Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

[Time Enough]

I couldn't resist. @Sideways , its a requirement I put Arthur Webber in future TLs , yeah ?

Always, yes. The little McDonnellite that could and all that (also he needs to eventually find out that folks on the internet are including him in Timelines).

Benali Hamdache (who might be something like DPM, though the Greens may insist on two) too

He seems cool, his facial hair is on point too.

 

[Bolt451]

Always, yes. The little McDonnellite that could and all that (also he needs to eventually find out that folks on the internet are including him in Timelines).

I told him I might do it in Ready for Government . He was flattered

 

[Time Enough]

I told him I might do it in Ready for Government . He was flattered

Heheheheh, amazing. I may use him in my eventual Green Left timeline, which is after Gould.

 

[Bolt451]

Heheheheh, amazing. I may use him in my eventual Green Left timeline, which is after Gould.

BTW its a fair assumption that Pollard had shifted a bit to the left or Webber to the right before becoming PM

 

[Time Enough]

BTW its a fair assumption that Pollard had shifted a bit to the left or Webber to the right before becoming PM

I like the idea of Pollard going slightly to the Left instead of the Little McDonellite becoming a Brownite.

 

[Sideways]

I couldn't resist. @Sideways , its a requirement I put Arthur Webber in future TLs , yeah ?

Can confirm, Arthur Webber is prime minister in all possible universes

 

[Time Enough]

Can confirm, Arthur Webber is prime minister in all possible universes

Arthur Webber; The Trans Dimensional Prime Minister

(Boooo)

*Cue being beaten with pool cues*

 

[Bolt451]

Arthur Webber; The Trans Dimensional Prime Minister

(Boooo)

*Cue being beaten with pool cues*

The pool cues have tiny trans pride flags on the end

 

[Bolt451]

Def 2047: Emma Mi (Conservative) Alex Dunham* (Lib Dem) Benali Hamdache/Lily Fitzgibbon (GPEW) Aodhán Ó hAdhmaill (Sinn Fein) Carla Lockhart (DUP) Michael Blackman* (Reform) Cariad Jones* (Plaid Cymru) Luke Patterson (Alliance) Michael O’Brien* (UUP)

I was a bit overeliant on members of Youth wings of parties. Means that most of these people are in their late 40s early 50s. You might still see younger current MPs who are around 30 in party leadership

There was a partially constructed writeup of all of this but I think the list is self explanatory

 

[Mumby]

Campaign for Real Revolution

1970-1973: Reginald Maudling (Conservative)
1970 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1973-1975: Quintin Hogg (Conservative majority)
1975-1976: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1975 (Coalition with Liberals) def. Quintin Hogg (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1976-1980: Roy Jenkins (Labour-Liberal coalition)
1980-1994: Keith Joseph (Conservative)
1980 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Fenner Brockway, Baron Brockway (Independent Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Reform), Cyril Smith (Centre), Tony Benn (Independent Labour)
1989 (Majority) def. Peter Hain [Prime Minister-designate] (Popular Front - Independent Labour, Greens, Liberals), David Owen (Reform), Ian Gilmour (One Nation)
1994 (Majority) def. Peter Hain [Prime Minister-designate] (Popular Front - Independent Labour, Greens, Liberals), David Owen / Michael Heseltine (Alliance - Reform, One Nation)
1994-1995: Norman Tebbit (Conservative majority)
1995-2000: John Redwood (Conservative)
1995 (Majority) def. David Alton (Alliance), Roger Protz / Derek Wall / Hilary Wainwright (Popular Front - Independent Labour, Greens, Liberals) [abstentionist]
2000 election cancelled amidst Millennium Bug Crisis
2000-present: Second British Civil War

2000-2001: David Richards (British Army)

2003-2006: Ian Paisley (British Covenant)

2007-present: Roger Protz, de jure / collective, de facto (Popular Assembly of the New Commonwealth)

Please note, leaders prior to 2000 are Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. Post-2000, the leaders are those who controlled a majority of the landmass of Great Britain.

 

[lerk]

Campaign for Real Revolution

What happened here?

 

[Time Enough]

2007-present: Roger Protz, de jure / collective, de facto (Popular Assembly of the New Commonwealth)

Green Socialism and Real Ale for All!

 

[Mumby]

What happened here?

 

[Bolt451]

2007-present: Roger Protz, de jure / collective, de facto (Popular Assembly of the New Commonwealth)

I actually had to google this guy, phresh

 

[AlfieJ]

millennium bug crisis

 

[Bolt451]

David Owen (Reform)

Maybe my fave bit. Even as a popular front is being formed. Owen is still an awkward bastard.

 

[Nyvis]

Maybe my fave bit. Even as a popular front is being formed. Owen is still an awkward bastard.

Yeah the Liberals lurching left to join the popular front as Reform lurch right to join with One Nation Tory defectors is quite funny.

Also bittersweet because while the build up probably sucks for everyone involved the result might be worth it. Oh well that's the risk with AH.

 

[Mumby]

and a much, much lazier US presidents list to accompany that

1969-1972: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1968 (with Spiro Agnew) def. Hubert Humphrey (Democratic), George Wallace (American Independent)
1972-1973: Spiro Agnew (Republican)
1973-1975: John V. Lindsay (Independent)
1972 (with Tom McCall) def. George Wallace (American Independent), Spiro Agnew (Republican), Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) [suspended campaign]
1975-1981: John V. Lindsay (National Liberal)
1976 (with Adlai Stevenson III) def. George Wallace (American Independent), Frank Church (Democratic), Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1981-1989: William Westmoreland (United Conservative)
1980 (with Sam Yorty) def. Adlai Stevenson III (National Liberal), Mike Gravel (Democratic)
1984 (with Sam Yorty) def. Gary Hart (Democratic), numerous Liberal candidacies
1989-1997: John K. Singlaub (United Conservative)
1988 (with Peter Ueberroth) def. Lee Iacocca (Independent), Jesse Jackson (Democratic)
1992 (with Peter Ueberroth) def. John Sculley (Independent)
1997-2000: Oliver North (United Conservative)
1996 (with Clint Eastwood) def. Colin Powell (Independent)
2000-2001: Clint Eastwood (United Conservative)
2001-2005: Colin Powell (Independent)
2000 (with John McCain) def. Clint Eastwood (United Conservative), Oliver North (faithless electors)
2005-0000: John Lewis (New Democratic)
2004 (with Jim Jeffords) def. Wesley Clark (Heartland), Meg Whitman (Independent), Rick Perry (Union)

 

[rosa]

1933 - 1937: Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1936 (with John Nance Garner) def. President Herbert Hoover (Republican)

1937 - 1941: Senator Alf Landon (Republican)
1936 (with Frank Knox) def. President Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic), Senator Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive)

1941 - 1943: Senator Huey P. Long (Democratic)
1940 (with James F. Byrnes) def. President Alf Landon (Republican), Fmr. Vice President John Nance Garner (Independent Democratic)
1943 - 1945: Vice President James F. Byrnes (Democratic)

1945 - 1948: Businessman Wendell Wilkie (Republican)
1944 (with Harlan J. Bushfield) def. President James Byrnes (Democratic), Fmr. President Huey P. Long (Independent)
1948 - 1949: Senator Arthur Vandenberg (Republican)

1949 - 1952: Fmr. President Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1948 (with John W. Bricker) def. Fmr. President Franklin D. Roosevelt (Social Contract), Fmr. President James Byrnes (Democratic), , Fmr. President Huey P. Long (Kingfish), Fmr. President Alf Landon (Midwest Progressive), Fmr. Vice President John Nance Garner (Write-in)

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[Thande]

Vague thought I had for a challenge: a list made up entirely of forgettable politicians being PM or president (some British examples might be Michael Stewart, Tom King and Bill Rodgers; John Thune springs to mind in the US). Maybe with the twist that in TTL they all have exciting and surprising premierships.