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SLP 'Telephone' Maps and Graphics Game 2

Said bin Sultan, the Omani Sultan who moved the Capital of his Empire from Muscat to Zanzibar in Tanzania had huge ambitions in Africa. He attempted to expand further into Kenya and proposed marriage to Ranavalona I of Madagascar with the aim of the two realms forming a military and state union. None of it ever really came to anything but given the small number and OTL fate of the Zanzibari elite, it occurred to me that if was more successful, his successors would find it even harder to hold onto power and their realm together. So I made this.

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And sent it to @kratostatic.
 
I received the above and after a bit of research on the named individuals found out that Monja Jaona was indeed a Madgascan seperatist and socialist, and that Tawney was an English socialist thinker. I thought that if he's being named in propoganda in (what I took to be) a former colony he's probably fairly influential and I decided that in this world there would be a fairly leftist regime in the UK which was not much copied in the colonies. I decided that this would likely be a repeated pattern across the world and came up with a few similar figures. As I had a non-standard format I decided to carry on in a similar way.

So anyway, I ended up making the following:

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And sent it to @Meadow

If I do another one of these I think I'll try to take a bit less of a kitchen sink approach but given this is I think my first posted Content ever I'm pretty happy.
 
I received the above and after a bit of research on the named individuals found out that Monja Jaona was indeed a Madgascan seperatist and socialist, and that Tawney was an English socialist thinker. I thought that if he's being named in propoganda in (what I took to be) a former colony he's probably fairly influential and I decided that in this world there would be a fairly leftist regime in the UK which was not much copied in the colonies. I decided that this would likely be a repeated pattern across the world and came up with a few similar figures. As I had a non-standard format I decided to carry on in a similar way.

So anyway, I ended up making the following:

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And sent it to @Meadow

If I do another one of these I think I'll try to take a bit less of a kitchen sink approach but given this is I think my first posted Content ever I'm pretty happy.

I love that so much. Great idea, great titles of the lectures. Like you say, ktichen sink but it says a lot which I like.

(And yeah, I was also thinking post british colony, for the record. Some alternate version of the Zanzibar protectorate that basically freezes the social conflicts until independence, as in OTL)
 
okay so mao described as a failed socialist leader probably means KMT china

Tawney College/Crossman Hall means there is Some Leftism happening in the ole' sceptred isle

I liked the idea of making an alt-Olympics poster that very clearly said China Ain't Red, but that seemed a little plain

so, naturally, I decided to deface it with an alt-version of an OTL slogan

so I needed something or someone that would feel strongly about giving a KMT regime in China legitimacy on the world stage in a TL where Britain has gone very, very, Hello My Name Is Michael Foot And I Would Like To Share With You This Most Amazing Enlightened Decolonisation

and who seemed to tilt at all possible windmills when it came to postcolonial foreign policy in britain and is also a racist meme?

that's right

it's ya boy


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and then I sent it to @Makemakean by mistake
 
okay so mao described as a failed socialist leader probably means KMT china

Tawney College/Crossman Hall means there is Some Leftism happening in the ole' sceptred isle

I liked the idea of making an alt-Olympics poster that very clearly said China Ain't Red, but that seemed a little plain

so, naturally, I decided to deface it with an alt-version of an OTL slogan

so I needed something or someone that would feel strongly about giving a KMT regime in China legitimacy on the world stage in a TL where Britain has gone very, very, Hello My Name Is Michael Foot And I Would Like To Share With You This Most Amazing Enlightened Decolonisation

and who seemed to tilt at all possible windmills when it came to postcolonial foreign policy in britain and is also a racist meme?

that's right

it's ya boy


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and then I sent it to @Makemakean by mistake

AND AFTER ALL THIS TIME I CAN PROUDLY POST MY MASTERPIECE!!! :D

Okay, so, what did I know? Well, apparently the Nationalists somehow persevered in the Middle Kingdom, and the Republic of China is no mere island off the coast of Fujian. They’ve also decided to keep Beiping as the name of the city we know as Beijing, and in 1976, there’s an Olympics there. Which “Enoch” is calling for to be boycotted for some reason.

Well, forgive me for being vanilla basic, but I took “Enoch” to be Enoch Powell.

It didn’t seem unreasonable to assume that the KMT is maintaining some sort of shitty dictatorship in China, and seemed reasonable to assume that by 1976, the son of the Generalissimo, Chiang Ching-kuo is in charge.

Well, I’m just going to assume that the setup is similar to when Carter called for the boycott of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow. The Chinese government has done something that is considered beyond the pale, like when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Maybe they’ve invaded Vietnam, or sent in tanks against independence protestors in Tibet, or maybe it’s that border with India spooking up or something.

Enoch Powell, I presumed him to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom at this point, and like Carter vis-a-vis the Soviet Union, so Enoch vis-a-vis the RoC. He has Britain boycott the Olympics, and unlike Carter, he is a bit more successful, getting other nations to follow his lead. Who knows, he might get both Communist Russia and Capitalist America to take his side? The whole thing results in a massive humiliation for Chiang Ching-kuo’s government in Beiping. And, it ends up becoming a huge triumph for Enoch and British soft power that he is abl to pull this off.

Some ‘patriotic’, ‘loyal’, right-wing newspaper like The Sun or The Daily Mail consequently decides to run this cartoon to accompany an article about how ‘Britain is punching above its weight’: Fightin’ Brit Enoch vs. Babyface Chiang.

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...and then I sent it to @Von Callay.
 
AND AFTER ALL THIS TIME I CAN PROUDLY POST MY MASTERPIECE!!! :D

Okay, so, what did I know? Well, apparently the Nationalists somehow persevered in the Middle Kingdom, and the Republic of China is no mere island off the coast of Fujian. They’ve also decided to keep Beiping as the name of the city we know as Beijing, and in 1976, there’s an Olympics there. Which “Enoch” is calling for to be boycotted for some reason.

Well, forgive me for being vanilla basic, but I took “Enoch” to be Enoch Powell.

It didn’t seem unreasonable to assume that the KMT is maintaining some sort of shitty dictatorship in China, and seemed reasonable to assume that by 1976, the son of the Generalissimo, Ching Ching-kuo is in charge.

Well, I’m just going to assume that the setup is similar to when Carter called for the boycott of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow. The Chinese government has done something that is considered beyond the pale, like when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Maybe they’ve invaded Vietnam, or sent in tanks against independence protestors in Tibet, or maybe it’s that border with India spooking up or something.

Enoch Powell, I presumed him to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom at this point, and like Carter vis-a-vis the Soviet Union, so Enoch vis-a-vis the RoC. He has Britain boycott the Olympics, and unlike Carter, he is a bit more successful, getting other nations to follow his lead. Who knows, he might get both Communist Russia and Capitalist America to take his side? The whole thing results in a massive humiliation for Chiang Ching-kuo’s government in Beiping. And, it ends up becoming a huge triumph for Enoch and British soft power that he is abl to pull this off.

Some ‘patriotic’, ‘loyal’, right-wing newspaper like The Sun or The Daily Mail consequently decides to run this cartoon to accompany an article about how ‘Britain is punching above its weight’: Fightin’ Brit Enoch vs. Babyface Chiang.

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...and then I sent it to @Von Callay.
holy fucking shit
 
AND AFTER ALL THIS TIME I CAN PROUDLY POST MY MASTERPIECE!!! :D

Okay, so, what did I know? Well, apparently the Nationalists somehow persevered in the Middle Kingdom, and the Republic of China is no mere island off the coast of Fujian. They’ve also decided to keep Beiping as the name of the city we know as Beijing, and in 1976, there’s an Olympics there. Which “Enoch” is calling for to be boycotted for some reason.

Well, forgive me for being vanilla basic, but I took “Enoch” to be Enoch Powell.

It didn’t seem unreasonable to assume that the KMT is maintaining some sort of shitty dictatorship in China, and seemed reasonable to assume that by 1976, the son of the Generalissimo, Chiang Ching-kuo is in charge.

Well, I’m just going to assume that the setup is similar to when Carter called for the boycott of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow. The Chinese government has done something that is considered beyond the pale, like when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Maybe they’ve invaded Vietnam, or sent in tanks against independence protestors in Tibet, or maybe it’s that border with India spooking up or something.

Enoch Powell, I presumed him to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom at this point, and like Carter vis-a-vis the Soviet Union, so Enoch vis-a-vis the RoC. He has Britain boycott the Olympics, and unlike Carter, he is a bit more successful, getting other nations to follow his lead. Who knows, he might get both Communist Russia and Capitalist America to take his side? The whole thing results in a massive humiliation for Chiang Ching-kuo’s government in Beiping. And, it ends up becoming a huge triumph for Enoch and British soft power that he is abl to pull this off.

Some ‘patriotic’, ‘loyal’, right-wing newspaper like The Sun or The Daily Mail consequently decides to run this cartoon to accompany an article about how ‘Britain is punching above its weight’: Fightin’ Brit Enoch vs. Babyface Chiang.

View attachment 18557

...and then I sent it to @Von Callay.

I knew there was no way I could follow this one with anything remotely as impressive, since I'm not a caricature artist and I was diseased at the time, but I do know how to make wikipedia infoboxes jump through the hoops I demand of them. This one is titled 'Doubt Creeps In'

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Working from the above that Enoch is boxing the Chinese potentate, I set to working out how he could have gotten himself into that position, and did a lot of dumb math on the back of an envelope that I eventually disregarded entirely in favor of arbitrary decision-making (as often happens when I try to make stuff up) that amounted to Conservative loss in 1970 + Powell never shows his hand in 1965, and so is able to storm into power afterwards, take office in say 1973/1974, and then here we are, ten years on, contemplating his succession.

I had a lot of difficulty finding exactly the right picture of Powell to match up with this, I wanted to get the color right essentially, and the number of good pictures of him by year drops off precipitously before this for some reason, and I had to eventually go down to an Enoch Powell-Gore Vidal BBC interview to find just the right facial expression as well.

The 'next election' date suggest Powell may not be long for his office.

And from there to @Electric Sheep
 
AND AFTER ALL THIS TIME I CAN PROUDLY POST MY MASTERPIECE!!! :D

Okay, so, what did I know? Well, apparently the Nationalists somehow persevered in the Middle Kingdom, and the Republic of China is no mere island off the coast of Fujian. They’ve also decided to keep Beiping as the name of the city we know as Beijing, and in 1976, there’s an Olympics there. Which “Enoch” is calling for to be boycotted for some reason.

Well, forgive me for being vanilla basic, but I took “Enoch” to be Enoch Powell.

It didn’t seem unreasonable to assume that the KMT is maintaining some sort of shitty dictatorship in China, and seemed reasonable to assume that by 1976, the son of the Generalissimo, Chiang Ching-kuo is in charge.

Well, I’m just going to assume that the setup is similar to when Carter called for the boycott of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow. The Chinese government has done something that is considered beyond the pale, like when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Maybe they’ve invaded Vietnam, or sent in tanks against independence protestors in Tibet, or maybe it’s that border with India spooking up or something.

Enoch Powell, I presumed him to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom at this point, and like Carter vis-a-vis the Soviet Union, so Enoch vis-a-vis the RoC. He has Britain boycott the Olympics, and unlike Carter, he is a bit more successful, getting other nations to follow his lead. Who knows, he might get both Communist Russia and Capitalist America to take his side? The whole thing results in a massive humiliation for Chiang Ching-kuo’s government in Beiping. And, it ends up becoming a huge triumph for Enoch and British soft power that he is abl to pull this off.

Some ‘patriotic’, ‘loyal’, right-wing newspaper like The Sun or The Daily Mail consequently decides to run this cartoon to accompany an article about how ‘Britain is punching above its weight’: Fightin’ Brit Enoch vs. Babyface Chiang.

View attachment 18557

...and then I sent it to @Von Callay.

That's magnificent Max.
 
I wish the thought process was as thorough as some of the other posters', but here is my entry.

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I decided, as shown by Peter Price's leadership challenge, that there was growing discontent with Powell and his style of governance, and the results of the next leadership election results in a split in the party. The next GE, a hung parliament results in the new NDP being the kingmakers, with the new coalition passing electoral reform. A few years later, a new Christian Democratic Party is formed, potentially over a contentious issue such as abortion. Thanks to the new electoral system they manage to become viable as a political force, and while they never gain mass support they have enough supporters to ensure about 20-30 seats each election.
 
So basically I had a minor political party in the UK, the link to the European People's Party recently selected. It looked like the UK had gone multiparty, and also that Christian Democracy was more of a thing. So I started producing a list of similar parties in other EU countries. Which I then didn't really end up incorporating into the end result as I decided to try a more streamlined design to my usual manner. And so I ended up with this:

And then I sent it on to @Avalanches

EDIT: I've just noticed apparently the graphic started rebelling against my wonton overuse of the exclamation mark.

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So basically I had a minor political party in the UK, the link to the European People's Party recently selected. It looked like the UK had gone multiparty, and also that Christian Democracy was more of a thing. So I started producing a list of similar parties in other EU countries. Which I then didn't really end up incorporating into the end result as I decided to try a more streamlined design to my usual manner. And so I ended up with this:

And then I sent it on to @Avalanches

EDIT: I've just noticed apparently the graphic started rebelling against my wonton overuse of the exclamation mark.

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I'll never quite understand your ability to produce such detailed professional maps in such a short time. I imagine that you've already got countless base maps just laying around from other projects, but... one for every occasion? How is this possible? I was kind dounted last time around because you sent me such an incredibly detailed war map of Communist insurrection in the Rhineland (ironically around Düsseldorf), and I was just sitting there going... how the fuck to do something worthy to follow up on this?!

As for the map... Independent Bavaria, Karelia, etc. Really want to know what the backstory is here.
 
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