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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Comrade Izaac said:
Honestly it's my first list on here, I'd appreciate if you could just shut the fuck up for a little while please.
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Bolt451 said:
Thanks to @Sideways and @Meadow for help on this. Please note I resisted going FULL National government and electoral reform.

2016-2017: Theresa May (Conservative)

Theresa May is generally regarded as the worst Prime Minister of all time or at least the worst Conservative Party leader. She took over as PM following David Cameron’s resignation which in turn followed a victory for the leave vote in the 2016 European Union membership referendum. Having triggered article 50 in March 2017 Theresa May took the surprising decision to call a general election to, as she put it “Strengthen her hand” in negotiations with Europe. She had a 20% lead in a lot of polls over Labour

This lead started to slowly erode in some polls but these were often considered to be outliers given the scale of the lead The Conservatives had

Then Grenfell happened.

A fire broke out in the 24 story Grenfell Tower block in North Kensington on the 17th May 2017 leading to 74 deaths and several hundred injuries. Theresa May’s response was seen as lacklustre and insincere, meeting with members of the Emergency Services but not residents directly effected. Labour doubled down on their criticism of the Government over Grenfell, saying how this was indicative of the Conservatives lack of empathy and care for the working class.

In the weeks leading from Grenfell to the election saw various polls predict both a rallying effect for May and a swing against the Tories towards Labour and the Liberal Democrats at alternating times and the country was left baffled as to what would actually happen.

On the night the results for the top four would be as follows
Labour: 321
Conservatives: 281
SNP: 20
Liberal Democrats: 9


2017-2020: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour Minority with Liberal Democrat S&C)

Several days would pass before a Supply & Confidence deal was passed between Labour and the Liberal Democrats, with less in depth agreements between Labour and both the SNP & Plaid Cymru with Labour refusing to back a second Independence referendum. None the less Corbyn would go to the palace and form a minority government.

The first Corbyn government was a creature of two halves. Domestically the government had the slimmest of majorities, not far from just enacting Lib Dem politics that were palatable to Labour. An extra one percent on income tax was introduced and NHS funding was increased (particularly mental health funding). Childcare provisions were expanded. Grants for poorest students were reintroduced but fees were not removed. Carer’s allowance was increased and the public sector pay freeze and cap was removed. Conservative tax cuts for the wealthy were reversed. Many in the media dubbed this government the “Not the Conservatives” government as all they could agree on was simply “not being the Conservatives” with very little beyond that. Many journalists commented that this was to Labour’s advantage as this “watered down” platform was much more palatable to Labour backbenchers who were much more towards the center than the Prime Minister.

While proposals for another referendum on electoral reform came to nothing. The one other thing that they managed to conclusively pass was reforming the House of Lords. The coalition-era proposals to introduce an elected house of lords was revised and more or less enacted with the first of the new mostly elected, much smaller Lords to be voted on at the next general election alongside a phase out of the least active members of the house of Lords. The main point of contention between the two parties being the allowances and pensions for Lords removed from their active roles.


2018: EU Deal Referendum 51% Deal 49% Remain

On Brexit there was a much more united front with the Lib Dems, Plaid, the SNP and even some Conservatives backing first the transitional deal and then the final deal in which Britain would stay in the Common Market, guarantee freedom of movement for EU citizens and protect workers rights. When put to a second referendum this deal passed with a fairly low turn out with many pro-leave voters less than enthusiastic about the deal. Conservatives under Jeremy Hunt were torn. They were in the position of backing leave but not really supporting the “Starmer Deal” as it was dubbed. Many Tories who backed leave in the second referendum pointing out the deal could be negotiated at a later date. When this later date was would continue to be a point of contention for the Tories throughout the government with the new Nigel Farage-led Brexit Party taking some votes from the Conservatives in the polls over Hunt’s reluctance to commit to overturning the EU-Britain Free trade Agreement at the next election.

2020-present: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour with Liberal Democrat and (some) Conservative S&C... Sort of)

When it came to dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic the parties more or less came together. Despite calls for a full National Emergency government (something the Conservative back benches immediately screamed about) the Labour minority government reached out to the Conservatives to push through some basic legislation over lockdowns Furlough pay, fines for non compliance of lockdown and supporting businesses, isolation of people arriving in Britain and more radical proposals such as a temporary universal basic income floundered. Despite this, the “Covid Compact” would hold and the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition would hold regular meetings throughout 2020 and key matters would be supported across the aisle even if Tory backbenchers were much less compliant.

Britain would go into Lockdown on 16th March with the Prime Minister and his Health Secretary Jon Ashworth giving regular press conferences about the virus. The Prime Minister would fall ill with the virus in November 2020, requiring hospitalisation.

It was generally accepted that the Minority government would end in 2020 once the final EU deal had been passed but this was postponed due to COVID-19. The election is scheduled for May 2021, as is the Welsh Assembly election, the Scottish Parliament election and the first election for the House of Lords.

Polls currently put Labour slightly in the lead with Conservative success hinging on how well the Brexit Party do. Meanwhile Layla Moran's Lib Dems seek to make gains at the Conservative's expense in pro-remain seats. Corbyn and Hunt face off in a mostly virtual House of Commons with every one of Britain's 75,000 deaths being laid at the PM's feet while Corbyn looks across to the opposition benches repeating the two mantras "You voted for this too" and "What would you have done differently?"

There's a high chance that Britain will get 5 more years of socialist and centrist meeting together in the middle, somewhere in the soft left, just outside the EU.
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Dammit now I want to write more of this

It's probably a swapped Ready for govt but with Labour in the driving seat and the Overton Window significantly to the left.

Definitely a chaotic 2021 election with Farage busting a blood vessel about postal votes.
 
Japhy said:
Try putting actual effort in and you'll get different responses from people. It was a bad list.
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I did put effort in, you just didn't like it and that's fine but you don't have to be an asshole about it because you definitely are (literally implied that I was a boog because you didn't get the first line was sarcasm). Now if you want to continue to be an asshole that's fine, I'm not even going to post on here anymore, it's clear that someone of my subpar alternate history lists writing skills isn't wanted, but if you want a response other than "Shut the fuck up" from someone maybe don't dogpile someone for literally their first post on a forum and then act like a clown when someone tries to correct you. That's childish, ecspecially considering that fact that there are some lists on here that are literally two sentences in plain black and people are mature enough to just not say anything then.

Have a good night everyone.
 
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Comrade Izaac said:
I did put effort in, you just didn't like it and that's fine but you don't have to be an asshole about it because you definitely are (literally implied that I was a boog because you didn't get the first line was sarcasm). Now if you want to continue to be an asshole that's fine, I'm not even going to post on here anymore, it's clear that someone of my subpar alternate history lists writing skills isn't wanted, but if you want a response other than "Shut the fuck up" from someone maybe don't dogpile someone for literally their first post on a forum and then act like a clown when someone tries to correct you. That's childish, ecspecially considering that fact that there are some lists on here that are literally two sentences in plain black and people are mature enough to just not say anything then.

Have a good night everyone.
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Look, if the first thing you're ever going to post is something you refer to as Utopian and then seems utterly in line with what fascists actually want and expect a bunch of people who don't know you to get that you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic its not going to go well for you. If you think Im a clown whatever. But you can't expect happy go lucky reactions.
 
Japhy said:
Look, if the first thing you're ever going to post is something you refer to as Utopian and then seems utterly in line with what fascists actually want and expect a bunch of people who don't know you to get that you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic its not going to go well for you. If you think Im a clown whatever. But you can't expect happy go lucky reactions.
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Because it was ironic, you mung!
Christ alive, I'm absolutely stunned that I have to point this out to not only YOU but a bunch of others.
 
Japhy said:
Look, if the first thing you're ever going to post is something you refer to as Utopian and then seems utterly in line with what fascists actually want and expect a bunch of people who don't know you to get that you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic its not going to go well for you. If you think Im a clown whatever. But you can't expect happy go lucky reactions.
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I literally put "Part One" in giant bold letters in order to clarify to make sure that people didn't misinterpret me running out of ideas but eventually wanting to continue the subject for "Ah yes despite having "Comrade" in my name, my ideal utopia, for which I was known explicitly for not writing insofar as I was known on the other forum where most of the people here were/are regulars, is one where Donald Trump is President".

And I wasn't expecting "Happy go lucky reactions". You tried to imply I was a fucking boogalo boy dude.
 
Japhy said:
who don't know you to get that you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic
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ALSO MOST OF YOU DO KNOW ME. LITERALLY LIKE 90% OF YOU KNOW ME. Not even like "oh were on the same forum", like deadass we've interacted frequently and y'all still were either like "yeah they're a fash" or "I'm just gonna be a dick for no reason" instantly.
 
Comrade Izaac said:
-Increased sanctions against Venezuela following personal feud between Presidents Biden and Maduro (2022)
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Question.

How does the feud between Biden and AMLO affect American politics at home and abroad?

Comrade Izaac said:
-Over 150,000 EMTs vote to Unionize with the AFL-CIO in November (2022)
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union revival time

Comrade Izaac said:
-Harris makes multiple Cabinet shuffles, including; Buttigieg (Trans.->HHS), Whitmer (To Trans.), Beccera retires to run for Senate, Antony Blinken (State->Ambd. To China), Austin (Def.->State), and Gillibrand (To Def.) (2023)
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Does Fudge replace Vilsack over at Agriculture as well?

Comrade Izaac said:
-Ironically facing similarly low approval ratings to her predecessor, Harris would be defeated by her predecessor, albeit by a much narrow margin than most expected; Trump, older, meaner, and more insane than ever, would recapture most of the Rust Belt (with the exception of MI), Arizona, and Georgia and for the first time, winning the popular vote, albeit again narrowly (2024)
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All those conflicts of interest and tax trials must have taken a toll on him, didn't they?

I bet he's aching to tell New York to Drop Dead. 🤭

Comrade Izaac said:
-Democrats actually make gains in the House in 2024, winning 17 seats and only loosing 4, but they still loose 9 seats in the Senate [AZ, PA, OH, MI, WI, MN, MT, WV, and VA] while only winning one themselves [FL]; In total, the gains are D+14, R+8 (2024)
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Man, that has to be one very popular and/or skilled campaigner to win in Florida amidst a GOP wave.

In all seriousness it's a fairly decent post, misunderstandings and gloominess aside, but overall speaking I'd appreciate a continuation @Comrade Izaac.
 
Meppo said:
How does the feud between Biden and AMLO affect American politics at home and abroad?
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This was a thread I was going to explore in a hypothetical continuation; Not much, because Biden is immensely hesitant to start doing anything that might fracture his relationship with Hispanic voters more, but relations between the U.S and Latin American Nations as a whole decline further over the course of both Biden and his successors.

Meppo said:
Does Fudge replace Vilsack over at Agriculture as well?
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Nah. Fudge likes her cozy position at HUD a little to much and Vilsack overall was politically irrelevant enough over the course of the Biden-Harris Administrations that Harris doesn't have much interest in attempting to replace him and bring unwanted attention the Department.




Meppo said:
Man, that has to be one very popular and/or skilled campaigner to win in Florida amidst a GOP wave.
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The GOP thought it would be really funny to nominate Matt Gatez for Senate in 24' when Rick Scott decides to go kick it with Oil Industry Lobbyists for the rest of his career and he pretty expectedly looses against Darren Soto, which is actually how he (temporarily) gets the State Department job.
 
gentleman biaggi said:
why don’t you put some actual effort into getting some fucking bitches
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Delaying the Problem
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine 2017-2025
2016: Def. Donald Trump/Michael Flynn, Gary Johnson/Bill Weld
2020: Def. Ben Sasse/Nikki Haley, Justin Amash/Larry Sharpe, Tulsi Gabbard/John Eder
Mike Lindell/John James 2025-2028*
2024: Def. Elizabeth Warren/Julian Castro, Mark Sanford/Ricky Harrington, Jr.
John James/vacant 2028-2029
London Breed/Steve Bullock 2029-
2028: Def. Mike Lindell/John James, Denver Riggleman/Radley Balko
2032: Def. Dwayne Johnson/Phil Scott, Michael Flynn, Jr./Jim Jordan

Well the last 20 years have been a bit of a shitshow. 2016 was disastrous for the Republican Party, with repeated scandals bombarding their inexperienced candidate, the businessman Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton won with a clear mandate, but observers did note that even as Trump lost suburbs and states like North Carolina, Florida and Arizona by solid margins he made unusual gains in the Midwest. Clinton's presidency was largely more of the same compared to the Obama administration. 2018 was a disaster for the Democrats thanks to a very GOP-favored map and intense right-wing ire aimed at Clinton. In 2020, she seemed clearly vulnerable and so over 2 dozen Republicans tried to challenge her, including 2016 nominee Donald Trump. Trump's death in 2020 would become a fixture in future conspiracy theories but is generally accepted as having been caused by covid-19. Sasse did his best against Clinton but ultimately suffered an even worse defeat as the Democrats managed to add Georgia into their column.

The Republicans had a choice over the next 4 years. Many commentators attributed the GOP defeat to increasing far-right sentiment among the rank-and-file. To many of them, the Sasse/Haley ticket was insufficiently conservative, too willing to play nice. It was this fringe that many said would doom the GOP. And yet what happened instead was that fringe began a roaring rise. The so-called 'Patriot Party' movement was the clear winner of the 2022 midterms. It had a dozen would-be champions attempting to claim the 2024 nomination. The man who ultimately became their standard bearer was businessman Mike Lindell, a man who touted how despite blatant rigging in Democrat-run Minnesota he still got an official result within 2% of the incumbent governor. Lindell promoted many conspiracy theories-claims that Clinton's administration was staffed by Satanists, voter fraud had handed the Democrats the White House in ever election since 2008 and even in a debate alluded to the Clinton body count conspiracy theory to the face of Senator Elizabeth Warren. Many pundits dismissed his odds of winning-and yet the day after the election, America woke up to Lindell having managed to clinch the presidency by razor-thin margins thanks to sweeping the Midwest outside of Illinois and flipping Florida, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada to boot.

A number of Lindell's agenda items struggled to get passed. The courts, dominated by Clinton appointees, ruled against him in efforts to restrict Muslim immigration, declare martial law amidst BLm protests or get the Justice Department to investigate 'Soros-funded agitators.' Republicans proved more reluctant to help Lindell's more...questionable ambitions, though they were happy to ram through judges, tax cuts and funding for a wall along the US-Mexican and US-Canadian borders (don't ask why he wanted two walls it's still not totally clear). 2026, however, was the GOP's turn to experience an electoral bloodbath. South Carolina, Montana, Maine and Texas all flipped and Majority Leader McConnell had a race with less than 5% difference. The Breed/Bullock ticket cobbled together a broad coalition, making gains across almost all demographics.

The most nightmarish part of Lindell's term would prove to be the transition period. Lindell baselessly asserted that the election had only been won by the Democrats due to fraud and fired his Attorney General Ted Cruz for not going along with it. Ultimately, after the electoral college voted, Lindell seemingly snapped. He attempted to declare martial law before being stopped by the courts and told his supporters 'we are the Storm', a reference to a phrase used by the extremise QAnon movement. Hardline Lindell supporters rioted in numerous locations across the country. Three Democrat electors were assassinated in Pennsylvania. Lindell fired the FBI director for not arresting Breed. The California Capitol was breached by armed militants seeking to murder Governor Alex Padilla (though fortunately the day ended in only 2 casualties, both of them militants). Ultimately things proved horrible enough that Vice President James, largely a quiet figure, initiated the 25th Amendment against Lindell. The partisan loyalty to Lindell was likewise broken when reports came out that far-right groups intended to march on the US Capitol on January 6th to prevent final election certification and Lindell was supportive of this effort. Lindell became the first president removed by the 25th Amendment in US history and also became the first president to be imprisoned immediately after leaving office.

Needless to say, Lindell's erratic behavior left some considerable scars on the nation. Lindell's loyalists have sought to carry out terrorist attacks, the worst of which claimed nearly 100 lives in New York City. The Republican Party, already battered by 2026 and 2028 results, was only further shattered when a member of the PAGOP executive board was implicated in a plan to assassinate Breed while she was visiting Philadelphia. 2030 became the first midterm since 2002 where the president's party netted gains in both the House and Senate. Several Republican officeholders left the GOP after the 2028 disaster and the 2032 election saw them place behind Libertarian nominee Dwayne Johnson, a supporter of 'compassionate libertarianism', in the popular vote (though many Republicans grumble had the electoral college been preserved they would've placed ahead of Johnson even if he was the most popular candidate in several formerly Republican states). That said, there are clear signs of light as the country enters 2036. Breed remains quite popular and it's clear that the increasingly-moderating Libertarians' eclipsing of the GOP is no fluke based on 2034 midterm results. Breed implemented Medicare for All, ended the War on Drugs and passed comprehensive immigration reform and has been working on reducing-if not eliminating-student debt. The terrorism that characterized the 2028-2030 period is a fading memory as far-right groups decline in membership. Climate change remains an issue, Clinton did not act radically on the climate and Lindell claimed it was a hoax, so it still is an issue, but things might get better.
 
Mirror on the wall
1953-1961:Herbert Charles Holdridge/Eugene McCarthy(Democratic)
1952:Paul Patterson/James F.Brynes(Republican)
1956:Paul Patterson/Harold Stassen(Republican)
1961-1963:Philip Willkie/Charles H.Percy(Republican) †
1960:Eugene McCarthy/John Kennedy(Democratic)
1963-1969:Charles H.Percy/William Scanton(Republican)
1964:Wayne Morse/George McGovern(Democratic)
1969-1974:Eugene McCarthy/Richard H. Balch(Democratic)
1968:William Scanton/Mark Hatfield(Republican),Channing E. Phillips/James Gavin(American Peace)
1972:Roger MacBride/George Bush(Republican)
1974:Eugene McCarthy/Mo Udall(Democratic)
1974-1977:Mo Udall/Pat Brown(Democratic)
1977-1981:Howard Baker/Larry Presser(Republican)
1976:Mo Udall/Walter Mondale(Democratic)
1981-1989:Paul Newman/Birch Bayh(Democratic)
1980:Howard Baker/Larry Presser(Republican),Cliff Finch/Patrick Lucey(NU)
1984:Larry Presser/Phyllis Schlafly(Republican)
1989-1993:Birch Bayh/Bill Clinton(Democratic)
1988:Pete du Pont/Robert Orr(Republican)
1993-2001:Lee Atwater/Carroll Campbell(Republican)
1992:Birch Bayh/Bill Clinton(Democratic),Steve Jobs/Ralph Nader(Independent)
1996:Walter Mondale/Larry Agran(Democratic),Steve Jobs/Mike Gravel(Change)
2001-2009:Evan Bayh/Eric Holder(Democratic)
2000:Carroll Campbell/Linda Lingle(Republican)
2004:John McCain/John Kasich(Republican)
2009-2017:Bobby Jindal/Dan Quayle(Republican)
2008:John Kerry/Cynthia McKinney(Democratic)
2012:Jerry Brown/Anthony Weiner
2017-2021:Mark Cuban/Martin O'Malley(Democratic)
2016:Sally Atwater/Bob McDonnell(Republican)
2021-202?:Dan Quayle/Candace Owens(Republican)
2020:Mark Cuban/Martin O'Malley(Democratic)

inspired by @Callan wikibox series on the other place
 
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