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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Tsar of New Zealand

Incredibly Stale Bants
The Bureaucracy
Caygill Exercises or: If Roger Douglas Had Resigned

Governors of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand
1982 - 1984: Dick Wilks (Keynesian) [1]
1984 - 1988: Graham Scott (Caygillite) [2]
1988 - 1993: Donald Brash (Austrian) [3]
1993 - 2003: Alan Bollard (Orthodox) [4]
2003 - 2008: Mark Prebble (Orthodox)
2008 - 2011: Roger Kerr (Caygillite) [5]
2011 - 2018: John Key (Caygillite/Orthodox) [6]
2018 - 0000: Gareth Morgan (Keynesian/???) [7]

[1] Wilks was the last of the Muldoon-era Governors, and his tenure covered events including the wage-and-price freeze, the Closer Economic Relationship with Australia, and the Opposition's shift to a radical free-market policy under Finance spokesman David Caygill.

[2] Appointed shortly after Labour's landslide victory, Scott was everything the new Government aimed to be: fresh, enthusiastic, inexperienced, and committed to far-reaching reforms. Economic and monetary policy was turned on its head overnight, and Scott backed it all the way.

Then the '87 crash happened, and a resignation seemed like a good career move.

[3] Enter Donald Brash, whose solution to the problem was always, always, 'more market'. The RBNZ Act sanctified this gospel; the Reserve Bank was no longer concerned with ridiculous socialist policies like 'full employment', and the Governor would now concern himself with inflation over his statutory five-year term.

But New Zealanders' excitement at change had congealed into worry, as people had discovered that you could lose money on the stock market as well as make it. The change in government did little to reassure them, and indeed the continuing pain led to the hung Parliament of '93 which brought Winston Peters back into power as part of the fragile National-'led' coalition. In this brave new world a radical Reserve Bank simply would not do. The Treasurer leaned on the Board, a more suitable candidate was found, and Brash was 'encouraged' into a position with the High Commission, London.

[4] Bollard was a safe pair of hands who saw RBNZ through a period of tranquillity at the eye of a political storm. Thanks to a series of by-elections, defections, and jostling for position in the run-up to the first MMP election, New Zealand saw five governments in three years and an Asian financial crisis shortly after.

Amidst this chaos, a steady hand on the Official Cash Rate was welcomed by the business community, and the various National and Labour Governments applauded Wheeler's stewardship. By 2003 the post-Caygill order had crystallised, and the torch passed to an heir who would carry the light of neoliberalism forward.

[5] Kerr's appointment as Governor was a steady-as-she-goes affair, reflecting an incrementalist libertarian shade of opinion in the finance community owing to the rosy economic outlook of the 2000s. While not Brash by any stretch, Kerr's responses to the housing market crash were a good deal more liberal than even the PM had in mind, and would frustrate the policies of the incoming Seventh Labour Government until he resigned from illness partway into his term.

[6] Kerr's deputy was another orthodox follower of the Caygillite consensus, who helped to ensure that the new National Government's more hands-off approach to the Christchurch rebuild would be complemented by cheap borrowing to encourage property development, both in Christchurch and the swelling Auckland metropolis.

Then the ANZ thing blew up across the Tasman, and people started asking questions. Somebody did some digging, and found out about the Lehman Brothers thing, which led to the Bear Sterns thing, which led back to the Merrill Lynch thing, and after that hit the media, well, it all got pretty messy pretty fast.

The new Minister of Finance was rather insistent that the Reserve Bank do more than put the Governor on gardening leave, before the matter reached the courts.

[7] And so, after much horse-trading, soul-searching, and deal-making, the Board found a man from the outside. A maverick, certainly, but one who had managed NZ Super very well indeed. Morgan is still a bit of an unknown quantity, but he has endeared himself to the new Government with his frank personality and general alignment with their direction. Although his age means he will only get one term, Morgan is determined to take this chance to make his mark.

A not-so-non-partisan interim Governor, at a time when the most left-wing Labour government in forty years is trying to relay the foundations of the New Zealand economy? What could possibly go wrong?

And there it is; the driest list ever.
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39.Reubin Askew Democratic 1977-1981
40.Howard Baker Republican 1981-1989
Mario Cuomo Democratic 1989-1993
Collin Powell 1993-2001
Bill Bradly Democratic 2001-2009
Ted Cruz Republican 2009-2013
Harold Ford J.r. Democratic 2013-


The Most Kiwi Aussie of them all
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Caygill Exercises or: If Roger Douglas Had Resigned

Governors of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand
1982 - 1984: Dick Wilks (Keynesian) [1]
1984 - 1988: Graham Scott (Caygillite) [2]
1988 - 1993: Donald Brash (Austrian) [3]
1993 - 2003: Alan Bollard (Orthodox) [4]
2003 - 2008: Mark Prebble (Orthodox)
2008 - 2011: Roger Kerr (Caygillite) [5]
2011 - 2018: John Key (Caygillite/Orthodox) [6]
2018 - 0000: Gareth Morgan (Keynesian/???) [7]

And there it is; the driest list ever.

Jesus, this is niche. I'm kind of in awe.

Presumably in the absence of Key and Brash, Rod Carr has gone into the National Party.

Charles EP M.

Well-known member
Published by SLP
1957 - 1963: John Profumo (Conservative)

1963: Ernest Marples (Conservative)

1963 - 1973: James Callaghan (Labour)

1973 - 1976: Jeremy Thorpe (One-Nation Liberals)

1976 - 1978: Geoffrey Howe (One-Nation Liberals)

1978 - 1993: Peter Shore (Labour)

The shock of the Keeler Affair forces an early election and a national revolt against 'that sort of thing', and things are only made worse when the newly formed One-Nation Liberals, the party promising social liberalism and a reformed economy in the face of the socially conservative/left-economy Labour and very very conservative Conservatives, suffers from the Scott Affair. A version of Labour that's left on economy and right on social issues & nationalism becomes the 'party of government' in a Britain detached from Europe and seething with social tension.

Whether it all changes in the 1990s depends on if John Major's One-Nation Liberals can come to an accord with the left-wing Democratic Party and their leader, Tony Blair...
If Joe had survived w.w.2

36.Richard M. Nixon Republican Henry Cabot Lodge 1961-1965

Def. Joe Kennedy j.r. Democratic George Smathers 1960

37. Lyndon Baines Johnson Democratic Hubert Horatio Humphrey 1965-1969
Def, Richard M. Nixon Republican Henry Cabot Lodge 1961-1965

38. Nelson Rockefeller Republican John Tower 1969-1977
Def. Hubert Humphrey Democratic Terry Sanders 1968.
Def. Terry Sanders Democratic Wilbur Miles 1972
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Tsar of New Zealand

Incredibly Stale Bants
The Bureaucracy
Jesus, this is niche. I'm kind of in awe.

Presumably in the absence of Key and Brash, Rod Carr has gone into the National Party.
Cheers - I wanted to do a list with some kind of originality, so decided to go full wonk. Possibly I overcompensated and was too original.

Actually, now that you mention it, I can imagine Rod Carr as a Blunkett figure for the Nats.


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(This list is based on a prompt by Mumby on AH.com, unfortunately it's in the test threads section, so only those with accounts can access it, but the whole initial prompt is reproduced here)

Extremism in defence of liberty

President of the United States of America

1977-1980: Jimmy Carter (Democratic)
1976 (with Walter Mondale) def. Gerald Ford (Republican)
1980-1981: vacant (Bipartisan Congressional Committee)
1981-1983: Kingman Brewster Jr. (Republican - Acting)
Appointed in 1981 by Congressional Committee
1983-1987: Alexander Haig (Nonpartisan)
1982 (with William Rucklehaus) def. Mike Gravel (Democratic), Pete Wilson (Republican), Fred Trump (Independent)
1987-1991: Alexander Haig (Law and Order)
1986 (with Barry Goldwater Jr.) def. John V. Tunney (Democratic), Pete Wilson (Republican)
1989 Oliver North appointed Vice President

1991-1995: Pat Buchanan (Law and Order)
1990 (with Mike Pence) def. Ted Turner (Independent), Denise Giardina (Mountain), John V. Tunney (Pacific), other minor local candidacies
1995-1996: Mike Gravel (United Citizens' Liberation Front)
1995 (with John McCain) def. Pat Buchanan (Law and Order)

President of the United States Congress

1996-2000: Mike Gravel (Citizens' Movement)
1996 (Majority) def. Oliver North (Law and Order), Ron Paul (Liberty), Kingman Brewster Jr. (Moderate), Denise Giardina (People's)
2000-2008: Ron Paul (Liberty)
2000 (Coalition with Moderates and People's) def. Mike Gravel (Citizens' Movement), Oliver North (Continuity L&O)
2004 (Coalition with Moderates) def. Mike Gravel (Citizens' Movement), Richard Carroll (People's)

2008-2009: Mike Gravel (Broad Left)
2008 (Coalition with People's) def. Ron Paul (Liberty), Blanche Lincoln (Moderate)
2009-2010: Rocky Anderson (Broad Left coalition with People's)
2010-2018: David Koch (Liberty)
2010 (Coalition with Moderate and National Populist) def. Rocky Anderson (Broad Left and People's)
2014 (Coalition with National Populist) def. Sandi Jackson (United We Stand), Kyrsten Sinema (People Power), David Frum (Moderate)

2018-0000: Barbara Haig (Stand Up America)
2018 (Minority) def. Kyrsten Sinema (People Power), Tulsi Gabbard ('Gravel' UWS), David Frum (Moderate and Liberals), Sandi Jackson ('Chicago' UWS), David Koch ('Right' Liberty)
2019 Executive Powers Act, limiting congressional control over the calling of elections

"The 1970s ended with a bang as the FALN successfully bombed both the Democratic and Republican conventions, killing not only the expected nominees of both parties but also a great deal of the line of succession and other competitors in the presidential race. For now, government has been directly assumed by Congress, running the nation through committee. With only a few short months til the presidential election, questions are being asked if it should even proceed with so little time for the selection of nominees and then campaign. Meanwhile the FBI has come under fire for its failures in pursuing the FALN - the attack was only a possible thanks to the supervision of Willy Morales, who escaped from prison despite having blown both of his hands off in a botched bomb building session prior to his apprehension. Charges have been quietly dropped against those responsible for the excesses of the notorious Squad 47 - in times such as these, a little excessive enthusiasm in the pursuit of law and order seems no bad thing. The vigilantism of Squad 47 finds a political voice in Al Haig's pledge to run for President and "carry forward Reagan's legacy."

(The initial prompt)

After a deadlock over a number of more eligible candidates (in particular Reublicans and Democrats are split over asking former President Nixon to step in), Ambassador to the UK and former Yale President Kingman Brewster Jr. is appointed Acting President by Congress, partly due to his success in managing civil disobedience. He presides over a delayed election in 1982 as two former non-entities spared by their non-attendance at the conventions duke it out for the presidency, only to be defeated by Haig, who enters late after his failure to secure the GOP nomination.

Haig's crackdown on domestic dissent is shocking and widespread, with paramilitaries openly endorsed by the White House, and the FBI reorganised with other elements into the vast and overbearing National Security Directorate. The people love it. Order is restored, and the "national nightmare" of the 1960s and 1970s comes to an end with financial deregulation, a return to military buildup, and the imposition of order. Left-wing politics are forced underground.

Haig wins again in '86 on his new Law and Order party's ticket, and though Vice President Goldwater resigns over a further crackdown on civil liberties, things continue apace. Martial Law is finally lifted in Puerto Rico in 1990 as the Cold War comes to a head with the collapse of the USSR and China into first nuclear war and then nuclear civil wars. The US turns inward as Eurasia is drowned in fire, and Haig takes advantage of a series of anti-Government bombings in California to further expand his power. When he steps down after two terms, his successor, Senator Pat Buchanan, is faced only by a handful of localist campaigns, chief amongst them those of Ted Turner and Denise Giardina (which win in New York and West Virginia respectively) and John Tunney (who narrowly fails to win in California).

Underground, however, the United Citizens' Liberation Front grows in the Buchanan years, and after the riots of '93, its leader, former Presidential candidate and political prisoner Mike Gravel announces his intention to run for President. In an election campaign characterised by clashes between Gravel's supporters and right-wing militias, the firebrand former Senator wins out and wins power. He brings sweeping reform to America, rolling back the security state and decentralising power. The second constitutional convention even transforms America into a parliamentary democracy.

But this new state is rocked by tension too, and its PR system produces a series of unstable coalitions alternating between leadership by Gravel's left libertarians and Ron Paul's rightist Liberty party. When both of these parties split into a "moderate" and "nationalist" faction (in Liberty's case) and a faction around former President Gravel and the corrupt Sandi Jackson (in the case of UWS) the populist green 'People Power' party and the successor to Law and Order (Stand Up America) emerge as the two largest parties. Now, with 39% of the vote and a plurality of the seats, Haig's daughter has formed a new government, and with the passage of an Executive Powers Act transferring power away from Congress, and a new 'National Security Act' currently doing the rounds, the old days of Haigist 'Law and Order' politics don't seem so far gone...


Just wait until I actually get my shit together
The Place Beyond The Pines
Intermountain Members of the Executive Council of Governors:

1975-1979: Cecil D. Andrus (D - ID)
1979-1983: Thomas Lee Judge (D - MT)
1983-1987: Richard Lamm (D - CO)
1987-1991: Richard Bryan (D - NV)
1991-1995: Cecil D. Andrus (D - ID)

1995-1999: Jim Geringer (R - WY)
1999-2003: Marc Racicot (R - MT)
2003-2007: Kenny Guinn (R - NV)

2007-2011: Dave Freudenthal (D - WY)
2011-2015: Matt Mead (R - WY)
2015-2019: Brian Sandoval (R - NV)
2019-: Mark Gordon (R - WY)
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You're a real cold sonofabitch, Gunga Din
Published by SLP
Albany, NY
It’s a dystopia, this is an ATL that can’t even spell a black woman’s name right when she’s the most powerful person in the world.
Don't be mean.

@bionic_man are you writing these on your phone? And not to sound awful but is English your first language? The lists would be easier to read if you formatted them using the tools at the top of the textbox like Coloring. And write ups are good and useful too. I think I see where you were going by using Lovecraft as a President but its hard to quite get what the differences are in what might be a dictatorship? Or just a very racist Social Democracy?
1932-1972: H.P. Lovecraft (Socialists)

1972-1992: Shirley Chisholm(peoples)

1,In this world,H.p. Lovecraft did not become a horror writer as in real life. In this tl. Lovecraft became a journalist and obsessed with immigrants and very racist to words them . In 1932 America was in a severe depression .Love craft defeated both FDR and Hoover pledging to end the depression. although the recession did end America became a fascist state.

2.After many years of fascism the people rose up and over thre the government in a 2nd world war.1972 was first free elction since 1932.
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napoleon IV

No, no, no. This is beautiful. This is art.
Would it be helpful if someone showed you what a formatted version of that list would look like?

Presidents of the United States of America

1932-1972: H.P. Lovecraft (Socialist)
1972-1992: Shirley Chisholm (Peoples')

And then in this section you talk about what happened in this scenario, and show why this is a dystopic America.


I was hospitalized for approaching perfection
Tampa, FL
I’ve got a gimmicky write-up on the way, but here’s the list (for now);

Presidents of the United States, 1961 - present:
1961 - 1965: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Republican)

defeated, 1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1965 - 1969: George Wallace / Frank Lausche (Democratic)
defeated, 1964: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1969 - 1977: Gerald Ford / Howard Baker (Republican)
defeated, 1968: Frank Church / Ryan DeGraffenreid (Democratic), George Wallace / Frank Lausche ('American' Independent), Robert Scheer / Bill Moyer (Peace)
defeated, 1972: Jesse Unruh / Bill Proxmire (Democratic), George Wallace / Jim Johnson (American)

1977 - 1985: Birch Bayh / Reubin Askew (Democratic)
defeated, 1976: Bud Wilkinson / Melvin Laird (Republican)
defeated, 1980: Eliot Richardson / Nelson Gross (Republican)

1985 - 1989: Reubin Askew / John Brademas (Democratic)
defeated, 1984: Jack Kemp / Bill Saxbe (Republican)
1989 - 1993: Bob Dornan / Connie Marshner (Republican)
defeated, 1988: Reubin Askew / John Brademas (Democratic)
1993 - 1997: Jim McDermott / Bob Armstrong (Democratic)
defeated, 1992: Bob Dornan / Connie Marshner (Republican)
1997 - 2005: T. Boone Pickens / George Voinovich (Republican)
defeated, 1996: Jim McDermott / Bob Armstrong (Democratic)
defeated, 2000: Evelyn Murphy / Dave McCurdy (Democratic)

2005 - 2009: Jeff Bell / Tom Davis (Republican)
defeated, 2004: Eliot Spitzer / Evan Bayh (Democratic), Paul Soglin / Noam Chomsky (Independent)
2009 - 2013: Paul Soglin / Gloria Tristani (Democratic)
defeated, 2008: Mike Bloomberg / various (Independent), Jeff Bell / Tom Davis (Republican)
2013 - 2017: Joe Biden / Charlie Crist (National Unity)
defeated, 2012: Andrew Napolitano / Matt Bevin (Republican), Paul Soglin / Gloria Tristani (Independent Democratic)
2017 - 2021: Paul Soglin / Carmen Yulín Cruz (Democratic)
defeated, 2016: Matt Bevin / Joe Heck (Republican), Joe Biden / Charlie Crist (National Unity)
2021 - 2021: Carmen Yulín Cruz / Eric Garcetti (Democratic)
defeated, 2020: Ken Paxton / Carly Fiorina (Republican), Joe Biden / Phil Gordon (Unity)
2021 - present: Mike Pence / vacant (Republican)
bionic man is definitely making me consider writing a Deus Ex-verse presidents list, so there is that. But it'll probably never see daylight and I'm a little wary of writing for a universe which accepts a lot of conspiracy lore as fact anyway, particularly the world being secretly run by [[globalist businesspeople]].

It's really a Trumppunk game two decades early. It even has a far-right insurgency in the north west. For years I thought that made fuck-all sense, but now I'm less sure.
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You're a real cold sonofabitch, Gunga Din
Published by SLP
Albany, NY
It's really a Trumppunk game two decades early. It even has a far-right insurgency in the north west. For years I thought that made fuck-all sense, but now I'm less sure.
NEW Prompt

Two weeks from now let's see what eveyone delivers for

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unfinished basement
NEW Prompt

Two weeks from now let's see what eveyone delivers for

Eagle Creek Fire gets out of hand in 2017, everybody dies, my buddy Jim from Metro emergency preparedness rebuilds the city out of earthquake resistant flexible wood laminate and requires everyone to wear hard hats at all times


This is how I win
Thinking about doing an Algeria as an independent commonwealth within the French Union framework independent in the late 40s- early 50s in a "communism semi-wins in continental Europe but a bit more nuanced" scenario*. The semi-permanent PCF- SFIO majority governs France, grants independence - after much agitation from the Algerians and increasing pressure from the Soviet Union- to Algeria and other African colonies as a "fraternal republic" of sorts. Would be an interesting subject to ponder next couple months.

Chef d'État du République Populaire d'Algérie
1949 - 1957 Ferhat Abbas (Front Nationale Démocratique Algérien; UDMA-PCA-SAIO-AOMA Coalition (1949- 1953))

defeated, 1949: Messali Hadj (Parti Populare Algérien), Henri Fouques-Duparc (Rassemblement des Republicains et Paysans pour l'Algérie Française)
1953: "The National Democratic Front takes the leading role in the governance of the republic"

1957 - 1961 Krim Belkacem (Front Nationale Démocratique Algérien)
1961 - 1964 Hocine Aït Ahmed (Front Nationale Démocratique Algérien => Parti de la Révolution Socialiste (1963- 1964))
1964 - 1965 Ahmed Ben Bella (Parti Populaire Arabe - Association des Oulémas Musulmans Algériens Coalition)

defeated, 1964: Henri Alleg (Parti Communiste Algérien), Hocine Aït Ahmed (Parti de la Révolution Socialiste), Jean-Jacques Susini (Parti Démocrate)

Chef d'État du République Algérienne Démocratique et Populaire
1967 - 1973 Bachir Hadj Ali (Parti Communiste Algérien)
- 1976 Henri Alleg (Parti Communiste Algérien)
1976 - 1991 Sadek Hadjeres
(Parti Communiste Algérien)
1991 - 1995 Mohammed Harbi (Parti Communiste Algérien)

*Don't want to do "Soviet just liberates the whole of Europe" thing as Meet the New Boss did, for example. Henry Wallace presidency? Soviet troops at the Rhine? No De Gaulle figure? Even more comprehensive Vichy collaboration that just destroys the political right?