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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Tsar of New Zealand

The Squid of Government Incompetence
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A list based on a thing I wrote a while ago.

Chief Managers of the Russian-American Company

1863 - 1870: Dmitry Petrovich Maksutov (Navy)
1870 - 1873: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich (Imperial Family, temporary exile) [1]
1873 - 1883: Fyodor Mikhailovich Novosilsky (Navy) [2]
1883 - 1885: Yevgeni Ivanovich Alekseyev (Navy) [3]
1885 - 1888: Oskar Enqvist (Navy)
1888 - 1892: Zinovy Petrovich Rozhestvensky (Navy) [4]
1892 - 1893: Stepan Osipovich Makarov (Navy)
1893 - 1896: Oskar Starck (Navy) [5]
1896 - 1898: Dejan Subotić (Navy)
1898 - 0000: Alexander Vasilyevich Kolchak (Navy) [6]

[1] Exiled as punishment for a scandalous affair which made his continued presence in Saint Petersburg untenable, the Grand Duke spent most of his tenure on a goodwill tour of the United States. The sinecure of the governorship was made obvious in the fact that Grand Duke Alexei only visited Alyeska twice during his term, before the Tsar forgave and recalled him to the metropole.
[2] The second-in-command at the Battle of Sinope, Novosilsky attracted the sinecure of Chief Manager during his twilight years in St Petersburg. Alyeska continued to stagnate under his management, with the Russian population of the colony only breaking 1000 in 1878.
[3] Fresh from a round-the-world voyage, Alekseyev looked to develop the colony as a forward operating base for Russia on the northeast shores of the Pacific. Novoarkhangelsk developed into a minor naval base, with coaling stations at Kodiak and Unalaska linking the Alyeska Squadron to Petropavlovsk and Vladivostok. Soon, however, more prestigious assignments in St Petersburg called, and the nascent development programme was left in the hands of the Captain's successor.
[4] A self-proclaimed hero of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, "Mad Dog" Rozhestvensky was determined to make a name for himself. His time as Governor was spent working feverishly on projects of dubious utility, designed to improve the appearance of the colony from afar - the construction of a gaudy gubernatorial mansion in Novoarkhangelsk, an insistence on bolstering the Alyeska Squadron (which served only to cause an invasion scare in British Columbia), and a genocidal "pacification" campaign against the Tlingit which drove most across the border into Canada (and in pursuing them, the presence of armed Russians on the wrong side of a debated border did not help assuage Canadian fears that an invasion was imminent).
[5] Recognising the primitive state of Alyeskan infrastructure and its tenuous position in case of an actual war, Starck desperately attempted to revitalise the colony. To bump up the number of warm bodies in Russian America land grants were offered, geological surveys were undertaken, the katorga camps extended across the Bering Strait, and exiles were pardoned for agreeing to settle. While it began to have an impact - there were nearly ten thousand Russians in Alyeska by mid-decade - this level of activity did not go unnoticed in Ottawa, London, or Washington.
[6] With the Siknazuak Incident of 1898, Subotić was recalled and his lieutenant governor, an inexperienced 24-year-old naval hydrographer who had only just arrived in Novoarkhangelsk, was elevated to the governorship. As the 20th century nears and frictions grow over Alyeska's newly-discovered mineral bounty between the Russian authorities and the Anglo prospectors who now outnumber them, it is unclear how and under whose rule the colony will greet it.
 
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Presidents of the United States

1997-2009: John Kasich (Republican)
1996 (with Paula Zahn) def. Birch Bayh (Democratic), Jesse Ventura (Independence)
2000 (with Harriet O'Neill) def. Parris Glendening (Democratic), Jesse Ventura (Independence)
2004 (with Harriet O'Neill) def. Lawrence Summers (Democratic), Jesse Ventura (Independence)
2009-2010: John Edwards* (Democratic)
2008 (with Daniel Inouye) def. Charles Bass (Republican)
2010-2013: Daniel Inouye (Democratic)
2010-2011 (Vacant)
2011-2013 (with James B King)

2013-????: Evan Bayh (Democratic)
2012 (with Bill White) def. Joe Arpaio (Republican)
2016 (with Mary Herrera) def. Rick Snyder (Republican)
2020 (with Mary Herrera) def. Marco Rubio (Republican)

A Quick-and-Dirty Parallel list, America-as-NY
 

Yokai Man

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HWAT,WHEN,HOW

OR-A VERY DUMB IMPLAUSIBLE LIST INSPIRED BY A VERY DUMB PRETENTIOUS SEQUEL TO A EIGHTIES CLASSIC GAME WITH NO FOOTNOTES

1945-1947: Herbert Morrison (Labour majority)
1947-1952: Stanford Cripps† (Labour majority)
1952-1954: John Strachey (Labour majority)
1954-1956: Anthony Eden (Conservative majority)
1956-1965: Rab Butler (Conservative majority)
1965-1973: Harold Wilson (Labour majority)
1973-1975: Jim Callaghan (Labour majority)
1975-1978: Airey Neave (Conservative Majority)
1978-1980: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative Minority backed by UUP)
1980-1991: Peter Shore (Labour leading War Government,Labour Minority after 1990)
1991-2001: Michael Meadowcroft (Liberal-SDP-One Nation-Green Alliance)
2001-2011: David Mundell (Liberal-SDP-One Nation-Green Alliance)
2011-202x: Liz Truss (Liberal-SDP-One Nation-Green Alliance)


The one who guesses the game get a prize
Alright,so basically Clem’s car mysteriously crashes while going to the palace and Herb shamelessly (in the eyes of some anyway) becomes Prime Minister and implements parts of the Beveridge Report and a more localized version of the NHS,along with dealing with MacArthur being assassinated by a former Japanese Major and the near early WW3 it nearly caused (long story,a thing that sorta happened in OTL that was supposed to be framed on the Japanese Communists by some Nationalists who wanted it to start WW3 in 1946 ,but was stopped after the Major poisoned one of his men he didn’t trust for some reason,but lived and ratted him out to the authorities) and a fractured party.Bevin also becomes more erratic due to Clem’s death and is convinced that Morrison was behind the car crash and is plotting to remove him from power,he and Arthur Greenwood making a deal with Cripps to remove Morrison in exchange from few things (having a nuclear program and removing Hugh Dalton mostly,Bevin just wanting revenge at this point) and Herb is removed in November 1947 after the triumvirate sorta finds out about his affair with Ellen Wilkinson and blackmailing him into resigning.

Cripps does the things you expect him to do if he became Prime Minister,but also does some weird unexplainable decisions, like funding numerous bizarre projects like a National Lobotomy Service(that’s right,we’re doing this bit again),creating the first test tube babies,brain transplants,referendums to sort out if colonies want to remain or leave the Empire and a much reviled and short lived Ministry of Rational Alimentation that more or less tries to implement similar dystopian plans that Iulian Mincu created during Ceaucescu’s rule that starved millions.(Note:The last two are implemented after the 1950 General Election,when Cripps is more confident in mysteriously imposing them).The Cambridge Five are also caught quicker than OTL and sent to death,Cripps becoming more disillusioned by 1952 with the world as a whole after awhile and dies in office due to cancer,wondering what possessed him to do the things he did.

Gaitskell and Bevan(who still is in the cabinet due to the Korean War being shorter and the NHS therefore not affected by its cost that much) duke it out and it turns into a bitter stalemate,Morrison also entering the ring to reclaim what he
considers was rightfully his being stolen from him,consequences be damned. Strachey becomes leader and PM as a compromise choice,more or less just doing the same things Herb and Cripps did due to fear of dividing the party and also because he and Labour,well,don’t know what to do anymore besides maintaining the postwar consensus and trying to deal with various scandals coming from actions of the members of the Ministry of Rational Alimentation,due to some of them either abusing their power from their own gain or going too far in imposing rational Alimentation (Earling Studios perfectly captured the feeling of anger the country felt towards the Ministry in the classic comedy “Oh,Fair Albion”,where Alec Guinness gives a great performance as the sinister puritanical Rational Alimentation official,Inspector Jacob Barnably,who terrorizes the residents of the fictional London neighborhood of East Pelham with respecting rationing and his vision of Britain).Eventually this leads to the government falling,Anthony winning and removing the Ministry and some other unsavory acts of the Cripps government,but then Suez happens and uh Wab mysteriously wins somehow and I kinda wanna make this a two parter since I gotta go somewhere and I can’t post for a couple of hours

I did warn this was gonna be really stupid,didn’t I
 

Yokai Man

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Alright,so basically Clem’s car mysteriously crashes while going to the palace and Herb shamelessly (in the eyes of some anyway) becomes Prime Minister and implements parts of the Beveridge Report and a more localized version of the NHS,along with dealing with MacArthur being assassinated by a former Japanese Major and the near early WW3 it nearly caused (long story,a thing that sorta happened in OTL that was supposed to be framed on the Japanese Communists by some Nationalists who wanted it to start WW3 in 1946 ,but was stopped after the Major poisoned one of his men he didn’t trust for some reason,but lived and ratted him out to the authorities) and a fractured party.Bevin also becomes more erratic due to Clem’s death and is convinced that Morrison was behind the car crash and is plotting to remove him from power,he and Arthur Greenwood making a deal with Cripps to remove Morrison in exchange from few things (having a nuclear program and removing Hugh Dalton mostly,Bevin just wanting revenge at this point) and Herb is removed in November 1947 after the triumvirate sorta finds out about his affair with Ellen Wilkinson and blackmailing him into resigning.

Cripps does the things you expect him to do if he became Prime Minister,but also does some weird unexplainable decisions, like funding numerous bizarre projects like a National Lobotomy Service(that’s right,we’re doing this bit again),creating the first test tube babies,brain transplants,referendums to sort out if colonies want to remain or leave the Empire and a much reviled and short lived Ministry of Rational Alimentation that more or less tries to implement similar dystopian plans that Iulian Mincu created during Ceaucescu’s rule that starved millions.(Note:The last two are implemented after the 1950 General Election,when Cripps is more confident in mysteriously imposing them).The Cambridge Five are also caught quicker than OTL and sent to death,Cripps becoming more disillusioned by 1952 with the world as a whole after awhile and dies in office due to cancer,wondering what possessed him to do the things he did.

Gaitskell and Bevan(who still is in the cabinet due to the Korean War being shorter and the NHS therefore not affected by its cost that much) duke it out and it turns into a bitter stalemate,Morrison also entering the ring to reclaim what he
considers was rightfully his being stolen from him,consequences be damned. Strachey becomes leader and PM as a compromise choice,more or less just doing the same things Herb and Cripps did due to fear of dividing the party and also because he and Labour,well,don’t know what to do anymore besides maintaining the postwar consensus and trying to deal with various scandals coming from actions of the members of the Ministry of Rational Alimentation,due to some of them either abusing their power from their own gain or going too far in imposing rational Alimentation (Earling Studios perfectly captured the feeling of anger the country felt towards the Ministry in the classic comedy “Oh,Fair Albion”,where Alec Guinness gives a great performance as the sinister puritanical Rational Alimentation official,Inspector Jacob Barnably,who terrorizes the residents of the fictional London neighborhood of East Pelham with respecting rationing and his vision of Britain).Eventually this leads to the government falling,Anthony winning and removing the Ministry and some other unsavory acts of the Cripps government,but then Suez happens and uh Wab mysteriously wins somehow and I kinda wanna make this a two parter since I gotta go somewhere and I can’t post for a couple of hours

I did warn this was gonna be really stupid,didn’t I
Right,part 2.Wab is in charge,power hungry and not really wanting to change much,leaving the National Lobotomy Service,test tube baby experiments and weird Crippsian projects in place,occasionally trying to solve problems like Rhodesia via referendum,which doesn’t go as well as planned with Rhodesia declaring independence as end result and Ian Smith and his racist gang in charge and imposing martial law indefinitely.That however is the least of Wab’s problems,given that by 1964 he’s seen as a corrupt slime ball. First came the Profumo Scandal and he refuses to resign,followed by the Argyll Scandal where Duncan Sandys is identified as the Headless Man and the discovery that Raw Mawby,Postmaster General is a Czech spy. Wab however keeps trying desperately to remain in power,blaming others as responsible and trying to present him as necessary to the wealthfare of the nation (as well as blackmailing MPs into supporting him). By hook or by crook he manages to create a hung parliament and survive for a while.That is,until the uncensored Channon Diaries appears, published at the orders of his many rivals in the party,who have become desperate to get rid of the power hungry Butler,even if it means their electoral demise since they don’t want a man like him,who will do anything to stay on the top and doesn’t believe in anything beyond himself,anymore in charge of the country.Wab,derided by all at this point (especially by Private Eye,who among other things publishes a series of satirical speeches in which Wab tells the nation of needing to stay in power for his buttocks,the greatest in all the land,and how he was chosen by God and the ghosts of the nation’s past to run the country forever and ever),loses and is sent to the dustbin of history,occasionally rambling about India,”his true motherland” where he eventually goes to live permanently.

Harold Wilson (because I’m hack who couldn’t think of anyone else) enters power with a large majority,implementing his white heat with vigor and reforming the country socially and economically.Unfortunatly,Harold is just as sneaky and duplicitous as OTL,if not even more,and after a while does more and more populist acts in order to maintain Labour’s strong position,such as organizing a Referendum on the death penalty (on which he stays neutral til a winning side clearly appears) and on the remaining colonies (the overseas territories,along with Grenada and Hong Kong becoming officially part of Britain),as well as making sure that the Backing Britain campaign is successful no matter the costs and England wins every important sporting event.That,along with Wealth fare expenses (no matter the longer turn economic cost) and immigration restrictions are higher than ever,make Woy want to go ahead with a coup against Wilson,which backfires and makes Sunny Jim Harold’s successor after 1970,when Labour wins even more due to England winning the World Cup again and Labour engaging in a little populism,Harold retiring after ‘73,having just started a project on building a number of bunkers around Britain in case of nuclear warfare.

Jim has to handle the economic and energy crisis,being forced to implement a Three Day Week and the temporary reintroduction of the Ministry of Rational Alimentation,renamed the Ministry of Rationing,as well as numerous riots,miner strikes and Northern Ireland going haywire.To say the least,he doesn’t handle them well and the Conservatives manage to get a small majority led by good old Colonel Neave,who unfortunately doesn’t make Britain better,but instead more chaotic.Miners are fighting the police in the streets with dozens of dead,The Troubles went to 11 and Neave’s monetarist plans aren’t well met,with the Colonel having to fight not only various far left and far right extremists who are becoming more popular,but also his own demons,becoming more and more erratic.Things reach a tragic end for Neave as he and a number of Conservative MPs are murdered by an IRA mortal bombing,leading to Howe becoming Prime Minister and trying and failing to keep things under control,becoming a figure of scorne,both in the establishment and the counterculture (Viz famously making fun of him in the comic “Grey Geoff,the Boring Bastard”,while The Clash dedicating an entire concept album about him and other British Prime Ministers).

As such,Peter Shore and Labour rises to power,with the belief that they can change things for the better...only for WW3 to happen after a few months after their victory,due to Snoop Jackson and Brezhnev going overboard during tensions rising after an accidental shootout in Berlin between American and Russian soldiers.The good news is that numerous bunkers have been constructed by 1980 and that Shore’s War Coalition is secure in its victory.The bad news is that most of Europe and North America are irradiated,hundred of millions die and it turns out not all of the bunkers are that well built.The next years are harsh,with Shore running what remains of the country from a bunker and fighting various warlord factions.By 1990,Scotland,Wales and Cornwall are basically independent,as the government can’t really financially support them AND maintaining order in England.Shore is becoming more and more extreme due to having to run a nuclear ravaged nation in a bunker with people he’s starting to get tired of,transmitting radio messages to the population living in bunkers and drinking heavily as authoritarian policies are being reluctantly implemented due to the situation and slowly civilization rebuilds itself back to normal (well,a form of normality anyway) and the War Coalition is dismantled as the government organizes the first election in a decade,with Shore reluctantly still in charge due to being no else acceptable left to run the party that isn’t an extremist.

A hung parliament happens,with Meadowcroft forming a coalition with Shirley,St John-Stevas and Sara Parkin’s parties due to extremists having taken over the rest of the seats and no one wanting to deal with Shore at this point,who’s beyond broken at this point and happily retires,visited from time to time by Woy or Benn.Originally a temporary alliance,the Multicolored Alliance sorta becomes the only acceptable choice,since no one actually wants Nick Griffin,Arthur Scargill ,George Galloway or Katie Hopkins to be in power in any way,so most of the country just gets used to it as either become obsessed with the media of the past or watch That Enfield and Whitehouse Show,Vic Reeves’s highwaymen and smugglers comedy show set in the 1820’s and 1830’s or Steward Lee’s scandalous but popular Life in Hell,where all the hated figures of Britain’s past torture each other and mostly get bored as time comes and goes.All of England in fact mostly reminisces about the good old days that never truly happened,while Wales,Scotland and Cornwall are independent countries and go on their lives,trying to make things better for themselves and letting England in her own fairytale,letting her think she still runs the world out of pity.

Again,I did warn it wasn’t gonna be plausible,didn’t I?

Well,that’s that then.Hopefully I’ve learned something from this and someone was entertained by this mess
 
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Yet More Fashions Made Sacred Monarchs

Part 3: The Ox of the East

The Kings and Queens of Roumania, Their Majesties, by the Grace of God (House of Guelph — 1869-present)
1869-1906: George I [1]
1906-1935: George II [4]
1935-1942: Christian [6]
1942-1960: Catherine [8]
1960-1995: George III [10]
1995-0000: Sophia [12]
0000-0000:
Nicholas Maximilian Constantine Frederick, Prince of Transylvania
0000-0000: Princess Sophia Priscilla Mirela Catherine of Transylvania

Royal Consorts of Roumania (1869-present — by birthright style)
1870-1881: Lady Catherine Brancoveanu (House of Brancoveanu) [2]
1889-1906: Lady Maria Mohylowiecka (House of Movila) [3]
1906-1935: Princess Louisa Frederica of Brandenburg (House of Hohenzollern) [5]
1937-1942: Princess Pranvera of Albania (House of Sanseverino) [7]
1942-1955: Prince Alphonso of Italy (House of Guelph) [9]
1960-1995: Princess Priscilla of England (House of Orange) [11]
1995-0000: Prince Maximilian III of Oettingen-Wallerstein (House of Oettingen)
0000-0000:
Princess Mirela Suada of Albania (House of Sanseverino)

[1] The formation of Roumania from the Ottoman province of Wallachia and the Polish-Lithuanian province of Moldavia under English protection, which ended the Third Moldavian War, created the first state in the Balkans ruled by neither the Osmanli, the Commonwealth nor the Hapsburgs in nearly a hundred years, since the outright annexation of Wallachia by the Osmanli Sultanate in 1780. George I, a relative and a childhood companion of King James IV of England, as well as the inactive claimant to the defunct Electorate of Brunswick, was given its throne in the English-brokered treaty that ended the war. The Fourth Moldavian War quickly showed the new country’s weak position, as the Holy Roman Emperor invaded at his proclamation as King of Roumania rather than as Prince of Moldavia and Wallachia, worrying of a claim to the Roumanian-populated region of Transylvania, at the fringes of the Hapsburg dominions in the Kingdom of Hungary.

England and Sweden came to the rescue that time, but George I knew that he had only been given a modicum of breathing room by the intervention. Though still enjoying England’s support, George refused to rely on this, and played the role of a stringent neutral, refusing to show any favoritism to the Commonwealth, the Hapsburgs or the Osmanlis, and he cultivated trade relationships with all three powers. George I’s Building the Nation campaign is credited by most with the creation of a Roumanian state in fact as well as name. He built a massive system of inexpensive toll roads and bridges crossing all through Roumania, modeled on James III’s roadbuilding policies in England, which encouraged internal trade links between the two former principalities, and promoted industrialization in the urban centers of Constantia, Bucharest and Jassy. In the 1880s, George I imported an enormous number of presses, founding several newspapers and literary societies to encourage Roumanian literacy, sponsoring writers and artists to promote the Roumanian nation and its people, having the written works translated into French so as to create an international audience for them, and he founded the University of Constantia just by the grounds of the Royal Palace in 1893.

King George promoted the interests of the Orthodox clergy throughout his reign, with the Roumanian Orthodox Church created and granted autonomy in 1880. King George, however, remained a devout Protestant, and established the Protestant Church of Roumania, a theologically Lutheran body, in 1873, but created it with a presbyterian polity, to avoid offending the Orthodox Church by appointing bishops.

[2] Queen Catherine was the daughter of the Wallachian noble Stephen Brancoveanu, a powerful lord in the opposition Autonomy Faction against the Sultan, and a scion of the house which had once ruled Wallachia. The marriage between Queen Catherine and King George was purely dynastic; by uniting his bloodline with that of Stephen’s only heir, the king and his descendants acquired legitimacy beyond their enthronement by England. The historically dominant narrative was of a plain and retiring lady who was primarily an engine for her father’s ambitions - particularly in comparison to her much more colorful rivals for her husbands affection - but more modern scholars have displayed that she showed a similar intelligence and cunning to her father, and played more of a role in her husband’s court than previous historians have credited, playing a major role as a defender of Roumania’s liberties and its people, and promoting her family’s interests within the kingdom.

Unfortunately, whatever her intelligence and cunning may have wrought in their own right, she predeceased her father, dying in childbirth in 1881.

[3] Queen Maria was the daughter of Prince Michael Mohylowiecz, one of the great magnates of the Polish-Lithuanian Senate in the late 19th century, as well as a scion of a house which had once ruled both Moldavia and Wallachia. The marriage was agreed as part of a treaty with the Commonwealth, to help repair the frayed ties between Roumania and the Commonwealth following a war scare. Queen Maria was a more obviously dynamic queen than her predecessor, and it quickly became apparent that she would not tolerate rivals. The need to keep a decent relationship with Poland-Lithuania forced the King to exile his illegitimate children from court, and keep his affairs private. However, her dynamism ended here; she had little influence on her husband’s policies. She was entirely uninterested in Roumania and Roumanian domestic affairs, and she was entirely ineffective and promoting Polish-Lithuanian interests in Roumanian foreign affairs. She was de facto exiled from court upon her husband’s death, as she found herself constantly at odds with his children by Queen Catherine, but was also refused permission to return to the Commonwealth.

[4] George II became king upon his father’s death, and inherited a fairly kingdom, though still one in a very precarious situation. Following his father’s advice and training (though against the policy positions he’d usually taken as Crown Prince, where he’d been much more aggressive), he initially kept to his father’s policies, founding the Royal Railroad Company of Roumania in 1907. However, opportunity soon came for his aggressive inclinations to come out, when the Spanish Civil War broke out in 1909 — and, within a few years, the whole Habsburg dominion had burst into flames. In 1912, George II, using the Venetian bombardment of Sarajevo as a pretext, declared war on Austria and Venice, recognized the Spanish Republic and invaded Austrian Hungary. As the flames spread through the Balkans, he also recognized the independence of both the Kingdom of Serbia and Albania from the Osmanli Sultanate, lending men, arms and supplies in an unofficial capacity to avoid opening up a second front in the south.

The war was an unqualified success for Roumania — absolute victory and all of the king’s aims had been achieved as the age of Hapsburg dominion in Europe outside of Venice came to a sudden, violent end, and the Osmanlis were forced to pull back to their modern borders. Following the agreement of the Treaty of Christiania, brokered by Denmark, the Balkans were unrecognizable from their state before the war — Serbia and Albania were both independent states; Hungary, Austria and Bohemia were all separate, Commonwealth-sponsored republics; and - most importantly - Transylvania had been unified with its Roumanian brethren; George gave his son, the Crown Prince George, the style “Prince of Transylvania” in commemoration of this victory.

The rest of George’s reign was spent integrating Transylvania with the rest of the kingdom, and trying to bring the region up to the same level of development as Wallachia and Moldavia. This was a long, expensive project, and Transylvania - though much improved - remained a backwater in comparison to the other two regions. It was also during his reign that the full autocephaly of the Roumanian Orthodox Church was acknowledged, and Patriarch Theodore I was formally inaugurated as the first autocephalous patriarch in 1924.

Though his father is honored as the Father of the Country, George II is sometimes called “George the Glorious” for his great victories for the Roumanian nation.

[5] Though the marriage between Queen Louisa Frederica and George II was one of political calculation in its origin, the pair quickly became enamored of one another — in stark contrast to his father, George II would never take any other lover for the rest of his life. Louisa Frederica struggled to learn Roumanian after her arrival in Constantia, and, while she would never speak with fluency and would always speak with a strong accent, even the effort to do so endeared her to her husband’s people, especially with a predecessor who would only address them in Polish or French. Queen Louisa Frederica is sometimes dismissed as backward, given that she stands a much more retiring, more quiet figure in stark contrast to the many more prominent, outspoken zenobian consorts of her day, such as Marie-Josèphe and Lucretia of France, Maria of England and her sister-in-law, Catherine of Sweden, she did play a quiet, but significant role in the development of women’s liberties in Roumania, in supporting the use of contraception and family planning, as well as pushing her husband to force through the nation’s first spousal injury laws.

Louisa Frederica gave her husband three healthy, manly sons, and she was a heavily involved mother, personally selecting their nurses, their caregivers, their tutors, their confessors and, ultimately, even their drill instructors — and, though some might disdain a woman making these decisions at the time, she was - after all - from Brandenburg. However, fate was cruel to both of them, as each of their sons predeceased them in turn: first their second son, Philip, to his jealous lover’s pistol, when caught in bed with another; then, their eldest, George, in a training accident in Transylvania; and, finally, her youngest and favorite, Augustus, to a train’s boiler explosion. She died only a few months after her husband.

[6] King Christian of Roumania had been the Prince of Transylvania only two years when his uncle died; with three male cousins, he had never been expected to take the throne until he was already an adult. King Christian was much unlike both the previous kings and his cousins; he was an academic at heart, more at home with books about the great courts of the past than with his own. Nevertheless, he grimly took to his new task with the gravity of a contemplative monk twice his age. Controversially, the only very major decision he made was to sell off the lion’s share Royal Railroad Company to private investors, in order to invest that money into a larger navy; this was seen as a pointless gesture by many in the National Assembly, as they thought Roumania could never match neither Poland-Lithuania nor the Osmanli in the Black Sea. However, it wasn’t long before his moves were seen as having had incredible foresight, as the Osmanli Sultante was brought to its knees by civil war and revolt in the Mashrique.

Nevertheless, he did not live to see his Black Sea Fleet come to culmination; he died of a chest infection, still only thirty-seven years old.

[7] Queen Pranvera was chosen as King Christian’s consort by his court two years into his reign; the king had never shown any interest in marriage, or affairs of any kind, before his reign, and still showed little interest afterward. Nevertheless, he and his new wife had a congenial relationship congenial relationship, as Pranvera was a woman as grave and as bookish as her husband. She patronized three new women’s colleges at the University of Constantia, quadrupling their number, and promoted zenobian scholarship.

Pranvera miscarried twice during her husband’s reign, and the couple had no children born. After her husband’s death, she continued to patronize the women’s colleges, and, in 1958, became the patron of the women’s societies that formed after the integration of sexes at the university. In 1954, she was named as patron of the Ladies’ Officer Corps at the Royal Military Academy, until it was dissolved in 1980 after the complete integration of the sexes at the academy.

In 1947, Queen Pranvera married her second husband, The Baron Constantin Regelescu, an illegitimate grandson of George I. She gained one stepdaughter and had two daughters, all three of whom went through the Ladies’ Officer Corps and served in the Roumanian military.

In 1960, she was named patron of the University of Constantia, the first and only patron of the University not to be the sovereign. This was a role she held until her death in 2004.

[8] Queen Catherine took the throne after her (slightly younger) twin brother’s death. Queen Catherine was a more active figure than her brother, and she continued most of his policies. Indeed, she certainly had been been one of King Christian’s closest advisors, and some had even referred to her disdainfully as his “prime minister”. Whatever her role, on becoming sovereign herself, she continued the expansion of the Roumanian Navy until it became the second-largest standing Black Sea fleet, larger than the Osmanli Sultante’s permanent Black Sea squadrons (but smaller than the whole Sultanate navy, which also had bases in the Mediterranean), but smaller than the Polish-Lithuanian Black Sea Armada. With Polish-Lithuanian ascendancy in eastern and central Europe following the Great Baltic War, Queen Catherine was often forced into a neutrally pro-Polish position, even though its natural interests would now align her more with the Balkan states and the Sultanate. She also continued to cultivate relations with England, which had long the sponsors of the independent Roumania, but, while relations between the royal families remained as genial as ever, the National Assembly saw England as distant and weak, while the English Parliament saw Roumania as little more than a Polish puppet which had betrayed England by its failure to join the war to strike Poland-Lithuania in the back.

However, as the leash on Poland-Lithuania’s German and Slavic puppets began to tighten, with even Serbia being dragged into Cracovia’s orbit, Roumania’s continuing independence and neutrality was seen as the only course for both the monarchy’s and the nation’s survival. Queen Catherine did what she could to plot her nation’s course on this single, narrow course, but, as a result of her focus on militarization and naval expansion to protect Roumania’s neutrality, the Roumanian economy began to flounder and fail.

[9] Alphonso, the first male consort of Roumania, was a charming dilettante, with a passing interest in all sorts of things but a passion for none. He patronized the arts and sciences, as well as charities and those few fellow members of his Roman Catholic faith in Roumania. The union of the senior and junior lines of the House of Guelph that his marriage created helped to form the foundation of a very strong cultural and social affinity between the latter’s Italy and the former’s Roumania. Alphonso was far more personable than his wife, and was often used by the Queen as an intermediary with the National Assembly and the Orthodox Church, with which Alphonso had a far better relationship than his Lutheran spouse. By all accounts, it was very difficult to dislike Alphonso.

Like with everything else in his life, Alphonso had a constantly wandering eye, and took several different extramarital lovers during his marriage, both before and after his wife became sovereign, though he was as a rule remarkably discreet about his affairs, considering the show he made of the rest of his life. Despite this open secret, he and his wife did share some affection until the end, and Queen Catherine much mourned his sudden death by cancerous tumor in 1955.

[10] George III took his mother’s throne in 1960, a time of revolutionary change in the world; mass-produced autocarriages, the first fixed-wing aircraft and radio all started to take the world by storm, and, though none began in Roumania, all of them would come to his realm during his reign. George III had always been concerned about his mother’s military spending, and he cut back on “extravagances”, including a significant part of the Roumanian Navy in the Black Sea, in order to plunge money into encouraging new and greater industrialization in the major urban centers of Moldavia and Wallachia. Standing in stark contrast to its Balkan neighbors, Roumania quickly embraced the spirit of the late twentieth century, with its first “international airport” being built in Constantia in 1968, before any such fields had even been considered in the Commonwealth or the Sultanate.

Much of the countryside was neglected early in his reign, but this would soon be resolved in the king’s mind when George III established the Royal Roads and Bridges Company, which used a pool of private investors’ and national joint funding to build the first national-scale autocarriage-dedicated road network in the entire world. However, many rural regions complained that the new roads primarily benefited the cities, in making it easier to bring goods to them, rather than the villages, and rural resentment - both from nobles and peasants - for the king and the high taxes they had paid happily when it meant building a bulwark from the vile Pole and Turk, but less so when it was just to pass the money into the hands of the urban business classes and nobility. The 1982 Mures Uprising showed just how much discontentment had grown, particularly in oft-neglected Transylvania, with the monarchy and with George III’s governance. Though the uprising was crushed by military force, the king learned a lesson, and spent much of the rest of his reign on addressing the problem. The significant cuts to the contributions of the peasantry and rural nobility were much appreciated and easy, but trying to shift the tax burden onto the urban population proved - unsurprisingly - unpopular in his traditional urban base of support, and he spent the last decade of his reign with his government increasingly indebted both to foreign and domestic moneylenders, and constantly at odds with the urban interest-dominated National Assembly for his attempts to raise funds by taxing their patrons.

[11] Queen Priscilla is an imposing, socially dominant woman, who has ruled over Roumanian noble and polite society with an iron fist on behalf of her mother-in-law, husband, and daughter for the past sixty years. It is said that not even a glance is shared between two prospective friends among the Roumanian great and good without her knowing it. She takes very much after her namesake, the Queen regnant of England, who was said to have the same iron grasp on England, Scotland and Ireland. It is said by some that there are many who strongly dislike her, even hate her, but that there are none brave enough anymore to do so openly.

She has been said to endear herself to her family’s more common subjects simply by the grip of sheer terror she maintains upon their nobility, but she also is a great patron of charity, and she pays a generous tithe from her estates to the Roumanian Orthodox Church despite continuing to profess as a Wesleyan and attend the Lutheran services which are run for her late husband and, now, her daughter.

[12] Queen Sophia came to the Roumanian throne a matter of months before the Global War began, and her sole, primary and only goal as sovereign quickly became to keep Roumania out of the war that ripped Europe to shreds by any means necessary, a goal which she - if only narrowly - succeeded in. Sophia assumed emergency powers two months after the start of the war, dissolving the National Assembly for the duration in order to silence both the pro-Commonwealth and pro-English factions in the legislature, using her garrisons in Constantia to guarantee order. Despite her neutrality, she quietly allowed Poland-Lithuania to move troops, materiel and supplies through Roumania to their allies in Serbia on multiple occasions for use against Albania, which had sided with Beijing along with Italy and Sicily, in an attempt to avoid provoking a Commonwealth declaration of war forcing her hand and ending any hope of an independent Roumania.

Roumania passed the war intact, and Sophia decreed a new instrument in 2000 to reconstitute the National Assembly with universal suffrage for the Third Estate, like in France, which significantly weakened the urban business class in the legislature and gave her a more malleable legislature, filled with a royalist contingent primarily focused on maintaining Roumanian neutrality, and evenhandedness between the Commonwealth and England, and their respective allies.

Her domestic policy has been focused on drawing down the enormous debt which her father took out in the form of having finally achieved the tax reforms he sought; nevertheless, there is always the fear that she worries about Roumania in vain — if the madness of the world powers in threatening one another with annihilation by origin bombs can’t be stopped.

Then again, Roumania has always existed on a knife’s edge. What’s one more?
 
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I like this a lot

Having a Brancoveanu or a Movila on the throne of Romania is hella inspired

Great job,but I should note that it’s spelled Constanta,not Constantia

Besides that,it’s wonderful.
I know. It’s an alternative anglicization. In TTL Romanian (or should I say Roumanian), it’s still spelt Constanța.
 
Great job. There 's also an interesting potential back-story as to who 'George I' from Brunswick is - presumably in this version of events the 'King Jameses III and IV' in GB mean that the Hanoverian Succession has never taken place. So is he a lineal descendant of our OTL 'George III' and 'George IV' (from a junior line of the House of Brunswick, ruling in Celle/ Calenberg/ Hanover, with the latter marrying differently and having a son, a descendant of the OTL Ernest, Duke of Cumberland, or of the senior line of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel?

I presume we don't get a First World War in this scenario, as Austria-Hungary has been broken up by defeat in 1912 so there's no need for Serb irredentists to cause trouble in Bosnia in 1914, and so no Second WW either. A surviving monarchic Balkans not minced between the power-blocs of Germany and Russia in 1914-18 and 1939-89 is one of my own enthusiasms, from reading up a lot of 1930s-40s Balkan history books and royal memoirs at the University of London as a student.

Another alternate royal line in Roumania could be the Cantacuzenes, as a major player in the Phanariot nobility in Wallachia/ Moldavia in the C17th and C18th and with merchant dynasty links at the Porte in Constantinople - and as they had a claim (never established definitely) to be from the Byzantine imperial dynasty of Emperor John VI Cantacuzene (ruled 1347-54, d 1383) things could get interesting if their enlarged Roumania faced off against Greece by c.1912. They could then claim the Greek throne as 'genuine Greeks', unlike the Danish OTL Greek royal family.

Things could also alter drastically in the Balkans if the pro-Russian Karageorgeovics do not get their Serb throne back in 1903 by means of the military coup and Alexander II Obrenovic's and Queen Draga's assassination. That way, Serbia is an Austro-Hungarian not Russian client in 1914 and Russia does not back it in case of any Sarajevo AH royal murder. The Obernovics, who led the successful second Serb breakaway from the Sultanate after 1817, could still be on the throne if either Alexander I,a strong and centralising ruler had not been murdered in 1868 (and had then had a son) or if Milan Obrenovic II had not been driven to abdicate in his under-age son Alexander II's favour in 1889. Born 1854, Milan could still be on the throne in 1912-14, as an AH client, and attracted AH and German military backing and officers to stabilise his regime and army - then presumably the 'Black Hand' anti-AH irredentists in Serbia would have been rounded up by the Serbian regime as 'Russian agents'. Gavrilo Princip would have been in gaol or exile, and we would have had no Sarajevo crisis and in 1916 a new AH Emperor Franz Ferdinand ready to set on the Hungarian grip on the Dual Monarchy by creating a separate Croatian sub-kingdom.
 
inspired by what @Japhy was talking about the other day

Born In The Wrong Generation

1961-1969: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1960 (with Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.) def. John F. Kennedy (Democratic), Harry F. Byrd (Democratic, unpledged electors)
1964 (with Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.) def. Sam Yorty (Democratic), Hubert H. Humphrey (Freedom Democratic)

1969-1973: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1968 (with Jim Rhodes) def. George Smathers (Democratic)
1973-1981: Scoop Jackson (Democratic)
1972 (with George Wallace) def. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican), Ezra Taft Benson (Independent)
1976 (with George Wallace) def. John Lindsay (Republican), William F. Buckley (National Conservative)

1981-1989: George Bush (Republican)
1980 (with Lowell Weicker) def. John Connally (Democratic)
1984 (with Clarence Thomas) def. Jeane Kirkpatrick (Democratic)

1989-1997: Clarence Thomas (Republican)
1988 (with Pete du Pont) def. Al Gore (Democratic)
1992 (with Pete du Pont) def. Dick Gephardt (Democratic)

1997-2001: Pat Buchanan (Democratic)
1996 (with Edmund Brown Jr.) def. Bill Blythe (Republican)
2001-2005: Bernie Sanders (Republican)
2000 (with Jesse Jackson) def. Pat Buchanan (Democratic)
Was this the Nixon victory in 1960 time line?
 

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@AlfieJ showed me Richard Ojeda's campaign video and it felt extremely Smedley to me.

so uh

enjoy this list

Presidents of the United States of America

2017-2019: Donald J. Trump (Republican)
2016 (with Michael T. Flynn) def. Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2017: Impeachment of Vice President Michael T. Flynn (Republican)
2018: Senate confirmation of Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican) as Vice President

2019-2020: Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican)
2020-2025: Richard N. Ojeda II (Workers)
2020 (with Kshama Sawant) def. Donald J. Trump (Independent) [ineligible], Joe Biden (National Unity)
 

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@AlfieJ showed me Richard Ojeda's campaign video and it felt extremely Smedley to me.

so uh

enjoy this list

Presidents of the United States of America

2017-2019: Donald J. Trump (Republican)
2016 (with Michael T. Flynn) def. Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2017: Impeachment of Vice President Michael T. Flynn (Republican)
2018: Senate confirmation of Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican) as Vice President

2019-2020: Richard N. Ojeda II (Republican)
2020-2025: Richard N. Ojeda II (Workers)
2020 (with Kshama Sawant) def. Donald J. Trump (Independent) [ineligible], Joe Biden (National Unity)
Chasing Shadows 2:The Twitter Years
 
Richard Lawrence :Kills President Andrew Jackson(will do a write up later.I skiped over a few presidents also,)

7. Andrew Jackson in office

8.John C. Calhoun

9.James K. Polk

10.Lewis Cass

11. Benjamin Harrison

12.William Jennings Bryan
 
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1979-1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Minority, with Liberal and UUP confidence and supply) def. Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1984: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative minority, with Liberal confidence and supply)
1984-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Democratic), Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), Cecil Parkinson (Conservative), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1988: Denis Healey (Labour majority)
1988-1998: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1989 (Majority) def. Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), collective (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1993 (Majority) def. Teresa Gorman (Peoples'), Jan Clark (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist), collective (Team Syntegrity)

1998-2007: Richard Littlejohn (Peoples')
1998 (Coalition with Democrats) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), collective (Syntegrationist)
2001 (Majority) def. Peter Mandelson (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), Bernie Grant (New Socialist), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), Sadie Plant (Syntegrity: The Millennium Challenge)
2006 (Majority) def. Ken Livingstone (Labour), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), Alan Milburn (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

2007-2011: Boris Johnson (Populist majority)
2011-2014: Ken Livingstone (Labour)
2011 (Coalition with Greens, the NSP and Democrats) def. Boris Johnson (Peoples'), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), David Miliband (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist)
2014-2019: Nick Land (Independent Syntegrationist)
2014 (New Team Pact with Greens and Democrats) def. Sarah Vine (Peoples'), Diane Abbott (New Socialist), Ken Livingstone (Labour), Ian Paisley Jr. (Ulster Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
 

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1979-1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 (Minority, with Liberal and UUP confidence and supply) def. Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal), Harry West (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1984: Cecil Parkinson (Conservative minority, with Liberal confidence and supply)
1984-1984: Michael Foot (Labour)
1984 (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Democratic), Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), Cecil Parkinson (Conservative), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1984-1988: Denis Healey (Labour majority)
1988-1998: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1989 (Majority) def. Geoffrey Dickens (Peoples'), collective (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist)
1993 (Majority) def. Teresa Gorman (Peoples'), Jan Clark (Green), David Owen (Democratic), Jim Molyneaux (Ulster Unionist), collective (Team Syntegrity)

1998-2007: Richard Littlejohn (Peoples')
1998 (Coalition with Democrats) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), collective (Syntegrationist)
2001 (Majority) def. Peter Mandelson (Labour), Jean Lambert (Green), Bernie Grant (New Socialist), David Owen (Democratic), John Taylor (Ulster Unionist), Sadie Plant (Syntegrity: The Millennium Challenge)
2006 (Majority) def. Ken Livingstone (Labour), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), Alan Milburn (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)

2007-2011: Boris Johnson (Populist majority)
2011-2014: Ken Livingstone (Labour)
2011 (Coalition with Greens, the NSP and Democrats) def. Boris Johnson (Peoples'), Caroline Lucas (Green), John McDonnell (New Socialist), David Miliband (Democratic), Robert McCartney (Ulster Unionist), Nick Land (Syntegrationist)
2014-2019: Nick Land (Independent Syntegrationist)
2014 (New Team Pact with Greens and Democrats) def. Sarah Vine (Peoples'), Diane Abbott (New Socialist), Ken Livingstone (Labour), Ian Paisley Jr. (Ulster Unionist), Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein)
I had to go and look up Nick Land. Oof, why would you do this, Bob. Or is that Nick land as a Stafford Beers type Syntegralist?