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Lilitou's Liminal Letterbox

for some reason had the urge to make a yorkshire labour logo, in the style of the new scottish labour logo, using a similar idea to the WY mayor authority logo (e.i. a rose made out of the counties). not sure how i feel about the way it turned out, but oh well


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I just saw @Turquoise Blue's "British USSR flag", and I raise them my "Union of Socialist Yorkshire Council Republics" flag that I've for some reason kept on my PC since it's unholy creation in 2015 despite rebuilds and hard drive changes!

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A White Rose On The Red Flag

Chairs of the Sheffield Council of Workers' Deputies

1917-1918: Herbert Smith (Independent Labour)
1917 def: George Fletcher (Labour), Gertrude Wilkinson (Workers' Suffrage), Alf Barton (British Socialist), Arthur Ponsonby (Anti-War Liberal)
1918-1920: Sylvia Pankhurst (Workers' Suffrage)
1918 def: Herbert Smith (Independent Labour), Alf Barton (British Socialist), Arthur Ponsonby (Anti-War Liberal), Cecil Wilson (Labour)
1920-1920: J. T. Murphy (British Socialist)
April 1920 def: Sylvia Pankhurst (Workers' Suffrage), Arthur Ponsonby (Anti-War Liberal)
1920-1924: Sylvia Pankhurst (Workers' Suffrage)
October 1920 def: Edward Hough (Independent Labour), J. T. Murphy (British Socialist), Arthur Ponsonby (Anti-War Liberal), Cecil Wilson (Labour)
 
I've just remembered that this map still exists on my hard drive. I imagine many are annoyed with it. Bite me!

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No but really it's deeply terrible and I'm not sure what I was thinking with regards to most of it.
I do fucking love that Lincolnshire gets to exist but Nottinghamshire is split between that and North Midlands which sounds like the name of a lazy fantasy setting.
 
And here's the full election map in case people were interested!

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Going back to this, what system do you think they replace FPTP with? Ive done a few lists/TLs set 2017 onwards where the Lib Dems /Greens etc force electoral reform and its variously been PR, STV or AMS?

and if so do you think this fractures /combined any parties? or do you just think it empowers Brexit, Lib Dems and others?

and third question. How do you think the second referendum goes?
 
Going back to this, what system do you think they replace FPTP with? Ive done a few lists/TLs set 2017 onwards where the Lib Dems /Greens etc force electoral reform and its variously been PR, STV or AMS?

and if so do you think this fractures /combined any parties? or do you just think it empowers Brexit, Lib Dems and others?

and third question. How do you think the second referendum goes?

I'm a pretty firm believer that any future UK PR is going to use AMS. It's already established in two of the four nations which gives it a big leg up in terms of winning the argument; we can consider it's use in Scotland and Wales as a successful field test, essentially. Plus, it maintains the constituency link which is always going to be a factor as far as I'm concerned. Full list-PR isn't going to happen because there's no incentive from any parties in power to get it there; even the Lib Dems or Greens would in my opinion prefer something that is less proportional, because it's in that environment that they'd thrive the most.

The Lib Dems and Greens very quickly become kingmakers. I don't think you'd see a full Labour split, but I do think you'd eventually see a lot of the more careerist centrist MPs flocking to the Lib Dems, and a lot of the hard left breaking off into a splinter (their effectiveness, though, I think would be dubious). Mostly, though, I think you'd have a surprising number of Labour and Conservative MPs and members sticking with their party even if they're outside it's mainstream; party tribalism is still a strong factor. The Brexit Party would be fleeting, doubly so if it ever gets near power. It's a one-man band with a single issue; it just has no staying power after that man gets bored or after that issue gets sorted, as we've seen with Reform UK after Brexit is done and with UKIP after Farage left. It's only chance really is to become the hard right machine, and I'm not sure if it can do that better than a high-profile Tory splinter can do. The SNP in my opinion also actually get taken down a peg; FPTP is a big reason they're so relevant to Westminster politics.

I don't think I ever considered the second referendum fully, and it's outcome depends on the exact nature of it; for example, if it's Remain vs Leave again or if it's the more Labour-style Remain vs No Deal vs Our Deal. With hindsight I might guess that it winds up as a close victory for Remain; moreso if it's a three-way referendum.
 
The feminine urge to write a TL where Cripps supplants Churchill as Conservative leader.

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Staffling the Deck

1940-1942 Winston Churchill (Conservative/National Government)
1942-1946 Stafford Cripps (Independent/National Government)
1946-1951 Stafford Cripps (Unity)
1946 (Coalition with Labour) def: Viscount Halifax (Conservative), Clement Attlee (Labour), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Ernest Brown (National Liberal)
1948 (Majority) def: Viscount Halifax (Conservative), Clement Attlee (Labour), Clement Davies (Liberal), Ernest Brown (National Liberal)

1951-1952 George D.H. Cole (Unity)
1952-1956 Anthony Eden (Conservative)
1952 (Majority) def: Herbert Morrison (Labour), George D.H. Cole (Unity), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1956-1957 Harold Macmillan (Conservative)
1957-1963 Hugh Gaitskell (Unity)
1957 (Coalition with Labour) def: Harold Macmillan (Conservative), Aneurin Bevan (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1961 (Coalition with Liberal) def: Reginald Maudling (Conservative), Aneurin Bevan (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
 
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I've just got into Bloodhunt, and now I want to make a World of Darkness alt hist oops
 
In honour of Doncaster being made a city, I have destroyed it. Long live Prezzagrad!

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2011-2015: John Leech (Liberal Democrats)
2011 def: Andy Burnham (Labour), Andrew Carter (Conservative), Derek Hatton (Green Left), Keith Wakefield (Yorkshire First), Chris Packham (Save Our Green Belt Independent)

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I never shared this fucking thing outside of the PMQs thread, so figured why not.

Enjoy Putinist Britain, entirely based on a off-hand comment about how the "British Labour Liberal Democratic Party" sounded like a bonkers party name.

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I never shared this fucking thing outside of the PMQs thread, so figured why not.

Enjoy Putinist Britain, entirely based on a off-hand comment about how the "British Labour Liberal Democratic Party" sounded like a bonkers party name.

For Navalny, you’d need a (arguably) former nationalist who suddenly got recast as the saviour of modern Britain and really doesn’t like talking about his former nationalism or bigotry. Hm.
 
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