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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Ohhh

I like this a lot

Having a Brancoveanu or a Movila on the throne of Romania is hella inspired

Great job,but I should note that it’s spelled Constanta,not Constantia

Besides that,it’s wonderful.
I know. It’s an alternative anglicization. In TTL Romanian (or should I say Roumanian), it’s still spelt Constanța.
 
Great job. There 's also an interesting potential back-story as to who 'George I' from Brunswick is - presumably in this version of events the 'King Jameses III and IV' in GB mean that the Hanoverian Succession has never taken place. So is he a lineal descendant of our OTL 'George III' and 'George IV' (from a junior line of the House of Brunswick, ruling in Celle/ Calenberg/ Hanover, with the latter marrying differently and having a son, a descendant of the OTL Ernest, Duke of Cumberland, or of the senior line of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel?

I presume we don't get a First World War in this scenario, as Austria-Hungary has been broken up by defeat in 1912 so there's no need for Serb irredentists to cause trouble in Bosnia in 1914, and so no Second WW either. A surviving monarchic Balkans not minced between the power-blocs of Germany and Russia in 1914-18 and 1939-89 is one of my own enthusiasms, from reading up a lot of 1930s-40s Balkan history books and royal memoirs at the University of London as a student.

Another alternate royal line in Roumania could be the Cantacuzenes, as a major player in the Phanariot nobility in Wallachia/ Moldavia in the C17th and C18th and with merchant dynasty links at the Porte in Constantinople - and as they had a claim (never established definitely) to be from the Byzantine imperial dynasty of Emperor John VI Cantacuzene (ruled 1347-54, d 1383) things could get interesting if their enlarged Roumania faced off against Greece by c.1912. They could then claim the Greek throne as 'genuine Greeks', unlike the Danish OTL Greek royal family.

Things could also alter drastically in the Balkans if the pro-Russian Karageorgeovics do not get their Serb throne back in 1903 by means of the military coup and Alexander II Obrenovic's and Queen Draga's assassination. That way, Serbia is an Austro-Hungarian not Russian client in 1914 and Russia does not back it in case of any Sarajevo AH royal murder. The Obernovics, who led the successful second Serb breakaway from the Sultanate after 1817, could still be on the throne if either Alexander I,a strong and centralising ruler had not been murdered in 1868 (and had then had a son) or if Milan Obrenovic II had not been driven to abdicate in his under-age son Alexander II's favour in 1889. Born 1854, Milan could still be on the throne in 1912-14, as an AH client, and attracted AH and German military backing and officers to stabilise his regime and army - then presumably the 'Black Hand' anti-AH irredentists in Serbia would have been rounded up by the Serbian regime as 'Russian agents'. Gavrilo Princip would have been in gaol or exile, and we would have had no Sarajevo crisis and in 1916 a new AH Emperor Franz Ferdinand ready to set on the Hungarian grip on the Dual Monarchy by creating a separate Croatian sub-kingdom.
 
inspired by what @Japhy was talking about the other day

Born In The Wrong Generation

1961-1969: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1960 (with Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.) def. John F. Kennedy (Democratic), Harry F. Byrd (Democratic, unpledged electors)
1964 (with Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.) def. Sam Yorty (Democratic), Hubert H. Humphrey (Freedom Democratic)

1969-1973: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1968 (with Jim Rhodes) def. George Smathers (Democratic)
1973-1981: Scoop Jackson (Democratic)
1972 (with George Wallace) def. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican), Ezra Taft Benson (Independent)
1976 (with George Wallace) def. John Lindsay (Republican), William F. Buckley (National Conservative)

1981-1989: George Bush (Republican)
1980 (with Lowell Weicker) def. John Connally (Democratic)
1984 (with Clarence Thomas) def. Jeane Kirkpatrick (Democratic)

1989-1997: Clarence Thomas (Republican)
1988 (with Pete du Pont) def. Al Gore (Democratic)
1992 (with Pete du Pont) def. Dick Gephardt (Democratic)

1997-2001: Pat Buchanan (Democratic)
1996 (with Edmund Brown Jr.) def. Bill Blythe (Republican)
2001-2005: Bernie Sanders (Republican)
2000 (with Jesse Jackson) def. Pat Buchanan (Democratic)

Was this the Nixon victory in 1960 time line?
 
@AlfieJ showed me Richard Ojeda's campaign video and it felt extremely Smedley to me.

so uh

enjoy this list

Presidents of the United States of America

2017-2019: Donald J. Trump (Republican)
2016 (with Michael T. Flynn) def. Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2017: Impeachment of Vice President Michael T. Flynn (Republican)
2018: Senate confirmation of Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican) as Vice President

2019-2020: Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican)
2020-2025: Richard N. Ojeda II (Workers)
2020 (with Kshama Sawant) def. Donald J. Trump (Independent) [ineligible], Joe Biden (National Unity)
 
@AlfieJ showed me Richard Ojeda's campaign video and it felt extremely Smedley to me.

so uh

enjoy this list

Presidents of the United States of America

2017-2019: Donald J. Trump (Republican)
2016 (with Michael T. Flynn) def. Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2017: Impeachment of Vice President Michael T. Flynn (Republican)
2018: Senate confirmation of Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican) as Vice President

2019-2020: Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican)
2020-2025: Richard N. Ojeda II (Workers)
2020 (with Kshama Sawant) def. Donald J. Trump (Independent) [ineligible], Joe Biden (National Unity)
Chasing Shadows 2:The Twitter Years
 
Richard Lawrence :Kills President Andrew Jackson(will do a write up later.I skiped over a few presidents also,)

7. Andrew Jackson in office

8.John C. Calhoun

9.James K. Polk

10.Lewis Cass

11. Benjamin Harrison

12.William Jennings Bryan
 
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1979-1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Minority, with Liberal and UUP confidence and supply) def. Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1984: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative minority, with Liberal confidence and supply)
1984-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Democratic), Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), Cecil Parkinson (Conservative), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1988: Denis Healey (Labour majority)
1988-1998: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1989 (Majority) def. Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), collective (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1993 (Majority) def. Teresa Gorman (Peoples'), Jan Clark (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist), collective (Team Syntegrity)

1998-2007: Richard Littlejohn (Peoples')
1998 (Coalition with Democrats) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), collective (Syntegrationist)
2001 (Majority) def. Peter Mandelson (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), Bernie Grant (New Socialist), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), Sadie Plant (Syntegrity: The Millennium Challenge)
2006 (Majority) def. Ken Livingstone (Labour), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), Alan Milburn (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

2007-2011: Boris Johnson (Populist majority)
2011-2014: Ken Livingstone (Labour)
2011 (Coalition with Greens, the NSP and Democrats) def. Boris Johnson (Peoples'), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), David Miliband (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist)
2014-2019: Nick Land (Independent Syntegrationist)
2014 (New Team Pact with Greens and Democrats) def. Sarah Vine (Peoples'), Diane Abbott (New Socialist), Ken Livingstone (Labour), Ian Paisley Jr. (Ulster Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
 
1979-1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Minority, with Liberal and UUP confidence and supply) def. Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1984: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative minority, with Liberal confidence and supply)
1984-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Democratic), Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), Cecil Parkinson (Conservative), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1988: Denis Healey (Labour majority)
1988-1998: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1989 (Majority) def. Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), collective (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1993 (Majority) def. Teresa Gorman (Peoples'), Jan Clark (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist), collective (Team Syntegrity)

1998-2007: Richard Littlejohn (Peoples')
1998 (Coalition with Democrats) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), collective (Syntegrationist)
2001 (Majority) def. Peter Mandelson (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), Bernie Grant (New Socialist), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), Sadie Plant (Syntegrity: The Millennium Challenge)
2006 (Majority) def. Ken Livingstone (Labour), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), Alan Milburn (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

2007-2011: Boris Johnson (Populist majority)
2011-2014: Ken Livingstone (Labour)
2011 (Coalition with Greens, the NSP and Democrats) def. Boris Johnson (Peoples'), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), David Miliband (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist)
2014-2019: Nick Land (Independent Syntegrationist)
2014 (New Team Pact with Greens and Democrats) def. Sarah Vine (Peoples'), Diane Abbott (New Socialist), Ken Livingstone (Labour), Ian Paisley Jr. (Ulster Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

I had to go and look up Nick Land. Oof, why would you do this, Bob. Or is that Nick land as a Stafford Beers type Syntegralist?
 
Bob's done a write-up on his test-thread on t'Other Place, and yeah what's in charge is essentially Cybersyn filtered through the mad mind of Mr Accelerationism himself.

yeah but i imagine nick land isnt the type to simply follow in his forefather's footsteps

this is gonna be Cybersyn with Dark Enlightenment characteristics
 
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i’m anticipating the rationalwiki page i’ll be reading while listening to mingus

i remember first hearing about him when reading a book called HUMAN and at the time he was just this quirky guy who put chips in his hands so he can dial up with his brain or something

and then i next heard of him off @AlfieJ and he'd rotted his brain with drugs and become one of the sorcerors of neo-reaction and it was a hell of a trip
 
i remember first hearing about him when reading a book called HUMAN and at the time he was just this quirky guy who put chips in his hands so he can dial up with his brain or something

and then i next heard of him off @AlfieJ and he'd rotted his brain with drugs and become one of the sorcerors of neo-reaction and it was a hell of a trip
he’s probably up there as one of the most fascinatingly odd figures of modern times. An ambition of mine is to write a biography one day once I’ve got my head around half the daft things he’s said.

An excellent list as ever bob - for those interested I did my own a while back similar based on my own pet theory that there is a l out in common between New Times and Accelerationism but this is far more believable
 
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1980November 6, 19841988
All 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College
270 electoral votes needed to win
Turnout 53.3%[1]
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0.7 ppNomineePartyHome stateRunning mateElectoral voteStates carried Popular votePercentage

Ronald ReaganWalter Mondale
RepublicanDemocratic
CaliforniaMinnesota
George H. W. Bush Gary Hart
12513
3491 + DC
34,455,47247,577,352


1988 United States presidential election
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1984November 8, 19881992
All 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College
270 electoral votes needed to win
Turnout 50.2%[1]
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3.1 ppNomineePartyHome stateRunning mateElectoral voteStates carriedPopular vote

George H. W. BushMichael Dukakis
RepublicanDemocratic
TexasMassachusetts
Jay Rockefeller
126111[2]
34010 + DC
40,886,59741,809,074
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Reagan's Alzheimer's

1. During debars with former vice president Mondale president Reagan seems confused. it is later revealed he has Alzheimer s.The fact president Reagan has
Alzheimer's and he picked the charismatic Colorado senator Gary Hart. this is enough to carry him to victory in a surprise election victory for 41st
president Walter Mondale.

Once in office President Mondale works to improve medicare and social security programs.
He cancels shuttle program after shuttle disaster but work on a moon base is under way.
2
.Gary HART will not be on the reelection for president ticket in 1988 Had Affair With Donna Rice. A picture is published with the vice president tn Rices lap on the boat monkey business.President Mondale did not ask hart to step down nor resign .he stayed in office till term expired.
President Mondale was disappointed in his v.p."s actions but he helped him win in 1984 and was grateful for that.
Jay Rockefeller will be Mondale running mate .He will become second Rockefeller to be vice president of the united states.

George Bush could of won in 1988 the economy was so so and more could of been done for government defense However.Bush unlike Reagan lacked charisma.
2nd term president Mondale he became last cold war president.

there IS No Gulf War Saddam Freed Kuwait after U.S. naval Blockade AND Threatening Military Retaliation.In 1990 The republican party took control of the white house for the first time in decade .The Republicans did not agree with Mondale's liberal philosophy. President Mondale looked at the late vice president Humphrey as a mentor and tried to run the country as Humphrey would of had he been elected in 1968.
 
America In Reverse
Benjamin Franklin/John Adams 1789-1793

A wealthy man surprisingly becomes the oldest president in history, even as his opponents criticize him for vulgarity and his sex life.
Charles Carroll/John Jay 1793-1801
The first member of an often-discriminated against minority group becomes a two-term president and has to contend with large-scale opposition to his agenda.
Samuel Adams/John Randolph 1801-1809
A member of a political dynasty controversially wins his first elections, but manages to earn enormous popularity before losing it all after an unpopular war occurs under his leadership.
Thomas Jefferson/George Clinton 1809-1817
A southern president has to contend with scandal surrounding his sex life and takes the nation to war.
John Quincy Adams/James Monroe 1817-1821
A relative of another president earns accolades for foreign policy experience, but many come to doubt his domestic economic agenda which costs him a second term
Washington Irving/William Wirt 1821-1829
An entertainer turns politician turns president, winning two landslide victories and becoming an icon for his party
John C. Calhoun/Martin Van Buren 1829-1833
A southerner becomes a one-term president due to failing to handle numerous crises that occur in a successful manner
John Bell/Martin Van Buren 1833-1835 (Assassinated)
A congressional leader serves for two years as president
Martin Van Buren/vacant 1835-1837
Martin Van Buren/Henry Lee 1837-1841
A former vice president becomes the president, only to be mired in controversy over atrocities committed in ongoing conflicts, economic downturn and how he won his reelection, leading to him departing office a reviled man.
Henry Clay/Millard Fillmore 1841-1847 (Resigned)
A titan of the Senate wins a massive electoral landslide and passes a sweeping legislative agenda to improve the country, but ends up stepping aside before he intended to do so.
Millard Fillmore/vacant 1847-1849
A young man serves for just two years and becomes a favorite of later conspiracy theorists down the line.
Winfield Scott/Hannibal Hamlin 1849-1857
A general and war hero becomes a widely popular two-term president running alongside a man who will later become president
Merideth Miles Marmaduke/Horatio Seymour 1857-1865
A stubborn man from Missouri serves two terms and ends up starting a highly unpopular war.
Hannibal Hamlin/Thaddeus Stevens 1865-1873
Hannibal Hamlin/William Sherman 1873-1877

Hannibal Hamlin/James Blaine 1877 (Died in office)
A man loathed as a radical by his opponents wins four elections, realigns the nation's politics and wins a major war before dying in office.
James Blaine/vacant 1877-1881
A one-term president becomes vehemently despised by the country at large for various slights against them, leading to a landslide defeat.
Winfield Scott Hancock/Grover Cleveland 1881-1887 (Died in office)
A largely forgotten man becomes the president, serving for six years.
Grover Cleveland/vacant 1887-1889
A two-year president presides over quite a bit of corruption largely stemming from his inaction rather than personal dishonesty.
Henry George/Benjamin Harrison 1889-1897
An academic becomes a politician who presides over various progressive initiatives and leads the nation to victory in a war.
Oliver Wendell Holmes/John Sherman 1897-1901
A president who truly aspired to become a Supreme Court judge serves a single term before losing badly
William Jennings Bryan/Champ Clark 1901-1909
The youngest president in history takes a leading role in pursuing a progressive agenda, becoming one of the nation's greatest presidents
Robert Latham Owen/Alton B. Parker 1909-1913
A conservative-minded president in favor of the gold standard serves a single term in office.
Charles Evans Hughes/Henry Cabot Lodge 1913-1917
The only president to serve nonconsecutive terms wins alongside the father of a future presidential candidate
Robert La Follette/James Cox 1917-1921
A relative of another president wins the presidency despite losing the popular vote.
Charles Evans Hughes/Calvin Coolidge 1921-1925
The only president to serve nonconsecutive terms presides over general economic prosperity.
Theodore Bilbo/James M. Cox 1925-1929 (Assassinated)
A staunch advocate of immigration restrictions serves almost a full term in office
James M. Cox/vacant 1929
A president departs office within his first year of taking it thanks to the role of an assassin.
Burton K. Wheeler/Al Smith 1929-1933
A man claims the White House via backroom deals despite losing the popular vote
Douglas MacArthur/Frank Knox 1933-1941
A general wins two terms as president, but faces major scandals and widespread distrust in his administration
Huey Long/James Farley 1941-1945
A southerner is narrowly impeached by Congress for mishandling key areas of his presidency
Earl Warren/Thomas Dewey 1945-1949
A major liberal reformer takes the presidency and has to crush large-scale disorder in the southern United States, becoming an icon of civil rights by the time he leaves office
Henry Wallace/Estes Kefauver 1949-1953
A one-termer becomes reviled by historians as the worst in history due to his failure in numerous crises occurring under his watch
Adlai Stevenson/Harry Truman 1953-1957
A one-term president is in hindsight blamed for major missteps, but does not fail as badly as the other fellow
Barry Goldwater/Dwight D. Eisenhower 1957-1959 (Resigned)
A hardline president serves for just over half a term and ultimately runs as a third-party candidate after leaving office
Dwight D. Eisenhower/Nelson Rockefeller 1959-1961
A war hero serves as a president for a short while, trying to deal with major unrest in the country at large.
Hubert Humphrey/George Smathers 1961-1965
A president accomplishes all of his policy goals in just a single term in office, including winning a major war with a Latin American country
H.R. Gross/Philip La Follette 1965-1969 (Resigned)
A man hated by the rest of his party for opposing much of their agenda makes it to the White House.
Philip La Follette/vacant 1969
A distant relative of another president serves for just a month, becoming the shortest-serving leader in US history
John Lindsey/George W. Romney 1969-1973
A New Yorker becomes a one-term president who is blamed for a recession despite the fact it is largely not his fault
Robert McNamara/Henry M. Jackson 1973-1981
A military leader serves two terms, which he wins by running as a generally populist candidate. He is praised for many of his actions during his term but hindsight looks unfavorably upon many of his key decisions.
Ron Paul/John B. Anderson 1981-1985
A member of a politically influential family wins through backroom dealings, for which he is condemned by his opponent who ultimately beats him four years later.
Edmund Muskie/Walter Mondale 1985-1993
A former Secretary of State serves two terms, one of which was his landslide reelection
Anthony Kennedy/John McCain 1993-2001
A man respected for his understanding of the Constitution serves for eight years and has to contend with a war that occurs on US soil.
Joe Biden/Dick Gephardt 2001-2009
A president who was prominent for many years prior to taking office serves two terms after winning running against his predecessor's more unpopular policies
Rand Paul/Gary Johnson 2009-2013
A relative of another president becomes the only president to be a member of his party, but only lasts a single term before suffering defeat after increasing tensions with old allies
James Mattis/Bill Weld 2013-
A widely respected general becomes president, promising to govern as a nonpartisan alongside a running mate from Massachusetts
 
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