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Cartographicum Thandeum

Unfinished attempt to do the current Leader List format with defeated opponents, for the Empire of North America in LTTW. Need some more Patriot leaders. Spoilers for Look to the West!

List of Lords President / Presidents of the Empire of North America

1788-1795: George Augustine Washington, 1st Viscount Washington (crossbencher)
1788: No organised parties
1792: No organised parties (de facto in process of formation)
1795-1799: Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baron Hamilton (Patriot) (1st term)
1795 def: Benjamin Harrison VI (Constitutionalist)
1799-1805: James Monroe (Constitutionalist)
1799 def: Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baron Hamilton (Patriot)
1803 def: Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baron Hamilton (Patriot)
1805-1811: Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baron Hamilton (Patriot) (2nd term)
1805 def: James Monroe (Constitutionalist), Benjamin Rush (American Radical Party)
1809 def: Wade Hampton (Constitutionalist), Benjamin Rush (American Radical Party)
1811-1814: Augustus Seymour (Patriot)
1811 def: Wade Hampton (Constitutionalist), Benjamin Rush (American Radical Party)
1814-1819: Matthew Quincy (Constitutionalist)
1814 def: Augustus Seymour (Patriot), Benjamin Rush (American Radical Party)
1817 def: Artemas Ward Jr (Patriot), Henry Tappan (American Radical Party)
1819-1822: Artemas Ward Jr (Patriot)
1819 def: Matthew Quincy (Constitutionalist), John Alexander (Constitutionalist Whig), Henry Tappan (American Radical Party)
1822 def: John Alexander (Whig), Ralph Purdon/Sir Robert Johnson (Neutral), Eric Mullenburgh (Radical), Arundel Ogilvy (Trust Party)
1822-1825: Josiah Crane (Patriot leading Patriot-Whig coalition; Patriot minority government after 1824)
1825-1828: Benjamin Harrison VII† (Whig leading Whig-Carterite Patriot coalition) (1st President to die in office)
1825 def: Eric Mullenburgh/Derek Boyd (Radical-Neutral pact), Josiah Crane (Patriot, party fragmented after election), Arundel Ogilvy (Trust Party)
1828-1828: Solomon Carter (Carterite Patriot leading Whig-Carterite Patriot coalition) (caretaker)
1828-1832: Andrew Eveleigh (Whig leading Whig-Carterite Patriot coalition) (Parliamentary term prolonged by emergency legislation)
1832-1832: Albert Sinclair (Whig leading Whig-Carterite Patriot coalition)
1832-1839: Eric Mullenburgh† (Radical leading Radical-Neutral coalition with the Neutrals as the larger party) (2nd President to die in office)
1832 def: Philip Hamilton (Patriot), Derek Boyd (Neutral), Albert Sinclair (Whig) , Solomon Carter (Carterite Patriot, defeated), Arundel Ogilvy (Trust Party, defeated)
1837 def: Nathaniel Crowninshield (Patriot), Derek Boyd (Neutral), Albert Sinclair (Whig), Matthew Clarke (Supremacist)
1839-1839: Derek Boyd (Neutral leading Radical-Neutral coalition) (caretaker)
1839-1839: John Vanburen (Radical leading Radical-Neutral coalition with the Neutrals as the larger party) (1st term)
1839-1840: John Vanburen (Liberal minority)
1840-1844: Nathaniel Crowninshield (Patriot)
1840 def: John Vanburen (Liberal), Wade Hampton II (Whig), Joseph Green (Democratic), Matthew Clarke (Supremacist)
1844-1848: John Vanburen (Liberal leading Liberal-Patriot 'American Coalition') (2nd term)
1844 def: Nathaniel Crowninshield (Patriot), Matthew Clarke (Supremacist), Joseph Hairston (Whig) (3-way tie for 2nd), Joseph Green (Democratic, defeated)
1848-1851: Peter Martin† (Supremacist leading Supremacist-Liberal 'Reform Coalition' and then 'War Coalition') (3rd President to die in office)
1848 def: John Vanburen (Liberal), Simon Studholme (Patriot), Joseph Hairston (Whig)
1851-1853: John Vanburen (Liberal leading Supremacist-Liberal 'War Coalition') (3rd term)
1853-1857: Francis Bassett (Patriot leading Patriot-independents 'Peace Coalition' or 'Anti-Reform Coalition')
1853 def: John Vanburen (Liberal, defeated), Matthew Clarke (Supremacist), various independents
1857-1862: Lewis Studebaker (Supremacist minority to 1858, then Supremacist-Liberal National Government 1858-1862)
1857 def: Thomas Whipple (Liberal), Francis Bassett (Patriot)
1862-1867: Thomas Whipple (Liberal minority) (first officially styled 'President')
1862 def: Lewis Studebaker (Supremacist), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1867-1872: Joseph Fletcher (Supremacist minority with Patriot support)
1867 def: Thomas Whipple (Liberal), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1872-1875: Albert Braithwaite† (Liberal minority) (4th President to die in office)
1872 def: Joseph Fletcher (Supremacist), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1875-1885: Michael Chamberlain (Liberal minority, then majority, then minority)
1877 def: Joseph Fletcher (Supremacist), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1882 def: Henry Foxbury (Supremacist), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1885-1887: Henry Foxbury (Supremacist minority with Patriot support)
1885 def: Dennis Cooper (Liberal), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1887-1892: Dennis Cooper (Liberal minority)
1887 def: Henry Foxbury (Supremacist), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1892-1898: Stuart Jamison (Supremacist minority, then Supremacist leading Supremacist-Liberal 'War Coalition' from 1896) (Parliamentary term extended by legislation)
1892 def: Dennis Cooper (Liberal), ? (Patriot), collective leadership (Mentian)
1898-1900: Lewis Burwell (Supremacist leading Supremacist-Liberal War Coalition, then Supremacist minority caretaker)
1900-1908: Lewis Faulkner† (Liberal leading Liberal-Patriot-Mentian 'Social American' coalition) (5th President to die in office)
1900 def: Lewis Burwell (Supremacist), John Wyatt (Patriot), Ernest Newman (Mentian)
1905 def: Tom Gedney (Supremacist), John Wyatt (Patriot), Ernest Newman (Mentian)
1908-1909: Michael C. Dawlish (Liberal leading Liberal-Patriot-Mentian 'Social American' coalition)
1909-1911: Tom Gedney (Supremacist minority with Mentian support)
1909 def: Michael C. Dawlish (Liberal), John Wyatt (Patriot), Ernest Newman (Mentian)
1911-1918: Jack Tayloe VII (Supremacist minority with Mentian support)
1914 def: Michael Briars (Liberal), Meredith Fish (Patriot), Ernest Newman (Mentian)
1919-1924: David Fouracre III (Liberal minority with Mentian support)
1919 def: Jack Tayloe VII (Supremacist), Meredith Fish (Patriot), Magnus Bloom (Mentian)
1924-1926: Augustus 'Gus' Gilmore (Liberal minority with Mentian support) (Parliamentary term extended by legislation)
1926-1927: Michael Briars (Liberal minority with Supremacist and Mentian support)
1927-1931: Roderick Marley (Supremacist minority with intermittent Patriot and Liberal support)
1927 def: Anthony Washborough (Pioneer), Archie Cooper (Liberal), Dame Eleanor Cross (Patriot)
1931-1941: Anthony Washborough (Pioneer minority with Patriot support, then Liberal support) (1st term)
1931 def: Roderick Marley (Supremacist), Dame Eleanor Cross (Patriot), Archie Cooper (Liberal)
1934 def: Roderick Marley (Supremacist), Walter Hickham (Liberal), Dame Eleanor Cross (Patriot)
1939 def: Roderick Marley (Supremacist), Walter Hickham (Liberal), Dame Eleanor Cross (Patriot)
1941-1944: Walter Hickham (Liberal minority with Pioneer support)
1941 def: Anthony Washborough (Pioneer), E. C. Edwards (Supremacist), collective leadership (New Doradist Alliance)
1944-1948: Anthony Washborough (Pioneer minority with Liberal support) (2nd term)
1944 def: Walter Hickham (Liberal), collective leadership (New Doradist Alliance), E. C. Edwards (Supremacist)
1948-1949: Sally Hardwicke (Pioneer minority with Liberal support) (1st female President)
1949-195?: David Stuart (New Doradist Alliance minority with Liberal support, then Supremacist support)
1949 def: Sally Hardwicke (Pioneer), Rose Alderney Wilcox (Liberal), E. C. Edwards (Supremacist)
1954 def: Frank Wirth (Pioneer), Charles Thompson (Supremacist), Rose Alderney Wilcox (Liberal)
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I always forget Tower 'Amlets still violently flips between 'dodgy Labour' and 'dodgy populist localists', I thought it had settled down as permanently the former for some reason.
 
I am not inconsiderably incandescent to discover (though I think it was hinted before) that we don't seem to have the ward-by-ward data for the London mayoral and assembly elections of 2024. I did find the minutes of a committee where several good citizens were criticising this though!
 
Crosspost of my latest LTTW map...

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Thande said:
I've been looking for good maps of 1964 London borough ward boundaries for yonks, I've just found a cool website which has them (albeit not for all boroughs) going back as far as 1900! https://www.agrayarea.info/maps/ @Ares96 @Alex Richards
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Did not realise how big the pre-Greater London borough councils were. Holborn having 42 councillors right up until the end feels particularly egregious.
 
prime-minister said:
I'm fascinated by the 'Non-Political Union' in the early St Marylebone maps. Do we have any record of what their agenda was?
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I'll have to see if it's in those 1930s borough election results books I found a while ago. I would guess it's either code for 'residents/ratepayers' or maybe union means 'trade union but not socialist'.
 
Thande said:
I'll have to see if it's in those 1930s borough election results books I found a while ago. I would guess it's either code for 'residents/ratepayers' or maybe union means 'trade union but not socialist'.
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I was guessing the second, yeah. The other possible explanation (it's a bit out of left-field considering the period though) is maybe they supported the failed movement that intended to keep the LCC/London's local government in general nonpartisan?

I'm not sure it'll be in those books though considering the last time they won seats (at least in St Marylebone) was 1903.
 
Ares96 said:
Given it's St Marylebone, I would guess not the latter.
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You have a point, checking it against the same wards later in history the only time any area the Non-Political Union councillors won has ever voted for Labour was in 2022, and I'm pretty sure that's basically because the ward in question (Bryanston & Dorset Square) got folded into the new Hyde Park ward. Not to mention voting Labour in 2022 versus 1903 means something quite different.
 
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