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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State
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Pondering expanding this. Don't know if they'd do a full coalition for a government that is basically just going to hold a second referendum. So some kinda Labour minority with a LOT of supply and confidence. But without Jez as PM
But within months it becomes a full covid National government.
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List of Heads of State of the United Soviets of North America and Successor States
1. Bill Haywood
Prominent Socialist leader, and founds the United Soviets of North America in the 1910s which encompasses North America from Canada to Panama, dies of heart condition, succeeded by Triumvirate that is eventually usurped by Jose Miguel Perez from the constituent Cuban Soviet Republic.
2. Jose Miguel Perez
Infamous for his massive purges, dies of a heart failure while in office in the early 50s, succeeded temporarily by Harry Truman.
3. Harry Truman
Effectively the caretaker party man after death of Perez, soon ousted from power by party members led by Lyndon Johnson.
4. Lyndon Johnson
Oversees attempts as consumer reform and higher standards to living, ousted by party conservatives in the late 60s led by Pierre Trudeau from the Canadian Soviet Republic.
5. Pierre Trudeau
While still being stable, oversees the stagnation period for the United Soviets, especially as the United Soviets gets stuck in the quagmire of the Andes invasion. Dies in office in the early 80s.
6. Richard Helms
Long-standing chief of intelligence with vaguely-elite ambiguous background, suddenly dies in office a few years into his reign.
7. Carl Albert
Succeeds Helms out of seniority, also dies a few years into his reign.
8. Walter Mondale
Attempts at reforming the United Soviets with a humanist edge, fails, and the United Soviets collapse in the early 90s.
List of presidents of Mexico
1. Vincente Fox
Party Boss of the Mexican Soviet Republic before the collapse and prominent leader during said collapse, consolidates power and rules as a personalist leader after collapse. Dies in office.
2. Felipe Calderon
Succeeds Fox as leader and currently expanding diplomacy to up and coming powers as America itself is seen as a less reliable partner than before.
List of presidents of America
1. Bill Clinton
Prominent leader and Party Boss of America during the collapse, was the head of the American Soviet Republic before the collapse, becomes first president of America after, where he consolidates power and institutes sharp and sudden market reforms. Retires and succeeded by Perry in the late 90s.
2. Rick Perry
Former military/intelligence officer that rises up the ranks of American politics until getting recognized by Clinton as successor. Oversees the 2000s economic recovery as well as completing the consolidation of power around himself at the helm. Temporarily takes a backseat and succeeded by Rod Blagojevich.
3. Rod Blagojevich
Acts as temporary leader in the early 2010s, overseeing gradually worse relations with other countries. Retires again with Perry back as president, now spends time making incoherent posts on messaging apps.
4. Rick Perry
Returns to power, and becomes even more antagonistic, until he decides to invade Canada in the early 2020s, which does not go smoothly as planned.
List of Presidents of Canada
1. Brian Mulroney
Prominent leader and Party Boss of the Canadian Soviet Republic during the collapse, first president of Canada. Succeeded by Chretien.
2. Jean Chretien
Acts as the longest standing president of Canada. succeeded by Jack Layton.
3. Jack Layton
Is swept to power with the image of a forward thinking reformist in the late 2000s. Succeeded by Harper.
4. Stephen Harper
A pro-American Conservative, gets overthrown by his people in the mid-2010s, flees to America and the American subsequently intervene and annex parts of Canada.
5. Mark Carney
Former Businessman that gets into power after the Revolution. Succeeded by Rogen
6. Seth Rogen
A former comedian and celebrity that sweeps into power as a reformist centrist, oversees the Canadian resistance against the invasion by President Perry of America.
(Credit to @Blackentheborg for the Perry and Rogen ideas, I wanted to go with Cheney instead of Perry but decided against it)
1. Bill Haywood
Prominent Socialist leader, and founds the United Soviets of North America in the 1910s which encompasses North America from Canada to Panama, dies of heart condition, succeeded by Triumvirate that is eventually usurped by Jose Miguel Perez from the constituent Cuban Soviet Republic.
2. Jose Miguel Perez
Infamous for his massive purges, dies of a heart failure while in office in the early 50s, succeeded temporarily by Harry Truman.
3. Harry Truman
Effectively the caretaker party man after death of Perez, soon ousted from power by party members led by Lyndon Johnson.
4. Lyndon Johnson
Oversees attempts as consumer reform and higher standards to living, ousted by party conservatives in the late 60s led by Pierre Trudeau from the Canadian Soviet Republic.
5. Pierre Trudeau
While still being stable, oversees the stagnation period for the United Soviets, especially as the United Soviets gets stuck in the quagmire of the Andes invasion. Dies in office in the early 80s.
6. Richard Helms
Long-standing chief of intelligence with vaguely-elite ambiguous background, suddenly dies in office a few years into his reign.
7. Carl Albert
Succeeds Helms out of seniority, also dies a few years into his reign.
8. Walter Mondale
Attempts at reforming the United Soviets with a humanist edge, fails, and the United Soviets collapse in the early 90s.
List of presidents of Mexico
1. Vincente Fox
Party Boss of the Mexican Soviet Republic before the collapse and prominent leader during said collapse, consolidates power and rules as a personalist leader after collapse. Dies in office.
2. Felipe Calderon
Succeeds Fox as leader and currently expanding diplomacy to up and coming powers as America itself is seen as a less reliable partner than before.
List of presidents of America
1. Bill Clinton
Prominent leader and Party Boss of America during the collapse, was the head of the American Soviet Republic before the collapse, becomes first president of America after, where he consolidates power and institutes sharp and sudden market reforms. Retires and succeeded by Perry in the late 90s.
2. Rick Perry
Former military/intelligence officer that rises up the ranks of American politics until getting recognized by Clinton as successor. Oversees the 2000s economic recovery as well as completing the consolidation of power around himself at the helm. Temporarily takes a backseat and succeeded by Rod Blagojevich.
3. Rod Blagojevich
Acts as temporary leader in the early 2010s, overseeing gradually worse relations with other countries. Retires again with Perry back as president, now spends time making incoherent posts on messaging apps.
4. Rick Perry
Returns to power, and becomes even more antagonistic, until he decides to invade Canada in the early 2020s, which does not go smoothly as planned.
List of Presidents of Canada
1. Brian Mulroney
Prominent leader and Party Boss of the Canadian Soviet Republic during the collapse, first president of Canada. Succeeded by Chretien.
2. Jean Chretien
Acts as the longest standing president of Canada. succeeded by Jack Layton.
3. Jack Layton
Is swept to power with the image of a forward thinking reformist in the late 2000s. Succeeded by Harper.
4. Stephen Harper
A pro-American Conservative, gets overthrown by his people in the mid-2010s, flees to America and the American subsequently intervene and annex parts of Canada.
5. Mark Carney
Former Businessman that gets into power after the Revolution. Succeeded by Rogen
6. Seth Rogen
A former comedian and celebrity that sweeps into power as a reformist centrist, oversees the Canadian resistance against the invasion by President Perry of America.
(Credit to @Blackentheborg for the Perry and Rogen ideas, I wanted to go with Cheney instead of Perry but decided against it)
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wait sorry im stupid, which country is Mexico supposed to parallel here?
I would assume it's a stand-in for Central Asia in general rather than any one specific country.
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I took it as Kazakhstan, though that might be because I chose to believe there’s a rotating gold statue of Daniel Ortega in TTL Managua.
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Its Kazakhstan, Fox is supposed to be Nazerbayev and Calderon is supposed to be Tokayev.
1933-1957: Huey Long† (Democratic)
1932 (with David Walsh) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 (with David Walsh) def. Alf Landon (Republican-Liberty League), Gerald Smith (Union)
1940 (with Paul McNutt) def. Gerald Nye (Republican-Liberty League-Union)
1944 (with John Winant) def. Carl Curtis (Republican-Liberty League-Union-States' Rights)
1948 (with Charles Poletti) def. Stuart Hamblen (Prohibition)
1952 (with Earl Long) def. Peyton March (Independent)
1956 (with Hubert Humphrey) def. unopposed
1957-1958: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1958-1961: Hubert Humphrey (Workingman)
1961-xxxx: Matthew Ridgway (Independent)
1960 (with James Stewart) def. Russell Long (Democratic), Hubert Humphrey (Workingman), Adam Clayton Powell (Equality), Cleon Skousen (A Republic, Not A Democracy-Prohibition)
Not a ton to explain here. I remember thinking timelines where Huey Long becomes President needed more comments about him being elected for a seventh term. And I've also always been fascinated by the phenomenon where a loyal successor to a dictator or strongman ends up trying to forge his own path (usually ending up earning the ire of the strongman AND the opposition). So that's the idea here.
1932 (with David Walsh) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 (with David Walsh) def. Alf Landon (Republican-Liberty League), Gerald Smith (Union)
1940 (with Paul McNutt) def. Gerald Nye (Republican-Liberty League-Union)
1944 (with John Winant) def. Carl Curtis (Republican-Liberty League-Union-States' Rights)
1948 (with Charles Poletti) def. Stuart Hamblen (Prohibition)
1952 (with Earl Long) def. Peyton March (Independent)
1956 (with Hubert Humphrey) def. unopposed
1957-1958: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1958-1961: Hubert Humphrey (Workingman)
1961-xxxx: Matthew Ridgway (Independent)
1960 (with James Stewart) def. Russell Long (Democratic), Hubert Humphrey (Workingman), Adam Clayton Powell (Equality), Cleon Skousen (A Republic, Not A Democracy-Prohibition)
Not a ton to explain here. I remember thinking timelines where Huey Long becomes President needed more comments about him being elected for a seventh term. And I've also always been fascinated by the phenomenon where a loyal successor to a dictator or strongman ends up trying to forge his own path (usually ending up earning the ire of the strongman AND the opposition). So that's the idea here.
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Who is Matthew Ridgway? Tried looking him up but all I get is the son of a serial killer...
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My favourite is Blagojevich as Medvedev
1929 - 1933: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1928 (with Charles Curtis) def. Al Smith (Democrat)
1933 - 1946: George R. Lunn (Democrat)
1932 (with John N. Garner) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 (with Homer Bone) def. Frank Knox (Republican), John N. Garner (Southern Democrat)
1940 (with Homer Bone) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1944 (with Fiorello LaGuardia) def. minor opposition
1946 - 1946: Fiorello LaGuardia (Republican)
1946 - 1947: Fiorello LaGuardia (Democrat)
1947 - 1949: Jerry J. O’Connell (Democrat)
1949 - 1953: Jerry Voorhis (Democrat)
1948 (with Bolívar Pagán) def. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1953 - 1961: Hugh De Lacy [replacing Vito Marcantonio] (Democrat)
1952 (with John Bernard) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican)
1956 (with Leo Isacson) def. minor opposition
1961 - 1969: Andrew Biemiller (Democrat)
1960 (with George M. Rhodes) def. minor opposition
1964 (with George M. Rhodes) def. minor opposition
1969 - 1973: George M. Rhodes (Democrat)
1968 (with William H. Meyer) def. minor opposition
1973 - 1981: William H. Meyer (Democrat)
1972 (with John Conyers) def. minor opposition
1976 (with John Conyers) def. minor opposition
1981 - 1985: John Conyers (Democrat)
1980 (with Bernard Sanders) def. minor opposition
1985 - 1992: Ron Dellums (Democrat)
1984 (with Bernard Sanders) def. minor opposition
1988 (with David Bonior) def. minor opposition
1992 - 2005: David Bonior (Democrat)
1992 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
1996 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
2000 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
2005 - 2025: Bernard Sanders (Democrat)
2004 (with Danny Davis) def. minor opposition
2008 (with Rashida Tlaib) def. minor opposition
2012 (with Jamaal Bowman) def. minor opposition
2016 (with Cori Bush) def. minor opposition
2020 (with Greg Casar) def. minor opposition
2025 - 0000: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democrat)
2024 (with Summer Lee) def. minor opposition
In 1928, after the premature death of their original candidate, New York Democrats sought a new nominee for Governor, and before going for FDR, they first aproached George R. Lunn, who was Lt. Governor a few years prior. Aside from being Lt. Governor, Lunn was also a former capital-S Socialist, affiliated with the ‘sewer socialist’ movement, and only drafted by the Democrats in the late 1910s. Since the Governor’s office catapulted Roosevelt to the Presidency four years, I wondered how an outright socialist would use the powers FDR had.
The main changes from OTL are that Lunn has a slightly more ambitious agenda, as well as surrounding himself with more outright socialists from his past, who convince the President into supporting the Spanish Republicans. This pushes Garner towards a third party run, though Lunn cruises towards re-election against his VP and the newspaper mogul who has more than just ideological reasons to oppose the President.
By the 1940 election Europe is in a state war, with the Germans breaking through the Ardennes, German and Polish forces riding towards Minsk, and Spanish people shooting at each other. The US had poured so many ‘volunteers’ into Spain over the past four years, that they were basically part of the war already. Hoover attempts to return to the presidency on a campaign of staying out of the European war, though he doesn’t manage to do much more than not repeat the past two embarrassing results for the Republican Party.
Even after their defeat, Republicans become increasingly critical of the level of aid Lunn is willing to give to the Western democracies and especially the USSR. These criticisms swiftly die down as a terrorist attack by the Bund against multiple synagogues in New York City officially draw the US into the conflict. With the GOP never recovering from their opposition to the war, especially after agreeing to a joint ticket in 1944 with Mayor LaGuardia as the number two.
Although President Lunn would see the end of the war, he passed away not long after, with VP LaGuardia succeeding him, who mostly continued Lunn’s effort in establishing the new socialist world order, even switching officially over to the Democratic Party, after the Republicans opposed many of his proposals. LaGuardia died shortly after, and with the Secretary of State’s office being vacant, the young Attorney General O’Connell became President. Although considered to be part of the left-wing of the party (which had already moved to the left violently over the past fifteen years), O’Connell wasn’t an outright Leninist, though he did have sympathies to the Leninist caucus, who would support him for re-election though his lack of support elsewhere forced him to concede to the Senator from California.
Jerry Voorhis was seen as a rising star within the party ever since being elected to Congress for the first time in 1936. This wasn’t just due to his handsome looks, as his investigations into corrupt dealing by oil companies during the Second Great War, and their subsequent nationalization, earned him the nickname ‘Kid Atlas’. Voorhis was also one of the most notable critics of the USSR’s human rights record, and after his election to the Presidency with the Puerto Rico Governor as his number two, he didn’t include any Leninists into his cabinet.
The snub by President Voorhis, led to a Leninist push towards taking control of state parties, which led to his shaky presidency’s downfall, as Mayor Marcantonio, with the support of the Leninists, won a majority over him. The Mayor would pass away shortly after, and be replaced on the top of the ticket by Washington Governor De Lacy, who was an even more committed towards Leninism. De Lacy’s eight year long Presidency saw the last ounces of capitalist opposition be crushed, and the establishment of the dominant party democracy, a hybrid between the one-party democracy of the USSR and the popular front democracy of Western Europe. De Lacy saw increasing internal opposition in his second term, and the resignation of fmr. President O’Connell as Attorney General, led to a trade union led overthrowal.
The Biemiller-Rhodes duumvirate was in turn overthrown by Meyer with the support of the social movements. Meyer was ironically picked as Rhodes’ VP as a reward for winning the Governorship in Vermont back in 1958, the last state where the Republicans were still in control. Meyer was succeeded by his VP Conyers, who became the first black president, though he only served one term due to corruption scandals. His successor Dellums, another black politician who rose to the forefront thanks to Meyer, also failed to complete eight years, as he similarly fell due to the corruption scandals, shortly before the end of his second term.
Bonior and Owens came from the same machine, though their lack of personal corruption, allowed them to become the longest serving president and vice president respectively. Nevertheless, even they would be forced out eventually, as a young generation fed up with the old ways found their messias in Meyer’s protégé.
Bernard Sanders had already served as President some twenty years ago, though his years in the wilderness had shifted him further to the left. As soon as his Presidency started, he got rid of several ‘untouchables’, with dozens of congressmen from New York alone facing criminal charges. Within his first six years, the average age of the Senate more than halved. Although some referred to Sanders’ handling as ‘purges’, he would lay down the most consequential presidency since Lunn. Ultimately, after twenty years in office, he paved the way for his personally chosen successor New York City Mayor Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who as a 15-year old in 2004, was barely old enough to vote for Bernard Sanders.
1928 (with Charles Curtis) def. Al Smith (Democrat)
1933 - 1946: George R. Lunn (Democrat)
1932 (with John N. Garner) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 (with Homer Bone) def. Frank Knox (Republican), John N. Garner (Southern Democrat)
1940 (with Homer Bone) def. Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1944 (with Fiorello LaGuardia) def. minor opposition
1946 - 1946: Fiorello LaGuardia (Republican)
1946 - 1947: Fiorello LaGuardia (Democrat)
1947 - 1949: Jerry J. O’Connell (Democrat)
1949 - 1953: Jerry Voorhis (Democrat)
1948 (with Bolívar Pagán) def. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1953 - 1961: Hugh De Lacy [replacing Vito Marcantonio] (Democrat)
1952 (with John Bernard) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican)
1956 (with Leo Isacson) def. minor opposition
1961 - 1969: Andrew Biemiller (Democrat)
1960 (with George M. Rhodes) def. minor opposition
1964 (with George M. Rhodes) def. minor opposition
1969 - 1973: George M. Rhodes (Democrat)
1968 (with William H. Meyer) def. minor opposition
1973 - 1981: William H. Meyer (Democrat)
1972 (with John Conyers) def. minor opposition
1976 (with John Conyers) def. minor opposition
1981 - 1985: John Conyers (Democrat)
1980 (with Bernard Sanders) def. minor opposition
1985 - 1992: Ron Dellums (Democrat)
1984 (with Bernard Sanders) def. minor opposition
1988 (with David Bonior) def. minor opposition
1992 - 2005: David Bonior (Democrat)
1992 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
1996 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
2000 (with Major Owens) def. minor opposition
2005 - 2025: Bernard Sanders (Democrat)
2004 (with Danny Davis) def. minor opposition
2008 (with Rashida Tlaib) def. minor opposition
2012 (with Jamaal Bowman) def. minor opposition
2016 (with Cori Bush) def. minor opposition
2020 (with Greg Casar) def. minor opposition
2025 - 0000: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democrat)
2024 (with Summer Lee) def. minor opposition
In 1928, after the premature death of their original candidate, New York Democrats sought a new nominee for Governor, and before going for FDR, they first aproached George R. Lunn, who was Lt. Governor a few years prior. Aside from being Lt. Governor, Lunn was also a former capital-S Socialist, affiliated with the ‘sewer socialist’ movement, and only drafted by the Democrats in the late 1910s. Since the Governor’s office catapulted Roosevelt to the Presidency four years, I wondered how an outright socialist would use the powers FDR had.
The main changes from OTL are that Lunn has a slightly more ambitious agenda, as well as surrounding himself with more outright socialists from his past, who convince the President into supporting the Spanish Republicans. This pushes Garner towards a third party run, though Lunn cruises towards re-election against his VP and the newspaper mogul who has more than just ideological reasons to oppose the President.
By the 1940 election Europe is in a state war, with the Germans breaking through the Ardennes, German and Polish forces riding towards Minsk, and Spanish people shooting at each other. The US had poured so many ‘volunteers’ into Spain over the past four years, that they were basically part of the war already. Hoover attempts to return to the presidency on a campaign of staying out of the European war, though he doesn’t manage to do much more than not repeat the past two embarrassing results for the Republican Party.
Even after their defeat, Republicans become increasingly critical of the level of aid Lunn is willing to give to the Western democracies and especially the USSR. These criticisms swiftly die down as a terrorist attack by the Bund against multiple synagogues in New York City officially draw the US into the conflict. With the GOP never recovering from their opposition to the war, especially after agreeing to a joint ticket in 1944 with Mayor LaGuardia as the number two.
Although President Lunn would see the end of the war, he passed away not long after, with VP LaGuardia succeeding him, who mostly continued Lunn’s effort in establishing the new socialist world order, even switching officially over to the Democratic Party, after the Republicans opposed many of his proposals. LaGuardia died shortly after, and with the Secretary of State’s office being vacant, the young Attorney General O’Connell became President. Although considered to be part of the left-wing of the party (which had already moved to the left violently over the past fifteen years), O’Connell wasn’t an outright Leninist, though he did have sympathies to the Leninist caucus, who would support him for re-election though his lack of support elsewhere forced him to concede to the Senator from California.
Jerry Voorhis was seen as a rising star within the party ever since being elected to Congress for the first time in 1936. This wasn’t just due to his handsome looks, as his investigations into corrupt dealing by oil companies during the Second Great War, and their subsequent nationalization, earned him the nickname ‘Kid Atlas’. Voorhis was also one of the most notable critics of the USSR’s human rights record, and after his election to the Presidency with the Puerto Rico Governor as his number two, he didn’t include any Leninists into his cabinet.
The snub by President Voorhis, led to a Leninist push towards taking control of state parties, which led to his shaky presidency’s downfall, as Mayor Marcantonio, with the support of the Leninists, won a majority over him. The Mayor would pass away shortly after, and be replaced on the top of the ticket by Washington Governor De Lacy, who was an even more committed towards Leninism. De Lacy’s eight year long Presidency saw the last ounces of capitalist opposition be crushed, and the establishment of the dominant party democracy, a hybrid between the one-party democracy of the USSR and the popular front democracy of Western Europe. De Lacy saw increasing internal opposition in his second term, and the resignation of fmr. President O’Connell as Attorney General, led to a trade union led overthrowal.
The Biemiller-Rhodes duumvirate was in turn overthrown by Meyer with the support of the social movements. Meyer was ironically picked as Rhodes’ VP as a reward for winning the Governorship in Vermont back in 1958, the last state where the Republicans were still in control. Meyer was succeeded by his VP Conyers, who became the first black president, though he only served one term due to corruption scandals. His successor Dellums, another black politician who rose to the forefront thanks to Meyer, also failed to complete eight years, as he similarly fell due to the corruption scandals, shortly before the end of his second term.
Bonior and Owens came from the same machine, though their lack of personal corruption, allowed them to become the longest serving president and vice president respectively. Nevertheless, even they would be forced out eventually, as a young generation fed up with the old ways found their messias in Meyer’s protégé.
Bernard Sanders had already served as President some twenty years ago, though his years in the wilderness had shifted him further to the left. As soon as his Presidency started, he got rid of several ‘untouchables’, with dozens of congressmen from New York alone facing criminal charges. Within his first six years, the average age of the Senate more than halved. Although some referred to Sanders’ handling as ‘purges’, he would lay down the most consequential presidency since Lunn. Ultimately, after twenty years in office, he paved the way for his personally chosen successor New York City Mayor Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who as a 15-year old in 2004, was barely old enough to vote for Bernard Sanders.
Yossarian
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- Middle Earth backlot
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The Long post gave me an idea.
Presidents of the United States of America
1937 - 1946: Senator Huey P. Long (Independent / Union)
1946 (Jun - Aug; Acting): General George C. Marshall
1946 - 1949: General Dwight D. Eisenhower
1949 - 1953: Governor Rexford Tugwell* (Democratic)
1953 - 1954: President pro tempore of the Senate Walter F. George* (Democratic)
1954 - 1957: Speaker of the House Joseph W. Martin (Republican)
1957 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1957 - 1961: General Edwin Walker
1961 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1961 - 1962: General Maxwell Taylor
1962 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1962 - 1964: General Lyman Lemnitzer
1965 (Jan): Governor Earl Long* (Union)
1965 (Jan): President pro tempore of the Senate Lyndon B. Johnson* (Union)
1965 - 1966: Former President Huey P. Long† (Union)
1966 - 1968: Vice President Shirley T. Long* (Union)
1968 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1968 - 1973: General John K. Singlaub
1973 (Mar - Nov): General Victor Krulak
1973 (Nov - Dec; Acting): General Bruce Palmer, Jr.
1973 (Dec; Acting): General Creighton Abrams, Jr.
1973 - 1974: General Julian Ewell
1974 (Jun - Jul; Acting): General Edward Lansdale
1974 - 1975: General William Westmoreland
1975 - 1981: Representative Stewart Udall (Democratic)
1981 - 1991: Senator Robert Byrd (Union)
1991 - 1993: Senator George McGovern (Democratic)
1993 (Dec; Acting): Speaker of the House Newton Gingrich* (Union)
1993 (Dec; Acting): President pro Tempore of the Senate Strom Thurmond* (Union)
1993 - 1994 (Acting): Speaker of the House Jim Wright (Union)
1994 - 1995: Vice President Mario Cuomo (Union)
1995 - 1999: Governor Bill Clinton (Union)
1999 - 2007: Vice President Hillary Clinton (Union)
2007 - 2011: Businessman Rex Tillerson (Republican)
2011 - 2015: Governor Andrew Cuomo (Union)
2015 - 0000: Ophthalmologist Randall Paul (We The People)
Presidents of the United States of America
1937 - 1946: Senator Huey P. Long (Independent / Union)
1946 (Jun - Aug; Acting): General George C. Marshall
1946 - 1949: General Dwight D. Eisenhower
1949 - 1953: Governor Rexford Tugwell* (Democratic)
1953 - 1954: President pro tempore of the Senate Walter F. George* (Democratic)
1954 - 1957: Speaker of the House Joseph W. Martin (Republican)
1957 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1957 - 1961: General Edwin Walker
1961 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1961 - 1962: General Maxwell Taylor
1962 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1962 - 1964: General Lyman Lemnitzer
1965 (Jan): Governor Earl Long* (Union)
1965 (Jan): President pro tempore of the Senate Lyndon B. Johnson* (Union)
1965 - 1966: Former President Huey P. Long† (Union)
1966 - 1968: Vice President Shirley T. Long* (Union)
1968 (Jan): Joint Chiefs of Staff
1968 - 1973: General John K. Singlaub
1973 (Mar - Nov): General Victor Krulak
1973 (Nov - Dec; Acting): General Bruce Palmer, Jr.
1973 (Dec; Acting): General Creighton Abrams, Jr.
1973 - 1974: General Julian Ewell
1974 (Jun - Jul; Acting): General Edward Lansdale
1974 - 1975: General William Westmoreland
1975 - 1981: Representative Stewart Udall (Democratic)
1981 - 1991: Senator Robert Byrd (Union)
1991 - 1993: Senator George McGovern (Democratic)
1993 (Dec; Acting): Speaker of the House Newton Gingrich* (Union)
1993 (Dec; Acting): President pro Tempore of the Senate Strom Thurmond* (Union)
1993 - 1994 (Acting): Speaker of the House Jim Wright (Union)
1994 - 1995: Vice President Mario Cuomo (Union)
1995 - 1999: Governor Bill Clinton (Union)
1999 - 2007: Vice President Hillary Clinton (Union)
2007 - 2011: Businessman Rex Tillerson (Republican)
2011 - 2015: Governor Andrew Cuomo (Union)
2015 - 0000: Ophthalmologist Randall Paul (We The People)
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American paratrooper general and bete-noir of modern Chinese War movies.
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Means of Descent
1945-53: Harry Truman/Alben Barkley (Democrat)
1948: Thomas Dewy/Earl Warren (Republican), Strom Thurmond/Fielding Wright (Dixiecrat)
1953-57: Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (Republican)
1952: Adlai Stevenson II/Coke Stevenson (Democrat)
1957-61: Dwight Eisenhower/Robert B. Anderson (Republican)
1956: Adlai Stevenson II/Albert Gore (Democrat)
1961-69: Stuart Symington/George Smathers (Democrat)
1960: William Knowland/Thurston B. Murton (Republican), Orval Faubus/W.J.B. Dorn (State's Rights)
1964: Barry Goldwater/J. Fife Symington (Republican)
1969-77: John Connally/Robert Taft Jr. (Republican)
1968: Hubert Humphrey/Robert F. Kennedy (Democrat), George Wallace/John Wayne (Conservative)
1972: Frank Church/Hale Boggs (Democrat)
...
1993- : Nancy D.A. Symington/Jim Folsom Jr. (Democrat)
1992: Pat Robertson/Butch Otter (Republican)
1945-53: Harry Truman/Alben Barkley (Democrat)
1948: Thomas Dewy/Earl Warren (Republican), Strom Thurmond/Fielding Wright (Dixiecrat)
1953-57: Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (Republican)
1952: Adlai Stevenson II/Coke Stevenson (Democrat)
1957-61: Dwight Eisenhower/Robert B. Anderson (Republican)
1956: Adlai Stevenson II/Albert Gore (Democrat)
1961-69: Stuart Symington/George Smathers (Democrat)
1960: William Knowland/Thurston B. Murton (Republican), Orval Faubus/W.J.B. Dorn (State's Rights)
1964: Barry Goldwater/J. Fife Symington (Republican)
1969-77: John Connally/Robert Taft Jr. (Republican)
1968: Hubert Humphrey/Robert F. Kennedy (Democrat), George Wallace/John Wayne (Conservative)
1972: Frank Church/Hale Boggs (Democrat)
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1993- : Nancy D.A. Symington/Jim Folsom Jr. (Democrat)
1992: Pat Robertson/Butch Otter (Republican)
Is Connally a credible Republican candidate without Kennedy having happened?
Alberto Knox
Well-known member
- Location
- Mistress Masham's Repose
- Pronouns
- He/Him
1976-1978: James Callaghan (Labour)
1978-1979: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
def. 1978 (Minority): James Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
1979 Scottish devolution referendum: 52.1% Yes , 47.9% No (Result ignored due to falling short of 40% turnout threshold)
1979 Welsh devolution referendum: 79.1% No , 20.9% Yes
1979-1982: James Callaghan (Labour)
def. 1979 (Majority): Margaret Thatcher (Conservative), David Steel (Liberal)
1982-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984-1988: William Whitelaw (Conservative leading Conservative-Alliance Coalition) [1]
def. 1984 (Minority, Alliance Coalition): Michael Foot (Labour), Roy Jenkins/David Steel (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1985 Scottish devolution referendum: 55.7% Yes , 44.3% No
1988-1993: Michael Heseltine (Conservative leading Conservative-Alliance (later Lib Dem) Coalition) [2]
def. 1989 (Minority, Alliance Coalition): Neil Kinnock (Labour), Shirley Williams/David Steel (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1990 STV referendum: 50.9% Yes , 49.1% No
1990 merger of SDP-Liberal Alliance into Liberal Democrats
def. 1993 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Neil Kinnock (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Margaret Ewing (SNP), John Cornford/Jan Clark (Green), Dafydd Iwan (Plaid Cymru)
1993-1998: Kenneth Clarke (Conservative leading Conservative-Lib Dem Coalition)
1998-2003: Tony Blair (Labour leading Labour-Lib Dem Coalition)
def. 1998 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), James Goldsmith (Referendum), Margaret Ewing (SNP), Mike Woodin/Jean Lambert (Green), Dafydd Wigley (Plaid Cymru)
1998 Welsh devolution referendum: 53.2% Yes , 46.8% No
def. 2003 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Roger Knapman (Independence), John Swinney (SNP), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Mike Woodin/Margaret Wright (Green)
2003-2004: Tony Blair (Labour) [3]
2004-2009: Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition)
def. 2004 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Tony Blair (Labour), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Roger Knapman (Independence), John Swinney (SNP), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Mike Woodin/Margaret Wright (Green)
2009-2012: Alan Johnson (Labour leading Labour-SNP Coalition) [4]
def. 2009 (Minority, SNP Coalition): Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Alex Salmond (SNP), Tim Congdon (Independence), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Siân Berry (Green)
2011 Scottish Independence Referendum: 56.7% No , 43.3% Yes
2012-2014: Chris Huhne (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition) [5]
def. 2012 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Alan Johnson (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Alex Salmond (SNP), Tim Congdon (Independence), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Siân Berry (Green)
2014-0000: Elizabeth Truss (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition)
def. 2014 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Yvette Cooper (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Nigel Farage (Independence), Caroline Lucas (Green), Alex Salmond (SNP), Elin Jones (Plaid Cymru)
def. 2018 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Yvette Cooper (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Nigel Farage (Independence), Caroline Lucas (Green), Alex Salmond (SNP), Elin Jones (Plaid Cymru)
def. 2022 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Hillary Benn (Labour), Sajid Javid (Conservative), Simon Saggers (Green), Michael Gove (Independence), Kenny MacAskill (SNP), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru)
[1] Resigned following stroke
[2] Resigned following heart attack
[3] Government dissolved following vote of no confidence
[4] Early election called upon dissolution of coalition
[5] Resigned following criminal charges
1978-1979: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
def. 1978 (Minority): James Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
1979 Scottish devolution referendum: 52.1% Yes , 47.9% No (Result ignored due to falling short of 40% turnout threshold)
1979 Welsh devolution referendum: 79.1% No , 20.9% Yes
1979-1982: James Callaghan (Labour)
def. 1979 (Majority): Margaret Thatcher (Conservative), David Steel (Liberal)
1982-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984-1988: William Whitelaw (Conservative leading Conservative-Alliance Coalition) [1]
def. 1984 (Minority, Alliance Coalition): Michael Foot (Labour), Roy Jenkins/David Steel (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1985 Scottish devolution referendum: 55.7% Yes , 44.3% No
1988-1993: Michael Heseltine (Conservative leading Conservative-Alliance (later Lib Dem) Coalition) [2]
def. 1989 (Minority, Alliance Coalition): Neil Kinnock (Labour), Shirley Williams/David Steel (SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1990 STV referendum: 50.9% Yes , 49.1% No
1990 merger of SDP-Liberal Alliance into Liberal Democrats
def. 1993 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Neil Kinnock (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Margaret Ewing (SNP), John Cornford/Jan Clark (Green), Dafydd Iwan (Plaid Cymru)
1993-1998: Kenneth Clarke (Conservative leading Conservative-Lib Dem Coalition)
1998-2003: Tony Blair (Labour leading Labour-Lib Dem Coalition)
def. 1998 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), James Goldsmith (Referendum), Margaret Ewing (SNP), Mike Woodin/Jean Lambert (Green), Dafydd Wigley (Plaid Cymru)
1998 Welsh devolution referendum: 53.2% Yes , 46.8% No
def. 2003 (Minority, Lib Dem Coalition): Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Roger Knapman (Independence), John Swinney (SNP), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Mike Woodin/Margaret Wright (Green)
2003-2004: Tony Blair (Labour) [3]
2004-2009: Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition)
def. 2004 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Tony Blair (Labour), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Roger Knapman (Independence), John Swinney (SNP), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Mike Woodin/Margaret Wright (Green)
2009-2012: Alan Johnson (Labour leading Labour-SNP Coalition) [4]
def. 2009 (Minority, SNP Coalition): Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat), Jonathan Hill (Conservative), Alex Salmond (SNP), Tim Congdon (Independence), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Siân Berry (Green)
2011 Scottish Independence Referendum: 56.7% No , 43.3% Yes
2012-2014: Chris Huhne (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition) [5]
def. 2012 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Alan Johnson (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Alex Salmond (SNP), Tim Congdon (Independence), Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru), Siân Berry (Green)
2014-0000: Elizabeth Truss (Liberal Democrat leading Lib Dem-Conservative Coalition)
def. 2014 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Yvette Cooper (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Nigel Farage (Independence), Caroline Lucas (Green), Alex Salmond (SNP), Elin Jones (Plaid Cymru)
def. 2018 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Yvette Cooper (Labour), Theresa May (Conservative), Nigel Farage (Independence), Caroline Lucas (Green), Alex Salmond (SNP), Elin Jones (Plaid Cymru)
def. 2022 (Minority, Conservative Coalition): Hillary Benn (Labour), Sajid Javid (Conservative), Simon Saggers (Green), Michael Gove (Independence), Kenny MacAskill (SNP), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru)
[1] Resigned following stroke
[2] Resigned following heart attack
[3] Government dissolved following vote of no confidence
[4] Early election called upon dissolution of coalition
[5] Resigned following criminal charges
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Bene Tleilax
Well-known member
He becomes an Oil Lawyer after Johnson loses the '48 Senate race and is eventually picked by Eisenhower to replace Leland Olds. He becomes the candidate of Republicans/Shivercrats to challenge incumbent Ralph Yarborough (getting out in time to avoid blame for the Financial Crisis on '58.)
2001 - 2009: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2000 def. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2004 def. John McCain / Mark Foley (Republican)
2009 - 2013: Vince McMahon / Sam Brownback (Republican)
2008 def. Hillary Clinton / John Edwards (Democratic)
2013 - 2017: Joe Lieberman / Hinda Solis (Democratic)
2012 def. Vince McMahon / Sam Brownback (Republican)
2017 - 0000: Vince McMahon / Matt Bevin (Republican)
2016 def. Hinda Solis / Russ Feingold (Democratic)
2000 def. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2004 def. John McCain / Mark Foley (Republican)
2009 - 2013: Vince McMahon / Sam Brownback (Republican)
2008 def. Hillary Clinton / John Edwards (Democratic)
2013 - 2017: Joe Lieberman / Hinda Solis (Democratic)
2012 def. Vince McMahon / Sam Brownback (Republican)
2017 - 0000: Vince McMahon / Matt Bevin (Republican)
2016 def. Hinda Solis / Russ Feingold (Democratic)