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gentleman biaggi said:
you know this is actually an interesting political scenario

as we all know the democrats largely split because the mob backed ethnic machines in the north broke with the segregationist backed machines in the south

what if the dixie mob comes in and starts their own mobbed up machines down south


i call it

Vegas In Dixie

folsom winning in ‘62 is a good start for this cause there’s no way wallace is sharing power with anyone but himself

also maybe a stronger labor presence idk
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1984 Election:
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Joseph DiCarlo/Jim Folsom Jr. (Democratic) - 341 EVs
Frank Borman/Shelby Smith (Republican) - 197 EVs​
 
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gentleman biaggi said:
1984 Election:
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Joseph DiCarlo/Jim Folsom Jr. (Democratic) - 341 EVs
Frank Borman/Shelby Smith (Republican) - 197 EVs





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This is a low-key a smart/cursed way of keeping the New Deal Coalition around. Maybe Johnson doesn't waste all of his political capital on Vietnam and succeeds in repealing Taft-Hartley and right-to-work is destroyed?
 
AnActualFam said:
This is a low-key a smart/cursed way of keeping the New Deal Coalition around. Maybe Johnson doesn't waste all of his political capital on Vietnam and succeeds in repealing Taft-Hartley and right-to-work is destroyed?
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you’re actually very smart
 
AnActualFam said:
This is a low-key a smart/cursed way of keeping the New Deal Coalition around. Maybe Johnson doesn't waste all of his political capital on Vietnam and succeeds in repealing Taft-Hartley and right-to-work is destroyed?
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Kennedy Coalition Retained:

(or, Goldwater does just a tad worse and LBJ gets to build his perfect coalition*)

1964 Election:
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Lyndon Baines Johnson/Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic) - 503 EVs, 65.4%
Barry Morris Goldwater/William Edward Miller (Republican) - 35 EVs, 33.5%

1966 Alabama Gubernatorial Democratic Primary - Runoff
Ryan DeGraffenried Sr. - 50.7%
Lurleen Wallace - 49.1%

1968 Election:
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Hubert Horatio Humphrey/Joseph Lawrence Alito (Democratic) - 297 EVs, 48.7%
William Gilmer Bray/John Goodwin Tower (Republican) - 193 EVs, 45.7%
James Douglas "Justice Jim" Johnson/Marvin Griffin (National) - 48 EVs, 5.3%

1972 Election:
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Hubert Horatio Humphrey/Joseph Lawrence Alito (Democratic) - 361 EVs, 54.2%
Wendell Reid Corey/Robert Alphonso Taft Jr. (Republican) - 177 EVs. 43.6%

1976 Election:
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Philip Herman Willkie/John Richard "Jack" Williams (Republican) - 277 EVs
Joseph Lawrence Alito/Melba Till Allen (Democratic) - 261 EVs

1980 Election:
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Philip Herman Willkie/John Richard "Jack" Williams (Republican) - 325 EVs
Louis Lexington** Lambert/Ken Hechler (Democratic) - 209 EVs
Barry Commoner/James Kimmel (Freedom) - 4 EVs
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gentleman biaggi said:
Kennedy Coalition Retained:

(or, Goldwater does just a tad worse and LBJ gets to build his perfect coalition*)

1964 Election:
View attachment 38799
Lyndon Baines Johnson/Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic) - 503 EVs, 65.4%
Barry Morris Goldwater/William Edward Miller (Republican) - 35 EVs, 33.5%

1966 Alabama Gubernatorial Democratic Primary - Runoff
Ryan DeGraffenried Sr. - 50.7%
Lurleen Wallace - 49.1%

1968 Election:
View attachment 38800
Hubert Horatio Humphrey/Joseph Lawrence Alito (Democratic) - 297 EVs, 48.7%
William Gilmer Bray/John Goodwin Tower (Republican) - 193 EVs, 45.7%
James Douglas "Justice Jim" Johnson/Marvin Griffin (National) - 48 EVs, 5.3%

1972 Election:
View attachment 38803

Hubert Horatio Humphrey/Joseph Lawrence Alito (Democratic) - 361 EVs, 54.2%
Wendell Reid Corey/Robert Alphonso Taft Jr. (Republican) - 177 EVs. 43.6%

1976 Election:
View attachment 38804
Philip Herman Willkie/John Richard "Jack" Williams (Republican) - 277 EVs
Joseph Lawrence Alito/Melba Till Allen (Democratic) - 261 EVs

1980 Election:
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Philip Herman Willkie/John Richard "Jack" Williams (Republican) - 325 EVs
Louis Lexington** Lambert/Ken Hechler (Democratic) - 209 EVs
Barry Commoner/James Kimmel (Freedom) - 4 EVs
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Incredible. Simply incredible. We can even have the city party machines connected with Humphrey's ideas of an "American Marshall Plan" that included civic peace councils. Imagine all the machine shenanigans that would come about because of it.
 
rosa said:
The OG Jim Justice. I am interested though, what cause this big a divergence in nominees?
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Probably with no Vietnam War and Union being empowered like hell it means 1966 is another 1962. This means Nixon probably decides to give up on his dream of making a comeback thanks to the failure in 1968. I think we would see Rocky/the Eastern establishment think outside the box as there seems to be no strong candidate. Maybe Brown doesn't run again and we get Governor Yorty instead? But yeah I think you can have a lot of fun with the Republicans failing totally in 1966.
 
As inevitable as tomorrow morning....

Major League Baseball Clubs

American League:
-Baltimore Orioles
-Boston Red Sox
-Chicago Fire[1]
-Cleveland Indians
-Detroit Tigers
-Milwaukee White Sox
-Miami Hurricanes
-New York Yankees
-Los Angeles Angels
-Louisville Sluggers[2]
-Portland Beavers
-Washington Senators

National League:
-Birmingham Warriors
-Brooklyn Orange[3][4]
-Chicago Cubs
-Cincinnati Reds
-Los Angeles Dodgers
-New Orleans Jazz
-Philadelphia Phillies
-Pittsburgh Pirates
-San Diego Braves
-San Francisco Giants
-Seattle Rainiers
-St. Louis Cardinals

Continental League:
-Atlanta Peaches
-Buffalo Bison
-Chicago Workers[5]
-Houston I's[6]
-Indiana Motors
-Los Angeles Stars
-Mile-High[7] Rockies
-Minneapolis Diamonds
-Oakland Oaks
-New York Empire
-Texas[8] Rodeo
-Toronto Blues

[1] OTL Texas Rangers
[2] OTL Oakland A's
[3] Lol.
[4] Although the Continental League is good at bringing baseball back to NYC, the need for a Brooklyn baseball team is present, and NYC populist congressman Vito Battista spends a good decade attacking the MLB to bring a team to Brooklyn, despite his hatred of taxes.
[5] Daley is good at propaganda
[6] Originally named the "Independents" after Texas's "independent spirit" and Sam Houston's time as president of Texas, the team was nicknamed the I's, which has since stuck and become the general name for the team.
[7] Denver
[8] Dallas

Robert Wagner Jr. is definitely president in this timeline
 
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