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The Moon Is Red: Apple TV does AH.

Archibald

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#21
And I love the implication that only a bloody-minded paranoiac like Nixon would stick with the program.
Spot on.

At NASAspaceflight.com forum they are discussing the series, too. I gave them a good laugh writting this about Nixon

And Nixon is a godsend of a real life character for any aspiring script writer. There were things that man was and things he did, it would be hard to invent fiction good enough to beat them.
From Watergate to cottage cheese with ketchup, the rants, the slurs, the ramping paranoia... vietnam... no really the guy was better than fiction even just standing still and saying nothing. His face and his attitude spoke volume.

Just ask Matt Groening: the Simpsons and of course Futurama had so much love for Tricky Dick. He nailed the man flaws and antics to near perfection.
"ah, how stupid, what a McGovern I have been on that case !" ROTFL.
Thanks to AH.com, incidentally, to teach me about Nixon antics. There are Nixon TLs out there, that are just delightful.

In my space TL I'm trying to exploit that "Nixon vibe", too, although being non-american it is more difficult.
 

Archibald

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#22
AFAIK von Braun didn't lived long enough for his past to become an issue because he died in 1977 and the controversy erupted in the 80's.
In fact here is the OTL controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rudolph

It is from the Arthur Rudolph OTL case that "For all mankind" got that Von Braun idea. It erupts in 1969 rather than 1984.
so it is Tricky Dick that throw von Braun under a (nazi) bus because he failed the Moon landing ? geez, what a jerk !

And Stephen Baxter did the exact same thing in Voyage, except with a fictional character called Hans Udet (not too subtle, Ernst Udet was a WWI ace that compromised himself with Hitler LW before suiciding in 1941).

For the record many at NASA were all too aware of Paperclip and that Marshall SFC, Alabama, was a hotbed of former nazi german rocket scientists. Yet nobody really cared about starting a witch hunt over the past - that was really the dominant attitude in the 50's, the 60's, the 70's.

And even more startling was the case of George M. Low, one of the brightest and boldest men out there who ended as NASA number 2 in the 70's.
He was an Austrian jewish refugee from the 30's having fled Anschluss with his family. He knew what von Braun had been but it was never an issue between them - even when they were both at NASA HQ circa 1970, Von Braun ranking number 4 in the hierarchy.
 
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SenatorChickpea

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#23
I think this is a fine model for how to do AH- stay grounded in character, don't get bogged down in technical details, and let big changes get implied through background noise.

I also think it's clever how they seem to be quietly shifting the focus of the storytelling from episode to episode. Episode One is 'The Right Stuff goes wrong,' with square-jawed astronauts and steely-eyed missile men. Episode two uses Von Braun to break down some of the comforting nostalgia that the show at first seems to be appealing to. In Episode Three a new group of characters emerge and we get a feminist story complete with implications of a stronger movement to the ERA.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar with race and racism later.

This is good solid stuff. Not truly great TV yet, but it's got a very promising grasp of the fundamentals.