Depends. Does it have to be peaceful?
I could see Brazil doing it after the fall of the military junta if it obtains nukes during the seventies or eighties. Maybe Argentina in a “the junta survives after 1983 and gets nukes” scenario.
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I could see Brazil doing it after the fall of the military junta if it obtains nukes during the seventies or eighties. Maybe Argentina in a “the junta survives after 1983 and gets nukes” scenario.
Probably, for the sake of similarities.
Franco's Spain is another one. It had a substantive effort backed by everything from large uranium deposits to being able to salvage the remnants of crashed American nuclear bombs that I could see a later democratic government dismantling if it actually made a bomb.
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I feel like you could have Hoxhaist Albania work if they could get uranium from somewhere. It has the right mentality.
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There was a 'project' in the sense that a scientist sold the idea to Gierek, but that was likely a scam to get funding for research into tech with more civil applications. Certainly there's no actual evidence (mythology aside) that it was going to come off.
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I can only imagine what a modern-ish Canadian nuke program would look like.
Year 0: Announce creation of a Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program.
Year 2: Establish Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program Secretariat at Public Services and Procurement Canada.
Year 4: Launch process to identify possible builders of Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program.
Year 7: Re-start process when Supreme Court rules that the government's list of technical requirements is excessively stringent and would favor some bidders.
Year 11: Award contract to SNC-Lavalin.
Etc...
Year 0: Announce creation of a Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program.
Year 2: Establish Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program Secretariat at Public Services and Procurement Canada.
Year 4: Launch process to identify possible builders of Canadian Lethal Physics Package Program.
Year 7: Re-start process when Supreme Court rules that the government's list of technical requirements is excessively stringent and would favor some bidders.
Year 11: Award contract to SNC-Lavalin.
Etc...
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And then they cancel the program, and they sell toy warheads with maple leaves on them at tourist shops.
And then, down the line, Canadians wistfully talk about how the warhead was the most powerful and effective nuclear device ever, and was pushed into cancellation by the jealous Americans.
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Our uranium is ethically sourced and environmentally responsible.
Canada is probably the only country to have had a government collapse over the issue of nuclear weapons. What's even more interesting is that the Conservatives didn't want nuclear weapons while the Liberals did. It's such a strange issue and such a strange election especially for something happening in 1963 (source).
And, given first it's status as the PRCs European outpost and later a total pariah (as well as the Yugoslavian threat) the political justification as well.
You would however need to change the PRC’s policy of being more careful externally in terms of nukes. In fact,numerous articles in the era state that it’s really implausible for the PRC to put nukes in Albania,let alone give Hoxha one.
Alternate History of "Fascists and Liberals ally against Communists in alternate World War II" is potentially very interesting but sadly most people rather go for lazy analogism without understanding the fact that there are very clear differences between fascist and communist ideology that would make such a war, along with the world after it, much different than OTL but with another coat of paint. If nothing else, it would be a better fate for leftist ideology than the one they got OTL - IOTL, they got four decades of peace and still their societies collapsed and those that didn't were forced to reform. In this alternate WW2 they would have fought on against a coalition of various states and a military defeat wouldn't really mean that their ideology is wrong, or at least not as many people would think that rather than IOTL.
Yeah, the only place they really trusted with nuclear technology was Pakistan (where they more or less openly shared their developments to jumpstart that country's atomic program). And that was already a close ally.
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That isn't only Chinese policy. Look at how the US foiled Taiwan's nuclear project.
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It wasn't in government at the time (and arguably failed to enter government specifically because of this) but the Union of the Left broke up in Frabce in 1978 because of the Communists adopting a pro-nuke stance at odds with the agreement with the Socialists and the Left Radicals.
I’m of the view that not only would WW1 have started in 1917 anyway if Princip had failed anyway due to Ferdinand‘s wish to destroy Hungary and Count Tisza preparing an UDI just in case,but that Romanians and Hungarians would have hated each other more due to the former automatically siding with Ferdinand because he’d promised them SOME rights and also because they resented the Hungarians for treating Romanians lower than second class citizens and being entitled as fuck.
I can see that causing a war, but whether that speaks into a World War in quite the same way, I'm unsure. I suppose it depends on Russia backing Hungarian rebels? Or Romania trying to support rebels against Hungarian authorities? The latter could easily fall off a similar cliff to OTL.
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