Meppo's Electoral Molehill

[Meppo]

notched down a few list concepts

THE HIEROPHANT
— Marriage, alliance, captivity, servitude; by another account, mercy, and goodness; inspiration; the man to whom the Querent has recourse. // Society, good understanding, concord, over kindness, weakness.

1961–1962: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1960 (w. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.): John F. Kennedy / Albert Gore (Democratic), unpledged 'Dixiecrat' electors
○ 1962: Pres. Nixon assassinated by far-right Alabama marine Bruce Oakley
1962–1969: Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican)
1964 (w. Jack Miller): Ralph Yarborough / Otto Kerner Jr. (Democratic), Edwin Walker / I. Beverly Lake (Independent)
1969–1974: Frank G. Clement (Democratic)
1968 (w. Hubert Humphrey): Jack Miller / Jim Rhodes (Republican), J. Bracken Lee / Carroll Gartin (American Patriot), Eugene McCarthy / Benjamin Spock (New)
1972 (w. Hubert Humphrey): John Volpe / Bud Wilkinson (Republican)
○ 1974: Pres. Clement killed in car crash
1974–1977: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1977–19xx: Paul Laxalt (Republican)
1976 (w. Elliot Richardson): Ed Muskie / Reubin Askew (Democratic)

THE MOON
— Hidden enemies, danger, calumny, darkness, terror, deception, occult forces, error. // Instability, inconstancy, silence, lesser degrees of deception and error.

2021–2025: Joe Biden (Democratic)
2020 (w. Kamala Harris): Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican)
2025–2025: Donald Trump (Republican)
2024 (w. Elise Stefanik): Joe Biden / Kamala Harris (Democratic), Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / Jamel Holley (We the People)
○ 2025: Pres. Trump died of food poisoning shortly after mediating Treaty of Kharkiv
2025–2033: Elise Stefanik (Republican)
2028 (w. Markwayne Mullin): Kamala Harris / Chris Murphy (Democratic)
2033–2035: Brandon Johnson (Democratic)
2032 (w. Jason Crow): Markwayne Mullin / Laurie Buckhout (Republican), Justin Amash / S. E. Cupp (Independent)
○ 2035: Pres. Johnson assassinated by far-right radical during visit to Dallas, Texas
2035–20xx: Jason Crow (Democratic)

 

[Meppo]

a rendition of an earlier list, made to look a bit Wolframesque Brinsonian

not sure if I'm entirely happy with having the numbers bolded

1921–1927: Leonard Wood (Republican)
'20 (w. Carmi Thompson): James M. Cox (Democratic)
'24 (w. Carmi Thompson): Homer S. Cummings [repl. Samuel Ralston] (Democratic), Robert M. La Follette Sr. (Progressive)
- '27: Pres. Wood died during brain tumor surgery
1927–1933: Carmi Thompson (Republican)
'28 (w. Hanford MacNider): George H. Dern (Democratic)
1933–1941: Alfred E. Smith (Democratic)
'32 (w. Joseph T. Robinson): Carmi Thompson (Republican), Norman Thomas (Socialist)
'36 (w. Joseph T. Robinson): Herbert Hoover (Republican), Robert M. La Follette Jr. (Progressive)
1941–1946: Floyd Olson (Farmer-Labor)
'40 (w. Bronson Cutting): Charles Lindbergh (Republican), Lewis W. Douglas (Democratic), Huey P. Long (Reform), Dan Moody ("Texas Regular" Democratic)
'44 (w. Bronson Cutting): Bruce F. Barton [repl. Wendell Willkie] (National Union), W. Lee O'Daniel ("Regular" Democratic), Gerald P. Nye (America First)
- '46: Pres. Olson resigned amidst health scare, impeachment proceedings over alleged "collusion" with Minneapolis gangster Kid Cann
1946–1949: Bronson Cutting (Farmer-Labor)
1949–1957: William J. Donovan (Unionist)
'48 (w. Richard Russell Jr.): Bronson Cutting (Farmer-Labor), Raymond L. Haight (Progressive)
'52 (w. Richard Russell Jr.): G. Mennen Williams (Farmer-Labor)
1957–1965: Sid McMath (Farmer-Labor)
'56 (w. Warren Magnuson): John W. Bricker (Unionist)
'60 (w. Warren Magnuson): Charles E. Bohlen (Unionist)
1965–1967: John F. Kennedy (Unionist)
'64 (w. Harry F. Byrd): Warren Magnuson (Farmer-Labor)
- '67: Pres. Kennedy assassinated in New Orleans mob hit
1967–1977: Harry F. Byrd (Unionist)
'68 (w. Jim Rhodes): Richard Nixon (Farmer-Labor), Irwin Suall (Socialist)
'72 (w. Jim Rhodes): Kevin White (Farmer-Labor)
1977–1985: Bronson La Follette (Farmer-Labor)
'76 (w. Frank Church): Jim Rhodes (Unionist)
'80 (w. Frank Church): James E. Carter (Unionist), Larry McDonald (Liberty and Democracy)

 

[Comrade Izaac]

a rendition of an earlier list, made to look a bit Wolframesque Brinsonian

not sure if I'm entirely happy with having the numbers bolded

1921–1927: Leonard Wood (Republican)
'20 (w. Carmi Thompson): James M. Cox (Democratic)
'24 (w. Carmi Thompson): Homer S. Cummings [repl. Samuel Ralston] (Democratic), Robert M. La Follette Sr. (Progressive)
- '27: Pres. Wood died during brain tumor surgery
1927–1933: Carmi Thompson (Republican)
'28 (w. Hanford MacNider): George H. Dern (Democratic)
1933–1941: Alfred E. Smith (Democratic)
'32 (w. Joseph T. Robinson): Carmi Thompson (Republican), Norman Thomas (Socialist)
'36 (w. Joseph T. Robinson): Herbert Hoover (Republican), Robert M. La Follette Jr. (Progressive)
1941–1946: Floyd Olson (Farmer-Labor)
'40 (w. Bronson Cutting): Charles Lindbergh (Republican), Lewis W. Douglas (Democratic), Huey P. Long (Reform), Dan Moody ("Texas Regular" Democratic)
'44 (w. Bronson Cutting): Bruce F. Barton [repl. Wendell Willkie] (National Union), W. Lee O'Daniel ("Regular" Democratic), Gerald P. Nye (America First)
- '46: Pres. Olson resigned amidst health scare, impeachment proceedings over alleged "collusion" with Minneapolis gangster Kid Cann
1946–1949: Bronson Cutting (Farmer-Labor)
1949–1957: Richard E. Byrd (Unionist)
'48 (w. John W. Bricker): Bronson Cutting (Farmer-Labor), Raymond L. Haight (Progressive)
'52 (w. John W. Bricker): G. Mennen Williams (Farmer-Labor)
1957–1965: Sid McMath (Farmer-Labor)
'56 (w. Warren Magnuson): John W. Bricker (Unionist)
'60 (w. Warren Magnuson): Charles E. Bohlen (Unionist)
1965–1967: John F. Kennedy (Unionist)
'64 (w. Harry F. Byrd): Warren Magnuson (Farmer-Labor)
- '67: Pres. Kennedy assassinated in New Orleans mob hit
1967–1977: Harry F. Byrd (Unionist)
'68 (w. Jim Rhodes): Richard Nixon (Farmer-Labor), Irwin Suall (Socialist)
'72 (w. Jim Rhodes): Kevin White (Farmer-Labor)
1977–1985: Bronson La Follette (Farmer-Labor)
'76 (w. Frank Church): Jim Rhodes (Unionist)
'80 (w. Frank Church): James E. Carter (Unionist), Larry McDonald (Liberty and Democracy)

this is sick Mep, do you have any conception of what the electoral map would look like in 1940 compared to 1956 and 1980?

 

[Meppo]

this is sick Mep, do you have any conception of what the electoral map would look like in 1940 compared to 1956 and 1980?

only 1940 and 1980, for the time being

1940:

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fmr. Gov. Floyd Olson of MN / U.S. Sen. Bronson Cutting of NM (Farmer-Labor)
aviator Charles Lindbergh of NJ / Rep. Hamilton Fish III of NY (Republican)
U.S. Amb. to the U.K. Lewis W. Douglas of AZ / fmr. Gov. Paul V. McNutt of IN (Democratic)
U.S. Sen. Huey P. Long of LA / Rep. William Lemke of ND (Reform)
fmr. Gov. Dan Moody of TX / various ("Texas Regular" Democratic)

1980 (give or take Illinois and Alabama):

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Pres. Bronson La Follette of WI / Vice Pres. Frank Church of ID (Farmer-Labor)
ret. Adm. James E. Carter of GA / Rep. John B. Anderson of IL (Unionist)
Rep. Larry McDonald of GA / fmr. Rep. Tony Imperiale of NJ (Liberty and Democracy)

honestly I wonder if Philip Fox La Follette would have worked better for this scenario

 

[Meppo]

strange local Russian news №1?1: on January 5, 2024 in Rybinsk, Yaroslavl Oblast, a 24 year old CPRF member got beaten up and pepper sprayed by neo-Nazis for participating in CPRF party activities (warning y'all that the article contains images of beatings, as is perhaps necessary).

В Рыбинске неонацисты избили коммуниста

Руслан Радул, житель Рыбинска, 24 лет от роду, член КПРФ, подвергся нападению со стороны группы неизвестных лиц, которые избили его и угрожали убить

yar.mk.ru

I came across this article mostly by accident while looking up info on the Rotenbergs allegedly sponsoring an irregular formation made up of football ultras (named, somewhat ironically, Española); incidentally, one of their members, a neo-Nazi by the name of Vyacheslav Subbotin, died this March, not long after reportedly organizing a seedy neo-Nazi concert in a seedy Moscow bar in celebration of Alexei Navalny's death.

Морали не будет, as they say, but this is probably one of the more obvious-in-hindsight and inevitable consequences of Pynya's decision to deepen the stupid meatgrinder that has been going on since 2014 - the reactivization of neo-Nazis that have prowled the streets in 2000s and were partially suppressed for a while during the 2010s. Not sure whether this'll lead to anything really transformative, but if 2000s are any indication teenagers and foreigners getting glassed and/or shot will be a part of it. It's not like the Russo-Ukrainian War hasn't been leaking lead.

 

[Stikfigur]

strange local Russian news №1?1: on January 5, 2024 in Rybinsk, Yaroslavl Oblast, a 24 year old CPRF member got beaten up and pepper sprayed by neo-Nazis for participating in CPRF party activities (warning y'all that the article contains images of beatings, as is perhaps necessary).

В Рыбинске неонацисты избили коммуниста

Руслан Радул, житель Рыбинска, 24 лет от роду, член КПРФ, подвергся нападению со стороны группы неизвестных лиц, которые избили его и угрожали убить

yar.mk.ru

I came across this article mostly by accident while looking up info on the Rotenbergs allegedly sponsoring an irregular formation made up of football ultras (named, somewhat ironically, Española); incidentally, one of their members, a neo-Nazi by the name of Vyacheslav Subbotin, died this March, not long after reportedly organizing a seedy neo-Nazi concert in a seedy Moscow bar in celebration of Alexei Navalny's death.

Морали не будет, as they say, but this is probably one of the more obvious-in-hindsight and inevitable consequences of Pynya's decision to deepen the stupid meatgrinder that has been going on since 2014 - the reactivization of neo-Nazis that have prowled in the streets in 2000s and were partially suppressed for a while during the 2010s. Not sure whether this'll lead to anything really transformative, but if 2000s are any indication teenagers and foreigners getting glassed and/or shot will be a part of it. It's not like the Russo-Ukrainian War hasn't been leaking lead.

Jesus, if this is a return of the 2000s Nazi gangs, I shudder at what the 2000s was like. It seems like the rise of fascist hooligans in other parts of Europe has absolutely not spared Russia.


I read a recent article on Jacobin (which yes I know has problematic people and articles, but this one is good) that noted on how the Russian government is recently pivoting to more UAE style greenwashing from outright climate denial. It mentioned that like in many other sectors, large parts of Russia's "climate plan" involves outsourcing to SEZs in a manner of "eh the SEZs will figure it out" (China is different in that it doesnt purley rely on SEZs, but SEZs were used as a conduit to gather trade and more crucially, knowledge and skill that could be learned for their own workers). And it reminded me so much on the very outsource-y nature of this war of the multitudes of private armies of large oligarchs (idk if the regular army conscripting from the rural areas count as outsourcing since its a common occurrence in other parts of history). Russia is often seen as this big authority on top of a country like the olden days in many places like America, but I think the cases of the PMCs and SEZs shows how much it can be a collection of interest groups banded together by one powerful arbiter. One is tempted to point to the Old Republic of China.

 

[Meppo]

Jesus, if this is a return of the 2000s Nazi gangs, I shudder at what the 2000s was like. It seems like the rise of fascist hooligans in other parts of Europe has absolutely not spared Russia.

It was certainly A Decade. Substantial economic growth and relative calm (particularly in the later years), but also the Second Chechen War, with the destruction that implies, and frequent neo-Nazi vs. antifa street fights/murders further fueled by procurement of weapons used in the Chechen Wars. The murder of Markelov and Baburova is the most notable example of this development, but neo-Nazis also did things like bombing the Cherkizovsky market.

(idk if the regular army conscripting from the rural areas count as outsourcing since its a common occurrence in other parts of history).

I'm pretty sure that is in fact the norm.

I read a recent article on Jacobin (which yes I know has problematic people and articles, but this one is good) that noted on how the Russian government is recently pivoting to more UAE style greenwashing from outright climate denial.

Honestly I can't say I'm particularly familiar with the article, or how SEZs are connected with climate crisis denial (I'll admit that the two Russian SEZs is know of are in Kaliningrad and Yelabuga), but maybe I just haven't come across enough news or recent statements to be concerned with on the matter.

 

[Meppo]

Jesus, if this is a return of the 2000s Nazi gangs, I shudder at what the 2000s was like. It seems like the rise of fascist hooligans in other parts of Europe has absolutely not spared Russia.

It was certainly A Decade. Substantial economic growth and relative calm (particularly in the later years), but also the Second Chechen War, with the destruction that implies, and frequent neo-Nazi vs. antifa street fights/murders further fueled by procurement of weapons used in the Chechen Wars. The murder of Markelov and Baburova is the most notable example of this development, but neo-Nazis also did things like bombing the Cherkizovsky market.

Just to clarify, if Sova (the pre-eminent analytical center of nationalist activities and xenophobia in Russia) is to be believed, the number of racist/xenophobic attacks rose by almost two thirds in 2023 compared to the previous five years, almost reaching late 2000s-2010s levels. Some limitations of the analysis provided by Sova should be acknowledged, like lack of sufficient data on the Northern Caucasus because of the wide range of nationalities represented there as well as the relative opaqueness of local governments; Sova did note, however, a surge in neo-Nazis filming and publishing their own actions en masse.

 

[Meppo]

CODES FOR THE DEAD
inspired by a particular list by Steve Brinson and a particular post on Reddit by InfernalSquad
hopefully the final Russian FH list for a while
(DISCLAIMER: This is not intended to be a particularly realistic prognosis/commentary on ongoing events besides spoofing 2022-2023 headlines regarding assorted politicians supposedly dying. I apologize if I've offended anyone with this list given the subject involved)

Spoiler

2023–2024: PM Mikhail Mishustin (nonpartisan | MOS)
- 2024: resigned following attempted assassination
2024: Deputy PM Marat Khusnullin (nonpartisan | TA)
- 2024: resigned over dispute over Constitutional legitimacy, dispute with State Duma Chair Volodin and Security Council Secretary Patrushev
2024–2024: MinAgriculture Dmitry Patrushev (nonpartisan | SPB)
- 2024: resigned amidst case pertaining to Rosselkhozbank corruption; dispute with Acting PM Dyumin and MOW Mayor Rakova
2024–2024: PM Alexei Dyumin (nonpartisan | TUL)
- 2024: killed in freak shootout with police in light of attempted self-coup
2024–2024: Deputy PM Dmitry Mironov (nonpartisan | YAR)
2024–2030: Deputy State Duma Chair Vladislav Davankov (New People | MOW)
2024: Pres. Alexei Dyumin (nonpartisan | TUL), MP Sergei Levchenko (CPRF | IRK), MP Leonid Slutsky (LDPR | MOW) [disputed]
- 2024: recognized as President by majority of governors, surviving State Duma members
2030–2033: Gov. Viktor Vorobyov (Union of Left Forces | KO)
2030: Pres. Vladislav Davankov (New People | MOW), fmr. MP Denis Parfyonov (People's Communist | MOW)
- 2033: assassinated by ex-Rusich Group militant
2033–2039: PM Oleg Mikhailov (Union of Left Forces | KO)
2034: fmr. Gov. Dmitry Ionin (New Republic | SVE)
2039–2044: Sen. Nikolai Chernikov (New Republic | LIP)
2039: MP Nikolai Bondarenko (Union of Left Forces | SAR), Mayor Alexei Kofman (Green Democrats | SVE), fmr. Oblast Duma MP Stas Vasilyev (nonpartisan | MOS)
2044–2049: Gov. Vladimir Cholakhian (Union of Left Forces | TOM)
2044: Pres. Nikolai Chernikov (New Republican | LIP)
2049–20xx: Gov. Nikita Kologrivy (New Republic | NVS)
2049: Pres. Vladimir Cholakhian (Union of Left Forces | TOM)

Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov (21 March 1950 — 14 November 2022)
Adam Sultanovich Delimkhanov (25 September 1969 — 17 June 2023)
Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu (21 May 1955 — 22 June 2023)
Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov (5 October 1976 — 17 September 2023)
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (7 October 1952 — 26 November 2023)

(P.S. would fully bolding the normal-sized sentences be better or worse for the list?)

 

[Excelsior]

(P.S. would fully bolding the normal-sized sentences be better or worse for the list?)

I think it's better as is.

 

[Meppo]

I feel like I am in a Civil War mood lately
May be continued in the future (with apologies to Japhy and Mumby)

A Tender Message to the Voters of
BOBBIN BOY BANKS
and the other Black Republicans who have brought you
THE CIVIL WAR,
THE ANGLO-FRENCH INVASION,
THE FENIAN QUAGMIRE,
THE WAR OVER CUBA
and SANTO DOMINGO,
and THE MEXICAN SCUFFLE,
Hope you're happy with your choice!​

— "election poster" allegedly circulated by Harrison H. Dodd and members of the Knights of the Golden Circle in Indiana and adjacent states, c. 1880

1861–1862: William H. Seward (Republican)
1860 (w. Simon Cameron): John C. Breckinridge / Daniel S. Dickinson ("Southern" Democratic), John Bell / Edward Everett (Constitutional Union), Stephen Douglas / James Seddon ("Northern" Democratic)
• 1862: Pres. Seward killed in Confederate bombing plot
1862–1864: Simon Cameron (Republican)
• 1864: Pres. Cameron resigned over ill health, Congressional Democrat investigation of graft in War Department
1864–1865: Solomon Foot (Republican)
1865–1873: George B. McClellan (Democratic)
1864 (w. Samuel S. Cox): Abraham Lincoln / William L. Dayton (Republican), John C. Frémont / Cassius Clay (Radical Democracy)
1868 (w. Samuel S. Cox): Henry J. Raymond / Edwin M. Stanton (Republican)
1873–1876: Oliver P. Morton (Republican)
1872 (w. Nathaniel P. Banks): Samuel S. Cox / Cyrus McCormick (Democratic), Charles F. Adams / Lyman Trumbull (Reform)
• 1876: Pres. Morton succumbed to heart attack
1876–1881: Nathaniel P. Banks (Republican)
1876 (w. Rutherford B. Hayes): Thomas Hendricks / Joel Parker (Democratic)

Spoiler

1873–1876: Oliver P. Morton (Republican)
1872 (w. Frederick Conkling): Samuel S. Cox / Cyrus McCormick (Democratic)
• 1876: Pres. Morton succumbed to heart attack
1876–1881: Frederick Conkling (Republican)
1876 (w. James Garfield): George B. McClellan / Thomas Hendricks (Democratic), Edward P. Allis / William E. Stevenson (Anti-Monopolist), Charles F. Adams / Lewis W. Ross (Reform)

 

[Meppo]

I do not have an account on Twitter and functionally cannot view it without a substantial amount of middlemen, but I have been exposed to this either way (and I found it funny)

 

[Meppo]

1908–1909: William Howard Taft / James S. Sherman (Republican)

1908 def. William Jennings Bryan / John W. Kern (Democratic)​

- 1909 shot by Julius Bergerson during visit to Ciudad Juarez​

1909–1912: James S. Sherman / vacant (Republican)
1912–1913: Philander C. Knox / vacant (Republican)
1913–1919: Theodore Roosevelt / Herbert S. Hadley (Republican)

1912 def. Champ Clark / Judson Harmon (Democratic), Eugene V. Debs / Emil Seidel (Socialist)​

1916 def. James A. O'Gorman / Robert L. Owen (Democratic), Charles E. Russell / Thomas Van Lear (Socialist)​

- 1919 died of detached blood clot​

1919–1921: Herbert S. Hadley / vacant (Republican)
1921–1922: Theodore A. Bell / Edward F. Dunne (Democratic)

1920 def. Herbert S. Hadley / Theodore E. Burton (Republican)​

- 1922 died in car crash​

1922–1923: Edward F. Dunne / vacant (Democratic)
1923–1929: Edward F. Dunne / Oscar Underwood (Democratic)

1924 def. Miles Poindexter / Nathan Miller (Republican), William Hale Thompson / J. Thomas Heflin (Independent)​

1929–1933: J. Hamilton Lewis / Herman A. Metz (Democratic)

1928 def. Frederick L. Taft / Charles Curtis (Republican)​

 

[Comrade Izaac]

1922 died in car crash

"died in a car crash in 1922" is easily top ten most embarrassing ways to go out. getting hit by a Model T going .6 miles per hour... ur not going to Heaven if that happens to you as an American politician.

 

[shearsforest]

"died in a car crash in 1922" is easily top ten most embarrassing ways to go out. getting hit by a Model T going .6 miles per hour... ur not going to Heaven if that happens to you as an American politician.

Probably accidentally drove off a bridge or something.

 

[Meppo]

"died in a car crash in 1922" is easily top ten most embarrassing ways to go out. getting hit by a Model T going .6 miles per hour... ur not going to Heaven if that happens to you as an American politician.

Probably accidentally drove off a bridge or something.

Well, not exactly "hit by a Model T going .6 miles per hour", but the one weird site I found that described it in detail states the following:

Lucio Mintzer was involved in a similar tragedy just seven years later on September 4, 1922, when driving on the Fairfax-Bolinas Road in Marin County, just north of San Francisco. Blinded by the glare of oncoming headlights, Mintzer ran his car off the road where it turned over several times, pinning both Mintzer and his passenger, Theodore Arlington Bell (left), beneath the car. Once again, Mintzer suffered only a fractured arm, but Bell, a well-known politician and attorney was killed instantly.

Though New York Times doesn't exactly make it look any more dignified, given the headline:


Honestly, I feel like the more embarrassing thing about Bell is that the first time he ran for Governor of California he was in excellent conditions for a victory - the popular Republican governor being replaced by a guy with strong Southern Pacific Railroad ties and all. The only reason Bell lost (and contributed to California's streak of electing Republican* governors for forty years) is William Randolph Hearst.

The only reason I even made this list is because I remembered that I wanted to make him President for one of your collab lists.

 

[Meppo]

Honestly speaking I don't have that many ideas for infoboxes or other graphics and it rather pains me as of lately, given that this thread is in Graphics and not Writing. The weather doesn't really help either.

 

[prezZF]

Honestly speaking I don't have that many ideas for infoboxes or other graphics and it rather pains me as of lately, given that this thread is in Graphics and not Writing. The weather doesn't really help either.

Would you like suggestions?

 

[Meppo]

Would you like suggestions?

I'm not sure. Not at the moment, probably.

 

[Time Enough]

Honestly speaking I don't have that many ideas for infoboxes or other graphics and it rather pains me as of lately, given that this thread is in Graphics and not Writing. The weather doesn't really help either.

I understand this, it’s frustrating when you can’t get your way when being creative. Generally I would say, try and do a bit of writing (I know that it’s entirely the point of the thread, but it will help generate ideas).

Also reading and all that may help.