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[Time Enough]

Secretary of State for Culture and Communications and Minister for the Olympics: The Rt. Hon. David Prescott, MP

The most cursed.

 

[Callan]

Retcon of the series:

Leaders of the Opposition, 1970-

1970-1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1974-1978: Denis Healey (Labour)
1978-1980: Edward Heath (Conservative)
1980-1983: Geoffrey Rippon (Conservative)
1983-1984: Denis Healey (Labour)
1974-1987: Shirley Williams (Labour)
1987-1995: Jack Straw (Labour)
1995-1999: Paddy Ashdown (Labour)
1999-2001: Lynda Chalker (Conservative)
2001-2003: Peter Lilley (Conservative)
2003-2006: Francis Maude (Conservative)
2006-2011: John Bercow (Conservative)
2011-2012: Tim Collins (Conservative)
2012-2013: Annabel Goldie (Conservative)
2013-2015: Tom Newton Dunn (Conservative)
2015: John Denham (Labour)
2015-2018: Matt Carter (Labour)
2018-2022: Sarah Smith (Labour)
2022: Mel Stride (Conservative)
2022-: Priti Patel (Conservative)

 

[Radac]

Retcon of the series:

Leaders of the Opposition, 1970-

1970-1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1974-1978: Denis Healey (Labour)
1978-1980: Edward Heath (Conservative)
1980-1983: Geoffrey Rippon (Conservative)
1983-1984: Denis Healey (Labour)
1974-1987: Shirley Williams (Labour)
1987-1995: Jack Straw (Labour)
1995-1999: Paddy Ashdown (Labour)
1999-2001: Lynda Chalker (Conservative)
2001-2003: Peter Lilley (Conservative)
2003-2006: Francis Maude (Conservative)
2006-2011: John Bercow (Conservative)
2011-2012: Tim Collins (Conservative)
2012-2013: Annabel Goldie (Conservative)
2013-2015: Tom Newton Dunn (Conservative)
2015: John Denham (Labour)
2015-2018: Matt Carter (Labour)
2018-2022: Sarah Smith (Labour)
2022: Mel Stride (Conservative)
2022-: Priti Patel (Conservative)

I kind of want to see Pritis shadow cabinet now

 

[Callan]

I kind of want to see Pritis shadow cabinet now

As you wish!

(The Shadow Cabinet, as composed under the Leader of the Opposition, The Rt. Hon. Priti Patel, MP, November 2022)

Leader of His Majesty’s Most Loyal Opposition and Leader of the Conservative Party - The Rt. Hon. Priti Patel, MP
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer - The Rt. Hon. Nick Timothy, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for the Home Department - The Rt. Hon. Stephen Woolfe, QC, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs - The Rt. Hon. Damian Hinds, QC, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Defence - The Rt. Hon. Sir Alex Cole Hamilton, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Justice - Katharine Birbalsingh, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport - Neil O'Brien, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Education - The Rt. Hon. Hugo Rifkind, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Health - Donna Jones, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Industry and President of the Board of Trade - The Rt. Hon. Mel Stride, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Agriculture, Food and Fisheries - The Rt. Hon. Syed Kamall, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Housing, Local Government and the Regions - The Rt. Hon. Hugh Pym, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Employment and Social Security - Chris Skidmore, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Culture and Communications and Shadow Minister for the Olympics - The Rt. Hon. Robbie Gibb, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment, Energy and Climate Change and Shadow Secretary of State for Wales - The Rt. Hon. Nick Ramsay, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for International Development and Co-operation and Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland - The Rt. Hon. Miles Briggs, MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland - Stephen Parkinson, MP
Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury - Steve Barclay, MP
Conservative Chief Whip - The Rt. Hon. Andrea Leadsom, MP
Shadow Leader of the House of Commons and Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster - The Rt. Hon. Ed Vaizey, MP
Chairman of the Conservative Party - The Rt. Hon. Theresa Villiers, MP
Shadow Leader of the House of Peers and Conservative Leader in the House of Peers - The Rt. Hon. Theresa May, MHP


(The Cabinet, as composed under the Ministry of The Rt. Hon. Tom Newton Dunn, MP, October 2019)

Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury, Minister for the Civil Service and Leader of the Conservative Party - The Rt. Hon. Tom Newton Dunn, MP
Deputy Prime Minister and Secretary of State for the Home Department - The Rt. Hon. Mark Clarke, MP
Chancellor of the Exchequer and Second Lord of the Treasury - The Rt. Hon. Phillippa Stroud, MP
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs - The Rt. Hon. Ian Duncan, MP
Secretary of State for Defence - The Rt. Hon. Martin Callanan, MP
Secretary of State for Justice and Lord Chancellor - The Rt. Hon. Steven Woolfe, QC, MP
Secretary of State for Transport - The Rt. Hon. Robbie Gibb, MP
Secretary of State for Education - The Rt. Hon. Theresa Villiers, MP
Secretary of State for Health - The Rt. Hon. Ed Vaizey, MP
Secretary of State for Business and Industry, President of the Board of Trade and Secretary of State for Scotland - The Rt. Hon. Alex Cole Hamilton, MP
Secretary of State for the Environment, Energy and Climate Change - The Rt. Hon. Tariq Ahmad, MP
Secretary of State for Agriculture, Food and Fisheries and Secretary of State for Wales: The Rt. Hon. Nick Ramsay, MP
Secretary of State for Social Security - The Rt. Hon. Damian Hinds, MP
Secretary of State for Housing, Local Government and the Regions - The Rt. Hon. Hugo Rifkind, MP
Secretary of State for Employment - The Rt. Hon. Priti Patel, MP
Secretary of State for Culture and Communications and Minister for the Olympics - The Rt. Hon. Tina Stowell, MP
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Chairman of the Conservative Party - The Rt. Hon. Mel Stride, MP
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland - The Rt. Hon. Ed Davey, MP
Chief Secretary to the Treasury - The Rt. Hon. Syed Kamall, MP
Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury and Conservative Chief Whip - The Rt. Hon. Nick Herbert, MP
Leader of the House of Peers and Lord President of the Council - The Rt. Hon. Peta Buscombe, MHP

 

[Bolt451]

Shadow Leader of the House of Peers and Conservative Leader in the House of Peers - The Rt. Hon. Theresa May, MHP

Nice touch on lords reform

 

[Comisario]

Put the MHPs in HMP, that's what I say!

 

[Callan]

Nice touch on lords reform

Put the MHPs in HMP, that's what I say!

The House of Peers is the upper house of the United Kingdom. Membership is by appointment or official function. Like the House of Commons, it meets in the Palace of Westminster in London, England.

The House of Peers holds the government to account by scrutinising bills, alongside the House of Commons. Peers regularly review and amend bills before they reach Royal Assent, seeking agreement with the House of Commons on the final text (also known as 'ping pong'). While it is unable to prevent bills passing into law, except in certain limited circumstances, it can delay bills and force the Commons to reconsider their decisions. In this capacity, the House of Peers, being independent of the electoral process, acts as a check on the House of Commons. While members of the Peers may also take on roles as government ministers, high-ranking officials such as cabinet ministers are usually drawn from the Commons. The House of Peers does not control the term of the prime minister or of the government. Only the lower house may force the prime minister to resign or call elections.

314 Peers are chosen by appointment by the monarch upon recommendation from the Peers Appointments Commission, made up of fifteen members. Three are appointed from the government, three from the official opposition, three nominated from smaller parties, three independents and three nominated by crossbenchers. These Peers represent regions of equal size and serve single terms of fifteen years. These appointed Peers are always nominated as part of the Monarch's New Years' Honours; newly appointed Peers are sworn into office once a year in January.

In addition, 20 Peers are appointed by the Prime Minister at the beginning of a new parliament to serve for the duration of the parliamentary term. These nominations allow the government to reach a majority in the House of Peers, for the appointment of Independent members to represent particular interests and for individuals with specialized experience and expertise to serve as government ministers. During the 2012-2015 Labour-Green Coalition Government, 6 six of the so called "Ministerial Peers" came from the Greens, to allow the smaller party to achieve greater parliamentary representation.

Finally there are 16 Church of England bishops composing the Peers Spiritual. These peers serve as ex-officio members of the house due to their position in the State Church, and were grandfathered in from the preceding House of Lords.

The House of Peers was created in 2001 as part of the Ashdown Government's Representation of the People Act, replacing the House of Lords, which whose membership was composed of a mixture of appointed and hereditary peers. There was no fixed number of peers and by the turn of the Millennium the house had become one of the largest legislatures in the world by size. Upon abolition, initial membership of the new House of Peers was chosen by an electoral college of the soon-to-be abolished House of Lords. These initial peers are grandfathered in with indefinite terms with a mandatory retirement age of 75.

A plurality of the House of Peers are independent Crossbenchers and even partisan members of the House of Peers tend to act with greater independence than their elected counterparts.

 

[Callan]

The Union of the Right, (German: Union der Rechten) was a conservative political party in Germany, which dominated German politics between the Eastern and Western Wars. The Union was originally formed as a loose union of conservative and pro-Kaiser political parties in 1939 in response to the Charlottenberg crisis and the resultant formation of an SPD government, and merged formally into a broad right-wing party five years later. For the next forty-six years, the UdR dominated German politics alongside the SPD, serving as the primary vehicle for German conservatives and business interests, usually governing in conjunction with regional parties and the then-smaller Zentrum Party.

The party either led or was the largest coalition partner in three terms of government, from 1947 to 1955, from 1964 to 1970 and from 1977 to 1990. In government the party overseaw significant constitutional reforms, the independence of almost the entire German Kolonialreich, economic liberalisation and German participation in the 1985-1988 Western War. The economic and political crises in the aftermath of the conflict, facing backlash from both nationalists and liberals due to postwar authoritarianism and disarmament, and the party suffered a heavy defeat in the 1990 elections.

The party essentially collapsed after its 1990 defeat. Through the 1990s the majority of its voters and legislators defected to other right-wing parties, most notably the nationalist ReichsPartei and the once-marginal Zentrum, which by the turn of the century had emerged as the largest centre-right movement in Germany.

The UdR was left with a relatively liberal core of support and activists, but a deeply tarnished brand and a collapsed political organisation that was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1998. Subsequently, the UdR voted to dissolve, and formed the nucleus of the new National Liberals and Conservatives, founded the day after the Union of the Right formally ceased to exist.

The National Liberals and Conservatives (generally styled as the Nationals in English or National in German) are a centre-right party in Germany. The official successor of the once-dominant Union of the Right, the party has governed as junior partners in both right-wing and left-wing coalitions, regularly garnering around 10% of the vote.

The party was founded in June 1998, and in 2000 formally merged with the liberal New Country Movement and the environmentalist Local List. It participated in the first Jacoby Government between 2002 and 2006 alongside the SPD, and since 2008 has been a member of Chancellor Arnold Lasker's right-wing Anbruch Allianz. While the Nationals have an ambivalent relationship with their right-wing nationalist coalition partners the ReichsPartei, they have supported the Lasker government's reductions in non-European immigration, military interventions in Malaya and Tanzania, and expansion of the size and powers of the Verband, despite previously opposing British membership.

The party is currently represented by two ministers in the Lasker Cabinet, Overseas Administration Minister Beatrix Orlow and Infrastructure Minister Marcus Busch. Busch, a long-serving minister and former leader of the party, has been credited for pushing an environmentalist agenda within the Lasker government, presiding over the expansion of medically-assisted dying and the phasing out of coal-fired power stations.

 

[Callan]

Absolutely zero to this list beyond my love of roman à clef names.

2019-2022: Reuben Smith (Conservative)
2019: Ronnie Dearden (Labour), Rachel Fox (SNP), Jackie Colwyn (Liberal Democrat)
2022: Beth Taggart (Conservative)
2022-2024: Vinay Prashad (Conservative)
2024-: Clement Harding (Labour)
2024: Vinay Prashad (Conservative), Kausar Raza (SNP), Mark Peters (Liberal Democrat)

 

[Beata Beatrix]

VINAY PRASHAD IS REALLY GOOD FUCK

 

[Callan]

1964-1969: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1969-1973: Roy Jenkins (Labour)
1973-1975: Peter Shore (Labour)
1975-1982: Edward Du Cann (Conservative)
1982-1989: Edmund Dell (Labour)
1989-2000: Ian Lang (Labour)
2000-: Clare Short (Labour)

 

[Time Enough]

1964-1969: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1969-1973: Roy Jenkins (Labour)
1973-1975: Peter Shore (Labour)
1975-1982: Edward Du Cann (Conservative)
1982-1989: Edmund Dell (Labour)
1989-2000: Ian Lang (Labour)
2000-: Clare Short (Labour)

This has mild Kiwi politics to it I must say. 12 years of Lang followed Short is the icing on the cake here.

 

[Yokai Man]

1964-1969: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1969-1973: Roy Jenkins (Labour)
1973-1975: Peter Shore (Labour)
1975-1982: Edward Du Cann (Conservative)
1982-1989: Edmund Dell (Labour)
1989-2000: Ian Lang (Labour)
2000-: Clare Short (Labour)

 

[Callan]

Based on a discussion has on last Friday's SLP Zoom about the ramifications of the Planned Parenthood v. Casey case going the other way.

1993-2001: Bill Clinton / Nancy Pelosi (Democratic)
1992: George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican)
1996: Bob Dole / William J. Bennett (Republican), Lowell Weicker / Tim Penny (Moderate)
2001-2009: Nancy Pelosi / David Bonior (Democratic)
2000: Jeb Bush / Christine Todd Whitman (Republican), Paul Weyrich / Helen Chenoweth (Independent)
2004: Dan Lungren / Mike Huckabee (Republican)
2009-: Betsy DeVos / Jim Webb (Republican)
2008: Alex Penelas / Tom Daschle (Democratic)
2012: Andrew Cuomo / Cecile Richards (Democratic)

 

[Callan]

- Based on the OTL experiences of the Clarence Thomas confirmation and the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case last year, there would be a significant and immediate backlash, from feminists, liberals and female voters in general as a rollback of women's rights very abruptly stops being an abstract political prospect. The 1990s also are more socially progressive, as activist movements (especially feminist activism) gets re-ignited with actual stakes.
- This would play out differently however. There are far fewer extreme anti-abortion laws on the books of state governments that immediately come into effect, the pro-life movement is less violent and hardline as OTL's 2023, the lack of the internet means political backlashes happen slower, and the Democrats have a significant pro-life contingent while the Republicans still have a significant pro-choice contingent.
- This backlash is especially difficult for Bill Clinton. Bob Casey, of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, was OTL one of his biggest supporters during the primaries. There would be a huge internal backlash within the party against Clinton from liberals and feminists (and against many prominent establishment Dems like Biden and Ted Kennedy who historically made a lot of pro-life noises), plunging the party into infighting just before the national convention, and just before Clinton is about to choose a running mate.
- The Clinton campaign is under enormous pressure, and would need to choose a liberal running mate. Relatively conservative Democrats like Al Gore would be off the table, now that brand of moderation is an internal liability. There was a bona-fide liberal on his short-list OTL - Harris Wofford - but here he would be tarnished by his closeness to Casey. There's be a huge amount of pressure to pick not just a liberal but a woman. All sorts of names would be bandied about, but the only woman who would really fit what they needed - legislative experience, establishment creds, impeccable Liberal record - is California Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
- Clinton I think wins by more than OTL here, partly because of the OTL economic factors, partly because I think Ross Perot stays out in a more socially polarised election cycle, partly because a lot of GOP moderates would be very unhappy with Bush, and partly because abortion rights (and womens' rights in general) are actually on the ballot ITTL.

- The Clinton admin likely goes rather differently - a much more overt political scrapper as vice president, Hillary no longer the most important woman in the administration, social issues more prominent. I suspect that they score some more legislative victories than OTL - maybe they do pass a healthcare reform bill - but abortion rights legislation would be difficult to pass given the strongly conservative and anti-abortion contingent that exists in the Democrats in this period.
- The infighting in the Republicans, a backlash from their moderates and the short-circuiting of the Christian Right of actually achieving their aims (a bit too early for them to pivot to opposing gay rights), likely butterflies away 1994's Gingrich Revolution. They still might take control of Congress, but by a lot less, and with different leadership - and likely lose those chambers in 1996.
- There is no impeachment, partly because of the weaker state of congressional Republicans, and partly because the butterflies mean that Clinton never meets Monica Lewinksy. With his being succeeded by the first female president, Hillary Clinton never goes into electoral politics, instead becoming a prominent activist for womens' rights and healthcare reform.
- The Republicans are riven with infighting for nearly two decades. The rollback of abortion rights is seen to have cost them the election, but some of the most powerful forces within the party want the party to explicitly run on abolishing such rights; a millstone round the party's neck. Successive nominees try and fail to thread that needle, but with accomplished Democratic presidencies, social issues actually being on the ballot and the Christian right becoming more extreme they cannot muster effective coalitions.
- The Pelosi Administration passes legislation federally codifying abortion rights, legitimised by their retaken Supreme Court majority. There is a renewed, and unsuccessful effort to revive the Equal Rights Amendment.
- This in turn takes the issue of the table politically , which in turn which allows a slightly broader church of a Republican Party - still with an influential pro-choice contingent - to eventually retake the White House from an exhausted Democratic Party.

 

[AceofShovels]

- Based on the OTL experiences of the Clarence Thomas confirmation and the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case last year, there would be a significant and immediate backlash, from feminists, liberals and female voters in general as a rollback of women's rights very abruptly stops being an abstract political prospect. The 1990s also are more socially progressive, as activist movements (especially feminist activism) gets re-ignited with actual stakes.
- This would play out differently however. There are far fewer extreme anti-abortion laws on the books of state governments that immediately come into effect, the pro-life movement is less violent and hardline as OTL's 2023, the lack of the internet means political backlashes happen slower, and the Democrats have a significant pro-life contingent while the Republicans still have a significant pro-choice contingent.
- This backlash is especially difficult for Bill Clinton. Bob Casey, of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, was OTL one of his biggest supporters during the primaries. There would be a huge internal backlash within the party against Clinton from liberals and feminists (and against many prominent establishment Dems like Biden and Ted Kennedy who historically made a lot of pro-life noises), plunging the party into infighting just before the national convention, and just before Clinton is about to choose a running mate.
- The Clinton campaign is under enormous pressure, and would need to choose a liberal running mate. Relatively conservative Democrats like Al Gore would be off the table, now that brand of moderation is an internal liability. There was a bona-fide liberal on his short-list OTL - Harris Wofford - but here he would be tarnished by his closeness to Casey. There's be a huge amount of pressure to pick not just a liberal but a woman. All sorts of names would be bandied about, but the only woman who would really fit what they needed - legislative experience, establishment creds, impeccable Liberal record - is California Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
- Clinton I think wins by more than OTL here, partly because of the OTL economic factors, partly because I think Ross Perot stays out in a more socially polarised election cycle, partly because a lot of GOP moderates would be very unhappy with Bush, and partly because abortion rights (and womens' rights in general) are actually on the ballot ITTL.

- The Clinton admin likely goes rather differently - a much more overt political scrapper as vice president, Hillary no longer the most important woman in the administration, social issues more prominent. I suspect that they score some more legislative victories than OTL - maybe they do pass a healthcare reform bill - but abortion rights legislation would be difficult to pass given the strongly conservative and anti-abortion contingent that exists in the Democrats in this period.
- The infighting in the Republicans, a backlash from their moderates and the short-circuiting of the Christian Right of actually achieving their aims (a bit too early for them to pivot to opposing gay rights), likely butterflies away 1994's Gingrich Revolution. They still might take control of Congress, but by a lot less, and with different leadership - and likely lose those chambers in 1996.
- There is no impeachment, partly because of the weaker state of congressional Republicans, and partly because the butterflies mean that Clinton never meets Monica Lewinksy. With his being succeeded by the first female president, Hillary Clinton never goes into electoral politics, instead becoming a prominent activist for womens' rights and healthcare reform.
- The Republicans are riven with infighting for nearly two decades. The rollback of abortion rights is seen to have cost them the election, but some of the most powerful forces within the party want the party to explicitly run on abolishing such rights; a millstone round the party's neck. Successive nominees try and fail to thread that needle, but with accomplished Democratic presidencies, social issues actually being on the ballot and the Christian right becoming more extreme they cannot muster effective coalitions.
- The Pelosi Administration passes legislation federally codifying abortion rights, legitimised by their retaken Supreme Court majority. There is a renewed, and unsuccessful effort to revive the Equal Rights Amendment.
- This in turn takes the issue of the table politically , which in turn which allows a slightly broader church of a Republican Party - still with an influential pro-choice contingent - to eventually retake the White House from an exhausted Democratic Party.

Very nice. I will say though, Perot IRL was very much pro-choice in ‘92 so I’m not sure about your rationale for having him stay out.

 

[Callan]

Very nice. I will say though, Perot IRL was very much pro-choice in ‘92 so I’m not sure about your rationale for having him stay out.

My logic is that Perot OTL ran on a whim, withdrew on a whim, and then got back into the race on another whim and that extra political turmoil and a suddenly much more polarized environment would be enough for his third whim to go the other way.

 

[AceofShovels]

My logic is that Perot OTL ran on a whim, withdrew on a whim, and then got back into the race on another whim and that extra political turmoil and a suddenly much more polarized environment would be enough for his third whim to go the other way.

Fair enough I guess

 

[Callan]

Just a random idea...

1969-1973: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)
1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1973-1975: Richard Nixon / John Connally (Republican)
1972: George Wallace / Ezra Taft Benson (American Independent), Edmund Muskie / Terry Sanford (Democratic)
1975: John Connally / vacant (Republican)
1975-1977: John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican)
1977-: Jerry Brown / Milton Shapp (Democratic)
1976: Ronald Reagan / Eliot Richardson (Republican)

 

[Callan]

1969-1973: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
1968: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1972: George Wallace / Robert Taft Jr. (Republican), Jacob Javits / Pete McCloskey (Liberal)
1973-1974: Edmund Muskie / vacant (Democratic)
1974-1977: Edmund Muskie / Milton Shapp (Democratic)
1977-: Edward Gurney / Charles Percy (Republican)
1976: Edmund Muskie / Milton Shapp (Democratic)