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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State


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Exactly. In the latter case I even had to completely throw out a whole section of continuity because I accidentally wrote two different multi-post lead-ups to that joke and duplicated a character bio.

Nah, never your fault if you don't know an obscure running gag!

I kept it deliberately vague, but it's playing on ideas others have previously posted about the Republican/Progressive split coupled to the OTL Republican dominance of the 1920s reducing the Democrats to virtually a southern-interests party only, and then a Huey Long Depression dictatorship discredits even that while empowering the Socialists as a third force. (I was thinking of how the Communists in France benefited from being seen to be a major force of opposition to Vichy/the Occupation). Then the scandal in the 1970s happens because, after one Socialist victory, it turns out the Republicans and Progressives had been conspiring to force every election to the House and vote for each others' candidate in turn (hence the Turno Pacifico comparison to 19th century Spain) in order to deny the Socialists another victory. This predictably ruins both of the right-wing parties and leads to a period of Socialist dominance. (I went for a bit of irony where Nixon is the idealistic outsider who almost manages to keep his party viable in the wake of a 1970s scandal that robs the public of confidence in politicians...) The other bit of irony, inspired by real events in places like Maine and Australia, is that as soon as they implement a French two-round system, the country turns into a two-party setup so it never actually needs the second round anyway. As of the end of the century, the US has an economic consensus that lies to the left of OTL's, in part because the former Progressive strand of thought has tended to dominate over the Republican one in the New Conservative party, and the Socialists are a credible party of government. However, the states are also more powerful relative to the federal government due to lingering suspicion after the Long dictatorship's centralisation of power.
how do the democrats and republicans just come up again at the end

or is that the joke


ITV versus the Racists
List of Presidents of the United States since 1900
1897-1901: William McKinley† (Republican)
1896 def: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1900 def: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)

1901-1909: Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1904 def: Alton B. Parker (Democratic)
1909-1913: William Howard Taft (Republican)
1908 def: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1913-1917: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1912 def: Champ Clark (Democratic), William Howard Taft (Republican), Eugene V. Debs (Socialist)
1913: Constitutional Amendment XVI: Federal income tax reform
1916: Constitutional Amendment XVII: Direct election of U.S. Senators

1917-1921: Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
1916 def: Lewis S. Chanler (Democratic), Charles W. Fairbanks (Republican), James H. Maurer (Socialist)
1919: Constitutional Amendment XVIII: Female suffrage
1921-1925: Frank O. Lowden (Republican)
1920 def: Hiram Johnson (Progressive), Atlee Pomerene (Northern Democratic), M. Hoke Smith (Southern Democratic), Emil Seidel (Socialist)
1921: Constitutional Amendment XIX: Prohibition of hard liquor/strong alcoholic drinks
1925-1928: Robert M. La Follette Sr.† (Progressive)
1924 def: Frank O. Lowden (Republican), Eugene V. Debs (Socialist), Ellison D. Smith (Southern Democratic), Royal S. Copeland (Northern Democratic)
1928-1929: Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive)
1929-1944: Huey Long† (National Action)
1928 def: William H. Thompson (Republican), Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive), Vito Marcantonio (Socialist)
1930: Constitutional Amendment XX: Centralisation of presidential power; repeal of XVII Amendment; reform of Supreme Court
1932 def: John J. Pershing (Republican), Robert M. La Follette Jr. (Progressive), various write-in votes for banned parties
1936 def: Herbert Hoover (United for Freedom, campaigned in absentia from exile)
1940 def: (officially unopposed)

1944-1945: Adm. Ernest King (independent, military caretaker)
1945-1953: Herbert Hoover (Progressive)
1944 def: Norman Thomas (Socialist), Arthur B. Langlie (Republican), various minor candidates
1945: Constitutional Amendment XXI: Repeal of XX Amendment; President limited to a single six-year term without re-election
1948 def: Upton Sinclair (Socialist), Roscoe H. Patterson (Republican), Ernest "Fritz" Hollings (States' Rights)
1953-1959: Daniel Hoan (Socialist)
1952 def: Earl Warren (Progressive), Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican), Ernest "Fritz" Hollings (States' Rights)
1957: Constitutional Amendment XXII: Voting rights guarantee and enforcement; permits statehood for DC
1959-1965: Earl Warren (Progressive)
1958 def: J. Sherwood Dixon (Republican), Stephen Emery (Socialist) following contingent vote in House of Representatives
1965-1971: Walter Judd (Republican)
1964 def: Hugh Scott (Progressive), Georgia Cozzini (Socialist) following contingent vote in House of Representatives
1971-1972: Mark Hatfield (Progressive); resigned following exposure of the Turno Pacifico scandal
1970 def: Georgia Cozzini (Socialist), Paul Laxalt (Republican)
1972-1973: Richard Schweiker (Progressive, caretaker)
1972: Constitutional Amendment XXIII: Allows for an early presidential election to be called on three-quarter majority vote of Congress
1973-1979: Georgia Cozzini (Socialist)
1972 def: Richard Nixon (Republican), Pete McCloskey (Progressive)
1974: Constitutional Amendment XXIV: Abolishes electoral college in favour of a two-round runoff system

1979-1985: Eugene McCarthy (Socialist)
1978 def: John B. Anderson (New Conservative), Richard B. Ogilvie (Continuity Progressive), Max Rafferty (Continuity Republican)
1985-1991: Lowell Weicker (New Conservative)
1984 def: Jarvis Tyner (Socialist)
1991-1997: Bernard Sanders (Socialist)
1990 def: Pete Wilson (New Conservative)
1997-2003: George Pataki (New Conservative)
1996 def: David McReynolds (Socialist)
2003-2009: Joshua Javits (Socialist)
2002 def: Jim Jeffords (New Conservative)
2009-2017: Barack Obama (Democratic)
2008 def: John McCain (Republican)
2012 def: W. Mitt Romney (Republican)

I'm not sorry.
Counselor to the President - Gary Hart's Son-in-Law

Time Enough

"Enthusiastic Cis Male Partner"
Saucer Attack ‘47:

President of the United States:
1945: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)†

1944 (With Harry S.Truman) def: Thomas Dewey (Republican), Norman Thomas (Socialist Party of America)
1945-1947: Harry S.Truman (Democratic)†
1947-1953: Douglas MacArthur (National Government of Salvation)

*1948 Elections Cancelled due to National Crisis*
1953-1957: Glen H.Taylor (National Union)
1952 (With Harold Stassen) def: Strom Thurmond (American Independence Party), Jasper McLevy (Democratic Socialist American Party), Harry Haywood-Gus Hall (CPUSA)
1957-1961: Glen H.Taylor (Progressive)
1956 (With Walter Reuther) def: Harold Stassen (National Union), Strom Thurmond (AIP), Darlington Hoopes (DSPA), Gus Hall (CPUSA), Robert Heinlein (SPACE!)
1961-1965: Walter Reuther (Progressive)
1960 (With Adam Clayton Powell Jr.) def: Harold Stassen (National Union), George Wallace (AIP), Frank Zeidler (DSPA), Gus Hall (CPUSA), Robert Heinlein (SPACE!)
1965-: Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (National Union)
1964 (With Stuart Symington) def: Walter Reuther (Progressive), George Wallace (AIP), Dorothy Ray Healey (DSPA), Gus Hall (CPUSA), Robert Heinlein (SPACE!)

Prime Ministers of Great Britain:
1945-1947: Clement Attlee (Labour)†

1945 (Majority) def: Winston Churchill (Conservative), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Ernst Brown (National Liberal), Harry Pollitt (CPGB)
1947-1951: Emmanuel Shillwell-Harold MacMillian (National Unity)
1951-1954: Geoffrey de Freitas (National Unity-National Labour)

1951 (‘National’ Coalition) def: Harold Macmillan (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal), Nye Bevan (Socialist Labour), Richard Acland (Peace & Democracy), Harry Pollitt (CPGB), John Wyndham (PROTECT)
1954-1958: John Profumo (National Unity)
1954 (Majority) def: Nye Bevan (Socialist Labour), Micheal Foot (Peace Democrats), Phil Piratin (CPGB), Enoch Powell (PROTECT)
1958-1962: Jennie Lee (Socialist Labour)
1958 (Coalition with Peace Democrats) def: John Profumo (National Unity), Micheal Foot (Peace Democrats), Phil Piratin (CPGB), Enoch Powell (PROTECT)
1962-1966: Tony Benn (National Unity)
1962 (Majority) def: Jennie Lee-Micheal Foot (Democratic Labour Coalition), Phil Piratin (CPGB), Enoch Powell (PROTECT)
1966-: Frank Allaun (Democratic Labour)
1966 (Majority) def: Tony Benn (National Unity), John Peck (CPGB), Enoch Powell (PROTECT)

General Secretaries of the Soviet Union (Communist):
1928-1947: Joseph Stalin†

1947-1948: Andrei Zhdanov†
1948-1957: Georgy Malenkov

1957-: Alexei Kosygin

1947, the year the Saucers came and attacked.

Chaos ensued as all the capital cities were consumed by alien death rays. The saucers would be defeated not long after, once the surprise wore off they would be defeated using a mixture of nuclear weapons in America and conventional artillery elsewhere. In the aftermath it’s about rebuilding yet again.

The folksy Progressive charm and Anti-Alien rhetoric allows Glen H.Taylor to dominate the 50s, the National Unity coalition becomes the party of choice for Britain with it’s Third Way, Reformist, Technocratic and Corporatist charm against the Libertarian Christian Socialism of the Peace Democrats and the Bevanite Democratic Socialism of Socialist Labour during the 50s. The Soviet Union deals with the death of Stalin and his chosen successor Zhdanov as Malenkov, Kosygin and Zukhov spend the 50s bickering between each other and in America and Britain the rise in Protectionist, Social Credit influenced and determined to take the fight to the Aliens in the SPACE! and PROTECT parties.

Now it’s twenty years since the random saucer attack. Britain has slid into the Non-Aligned Pact under Frank Allaun and the Democratic Labour Party with the plan to send a Non-Aligned Alliance into Space to fight the aliens, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr is planning to bring America into a Space age with there own vessels and the Soviet Union had plans for a fleet for nuclear power shuttles to take the moon and Mars. All whilst cool gaze of the alien’s looks upon of Earth and plans for a second go around.


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haha hows rexit going

1970-1982: Ted Heath (Conservative)
1970 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974 (Coalition with Liberals) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), William Wolfe (Scottish National), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1975 EEC referendum; 69% YES, 31% NO
1979 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Enoch Powell (National Unionist), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), William Wolfe (Scottish National), Dick Taverne (Democratic Labour)

1982-1984: Robert Carr (Conservative majority)
1984-1990: Denis Healey (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Robert Carr (Conservative), Colin Jordan (National Action), David Penhaligon (Liberal), Winnie Ewing (Scottish National), Enoch Powell (National Unionist)
1988 (Majority) def. Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), David Penhaligon (Liberal), Winnie Ewing (Scottish National), Ian Paisley Sr. (Ulster Unionist), John Tyndall (National Action)

1990-1998: David Owen (Labour)
1993 (Majority) def. Kenneth Clarke (Conservative), Des Wilson (Liberal), Ian Paisley Sr. (Ulster Unionist), Winnie Ewing (Scottish National)
1998-2008: Chris Patten (Conservative)
1998 (Minority, with SNP confidence and supply) def. David Owen (Labour), Peter Hain (Liberal), Winnie Ewing (Scottish National), Ian Paisley Sr. (Ulster Unionist)
2002 (Majority) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Peter Hain (Liberal), Ian Paisley Sr. (Ulster Unionist)
2007 (Majority) def. Graham Stringer (Labour), Caroline Lucas (Liberal), Ian Paisley Sr. (Ulster Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

2008-2012: Tim Collins (Conservative majority)
2012-2018: David Miliband (Labour)
2012 (Coalition with Liberals) def. Tim Collins (Conservative & Ulster Unionist), Caroline Lucas (Liberal), Ian Paisley Jr. (Unionist Vanguard), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
2017 (Majority) def. Nick Clegg (Conservative), Sammy Wilson (Unionist Vanguard), Caroline Lucas (Liberal), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein), Tim Collins (Ulster Unionist)
2018 EU referendum; 55% LEAVE, 45% REMAIN

2018-2021: Yvette Cooper (Labour)
2019 (Majority, thanks to Sinn Fein parliamentary abstention) def. Michael Gove (Conservative), Sammy Wilson (Unionist Vanguard), Stephen Grey (Liberal), Michelle O'Neill (Sinn Fein)
2021-0000: John Prescott (Labour)
2021 (Majority) def. Michael Gove (Conservative), Olly Grender (Liberal), Sammy Wilson (Unionist Vanguard), Michelle O'Neill (Sinn Fein)

Simple idea this; reversing the polarity on Europe between Labour and Conservatives. It is basically an analogue list in many respects, I deliberately aimed for Labour and Conservatives to alternate power in a many similar though not identical to OTL.

Unseen in this list, due to its lack of parliamentary presence, is No2EU - the locus of Eurosceptic feeling in Britain following the implosion of the far-right in the 1980s. The party's surge in the late '00s led inexorably to the 2018 referendum. Since then the party has sank into the doldrums, under succeeding increasingly irrelevant leaders. A second life of sorts exists in Douglas Carswell's GO! Coalition, which has been credited with laundering once firm Tory voters in the Shires into Labour voters in 2021.
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'An act of sabotage against the party'[1]: If Hattersley had lost 1988

Leaders of the Labour Party

1983-1989: Neil Kinnock [2]
Bryan Gould [3]
1999-2019: Peter Hain

Deputy Leaders of the Labour Party

1983-1988: Roy Hattersley
1988-2000: John Prescott
2000-2010: Joan Ruddock
2010-2019: Paul Boateng

[2] The TGWU's decision to endorse Benn/Prescott on a knife edge vote in June 1988 [2.1] following Kinnock's 'something for nothing' comments on unilateralism, turned what had previously been seen as a frustrating and futile distraction for the party leadership into a serious threat to the 'Dream Ticket''s very authority and future. Initial warnings that Hattersley's majority within the party was too close to comfort declined into a very real fear that he would lose completely. While Benn and Heffer's challenge was a non-starter either among MPs, trade unions or naturally loyal party members, Prescott appeared the viable, 'friendly' challenger, claiming no ill-will towards Kinnock, but nevertheless acting as a vessel for covert discontent towards the party leaders' march to the right, authoritarian style of party management, and now perceived desire even to abandon the semi-religious totem of unilateral nuclear disarmament. While the TGWU's 1.25 million vote endorsement of Benn and Prescott would not be enough to seal the fate of either Kinnock or Hattersley, it would mark just a trickle of discontent both among the smaller transport unions and disillusioned CLPs.

The final result was a humiliation for the party leadership. While Kinnock cruised to an easy victory on 79% of the vote, 8 points higher than his initial victory in 1983, Hattersley fell short in nail-biting fashion at the final hurdle, winning 47.4% to Prescott's 52.6% on the second ballot. [2.2] Almost immediately the right wing press drew comparisons to 1981, with similar judgements that the party had just signed its own electoral death warrant. In scenes reminscent of the chaos of 1985, Kinnock sat brooding on the conference stage, refusing to acknowledge his new Deputy or shake his hand. Long gone was the cross-party fraternal hand-holding of the Dream Ticket.

Plunged once again into a bitter depression that had hounded Kinnock since 1984, he decided to make good on his private ultimatum that if the party voted out Hattersley they would also have to find a new leader. In a short and profoundly bitter speech on the conference floor the next day, Kinnock announced that the party had ceased to take itself seriously, [2.3] and had concluded that he had better things to do with his forties and fifites than try and rehabilitate a party that had no interest in changing. The resignation sent shock waves throughout the party, causing celebration among the Bennite left and existential dread among the soft left who had voted Prescott as a protest not meant to have real, tangible, political consequences. But while Benn had hoped that this was just a beginning in Labour's long march back to socialism, the result was perceived by many to be a counter-revolutionary over-correction.

[3] Under the ever effective fixing of NUPE's deputy General Secretary Tom Sawyer, [3.1] Bryan Gould, a Kinnock loyalist and growing hero of the soft left, was thrust into the limelight as candidate for leader, squaring off against the right's ordained champion, and rumoured former anti-Kinnock plotter, John Smith. While Gould had certainly little friends within the Bennite camp, not least through his insistence that Labour had to appeal to southern suburban voters who had 'done very well' out of Thatcherism, he never the lest possessed a radical flair that convinced enough members of the Campaign Group (perhaps most surprisingly Ken Livingstone) [3.2] to join an impressively diverse coalition of the soft and hard left along with many old right Eurosceptics. In a mix of lingering loyalty to Kinnock as well as harnessing soft left discontent, Bryan Gould took the party leadership by whisker in March 1989.

Within just three years, with Kinnock's parting condemnation of a party which had ceased to take itself seriously, but had set about a course of destructive self-sabotage, still ringing in people's ears... Labour would form its first government for twelve years.

The rest, from the Maastricht referendums to the Super Ministries of Trade and Industry, the dot-com boom to the Euro-Dollar crisis, is history.

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

1979-1991: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Majority): James Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
1983 (Majority): Michael Foot (Labour), Roy Jenkins/David Steel (SDP-Liberal)
1987 (Majority): Neil Kinnock (Labour), David Owen/David Steel (SDP-Liberal)

1991-1999: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1991 (Majority): Margaret Thatcher (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (SLD), David Owen (SDP)
1992: Maastricht Treaty Referendum: No
1993: Second Maastricht Treaty Referendum: Yes
(Majority): Michael Heseltine (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (SLD), David Owen/Peter Shore (No To Europe)
1999: European Dollar Referendum: Yes

1999-2009: Peter Hain (Labour)
2000 (Coalition with SLD): Peter Lilley (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (SLD), John Mills (Save the Pound)
2004 (Coalition with SLD): John Barron (Conservative), Paddy Asdown (SLD), Lee Hurst/Virginia Ironside (Save the Pound)

2009-2016: John Barron (Conservative)
2009 (Coalition with Save the Pound): Peter Hain/Evan Harris (Labour-SLD: 'Britain In Europe' Electoral Alliance), Virginia Ironisde (Save the Pound)
2011: European Dollar Referendum: Leave
2013: (Coalition with Save the Pound): Peter Hain/Evan Harris (Labour-SLD: 'Britain In Europe' Electoral Alliance), Natascha Engel (Save the Pound)

2016: European Union Membership Referendum: Remain
2016-2019: Peter Hain (Labour)
2016 (Britain In Europe Coalition): John Barron/Natascha Engel (Conservative-Keep the Pound: Alliance for Britain)

[1]Handwritten note from Neil Kinnock regarding John Prescott's proposed deputy leadership challenge (January 1988).
[2.1] In OTL, the vote was only against nominating anyone, pushing back the final decision till September. Ultimately, despite the fact the left had a majority on the TGWU executive, General Secretary Ron Todd's decision to turn the vote into a motion of confidence in his own leadership forced the left to nominate Kinnock/Hattersley. While the chances of Prescott's challenge had already significantly declined by September, a huge surge of momentum following the endorsement of the TGWU would have likely trickled down into the decisions of other unions and of course that of CLPs. See: L. Minkin, The Contentious Alliance (1990).
[2.2] Real computer projection from during the campaign.
[2.3] 'I made it known that if he [Prescott] beat Hattersley they’d have to find another leader. Because… you know regardless of the vote for me then, it would have meant that the Labour Party wasn’t taking itself seriously and by that time I thought the least I could do was to ask the bloody party to be serious about itself' - Neil Kinnock.
[3.1] In OTL, Sawyer personally suggested Bryan Gould prepare to contest the party leadership during one of Kinnock's bouts of depression in 1989. See: B. Gould, Goodbye to All That (1995).
[3.2] Ken Livingstone and Bryan Gould developed a good working relationship during the Policy Review (1987-89). See: B. Gould, Goodbye to All That (1995).

Appendix: The First Gould Ministry

Prime Minister: Bryan Gould
Deputy Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Employment: John Prescott
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Robin Cook
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: John Smith
Secretary of State for Home Affairs: Gordon Brown
Secretary of State for Defence: Denzil Davies
Leader of the House of Commons: Gerald Kaufman
Secretary of State for Trade and Industry: Michael Meacher
Secretary of State for Education: Tony Blair
Secretary of State for Health: David Blunkett
Secretary of State for Energy: Frank Dobson
Secretary of State for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food: Jack Straw
Secretary of State for Transport: Robert Hughes
Chief Secretary to the Treasury: Ken Livingstone
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Putting that research to good use @AlfieJ - Bryan Gould often gets used (including by me) but in a sort of handwavy 'this happened, shut up' sort of way when it didn't seem that plausible, so good you've found a POD that works.
Many thanks, it was a very fun collection of documents I found at the Kinnock archive that pointed me towards this as well as Minkin's very imaginative study of what has often been a very very overlooked leadership election. The rest is just a bit of fun of what happens afterwards, but Gould does have an incredibly short moment of being 'the next Labour leader' in the eyes of many people and for very different reasons. By 1989 when he has parted ways with Kinnock over a number of policy issues any potential for him as a successor is likely lost, but 1987-88 was a real sweet spot of influence and popularity within the party.


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[2.3] 'I made it known that if he [Prescott] beat Hattersley they’d have to find another leader. Because… you know regardless of the vote for me then, it would have meant that the Labour Party wasn’t taking itself seriously and by that time I thought the least I could do was to ask the bloody party to be serious about itself' - Neil Kinnock, interview with the author.


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President Rowling is Retiring

Image and timeline stolen lovingly from @Lord Roem and @Meadow - who have been living rent-free in my head with this since 2015

2015-2019: Joanne Rowling (Labour)
2015: William Legge (UKIP) Michael Portillo (Conservatives Now) Joanne Rowling (Labour) Sir Menzies (Liberal Democrats) Charles Windsor (Green Party) Peter Tatchell (Red-Green Platform for Change) Carol Vorderman (William V Rex) Nicola Sturgeon (New Deal)
President Rowling was elected with Conservative votes in what many considered to be an establishment stitchup. The Conservatives were forced, following this, to offer a referendum on EU membership as a way to avoid polling collapse. They went on to form a government, and despite their campaign, leave won comfortably.

2017 EU Referendum: Leave (56.2%) Remain (43.8%)

Following the referendum and the appointment of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister he called a snap election. Labour campaigned on a platform of claiming to offer a harder leave than the Tories, and failed to move forwards. Following the election, and the resignation of Ed Balls as Labour leader, the party lurched unexpectedly to the left, under John McDonnell.

2019: Joanne Rowling (Labour) David Davies (Conservative) Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats) Nigel Farage (Grassroots Out!) George Monbiot (Green Party) Jack Monroe (Red-Green Platform for Change) Joanna Cherry (New Deal) Gerard Batten (UKIP) Richard Littlejohn (William V Rex)

Rowling maintained her lead by appealing largely to remainers while Farage split the leave vote, she won with a hung electoral vollege once again and votes from Jo Swinson and Joanna Cherry, securing forever the elections reputation as being the Three Scottish Jo's Election.

September 2019-January 2020: Joanne Rowling (Liberal Democrats) defection

Never happy in the McDonnelite Labour party, Rowling defected shortly after the election, citing the importance of Lib Dem votes to getting her elected and Labour's policy change. McDonnell had originally supported leave only after a People's Vote but switched to supporting Leave if Boris Johnson offered a soft Brexit.

McDonnell's change in policy was strategically useful because it further split Boris from those in his party who couldn't countenance a hard brexit. However it also caused difficulties for the Labour Party. In Setember 2020, during conference season, moderates in Labour (along with some Tories and two Lib Dems) defected to form the Democracy Movement, under David Miliband.

January 2020-October 2021: Joanne Rowling (The Democracy Movement) defection

Rowling gave two justifications for defecting once again - she felt the need to support a friend and political ally, and, privately, she expressed strong distate at the Lib Dem opinion of gender self-ID.

Over the summer of 2019 (largely as a sop to moderates like Penny Mordaunt and Theresa May) the Conservatives engaged in a consultation on an LGBT action plan which included Gender self-ID. The issue proved to be intensely divisive in the feminist community and caused great distress for Rowling within the Lib Dems.

Two things killed the new centrist party - Brexit finally went through in January 2020 when Boris Johnson was replaced with David Cameron, who was more amendable to compromise with his party's moderates. Secondly, from March to July the country was placed under lockdown, the new centrist party was unable to organise and unable to fundraise. Some 50,000 people had joined in September, but only 5,000 renewed in October, most saying they'd never so much as heard from the party.

Similarly, political divisions over Black Lives Matter pushed people towards either Labour or the Conservatives. Labour offered enthusiastic support for Black Lives Matter spearheaded by Diane Abbot. while the Conservative view was that proactive measures were needed to prot strict stance on the issue, or the Conservative Party's hard stance on punishing protestors - that "for too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will eave you alone". Between these two extremes, David Miliband with his discussion of the Black Lives Matter "moment" got lost in the noise.

President Rowling became a thorn in the side of her party. While they were willing to go along with her on cancelling gender self-ID her habit of getting into twitter spats with trans people and retweeting people with racist and homophobic views such as Baroness Nicholson, caused embarrassment in the party. In August 2020 internet activists uncovered what became known as Rowling's "kook account" - a sockpuppet username that she used on twitter to discuss trans consiracy theories and troll trans people.

In the end David Miliband had a quiet word with her, and this caused her final break with the party. She expressed her absolute disgust that a man would try to silence her on a feminist issue, and she refused any apologies from the party on the matter.

October 2021-2023: Joanne Rowling (Independent) defection

As an independent, Rowling's views became increasingly irratic. Sometimes this was funny - for instance in December 2021 she tweeted that wizards in the 19th century magically vanished their poos rather than using the toilet. Sometimes it was disturbing - like when she accidentally interrupted a tweet to a child with a lengthy description of trans male's genital surgery.

Rowling became a key ally for Liz Truss, the new Prime Minister. And following the 2022 "Bathroom Bill" she played a key role in preventing the EU and US from issuing travel warnings for trans people thinking of visiting the UK. She particularly built a good relationship with President Kamala Harris.

Her obsession with trans issues extended gradually into other areas - initially she intervened in laws concerning sex education and supported new anti-porn regulations, but she also became increasingly hostile to Black Lives Matter, the New Green Movement, and a range of other culture issues. Often her views on these issues aligned conveniently with the government, but her reasons her agreeing with the government were often unusual and her opinion rating decreased gradually in the face of a confused population.

2023-20XX: Jacob Rees-Mogg (Conservative)

2023: Jacob Rees-Mogg (Conservative) Diane Abbot (Labour) Gina Miller (Liberal Democrats) Joanne Rowling (Independent) Joanna Cherry (New Deal) Caroline Lucas (Green Party) Rene Eddo Lodge (Red-Green Platform for Change) Sandi Toksvig (Equality)
Rees-Mogg was a surprise pick from the presidential primaries of 2023. His key policy is the abolition of the presidency. It is not clear, as yet, whether he can persuade Liz Truss to call for a referendum on the restoration of the monarchy and the coronation of William Windsor as King. Time will tell.
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Rees-Mogg was a surprise pick from the presidential primaries of 2023. His key policy is the abolition of the presidency. It is not clear, as yet, whether he can persuade Liz Truss to call for a referendum on the restoration of the monarchy and the coronation of William Windsor as King. Time will tell.
#ReferendumNow #WilliamV #PresidentialFailure

Anyway, terrifying story.