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Jason Zadrozny: And this our manifesto
Interviewer: This is just the Orange Book painted Grey and ‘Fuck Yeah Brexit’ scrawled across every page.
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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State
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Interviewer: This is just the Orange Book painted Grey and ‘Fuck Yeah Brexit’ scrawled across every page.
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Punk-Punk
Mayors of London
2000 - 2004: Malcolm McLaren (Independent)
2004 - 2008: Boris Johnson (Conservatives)
2008 - 2010: Malcolm McLaren (Independent)*
2010: Jenny Jones (Green) (acting-mayor)
2010 - 2018: Siobhan Benita (independent)
2018 - 2022: Shaun Bailey (independent)
2022 - xx: Jack Monroe (independent)
Narrowly winning out over the established parties, the controversial music mogul would struggle to achieve much of his election manifesto - some of which, like his housing lottery plan and pubs in libraries, was only a stunt anyway. He would end up pilloried by his radical base (and would personally be frustrated) as his proposal to never get in the way of protests turned up to incompatible with being a mayor of a city that has protests. His control of the Office of Mayor was notably harsh, he was seen as untrustworthy by everyone he had to work with, and after he was out of power it became clear he'd messed up the city's finances.
That all aside, McLaren was popular for his defence and support of small businesses, his expansion of transport, push for cheap adult education, and attempts to resolve rough sleeping. He may have won a second term if he hadn't pressured the Metropolitan Police to "look the other way" on prostitution and minor drugs, and even that might have been survivable if he hadn't brushed off concerns from residents of public spliffs or aggressive drunk men soliciting.
In order to win, the Conservatives sent in Boris Johnson and they won with a big majority. Johnson reversed the "look the other way" policy and started to focus on attracting bigger chains over small businesses, but mostly promised to keep all the stuff people liked. (One thing he dropped was McLaren's bizarre "Digital Dixon", information stations modelled on the imagery of Dixon of Dock Green) Unfortunately for Johnson, he ran into McLaren's messy finances and so had to make cuts. And when the cuts came in, many Londoners thought Johnson was exaggerating the problem to make cuts he wanted to make, and certainly some of the cuts seemed suspiciously right-wing ones to make.
McLaren never rested, spending four years in 'campaign mode' and running a consultancy business where he'd advise other cities on how to improve themselves. He didn't get many clients but it kept him in the public eye, associated with cities getting better. In 2008, he retook the mayor's job.
The financial crash in 2008 made the job far less fun the second time round and it became clear as he spent that Johnson hadn't entirely lied about the overspending. His continued push of Digital Dixon, through all manner of IT problems, came in for heavy criticism and mockery.
McLaren's illness and early death would shock the nation. (It would also save Digital Dixon by making it a dead legend's last act - it remains in London as a belovedly silly icon, and a headache for the city to keep going)
After a period of mourning, the established parties prepared to put one of their people in but McLaren had succeeded in making people think of the mayor as someone independent from the parties, leaving the city in the hands of the city. Deputy Mayor Jones would be the last Mayor of London officially part of a national party. A major legacy of McLaren is the boost in independent candidates and small parties across the UK, many of whom fail miserably but still see more success in councils & certain constituencies than they used to, as it's been 'proved' they can win; similarly, the Greens saw a brief surge in the 2010s through their new prominence and the fact one of them had briefly run a city. Dark rumour has it that Britain would see more directly-elected city mayors if Westminster wasn't scared off by yet another big city being run by someone outside of the parties, and the Northern Intercity Party movement continues to rally for elected city mayors to help uplift the region.
The odder legacy of McLaren is the London League, a quasi-professional football league with a team for each borough and an annual Mayor's Cup match between the top eight teams. It remains constantly on the verge of losing money and doesn't attract the big players, but it has a fierce core of fans who see it as truly local rather than owned by big money interests. The 2022 match will be between:
- House of Balls [Westminster]
- Lambeth Lions
- Islington Angels
- Suburban Queens [Ealing]
- Merton United
- Croydon Boys
- Greenwich Time
- The Foresters [Waltham]
Mayors of London
2000 - 2004: Malcolm McLaren (Independent)
2004 - 2008: Boris Johnson (Conservatives)
2008 - 2010: Malcolm McLaren (Independent)*
2010: Jenny Jones (Green) (acting-mayor)
2010 - 2018: Siobhan Benita (independent)
2018 - 2022: Shaun Bailey (independent)
2022 - xx: Jack Monroe (independent)
Narrowly winning out over the established parties, the controversial music mogul would struggle to achieve much of his election manifesto - some of which, like his housing lottery plan and pubs in libraries, was only a stunt anyway. He would end up pilloried by his radical base (and would personally be frustrated) as his proposal to never get in the way of protests turned up to incompatible with being a mayor of a city that has protests. His control of the Office of Mayor was notably harsh, he was seen as untrustworthy by everyone he had to work with, and after he was out of power it became clear he'd messed up the city's finances.
That all aside, McLaren was popular for his defence and support of small businesses, his expansion of transport, push for cheap adult education, and attempts to resolve rough sleeping. He may have won a second term if he hadn't pressured the Metropolitan Police to "look the other way" on prostitution and minor drugs, and even that might have been survivable if he hadn't brushed off concerns from residents of public spliffs or aggressive drunk men soliciting.
In order to win, the Conservatives sent in Boris Johnson and they won with a big majority. Johnson reversed the "look the other way" policy and started to focus on attracting bigger chains over small businesses, but mostly promised to keep all the stuff people liked. (One thing he dropped was McLaren's bizarre "Digital Dixon", information stations modelled on the imagery of Dixon of Dock Green) Unfortunately for Johnson, he ran into McLaren's messy finances and so had to make cuts. And when the cuts came in, many Londoners thought Johnson was exaggerating the problem to make cuts he wanted to make, and certainly some of the cuts seemed suspiciously right-wing ones to make.
McLaren never rested, spending four years in 'campaign mode' and running a consultancy business where he'd advise other cities on how to improve themselves. He didn't get many clients but it kept him in the public eye, associated with cities getting better. In 2008, he retook the mayor's job.
The financial crash in 2008 made the job far less fun the second time round and it became clear as he spent that Johnson hadn't entirely lied about the overspending. His continued push of Digital Dixon, through all manner of IT problems, came in for heavy criticism and mockery.
McLaren's illness and early death would shock the nation. (It would also save Digital Dixon by making it a dead legend's last act - it remains in London as a belovedly silly icon, and a headache for the city to keep going)
After a period of mourning, the established parties prepared to put one of their people in but McLaren had succeeded in making people think of the mayor as someone independent from the parties, leaving the city in the hands of the city. Deputy Mayor Jones would be the last Mayor of London officially part of a national party. A major legacy of McLaren is the boost in independent candidates and small parties across the UK, many of whom fail miserably but still see more success in councils & certain constituencies than they used to, as it's been 'proved' they can win; similarly, the Greens saw a brief surge in the 2010s through their new prominence and the fact one of them had briefly run a city. Dark rumour has it that Britain would see more directly-elected city mayors if Westminster wasn't scared off by yet another big city being run by someone outside of the parties, and the Northern Intercity Party movement continues to rally for elected city mayors to help uplift the region.
The odder legacy of McLaren is the London League, a quasi-professional football league with a team for each borough and an annual Mayor's Cup match between the top eight teams. It remains constantly on the verge of losing money and doesn't attract the big players, but it has a fierce core of fans who see it as truly local rather than owned by big money interests. The 2022 match will be between:
- House of Balls [Westminster]
- Lambeth Lions
- Islington Angels
- Suburban Queens [Ealing]
- Merton United
- Croydon Boys
- Greenwich Time
- The Foresters [Waltham]
35. John Fritzgerd where
Democratic 1961_1963 (Assassinated)
36. Lyndon Baines The
Democratic 1963_1971(Died in office,heart attack)
Defeated Goldwater 64. Nixon 68
37.Hubert Horatio Heck
Democratic 1971_1977(Retired after one term.)
38.Ronald Wilson is
Republican 1977_1985
39.Gerald That (lost Relection)
Republican 1985_1989
40.William Jefferson Carmen
Democratic 1989_1997
41.Richard Sandiago
Republican
(Lost reelection)
42.John Fritgerald where (son of 35.)
Democratic 1997_2005
43.Mitt Did
Republican(lost relection) 2005_2009
44.Hilary She (Never married number 40 in this time line)
45.Barrack Hussain Go
Jefferson party 2009_2017
Democratic 1961_1963 (Assassinated)
36. Lyndon Baines The
Democratic 1963_1971(Died in office,heart attack)
Defeated Goldwater 64. Nixon 68
37.Hubert Horatio Heck
Democratic 1971_1977(Retired after one term.)
38.Ronald Wilson is
Republican 1977_1985
39.Gerald That (lost Relection)
Republican 1985_1989
40.William Jefferson Carmen
Democratic 1989_1997
41.Richard Sandiago
Republican
(Lost reelection)
42.John Fritgerald where (son of 35.)
Democratic 1997_2005
43.Mitt Did
Republican(lost relection) 2005_2009
44.Hilary She (Never married number 40 in this time line)
45.Barrack Hussain Go
Jefferson party 2009_2017
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what is the ken lore, CHARLES
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i see a subtle message……
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You know, you’re extremely good at writing purposefully barely interpretable gibberish.
rosa
Well-known member
Based
someone wasn't able to decipher the code
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The Shadow Ring
Meppo
Anticommunist Mole
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- Default City, Russia
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Charles! this is brilliant and well timed with all the -punks being done you really are one of the stars of flash fiction here
Tfw you desperately try to think of a plausible I-word to make an NIP joke
Comrade Izaac
Secretary General of the Alt-Historians Union
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about the same as other electoral disputes in russia, but exasperated slightly by increasingly worse conditions. things go from mattering very little to becoming an increasingly prominent part of the "Spring Crisis" that catapults Malofeev into the position of Tsar
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1975-1980: Robert Muldoon (National)
1975 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour)
1978 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1980-1981: Brian Talboys (National Majority)
1981-1984: Bill Rowling (Labour)
1981 (Majority) def. Brian Talboys (National), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1984-1987: Bill Birch (National)
1984 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1987-1991: Mike Moore (Labour)
1987 (Majority) def. Bill Birch (National), Gary Knapp (The Democrats)
1990 (Majority) def. Jim McLay (National), Garry Knapp (The Democrats)
1991-1993: Jonathan Hunt (Labour-Democrats Confidence & Supply)
1993-1999: Don McKinnon (National)
1993 (Majority) def. Jonathan Hunt (Labour), Roger Douglas (Liberal), Gary Knapp (The Democrats)
1996 (Coalition with Liberal) def. Michael Cullen (Labour), Roger Douglas (Liberal), John Wright (The Democrats)
1997 Referendum on Electoral Reform: Yes 53%, No 47%
1999-: Annette King (Labour)
1999 (Coalition with The Democrats) def. Don McKinnon (National), John Wright (The Democrats), Richard Prebble (Liberal), Sandra Lee (Mana Motuhake)
The Drones (2019- )
“Based on the radio show starring Rhys Darby and Jackie van Beek of the same name, The Politician is a political comedy following Colin Watts, a slightly dim local businessman in small town New Zealand who finds himself drawn towards the Social Credit movement in Early 80s New Zealand. When the previous parliamentary candidate dies in a freak boating accident, Watts is press ganged into being the new candidate and wins in a surprising victory.
Watts happiness at victory is quickly overshadowed by the fact that Bill Rowling’s Labour has only won by a majority of one and rapidly needs the support of then SoCreds to survive, Watts has to decide whether to put his principles, constituents or country on the line as the Long 80s begins.
Series 2 follows the collapse of Rowling’s Government, the Birch years and Watts wife Sarah pondering her own political future...outside of the Social Credit movement.
The current series three follows Watts having lost his seat and supporting Sarah as she finds herself progressively moving her way up the Moore Government whilst Colin seeks to get back into the Beehive as a Democrat MP which would have dire ramifications on the health of the controversial Moore Government...”
1975 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour)
1978 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1980-1981: Brian Talboys (National Majority)
1981-1984: Bill Rowling (Labour)
1981 (Majority) def. Brian Talboys (National), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1984-1987: Bill Birch (National)
1984 (Majority) def. Bill Rowling (Labour), Bruce Beetham (Social Credit)
1987-1991: Mike Moore (Labour)
1987 (Majority) def. Bill Birch (National), Gary Knapp (The Democrats)
1990 (Majority) def. Jim McLay (National), Garry Knapp (The Democrats)
1991-1993: Jonathan Hunt (Labour-Democrats Confidence & Supply)
1993-1999: Don McKinnon (National)
1993 (Majority) def. Jonathan Hunt (Labour), Roger Douglas (Liberal), Gary Knapp (The Democrats)
1996 (Coalition with Liberal) def. Michael Cullen (Labour), Roger Douglas (Liberal), John Wright (The Democrats)
1997 Referendum on Electoral Reform: Yes 53%, No 47%
1999-: Annette King (Labour)
1999 (Coalition with The Democrats) def. Don McKinnon (National), John Wright (The Democrats), Richard Prebble (Liberal), Sandra Lee (Mana Motuhake)
The Drones (2019- )
“Based on the radio show starring Rhys Darby and Jackie van Beek of the same name, The Politician is a political comedy following Colin Watts, a slightly dim local businessman in small town New Zealand who finds himself drawn towards the Social Credit movement in Early 80s New Zealand. When the previous parliamentary candidate dies in a freak boating accident, Watts is press ganged into being the new candidate and wins in a surprising victory.
Watts happiness at victory is quickly overshadowed by the fact that Bill Rowling’s Labour has only won by a majority of one and rapidly needs the support of then SoCreds to survive, Watts has to decide whether to put his principles, constituents or country on the line as the Long 80s begins.
Series 2 follows the collapse of Rowling’s Government, the Birch years and Watts wife Sarah pondering her own political future...outside of the Social Credit movement.
The current series three follows Watts having lost his seat and supporting Sarah as she finds herself progressively moving her way up the Moore Government whilst Colin seeks to get back into the Beehive as a Democrat MP which would have dire ramifications on the health of the controversial Moore Government...”
Qaz_plm
White Castle soda bet
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Nothing new under the sun
2001-2002: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican) †
2000: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2002-2002: Dick Cheney / Vacant (Republican)
2002-2005: Dick Cheney / George Pataki (Republican)
2005-2009: Rudy Giuliani / Fred Thompson (Republican)
2004: Joe Biden / John McCain (Democratic)
2009-2013: Al Gore / Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic)
2008: Rudy Giuliani / Fred Thompson (Republican)
2013-2017: Jeb Bush / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2012: Al Gore / Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic)
2017-2025: Barack Obama / Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2016: Jeb Bush / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2020: Donald Trump / Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
2001-2002: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican) †
2000: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2002-2002: Dick Cheney / Vacant (Republican)
2002-2005: Dick Cheney / George Pataki (Republican)
2005-2009: Rudy Giuliani / Fred Thompson (Republican)
2004: Joe Biden / John McCain (Democratic)
2009-2013: Al Gore / Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic)
2008: Rudy Giuliani / Fred Thompson (Republican)
2013-2017: Jeb Bush / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2012: Al Gore / Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic)
2017-2025: Barack Obama / Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2016: Jeb Bush / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2020: Donald Trump / Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
1997-2007: Tony Blair (Labour)
1997: John Major (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
2001: William Hague (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2005: Boris Johnson (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2007-2012: Gordon Brown (Labour)
2007: Michael Howard (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrat)
2012-2012: David Miliband (Labour)
1997: John Major (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
2001: William Hague (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2005: Boris Johnson (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2007-2012: Gordon Brown (Labour)
2007: Michael Howard (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrat)
2012-2012: David Miliband (Labour)
rosa
Well-known member
Just like in OTL, Giuliani went from noun, verb, 9/11 to noun, verb, Donald Trump
Makemakean
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1961-1963: John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1963-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1969-1973: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1973-1978: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1978-1981: Alan Bible (Democratic)
1981-1985: Ike Franklin Andrews (Democratic)
1985-1993: Lowell Weicker (Republican)
1993-2001: Steve Forbes (Republican)
2001-2005: Al Gore (Democratic)
2005-2009: Tommy Thompson (Republican)
2009-2013: Al Gore (Democratic)
2013-2021: Newt Gingrich (Republican)
2021-present: Amy Klobuchar (Democratic)
Makemakean
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So, the idea is, after much consideration, Hubert Humphrey opts for a rematch with Nixon, manages to win the primaries after a close contest against McGovern. To appeal to midwesterners, he picks Nevada Senator Alan Bible. Fortunately, Watergate emerges far earlier in this timeline, and Humphrey wins in a landslide.
In 1978, he resigns due to cancer, and Alan Bible takes over, who upon declaring that he has no intention to run for the presidency in 1980 leaves the Democratic field wide open. After America being governed for sixteen of the previous twenty years, the Republicans hope that they might have a chance, but their brand is still intimately linked with Watergate, and memories of the Nixon era are brought to light again once allegations emerge that Nixon and Kissinger might have conspired to sabotage the peace negotiations in Paris in 1968 to prevent an October surprise.
Running on a platform as an outsider and a New Southerner, Ike Franklin Andrews, a North Carolina congressman who was little known at the start of the campaign manages to snatch the nomination thanks to the help of his pollster and close aide, Pat Caddell. Alas, the economy finally collapses under Andrews, and with stagflation and general incumbency fatigue with the Democrats in general, the Republicans under Lowell Weicker finally manages to return to the White House.
During the eight years under him, and then another eight years under businessman Steve Forbes, businesses are deregulated, taxes cut, and the Keynesian consensus overturned. It is first in 2000, when Al Gore wins the election. Al Gore has pursued a strategy of triangulation, which is the style at the time, rebranding his party as the New Democrats (though not officially changing the name), and vowing to govern from the "radical centre."
Alas, despite being predicted an easy comfortable win in 2004, and despite winning over 50% of the popular vote, in an upset in the Electoral College, he is defeated by Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson. Al Gore however decides to do a Grover Cleveland, convinced as he is that his win in the popular vote in 2004 is proof the people still want him. And he wins, now with a much more comfortable majority.
Then the economy collapses, and in 2013, Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House, and Al Gore's old foe in Congress from his first term in office recaptures the White House for the Republicans. After eight years, the Democrats are back under Amy Klobuchar.
So, in the end, it's similar to our timeline, only with slightly different people running the show.
In 1978, he resigns due to cancer, and Alan Bible takes over, who upon declaring that he has no intention to run for the presidency in 1980 leaves the Democratic field wide open. After America being governed for sixteen of the previous twenty years, the Republicans hope that they might have a chance, but their brand is still intimately linked with Watergate, and memories of the Nixon era are brought to light again once allegations emerge that Nixon and Kissinger might have conspired to sabotage the peace negotiations in Paris in 1968 to prevent an October surprise.
Running on a platform as an outsider and a New Southerner, Ike Franklin Andrews, a North Carolina congressman who was little known at the start of the campaign manages to snatch the nomination thanks to the help of his pollster and close aide, Pat Caddell. Alas, the economy finally collapses under Andrews, and with stagflation and general incumbency fatigue with the Democrats in general, the Republicans under Lowell Weicker finally manages to return to the White House.
During the eight years under him, and then another eight years under businessman Steve Forbes, businesses are deregulated, taxes cut, and the Keynesian consensus overturned. It is first in 2000, when Al Gore wins the election. Al Gore has pursued a strategy of triangulation, which is the style at the time, rebranding his party as the New Democrats (though not officially changing the name), and vowing to govern from the "radical centre."
Alas, despite being predicted an easy comfortable win in 2004, and despite winning over 50% of the popular vote, in an upset in the Electoral College, he is defeated by Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson. Al Gore however decides to do a Grover Cleveland, convinced as he is that his win in the popular vote in 2004 is proof the people still want him. And he wins, now with a much more comfortable majority.
Then the economy collapses, and in 2013, Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House, and Al Gore's old foe in Congress from his first term in office recaptures the White House for the Republicans. After eight years, the Democrats are back under Amy Klobuchar.
So, in the end, it's similar to our timeline, only with slightly different people running the show.
Makemakean
Mr Makemean
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What's that got to do with anything?
I was going to joke about it being very on-brand to have a Republican senator whose name is literally A. Bible, but I imagine everyone already did that joke at the time.