 2006 progressive wave that elected him to City Council was financed with the money of, among others, his Republican gentrifier father-in-law.

That said, I feel like "successful El Paso politician" and "Reform Party running mate to Donald Trump" are kind of incompatible - the Reform Party's whole thing is cutting off the international trade that El Paso needs to survive (any fiscal-conservative cuts to military spending will also very much not help).
 
That said, I feel like "successful El Paso politician" and "Reform Party running mate to Donald Trump" are kind of incompatible - the Reform Party's whole thing is cutting off the international trade that El Paso needs to survive (any fiscal-conservative cuts to military spending will also very much not help).
Interesting and thank you, I do have the sense then that he seems like the type that would be a big part of a 88’ Lee Iacocca Democratic Party (*light bulb*) or a possible Reformesque vehicle lead by someone like Harvey Milk or another Progressive/Civil Libertarian, Low On Taxes, Not Anti-NAFTA type.
 
Interesting and thank you, I do have the sense then that he seems like the type that would be a big part of a 88’ Lee Iacocca Democratic Party (*light bulb*) or a possible Reformesque vehicle lead by someone like Harvey Milk or another Progressive/Civil Libertarian, Low On Taxes, Not Anti-NAFTA type.
I definitely think that's right.
 
Back
Top