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Cobalt Stamper probably has a lengthy backstory as the protagonist of a "Men's Adventure" series.
Max Sinister
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There's one thing I'm missing in posts like this: Characterization. We get the names of the people, their party/place in the political spectrum, their term, but not much else. What kind of people are they? That's important if we can't look them up on WP.
That's fair but when you consider something like this from the perspective of being written "in-universe", that kind of detail wouldn't be included. This isn't like a timeline where we get the whole story from beginning to end, it's just a brief snapshot from one single place and time. Also in my post, the primary focus isn't the individual justices but the system which they are existing in.
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Loving the geographically named justices, Arizona Watford Ruiz, as well as the islands of Rodrigues, Rhodes and Trinidad (Rodrigues is such a common name it would have looked routine without the other islands).
Plus I misread Justice Cantrell as Denmark Central
Whereas Sheldon Danger, Median Justice, was a young teens show.
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Pan-Euro Railway (Northern Line)
* Denmark Central (contains branch lines of Norse Tunnel and Swedish Tunnel)
* Hamburg-Hanover
* Deutsch Central (changeover to the East-West Line)
* Swiss Border
* Milan
I didn't realize there was an island of Rodrigues! I was conscious of Rhodes and Trinidad being islands but the name Trinidad was chosen because she was born on Trinity Sunday.
Here is a picture of Judge Sheldon Danger:
Comrade Izaac
Secretary General of the Alt-Historians Union
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shame we haven't given up the absolutely dog water tier quality judge robes for something sleeker and more attractive by 2077
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List of Major Combatants of the Southron Bush War
Southron Republic: The Government, run by the Southron Rights Party which with the nation’s independence regained, became a generic kleptocratic self-maintaining party. Their forces were comprised of the small National Army and the larger State Militias, and as pressure began to build throughout the 50s and 60s, these forces became less and less able to keep the nation together.
Sons of the South: The Sons were established as a replacement for the Kuklos Khruseos, whose purpose had been invalidated by the return of independence. As the Bush War continued, this Paramilitary began to gain power, especially in regions that felt the Government in Terminus didn’t go far enough. Eventually, when the Surrender ended the War in 1970, the Sons of the South seized control of lands south of the 31st parallel, declared themselves the legitimate government, under Boulangerist ideals, and ordered the murder of all African persons in their lands.
Free African Liberation Army: FALA was a rebel faction much like the SAPF, but they differed strongly on the ideals of their rebellions. Whereas the SAPF merely wanted to replace the Southron Government, with a truly functional democracy with Equality of the Races, FALA believed that the races fundamentally cannot cohabitate, and advocated for the expulsion of whites from the nation. They attempted to follow SAPF into the post-war political scene of Magnolia but didn’t have remotely the appeal of their compatriots. They mostly survive these days among the Separatist Communes, but basically, every other active Party refuses to work with them.
Southron-African People’s Front: In the 1950s, as the government slowly declined into a kleptocracy, a Civil Rights Movement began among communities of color throughout the South. The police did not take too kindly to these ‘disturbances of the peace’, and this likewise pushed the various groups to become more militant. Eventually, a financial collapse of the Southron economy saw many of these groups launch guerilla campaigns across the country. As the Government continued to decline, the groups who were pursuing a multiracial South merged into the SAPF. (The others would generally join the FALA). After the war, the SAPF became one of the new political parties of the new Republic of Magnolia.
New Free States Movement: Not truly a united faction but an alliance of many different groups who each opposed the Southron Government. It included the Cumberland Free State in East Tennessee, the Blue Ridge Free State in North Carolina, the Nickajack Free State in Mountainous Georgia and Alabama, the Liberty Free State in South Carolina, and the Gullah-Gitchee Free State in the Sea Island.
Workman’s Army of the South: the Workman’s Army was a militia funded by the Workman’s Republic of the Mississippi. They were not particularly successful in taking any territory, but they did often co-operate with the SAPF and FALA and at least provided a good Internationalist boogeyman for the Government
Rural Reform League: The Populist movement that swept America in the 1880s never had much penetration in the Deep South. After the Civil War, they became an opposition Party to the Southron Party, but after the Bush War ended, the Party’s position on Segregation put them in the Government’s crosshairs. However, many members refused to give up and became yet another combatant in the Bush War.
Southron Republic: The Government, run by the Southron Rights Party which with the nation’s independence regained, became a generic kleptocratic self-maintaining party. Their forces were comprised of the small National Army and the larger State Militias, and as pressure began to build throughout the 50s and 60s, these forces became less and less able to keep the nation together.
Sons of the South: The Sons were established as a replacement for the Kuklos Khruseos, whose purpose had been invalidated by the return of independence. As the Bush War continued, this Paramilitary began to gain power, especially in regions that felt the Government in Terminus didn’t go far enough. Eventually, when the Surrender ended the War in 1970, the Sons of the South seized control of lands south of the 31st parallel, declared themselves the legitimate government, under Boulangerist ideals, and ordered the murder of all African persons in their lands.
Free African Liberation Army: FALA was a rebel faction much like the SAPF, but they differed strongly on the ideals of their rebellions. Whereas the SAPF merely wanted to replace the Southron Government, with a truly functional democracy with Equality of the Races, FALA believed that the races fundamentally cannot cohabitate, and advocated for the expulsion of whites from the nation. They attempted to follow SAPF into the post-war political scene of Magnolia but didn’t have remotely the appeal of their compatriots. They mostly survive these days among the Separatist Communes, but basically, every other active Party refuses to work with them.
Southron-African People’s Front: In the 1950s, as the government slowly declined into a kleptocracy, a Civil Rights Movement began among communities of color throughout the South. The police did not take too kindly to these ‘disturbances of the peace’, and this likewise pushed the various groups to become more militant. Eventually, a financial collapse of the Southron economy saw many of these groups launch guerilla campaigns across the country. As the Government continued to decline, the groups who were pursuing a multiracial South merged into the SAPF. (The others would generally join the FALA). After the war, the SAPF became one of the new political parties of the new Republic of Magnolia.
New Free States Movement: Not truly a united faction but an alliance of many different groups who each opposed the Southron Government. It included the Cumberland Free State in East Tennessee, the Blue Ridge Free State in North Carolina, the Nickajack Free State in Mountainous Georgia and Alabama, the Liberty Free State in South Carolina, and the Gullah-Gitchee Free State in the Sea Island.
Workman’s Army of the South: the Workman’s Army was a militia funded by the Workman’s Republic of the Mississippi. They were not particularly successful in taking any territory, but they did often co-operate with the SAPF and FALA and at least provided a good Internationalist boogeyman for the Government
Rural Reform League: The Populist movement that swept America in the 1880s never had much penetration in the Deep South. After the Civil War, they became an opposition Party to the Southron Party, but after the Bush War ended, the Party’s position on Segregation put them in the Government’s crosshairs. However, many members refused to give up and became yet another combatant in the Bush War.
The McGann Years
After the 1996 pilot 'movie' - where McGann regenerates from Tom Baker, explicitly seperating from the 'classic' canon - the show settled into a format where the Doctor, Grace, and Chang have adventures in time and space, often clashing with the Master. Of the twenty episodes a year, four needed to be written by British writers and filmed in the UK as part of the BBC's deal with Fox, backed up by McGann who'd quite like to visit his friends and family some time. The Cybermen, the Sontarans, and the Master would be the recurring foes in the first season, while various episodes would be adaptations of original Who stories and Charisma Carpenter made guest appearances as Sarah Jane Smith. S1 ended on a loose remake of the Web of Fear, featuring the Master taking over the New York subway system and featuring Clancy Brown as the cigar-chomping Brigadier Lethbridge.
While S1 had its high points, it had notable flaws: episodes set in the future criticised for being "cod-Sliders", the Cybermen being "too Borg" (and deliberately so), and Chang being a third-wheel comic relief character with no real role. S2-3 changed that (unfortunately this included dropping Chang rather than writing him better) and, after negotiations with the Nation estate, brought in the Daleks and sparked off a mini-Dalekmania. A spinoff about Sara Kingdom (played by Claudia Christian) would get trailed and released most of the way through S3. A version of UNIT, now a paramilitary Men in Black outfit, would be brought in for the present-day Earth stories.
S4 would then run into issues. Daphne Ashbrook had dramatically left the series near the end of S3, and the show plugged the gap by elevating Carpenter to main role (causing bad blood between Doctor Who and the Mutant Enemy team, as it eleventh-houred the plans for Angel), but this removed the will-they-won't-they element between the Doctor and Grace. So the show put it in halfway through S4 with Sarah Jane and it was too awkward a fit. Worse, the show had a money spat with the Nation estate and lost the Daleks; the US-original monsters had yet to catch on; and some of the classic beasties from the show were already in license agreements with outfits like Reeltime, BBV, and Telos Publishing.
McGann, at this point, decided to leave.
The Mayall Year
S5 is popular in Britain and Australia. America, not so much - Rick Mayall was an inspired choice for the Doctor but not the smouldering handsome romantic lead McGann was, and his portrayal aggressively anarchic and manic. Attempts at will-they-won't-they died a death. Running low on monsters, the show had turned to the Quarks as a really obvious power play with the Nation estate, "we don't NEED Daleks to do Dalek stories", and the critics & fans howled in derision.
Ratings dropped in America but went up in the UK, so the show got shifted to UPN from this point.
The Wolf Years
Jobbing actor Matt Wolf had his big break as UPN aimed for a younger, sexier Doctor with equally young, sexy college-ish companions. To save money, the show now focused a lot of the Earth-based stories on Lambert College and tried to negotiate out of the UK filming commitment (it finally would by S7). A deal was made to get the Daleks back.
Ratings stabilised due to the escapades of the hunky Doctor and his companion, at least in America; ratings dipped in the UK, Ireland, and Australia. The show merrily carried on with what one critic called "Who's Buffy" for three years, but by S8 this format was notably tired and stale. It didn't help that the UK-writers mandate had ended by then, removing a source of episodes that were often divergent from the American writer's room.
To boost ratings in S8, the Master made a reappearance (Eric Roberts cost money and so had been left out of UPN) for a five-story arc that ended with Lambert College exploding, the Master finally dead, and the Doctor in a cliffhanger for S9: waking up in a WW2 POW hospital tent to see a Sontaran in a Nazi uniform.
S9 was an ambitious attempt to do a year-long serial, with the Doctor stuck in the 1940s trying to ensure time stayed on track and knowing his new companion, a US Army nurse, was historically doomed to die. The ambition was more than the show could actually pull off with its writers or its budget or with an audience who'd been expecting more variety. With ratings dropping, the fourteenth episode abruptly pivoted into a War Games remake before sending the Doctor back to Modern Day
The Shephard Years
Character actor Mark Shephard took over as the UPN turned into the CW and the budget was in shambles. He was promised it would just be one year as the show wouldn't move to the CW. He was there for three years as executives decided Doctor Who was still doing okay enough as long as more cuts were done. This was a problem as not only did Shephard not really want to do three years, his first year was a continuity-heavy ending that saw a Time War between Daleks and Time Lords and an appearance by Richard E Grant as an alternative universe Doctor (referencing the 'Classic Who' expanded universe).
Nobody knew what the hell they were doing in the last two years. Plotlines meander, the companions are rapidly cycled through because agents wouldn't let their clients be tied down, returning characters pop up (and sometimes die) in desperate attempts to wean actors back, the money wasn't there for returning classic monsters, and the sets wobble. The Master was back from the dead in the Time War as a new actor but that actor had, thinking Doctor Who was ending, got a recurring role on another show and so could be barely used. Weirdest of all, the show crossed over with Supernatural and thus made demons & ghosts canonical to Who (?).
Mark Shephard became so disgruntled that he contrived to escape and made enough trouble on set to 'negotiate' an early release.
The Marcell Weeks
Joseph Marcell agreed to do the last four episodes of Doctor Who solely because he'd been in Remembrance of the Daleks and thought it'd be a laugh to get to be the Doctor after. The atmosphere on set was not a laugh. In an attempt at tying things off, the Doctor's last scene is being shot by gangsters in a future San Francisco after capturing the Master and he starts to regenerate. All this did was mean the CW had to confirm the show was cancelled, this wasn't a hint it was coming back after all with a new actor.
Walpurgisnacht
It was in the Year of Maximum Danger
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That's funny, I started looking at this list and immediately began bleeding from the mouth, nose, and eyes.
I do admire the deepcut of Matt Wolf, as well as the implication that the old DWEU is merrily ignoring Fox in its quest to produce the most obtuse and confusing Virgin New Adventures possible.
Me: "What's the least expected low-rent UK actor that could do it"
Me: "[remembers Transmorphers had a UK actor]"
Me: "Yes... ha ha ha... YES!"
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The Land of the Rising Moon
Kingdom of Britain Run-Down,
The Fifteenth Year of the Wise Queen Victoria of the House of Britannia, the Founding Year 2996 ["in the year of our Lord 1881"]
Queen Victoria: All hail the Scion of Brutus, the Daughter of Aphrodite and the Favoured of Artemis! The one who restored her lineage's true claim to rule the island, free from any interference by any dukes (blergh). And now she's implementing a constitution with elections. Elections? In Britain?
President of the Cabinet Joseph Chamberlain: An unlikely choice, but one the Queen is sure on. Tokyo-educated and from a huscarl family, he has acquired a bit of a radical reputation as somewhat of a liberal while over in the UE. Hopefully he knows his place when implementing the Queen's will.
Factions
Parties are still banned, we're not going back to the Rage of Party any time soon, that almost destroyed our fair Britain. But unfortunately, factions will always exist, for politicians love to congregate with other politicians of similar mentality. Hopefully Her Majesty will keep a close eye on them.
National Reform Association: The President's faction, it's made out of liberal and nationalist huscarls who are fully on board the ideas of Constitutionalism, Economic Reform, Modernisation and Nationalism, all the things that were behind the Victorian Restoration, apparently. The Queen gives them her favour, but they can be excessive at times in their belief that Britain should seek to modernise, including its very culture.
Primrose League: The major faction opposing the NRA, it's led by the conservative aristocrat Lord Randolph Churchill. While it's not championing a return to the duchy any time soon, it's sceptical of NRA's modernisation. Instead, Churchill advocates 'British spirit, Eastern learning'. The Primrose League are popular with more poorer Britons due to Churchill's championing of Poor Laws as contrast to Chamberlain's rapid industrialisation.
Constitutional Club: The Primrose League may be the primary association for conservative sentiment, but there are those who mutter that Churchill is too radical. While obviously not supporting a return to the duchy, this Club is made out of those who markedly lost influence as a result of the Restoration.
Order of the North: One controversial thing Her Majesty did was force the separation of Albionism and Norse religion. Traditionally the two were seen as one and the same with the latter being favoured by the state, but since the fall of the duchy, the Norse religion hasn't enjoyed much favour from the State. The Order of the North is a barely tolerated association supporting "Patriotic Norse Religion" and uncompromising loyalty to the "Scion of Woden".
Labour Electoral Association: Turns out that there's people who think the unwashed masses should get a say. Not even the United Empire does that. Why should we let them do so? The NRA has encouraged this idiocy for way too long, to be honest.
"Hidden Christians": Well, they're no longer hidden now, since we had to agree to religious tolerance, but yes, they're still a thing. The whole idea of the "Anglican Communion" still baffles me. An attempt at making Christianity "British"? How odd.
Legations
The world comes to Camelot to judge us. They always find us wanting. One day, we will show them we are the best!
United Empire: Its full name is "United Empire of Japan and Korea". Or the Japanese Empire. It's by far the biggest colonial empire. A lot of its people weirdly like us, even in a strangely patronising way, and one or two has called us the "Japan of the West" for our determination to industrialise. Religiously speaking they're Christian, even if their denomination - the Yamato Church - is a confusing one.
Han Republic: A republic, like the ancient Romans before they became imperial. How strange. Must be a strange Eastern thing. Apparently they overthrew their emperor back in 2904? How radical. But apparently Japan did it too? How disturbing. We must learn to avoid those silly things.
Yue Empire: Recently united the shattered Yue lands into one Empire, well, apart from the Viet, but apparently that's fine by them after a recent war. Her Majesty has sent an observer to note their war against the Han for the rest of the lands south of the Yangtze River.
Viet-Thai Empire: After that humiliating war against the Yue, the Viet finally agreed to a deal with the Thai for a... 'dual monarchy'? How odd.
Siberian Empire: Apparently Siberia claims to be the last legacy of the old 'China'. A 'New China' so to speak. How odd. They've got quite far into Europe, and now borders Rome on the Volga. Siberia might want to jump on the dying Rome and take more...
Mughal Empire: The 'Sick Man of Asia', it's not doing well what with the Dravidian business that has got the East very interested.
Senate and People of Rome - Fabian Dynasty: The Fabian Dynasty. How weak. They got humiliated by people who should be regarded as backwards. We will never be like them. We will be great. And we will crush them for good to get... what did the Yue Emperor say, a place in the sun?
Kingdom of Ireland - O'Neill Dynasty: Our cousins to the west. What an irritant. And as Churchill so noted, when independent they are a knife to our throat. One day we will have to deal with them, otherwise our security will be constantly under threat. One day.
United Provinces of Enkei: The ones who ended our isolation by force, they're from a land to our west, and is a very rich country. A republic, though.
Kingdom of Britain Run-Down,
The Fifteenth Year of the Wise Queen Victoria of the House of Britannia, the Founding Year 2996 ["in the year of our Lord 1881"]
Queen Victoria: All hail the Scion of Brutus, the Daughter of Aphrodite and the Favoured of Artemis! The one who restored her lineage's true claim to rule the island, free from any interference by any dukes (blergh). And now she's implementing a constitution with elections. Elections? In Britain?
President of the Cabinet Joseph Chamberlain: An unlikely choice, but one the Queen is sure on. Tokyo-educated and from a huscarl family, he has acquired a bit of a radical reputation as somewhat of a liberal while over in the UE. Hopefully he knows his place when implementing the Queen's will.
Factions
Parties are still banned, we're not going back to the Rage of Party any time soon, that almost destroyed our fair Britain. But unfortunately, factions will always exist, for politicians love to congregate with other politicians of similar mentality. Hopefully Her Majesty will keep a close eye on them.
National Reform Association: The President's faction, it's made out of liberal and nationalist huscarls who are fully on board the ideas of Constitutionalism, Economic Reform, Modernisation and Nationalism, all the things that were behind the Victorian Restoration, apparently. The Queen gives them her favour, but they can be excessive at times in their belief that Britain should seek to modernise, including its very culture.
Primrose League: The major faction opposing the NRA, it's led by the conservative aristocrat Lord Randolph Churchill. While it's not championing a return to the duchy any time soon, it's sceptical of NRA's modernisation. Instead, Churchill advocates 'British spirit, Eastern learning'. The Primrose League are popular with more poorer Britons due to Churchill's championing of Poor Laws as contrast to Chamberlain's rapid industrialisation.
Constitutional Club: The Primrose League may be the primary association for conservative sentiment, but there are those who mutter that Churchill is too radical. While obviously not supporting a return to the duchy, this Club is made out of those who markedly lost influence as a result of the Restoration.
Order of the North: One controversial thing Her Majesty did was force the separation of Albionism and Norse religion. Traditionally the two were seen as one and the same with the latter being favoured by the state, but since the fall of the duchy, the Norse religion hasn't enjoyed much favour from the State. The Order of the North is a barely tolerated association supporting "Patriotic Norse Religion" and uncompromising loyalty to the "Scion of Woden".
Labour Electoral Association: Turns out that there's people who think the unwashed masses should get a say. Not even the United Empire does that. Why should we let them do so? The NRA has encouraged this idiocy for way too long, to be honest.
"Hidden Christians": Well, they're no longer hidden now, since we had to agree to religious tolerance, but yes, they're still a thing. The whole idea of the "Anglican Communion" still baffles me. An attempt at making Christianity "British"? How odd.
Legations
The world comes to Camelot to judge us. They always find us wanting. One day, we will show them we are the best!
United Empire: Its full name is "United Empire of Japan and Korea". Or the Japanese Empire. It's by far the biggest colonial empire. A lot of its people weirdly like us, even in a strangely patronising way, and one or two has called us the "Japan of the West" for our determination to industrialise. Religiously speaking they're Christian, even if their denomination - the Yamato Church - is a confusing one.
Han Republic: A republic, like the ancient Romans before they became imperial. How strange. Must be a strange Eastern thing. Apparently they overthrew their emperor back in 2904? How radical. But apparently Japan did it too? How disturbing. We must learn to avoid those silly things.
Yue Empire: Recently united the shattered Yue lands into one Empire, well, apart from the Viet, but apparently that's fine by them after a recent war. Her Majesty has sent an observer to note their war against the Han for the rest of the lands south of the Yangtze River.
Viet-Thai Empire: After that humiliating war against the Yue, the Viet finally agreed to a deal with the Thai for a... 'dual monarchy'? How odd.
Siberian Empire: Apparently Siberia claims to be the last legacy of the old 'China'. A 'New China' so to speak. How odd. They've got quite far into Europe, and now borders Rome on the Volga. Siberia might want to jump on the dying Rome and take more...
Mughal Empire: The 'Sick Man of Asia', it's not doing well what with the Dravidian business that has got the East very interested.
Senate and People of Rome - Fabian Dynasty: The Fabian Dynasty. How weak. They got humiliated by people who should be regarded as backwards. We will never be like them. We will be great. And we will crush them for good to get... what did the Yue Emperor say, a place in the sun?
Kingdom of Ireland - O'Neill Dynasty: Our cousins to the west. What an irritant. And as Churchill so noted, when independent they are a knife to our throat. One day we will have to deal with them, otherwise our security will be constantly under threat. One day.
United Provinces of Enkei: The ones who ended our isolation by force, they're from a land to our west, and is a very rich country. A republic, though.
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Just a snapshot into a world where the Bayh-Celler amdendment passed but not a lot of other reform has happened.
The party political Rundown. October 2020
Presidential Candidates
Senator Elizabeth Warren/Senator Tammy Duckworth (Democrat) (Official DSA) (Congressional African American) (Raza Unida) (Vermont Progressive) (Working Families) ( DFL): Am I totally in the niche of a candidate endorsed by both the Democrats and the DSA? Yes. Am I smiling far too much at the DSA and the Democrats having to finally share a stage after Dems spurning Gravel in 08 (as an Indy, I know) and Bernie in 12 and 16? Also yes. Small chance she straight up wins the first round. Almost certain to get through to the second round . Could theoretically get a Dem-DSA-etc-etc Govt in congress too. Will this finally reform Congress? who Knows
Businessman Donald Trump/Senator Joni Ernst (Make America Great Again) (“Trump” Republicans) (Constitution) (Independence) (American) Diiiiiiicks he’s still the favourite to join Warren in the second round. Second times a charm. Whether a Trump Presidency would translate into a MAGA majority in the lower House is another matter given the party is just an ego vehicle for him. Will the GOP work with him? On some things, sure. Also notable that he's spurned Mike Pence over serving as Jeb's Veep.
Senator John Kasich/Senator Marco Rubio (“Official” Republican) Doing solidly with the GOP heartland but just doesn’t have the populist swell behind him. With the left getting their shit together its unlikely a repeat of 2016 where people settled for President Jeb over Trump. Still A probable solid third place.
State Congressman Dario Hunter/Sedinam Moyowasifza-Curry (Official Green) (“Not Warren” DSA): Have even less chance of getting into round 2 than usual with a lot of Greens backing Warren.
Businessman Howard Schultz/Darcy Richardson (Reform) Oh look Reform are running another billionaire. That went so well last time
Businessman Andrew Yang (Yang for America)/: Senator Warren’s carbon rebate is NOT UBI! I repeat, NOT! Will do okay. Like Bloomberg in 2016. Newly minted Centrist vehicles never do that well.
Congressman Justin Amash/State Congresswoman Jo Joregensen (Libertarian) Ha, good luck guys. Weirdly Yang is taking a lot of their attention
THIS SECTION LEFT BLANK FOR THE LATE LYNDON LAROUCHE
Augustus Sol Invictus/Lauren Southern (America First) For when Donald Trump isn’t enough of an asshole.
Vermin Supreme/Wavy Gravy (Make America Fun Again): Yeah. still here, who knew.
The party political Rundown. October 2020
Presidential Candidates
Senator Elizabeth Warren/Senator Tammy Duckworth (Democrat) (Official DSA) (Congressional African American) (Raza Unida) (Vermont Progressive) (Working Families) ( DFL): Am I totally in the niche of a candidate endorsed by both the Democrats and the DSA? Yes. Am I smiling far too much at the DSA and the Democrats having to finally share a stage after Dems spurning Gravel in 08 (as an Indy, I know) and Bernie in 12 and 16? Also yes. Small chance she straight up wins the first round. Almost certain to get through to the second round . Could theoretically get a Dem-DSA-etc-etc Govt in congress too. Will this finally reform Congress? who Knows
Businessman Donald Trump/Senator Joni Ernst (Make America Great Again) (“Trump” Republicans) (Constitution) (Independence) (American) Diiiiiiicks he’s still the favourite to join Warren in the second round. Second times a charm. Whether a Trump Presidency would translate into a MAGA majority in the lower House is another matter given the party is just an ego vehicle for him. Will the GOP work with him? On some things, sure. Also notable that he's spurned Mike Pence over serving as Jeb's Veep.
Senator John Kasich/Senator Marco Rubio (“Official” Republican) Doing solidly with the GOP heartland but just doesn’t have the populist swell behind him. With the left getting their shit together its unlikely a repeat of 2016 where people settled for President Jeb over Trump. Still A probable solid third place.
State Congressman Dario Hunter/Sedinam Moyowasifza-Curry (Official Green) (“Not Warren” DSA): Have even less chance of getting into round 2 than usual with a lot of Greens backing Warren.
Businessman Howard Schultz/Darcy Richardson (Reform) Oh look Reform are running another billionaire. That went so well last time
Businessman Andrew Yang (Yang for America)/: Senator Warren’s carbon rebate is NOT UBI! I repeat, NOT! Will do okay. Like Bloomberg in 2016. Newly minted Centrist vehicles never do that well.
Congressman Justin Amash/State Congresswoman Jo Joregensen (Libertarian) Ha, good luck guys. Weirdly Yang is taking a lot of their attention
THIS SECTION LEFT BLANK FOR THE LATE LYNDON LAROUCHE
Augustus Sol Invictus/Lauren Southern (America First) For when Donald Trump isn’t enough of an asshole.
Vermin Supreme/Wavy Gravy (Make America Fun Again): Yeah. still here, who knew.
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Do folks want me to do a follow up for the 2022 mid terms
I can't quite be bothered to work out from Bayh-Celler to 2020. It's still dem and GOP presidents onwards but with higher profiles for minor parties. Some cooperation between parties etc. The odd third party here and there in both houses. Bernie is possibly an explicitly DSA Senator
I’d personally love to see it. I’m presuming congress is still elected through FPTP?
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At the point of the 2020 Presidential election it is yeah. Senate is same too. Not convinced the states would ratify any change proposed by congress though. Hmm
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Actually Anyone I could pester about the next part of this? @rosa ? @Catalunya ?
Steve Brinson
The possum is not OK. Neither are we.
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I think some more parties, or at least labels, you'd be likely to see are centrist parties (maybe a surviving Reform Party or two, or something along the lines of Americans Elect? Certainly there's enough discourse demand to generate one even in excess of its actual voters) and potentially formalized parties/endorsers for specific minority groups - especially on the local level, I think the Congressional Black Caucus would find it useful to be able to give a "Freedom Democratic" or whatever label to its preferred candidates.