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Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

Carter Kennedy ticket seems unlikely since Kennedy primaries
List of the greatest Presidents since 1945 (compiled by the American Political Science Association)

1: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican, 1953-1961)
The general who integrated the schools, brought America together with the Interstate Highway System, and oversaw an era of prosperity.

2: Harry S Truman (Democratic, 1945-1953)
The prairie statesman who rebuilt Europe, oversaw the Korean War, and fought for the American worker.

3: Meg Whitman (Republican, 2001-2005 and 2009-2013)
The businesswoman who brought about healthcare reform, pushed for peace in Kashmir, and became a powerful symbol as the first female president.

4: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic, 1963-1969)
The wheeler and dealer who built Medicare and Medicaid, pushed Civil Rights through Congress, and blundered America into the Vietnam War.

5: Jack Kemp (Republican, 1993-2001)
The former football star who oversaw the opening of the Soviet Union and the dot-com boom.

6: Gary Locke (Democratic, 2013-)
The incumbent who inaugurated a new era of international trade, balanced the budget, and fought for GLBT rights. Who knows what he'll do next?

7: Reubin Askew (Democratic, 1986-1993)
The honest Governor who brokered democracy in Eastern Europe and brought the economy onto a firm footing.

8: James E. Carter (Democratic, 1977-1981)
The farmer who saw America through economic crisis and pushed for peace abroad.

9: John F. Kennedy (Democratic, 1961-1963)
The martyr who taught America to reach for the stars and stopped the Cuban Missile Crisis from descending into outright war.

10: Gerald R. Ford (Republican, 1974-1977)
The lifelong legislator who brought a measure of stability to America after Watergate.

11: Henry Cisneros (Democratic, 2005-2009)
The former mayor who fought to expand America's housing programs beyond recognition but saw his Presidency ended by scandal.

12: Ronald W. Reagan (Republican, 1981-1985)
The actor who took America further to the right than it had gone in decades.

13: Richard M. Nixon (Republican, 1969-1974)
The politician who brought about détente and ended the war in Vietnam but destroyed American trust in the Presidency for a generation.

14: Gary Hart (Democratic, 1985-1986)
The liberal whose womanizing ways ended his Presidency before it had really begun.
That's a really refreshing format, Wolfram :)
1977: Jimmy Carter†/Ted Kennedy (Democratic)
1977-1985: Ted Kennedy/Frank Church (Democratic)
1985-1991: Alexander Haig†/Phil Crane† (Republican)
1991-1997: Colin Powell/Mickey Leland (Republican - National Unity)
1997-2001: Mickey Leland/George Pataki (Democratic - National Unity)
2001-2009: Ralph Nader/Stewart Alexander (Independent, nominated by Green, Peace)
2009-2013: Jim Webb/Mitt Romney (Republican - National Unity)
2013-2017: Angus King/Barbara Lee (Independent, nominated by Democratic, Peace)
2017-: Mitt Romney/Liz Cheney (Republican - National Unity)


Carter is assassinated after a slightly different 76 Election. Haig’s brinkmanship during the fall of the Soviet Union leads to a limited nuclear war. Powell, the sole survivor creates a National Unity Alliance. Dissatisfaction with the alliance in 2000 leads to a Nader Coalition forming.

Note: this was a cooperative list, hence the seeming random shifts
carter in 80.
 

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A Spooky Halloween List, no that Cottingley one doesn't count that was an unrelated whim.

Chancellors of the First German Republic

1919-1919: Philipp Scheidemann (Social Democratic)
1919 (Weimar Coalition with Centre and DDP) def. Walter Nauhaus (Teutonic), Arthur von Posadowsky-Wehner (German National Peoples'), Hugo Haase (Independent Social Democratic), Rudolf Heinze (German Peoples')
1919-1920: Gustav Bauer (Social Democratic leading Weimar Coalition with Centre and German Democrats)
1920-1920: Wolfgang Kapp (German National Peoples' leading Military Government, backed by Freikorps and the Thule Society)

Volkskaisers of the Third German Reich

1920-1925: Erich Ludendorff (Nonpartisan 'Thulist')
1921 def. William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1925-1928: Alfred von Tirpitz (Nonpartisan 'Junker')
1925 def. Rudolf von Sebottendorf (Nonpartisan 'True Thulist'), Erich Ludendorff (Nonpartisan 'Ludendorff Thulist'), William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1928-1932: Alfred Hugenberg (Nonpartisan 'Junker')
1928 def. Gregor Strasser (Nonpartisan 'Workers'), Walter Nauhaus (Nonpartisan 'Thulist'), William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1932-1933: Hermann Goering (Nonpartisan 'Thulist')
1932 def. William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')

Volkskaisers of the Fourth German Reich

1933-1938: Hermann Goering (Thule Society)
1933 Plebiscite, YES 99%, NO 1%
1938-1951: Heinrich Himmler (Thule Society)
1938 Plebiscite, YES 100%
1951-1951: Rudolf Hess (Thule Society)

Volkskaisers of the Hyperborean Reich / Fifth German Reich

1951-XXXX: Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln (Thule Society)
1951 acclaimed by the Grand Masters of the Germanenorden of Hyperborea

So the POD is the Thule Society successfully couping the People's State of Bavaria (with a minor POD having Goering not have his OTL flight injury, and a slightly more major one in that errr magic works).

The Thulists become the largest right-wing grouping in the new Reichstag, thanks to locking down Bavaria - and together with the DNVP give the Kapp Putsch a few more teeth when the time comes. The Putsch itself ends up abolishing the Republic, and rather than restoring the Kaiserreich simply establishes the kind of totalitarian conservatism the plotters imagined.

The Thulists endure some setbacks thanks to early alignment with and then destruction at the hands of Erich Ludendorff. The Reich's 'elections' are only held when the Reichstag loses confidence in the Volkskaiser - and Ludendorff's controversial divorce and marriage was too much for the legislature's carefully maintained hyper-conservative majority. Tirpitz was a safe pair of hands right up until he retired, and so seemed Hugenberg. The man contended with the Reich's most narrow election since the end of the Great War, as Strasser was able to scrape up the remnants of the broken left and push them into a box smeared with Reichsadlers. Hugenberg's victory was followed by bloody retribution against Strasser's gang.

Only for it to turn out he was a Jew. This was unacceptable, and it broke the back of the Junkers who had taken back control of the Reich. And so the Thule Society returned, and tore the constitution such as it was to shreds. Goering was a smooth, handsome war hero and took the Reich forward at a breakneck pace, to reclaim Germany's proper place in the sun. He would fall to internal plotting on the eve of his planned war, and it would be Himmler who would plunge the world into a decade of bloodshed.

Himmler's Fourth Reich plunged the depths of forbidden knowledge and combined them with the clinical surety of the the modern age to bring about profanities undreamt of. At the height of his success, the best part of three continents knelt to him. But all bad things come to an end, as surely as the good. The remains of the European empires, together with the United States and the now extremely nervous Japanese came together. It took years, and at its end, the world population had been reduced by some unholy percentage. Himmler shot himself as his gods abandoned him, but it would be Hess who finally submitted to the Allies.

But the Thulists are not yet done. At the height of their power, Himmler had his most powerful sorcerors raise the lost continent of Thule from the depths - in the process destroying Iceland in a fountain of magma, and causing horrific flooding throughout much of the Atlantic. The new continent was quickly claimed and guarded with the most powerful binding spells the Reich could muster. Now, the last remnant of Himmler's dream still stands, the seas around it forever wreathed in impenetrable fog. The population of Hyperborea is only a few hundred thousand, but they are the most dedicated that the Thule Society could muster, pure Aryan stock drawn from across Europe and indoctrinated by the Germanenorden's monasteries.

Attempts to destroy the Fifth Reich have come to naught, no plane or boat can enter their seas or cross into their airspace without simply disappearing, and over it all reigns the quixotic sorcerer who first rose to prominence as Wolfgang Kapp's publicist.
 
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A Spooky Halloween List, no that Cottingley one doesn't count that was an unrelated whim.

Chancellors of the First German Republic

1919-1919: Philipp Scheidemann (Social Democratic)
1919 (Weimar Coalition with Centre and DDP) def. Walter Nauhaus (Teutonic), Arthur von Posadowsky-Wehner (German National Peoples'), Hugo Haase (Independent Social Democratic), Rudolf Heinze (German Peoples')
1919-1920: Gustav Bauer (Social Democratic leading Weimar Coalition with Centre and German Democrats)
1920-1920: Wolfgang Kapp (German National Peoples' leading Military Government, backed by Freikorps and the Thule Society)

Volkskaisers of the Third German Reich

1920-1925: Erich Ludendorff (Nonpartisan 'Thulist')
1921 def. William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1925-1928: Alfred von Tirpitz (Nonpartisan 'Junker')
1925 def. Rudolf von Sebottendorf (Nonpartisan 'True Thulist'), Erich Ludendorff (Nonpartisan 'Ludendorff Thulist'), William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1928-1932: Alfred Hugenberg (Nonpartisan 'Junker')
1928 def. Gregor Strasser (Nonpartisan 'Workers'), Walter Nauhaus (Nonpartisan 'Thulist'), William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')
1932-1933: Hermann Goering (Nonpartisan 'Thulist')
1932 def. William von Preussen (Nonpartisan 'Hohenzollern')

Volkskaisers of the Fourth German Reich

1933-1938: Hermann Goering (Thule Society)
1933 Plebiscite, YES 99%, NO 1%
1938-1951: Heinrich Himmler (Thule Society)
1938 Plebiscite, YES 100%
1951-1951: Rudolf Hess (Thule Society)

Volkskaisers of the Hyperborean Reich / Fifth German Reich

1951-XXXX: Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln (Thule Society)
1951 acclaimed by the Grand Masters of the Germanenorden of Hyperborea

So the POD is the Thule Society successfully couping the People's State of Bavaria (with a minor POD having Goering not have his OTL flight injury, and a slightly more major one in that errr magic works).

The Thulists become the largest right-wing grouping in the new Reichstag, thanks to locking down Bavaria - and together with the DNVP give the Kapp Putsch a few more teeth when the time comes. The Putsch itself ends up abolishing the Republic, and rather than restoring the Kaiserreich simply establishes the kind of totalitarian conservatism the plotters imagined.

The Thulists endure some setbacks thanks to early alignment with and then destruction at the hands of Erich Ludendorff. The Reich's 'elections' are only held when the Reichstag loses confidence in the Volkskaiser - and Ludendorff's controversial divorce and marriage was too much for the legislature's carefully maintained hyper-conservative majority. Tirpitz was a safe pair of hands right up until he retired, and so seemed Hugenberg. The man contended with the Reich's most narrow election since the end of the Great War, as Strasser was able to scrape up the remnants of the broken left and push them into a box smeared with Reichsadlers. Hugenberg's victory was followed by bloody retribution against Strasser's gang.

Only for it to turn out he was a Jew. This was unacceptable, and it broke the back of the Junkers who had taken back control of the Reich. And so the Thule Society returned, and tore the constitution such as it was to shreds. Goering was a smooth, handsome war hero and took the Reich forward at a breakneck pace, to reclaim Germany's proper place in the sun. He would fall to internal plotting on the eve of his planned war, and it would be Himmler who would plunge the world into a decade of bloodshed.

Himmler's Fourth Reich plunged the depths of forbidden knowledge and combined them with the clinical surety of the the modern age to bring about profanities undreamt of. At the height of his success, the best part of three continents knelt to him. But all bad things come to an end, as surely as the good. The remains of the European empires, together with the United States and the now extremely nervous Japanese came together. It took years, and at its end, the world population had been reduced by some unholy percentage. Himmler shot himself as his gods abandoned him, but it would be Hess who finally submitted to the Allies.

But the Thulists are not yet done. At the height of their power, Himmler had his most powerful sorcerors raise the lost continent of Thule from the depths - in the process destroying Iceland in a fountain of magma, and causing horrific flooding throughout much of the Atlantic. The new continent was quickly claimed and guarded with the most powerful binding spells the Reich could muster. Now, the last remnant of Himmler's dream still stands, the seas around it forever wreathed in impenetrable fog. The population of Hyperborea is only a few hundred thousand, but they are the most dedicated that the Thule Society could muster, pure Aryan stock drawn from across Europe and indoctrinated by the Germanenorden's monasteries.

Attempts to destroy the Fifth Reich have come to naught, no plane or boat can enter their seas or cross into their airspace without simply disappearing, and over it all reigns the quixotic sorcerer who first rose to prominence as Wolfgang Kapp's publicist.
This is bloody good :D I do love me some WW2 Occultism
 
I wonder which Tory MPs, if any, would've defected to UKIP after a Remain victory in 2016.
After the Reckless and Carswell experiences, none, I would expect. The twin difficulties of seat retention and dealing with Farage were already too well-established.

I'm not really sure what the ultimate goal would be given I think a second referendum would be improbable - but Cameron would have been out of the leadership sooner rather than later and Johnson or some other fellow traveller for the right of the party would have good prospects in the subsequent contest. There's no reason to bolt.

Defection would only re-emerge as an issue if UKIP did actually bank the 20%ish they were polling during the campaign at the next election and broke through in seats.
 

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After the Reckless and Carswell experiences, none, I would expect. The twin difficulties of seat retention and dealing with Farage were already too well-established.

I'm not really sure what the ultimate goal would be given I think a second referendum would be improbable - but Cameron would have been out of the leadership sooner rather than later and Johnson or some other fellow traveller for the right of the party would have good prospects in the subsequent contest. There's no reason to bolt.

Defection would only re-emerge as an issue if UKIP did actually bank the 20%ish they were polling during the campaign at the next election and broke through in seats.
I think what you'd have seen is a period of 'the issue is settled' but with Britain making vague noises in the commission that '2 speed might be good' and the ERG would bank on waiting till the next big federalist issue and being able to catapult back into power based on that.
 

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Justa Grata Honoria
417-505

Handuga Lorenz playing Honoria in the 1501 film
"The Empress of the World"


Kings of the Hunnic Empire / Emperor of the Roman Empire

402-448: Theodosius II (Eastern Empire)
402-408: Arcadius (Co-Ruler)​
408-414: Pulcheria (Regent)​
414-448: Pulcheria (Co-Ruler)​

Theodosius' refusal to pay a tribute of 700 pounds of gold to the Huns a year lead to war in 446 and the unstoppable Huns advanced rapidly towards Constantinople, arriving shortly after an earthquake that destroyed the city's walls. Taking this as a sign, the Huns sacked the city, killing many of the inhabitants and raising the city to the ground.

With the city in ruins the imperial court was moved to Antioch, where Theodosius II would meet his end to an assasin's knife in short order.

425-455: Valentinian III (Western Empire)

Valentinian's sister Justa Grata Honoria developed a reputation within the empire for ambition, promiscuity, and, in general, behaviour completely unbefitting a meek Roman woman. In an attempt to keep her on the straight and narrow she was pledged to Bassus Herculanus - a suitably boring and unambitious senator. To escape a life of boredom, Honoria sent a message to Atilla the Hun. The message included her ring, which he took as a marriage proposal.

434-459: Attila (The Hunnic Empire)

Attila claimed the right to marry Honoria and claimed half of the Eastern Empire as a fitting dowry. Instead, he would take the whole Empire. After defeating the combined forces of the Romans and assorted Gothic tribes at Aurelianum the Goths took Rome. They were too burdened with loot to leave in a hurry and perhaps because of this they made the surprise decision to stay in Italy, and shortly after beseiged Ravenna, sacking that city also. Honoria and Attila were married at the Imperial Palace in Ravenna shortly before the building was burned to the ground and Attila claimed the title of Emperor of Rome.

448-455: Flavius Zeno (Eastern Empire)

Following the death of Theodosius, the Isaurian guard took direct control of the blasted empire and attempted to restore order. War with the Sassanids in 449 would put the Empire in existential danger and the Western Empire would hold them off only after making major concessions, however Attila's intervention into the Eastern Empire's European provinces in 455 would lead to the end of the Empire. The Sassanids joined the attack in the West, taking the Levant. By the time Zeno was killed in battle Egypt was cut off and Europe was a lost cause.

453-455: Attila (Western Empire)
m. Justa Grata Honora (452)​

Attila would rule the Western Roman Empire in a remarkably hands off manner. Allowing agents and, increasingly, the Empress Honora to control the western court. The court was beyond corrupt, positions were mostly granted by selling them to the highest bidder and little concern was given even to loyalty. The Hunnic horde was embedding itself in key locations to pounce on rebellions and carry off more treasure. Attila wasn't even concerned with the rump empire in France and Hispaniola, when the horde was ready for more plunder it in fact marched instead into the richer but less defended eastern empire.

453-459: Messianus (Western Empire)

Remnants of the Roman imperial system and army gravitated toward Lutetia, where Messianus was declared emperor by his troops. The Lutetian Roman Empire would last for four years before Attila turned his attentions to it, and a further two years would pass before the sacking of Lutetia and Messianus' suicide.

455-509: Barsauma (Eastern Empire)

The Eastern Roman Empire's beaurocracy struggled to re-establish itself after the loss of it's capital and many senior officials, and when it suffered defeat it split rapidly. There were many claimants to the Eastern empire, from Sassanid puppets to barbarians to the champions of the chariot teams, but in the end power was taken up by the church - or rather a fringe monophysite sect of monks with a history of sectarian violence. Barsauma would lead an ever diminishing fraction of Antioch and Turkey with an ever more megalomaniacal hand until his death. His increaslingly apocalyptic bent and his extreme antisemitism have been played down by his ideological disciples, and to this day he is venerated as one of the most important religious figures within the Roman Monophysite Church, which still makes up a significant minority of the population around Antioch.

455-459: Attila (Roman Empire)

On taking Constantinople a second time Attila would claim Imperium over a united, if much reduced, Rome. His policy towards government began to change as it became clear he intended to make a go of things in the Empire. He would continue to appoint Bishops and Patriarchs as useful local stooges and snitches, but discouraged religious orthodoxy. He would put a minimal effort into maintaining the courts and basic organs of government, but Romans and senators would expect no further special treatment. It was a chaotic, barely functional empire, but it was a system that found some supporters. Enough, at least, that his position was vaguely stable as he rode west to defeat the rump Western Emperor and encounter his successor.

459-466: Ambrosius Aurelianus (Western Empire)

Ambrosius Aurelianus would over time become a famous figure in the British Isles and to this day archaeologists attempt to find proof of Merlin, or Camelot, or his other mythic triumphs. However the history of Ambrosius is more prosaic. He was paid to fight for the western Romans and following Lutetia he defeated the overlaidened and somewhat exhausted Huns at Samarobriva. This was a great propaganda boost for a defeated Empire and The Emperor Ambrosius would go on to rule parts of Britain for a number of years as a rump Roman vassal.

459-462: Ellak (The Hunnic Empire)

Attila had three sons, of note, and they did not get on. However, Attila also had territories from Hispaniola to the Caspian Sea and from Greece to Denmark. Nobody expected a single ruler to control it all. Though it would appear that Ellak and Ernak were unaware of this - for three years the Roman Empire and the Hunnic Empire launched ccountless raids and sackings and attempted coups. According to legend Ellak was killed by Ildico - a former wife of Attila who was remarried to Ellak. Ernak would restore order in both Empires and Ildico would go on to be remembered as a folk hero to the Gothic peoples.

459-468: Ernak (Roman Empire)

According to myth Attila had been told that his people would fall with him but Ernak would restore them to greatness, and he was always a close adviser of his father's. His empire had the best Hunnic troops, more money, and more power. The only thing it lacked was political stability. But Ernak knew enough to delegate these tasks to his court, and to his mother-in-law. Increasingly, land, power and prestige belonged to people who owed it to the Ernak and the Roman Empire was being recreated in the image of it's conquerors. Meanwhile, the conquerors were being recreated in the image of Rome. Hunnic soldiers exchanged their horses for the management of estates and with that was a need for writing and organisation. The Hunns never learnt Latin, or converted to Christianity, but they considered both things to be a useful quality in slaves and therefore allowed them to survive and even flourish in the new order.

The Year of the Seven Emperors

The year of the seven emperors is recorded as such due to the neat historiography of having it sit alongside the Year of the Four Emperors in the 1st century, the Year of the Five Emperors in the 2nd, the Year of Six Emperors in the 3rd century and the Year of Eight Emperors in the 7th century. While there was a year with seven emperors, the crisis was in no way restricted to that time and they weren't all properly Roman.

468-471: Syagrius (Western Empire)
m. Galla Placidia the Younger (468)​
Gaining some additional legitimacy through a strategic marriage to the daughter of Valentinian III Syagrius was the first to claim the purple. He wouldn't even receive the legitimacy of being killed by a fellow pretender, Bel-Kermak's Saxon raiders would kill him in the sacking of Londinium as Britain began its long transition from being a Romano-Celtic country to being a Hunnic-Saxon one.

468: Longinus Calvus (Eastern Empire)
m. Galla Eudocia (444)​
An Isaurian general originally, Longinus married another of the daughter's of Valentinian and made his own attempt to restore the Empire, this time through Moesia. While he gained backing from a surprising number of segments, this was largely because he was never really seen as a contender. Nobody was surprised when he was executed.

468-472: Ricimer (Rome)
m. Ascama (465) (daughter of Elak)​

Unlike the first two Ricimer attempted to wrest control of the Empire away from the Huns but not restore some kind of pre-Hunnic Empire. He elevated Honora's son Romulus to the purple as a co-emperor to win over further support from the Huns and was instrumental in the defeat of Gaiseric's invasion and Longinus' rebellion. Eventually, shortly after the defeat of Longinus his army was routed by the Hunns and he was killed.

468-477: Gaiseric (Vandals)
m. Licinia Eudoxia (466)​

The Vandals launched a substantial a battle into Roman territory, taking advantage of Arian sympathies in Hispaniola and Hunnic distraction. Gaiseric was stopped by Romulus before he could reach Rome and his campaign was dramatically over-ambitious, however Gaiseric survived the period of civil war and would continue to be seen by Romans was one of the last remaining friends of classical civilisation.

468-473 Bel-kermak (Hunnic Empire)

Following the defeat of the Longinus and Syagrius Bel-Kermak came to rule a vast Empire with strategic advantages of the their Roman neighbours. But it was still only barely an empire, more a loose confederacy of Gothic countries who were regularly bullied by Hunnic overlords. The Roman Empire presented a far more tempting offer - legal protections, a measure of equality, and protection of trade. Bel-kermak was pushed back on all fronts by rebellion, defection, and military defeat.

468-532: Romulus Hunorum (Roman Empire)
Romulus Hunorum would be remembered for consolidating a Roman Empire that may have lost Africa and Asia but had finally gained central Europe. He reformed the political order and oversaw the change between Latin and Gothic serving as a Lingua Franca. The economy slowly recovered, religious differences gave way to official toleration, and the Hunnic ruling classes were firmly ensconced in power.

Romulus spent most of his time at the front, and continued the usual practice of Hunnic emperors holding the Imperial Bureaucracy at arms length. However, the influence of first his mother and then his wives kept security on the political front while Romulus concentrated on securing his new border. In time, however, the Emperors would come to resent power remaining in the hands of Christian, Latin speaking administrators who could set themselves up against Emperor, but throughout Romulus' reign the Hunnic ascendancy was strong and healthy.

The emperor began the practice of paying nominal loyalty to one or other Christian sect, but with the understanding that those traditions stopped as soon as he was on campaign and needed to rely on real spiritual power. It would be another fifty years before a Hunnic Emperor would see loyalty to a particular Christian sect as anything more significant than their choice of chariot team.

The Hunnic Roman Empire had sowed the seeds of its destruction from the start - the lack of unity, the lack of political alleigance to the centre, the over-emphasis on military service, the toleration of both Gothic and Latin legal and linguistic traditons, and most of all, the lack of solidarity within the Hunnish ascendancy. The largest surprise was that the Empire lasted until the seventh century before it splinitered into nations. However, Romulus would be remembered alongside the original Romulus, Augustus, and Constantine, as one of the five (or arguably six) founders of Rome, and would be the last of those to rule the Empire as Emperor rather than as Consul.
 
I think what you'd have seen is a period of 'the issue is settled' but with Britain making vague noises in the commission that '2 speed might be good' and the ERG would bank on waiting till the next big federalist issue and being able to catapult back into power based on that.
I think the right would want all those things which Remain people tell us we could do in the EU, but just never did, tested, and generally going as Trumpish on immigration as possible. And generally being as belligerently Gaullish or Thatcherish towards the EU as possible. As a minimum.

But I don't know about a second referendum and am conscious of the possibility of transferring my anticipated attitude onto the wider vote. Though alienated I wouldn't have wanted a second referendum. It would have been done and the answer would have been delivered. Pestering the electorate would have been the EU approach. But I'm not sure about the wider Leave vote. Farage certainly seemed to be readying an 'it was rigged, guv' iine on the night - and Farage wouldn't have been short of votes in a Remain win scenario. So who knows.

I certainly don't think the issue would have 'just gone away' anymore than it has with Remain or it has with independence in Scotland - and Leave can claim at least an equivalent, and in OTL, higher level of support than those and vis a vis Remain to be honest a more dogged historical devotion and organisation for the issue.
 
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I think the right would want all those things which Remain people tell us we could do in the EU, but just never did, tested, and generally going as Trumpish on immigration as possible. And generally being as belligerently Gaullish or Thatcherish towards the EU as possible. As a minimum.

But I don't know about a second referendum and am conscious of the possibility of transferring my anticipated attitude onto the wider vote. Though alienated I wouldn't have wanted a second referendum. It would have been done and the answer would have been delivered. Pestering the electorate would have been the EU approach. But I'm not sure about the wider Leave vote. Farage certainly seemed to be readying an 'it was rigged, guv' iine on the night - and Farage wouldn't have been short of votes in a Remain win scenario. So who knows.

I certainly don't think the issue would have 'just gone away' anymore than it has with Remain or it has with independence in Scotland - and Leave can claim at least an equivalent, and in OTL, higher level of support than those and vis a vis Remain to be honest a more dogged historical devotion and organisation for the issue.
I was thinking more in terms of 'government policy is 'the issue is settled' but there's a minority of MPs who insist it isn't' than any sort of public consensus.
 
US Secretaries of Culture and Communications

1966-1967: Edward R. Murrow †
1967-1969: Jack Valenti

1969-1977: Daniel J. Boorstin
1977-1979: James Michener
1979-1981: Joan Ganz Cooney

1981-1982: Mel Bradford
1982-1989: William Bennett
1989-1993: Lynne Cheney

1993-2001: Bill Moyers
2001-2009: Sonny Bono
2009-2013: Carla Hayden
2013-2016: Al Franken
2016-2017: Rufus Gifford

2017-2019: Clint Eastwood
2019:
vacant

The Culture Department has been leaderless since the 89-year-old Secretary Eastwood’s resignation for health reasons; nominee Dinesh D’Souza withdrew himself from consideration in May amid personal legal difficulties and President Trump has not yet chosen a replacement.
 
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US Secretaries of Culture and Communications
Just a butterfly-killing thought experiment - what if we had a department incorporating all the independent cultural agencies? I figure it would encompass what's done by the FCC, CPB, NEH / NEA, NARA, the Library of Congress and the Copyright Office, the Smithsonian, maybe a couple other agencies. The Johnson administration, an era of both expansion of government and public-intellectual obsession with cultural theory, seems like the right time for us to get a Culture Department.

Presumably the intent here is for Murrow to run an American BBC and spruce up Johnson's image, but his one remaining lung gives out and the department ends up evolving into a grab bag of different duties that the Republicans have been saying they'll abolish since 1980.
 
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Finished filling in the gaps for A Greater Britain. May do one for France.

1929-31: Ramsey MacDonald (Labour)
1929: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative), David Lloyd George (Liberal)
1931-32: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative-Liberal Coalition)
1931: Oswald Moseley (Labour), Herbert Samuel (Liberal), John Simon (Nat. Lib.)
1932-40: Oswald Mosley (Labour)

1932: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative), Herbert Samuel (Liberal)
1936: Anthony Eden (Conservative), Herbert Samuel (Liberal)
1939: Neville Chamberlain (Conservative), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal)

1940-43: William Graham (Labour)
1943-52: Rab Butler (Conservative)

1943: William Graham (Labour), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Richard Acland (Popular Front - Commonwealth/ILP)
1948: Nye Bevan (Labour), Richard Acland (Popular Front), Megan Lloyd George (Liberal)

1952-63: David Maxwell Fyfe (Conservative)
1953: Nye Bevan (Labour), Tom Driberg (Popular Front), Megan Lloyd George (Liberal)

1957: Tony Greenwood (Labour), Tom Driberg (Popular Front)
1959: Tony Greenwood (Labour), Michael Foot (Popular Front)
1963-64: Ian McLeod (Conservative)
1964-73: George Brown (Labour)

1964: Ian Macleod (Conservative), Michael Foot (Popular Front)
1970: Enoch Powell (Conservative), Barbara Castle (Popular Front)

1973-81: Enoch Powell (Conservative)
1973: George Brown (Labour), Barbara Castle (Popular Front)
1978: Roy Jenkins (Labour), Barbara Castle (Popular Front)

1981- : Alan Clark (Labour)
1981: Enoch Powell (Conservative), Eric Heffer (Popular Front)


1933-41: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John N. Garner (Democrat)
1932: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (Republican)
1936: Alf Landon/Frank Knox (Republican)

1941-45: Alben Barkley/Cordell Hull (Democrat)
1940: Wendell Wilkie/Charles McNary (Republican)
1945-53: Harold Stassen/John Bricker (Republican)
1944: Alben Barkley/Cordell Hull (Democrat)
1948: Millard Tydings/Hubert Humphrey (Democrat), B.T. Laney/Strom Thurmond (States Rights)

1953-61: Hubert Humphrey/W. Averill Harriman (Democrat)
1952: Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (Republican), Strom Thurmond/John Sparkman (States Rights)
1956: William Knowland/Robert B. Anderson (Republican)

1961-65: Barry Goldwater/Walter Judd (Republican)
1960: W. Averill Harriman/Stuart Symington (Democrat)
1965-73: Joseph Kennedy Jr./Happy Chandler (Democrat)
1964: Barry Goldwater/Walter Judd (Republican)
1968: William Scranton/Robert Finch (Republican)

1973-81: George Romney/Rogers Morton (Republican)
1972: Joseph Kennedy Jr./George Wallace (Democrat)
1976: John F. Kennedy/Henry Jackson (Democrat)
1981- : Audie Murphy/Ronald Reagan (Democrat)

1980: Rogers Morton/Howard Baker (Republican)
 

Mumby

'I love the pun he will go far'
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So this is something. It's been publicised that The Outer Worlds' POD is the same as Reds! for a while now (though obviously not couched in those terms). So I decided to do a Theoretical Look Backward. This was originally going to be much longer, to cover the entire 20th century, but I decided to prune it down a little.

ATLB: The Outer Worlds

1897-1905: William McKinley (Republican)
1896 (with Garret Hobart) def. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic / Peoples' / Silver)
1900 (with Theodore Roosevelt) def. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic / Peoples')

1905-1913: Charles W. Fairbanks (Republican)
1904 (with William Howard Taft) def. Alton B. Parker (Democratic), William Jennings Bryan (Peoples')
1908 (with William Howard Taft) def. George Gray ('Traditional' Democratic), William Randolph Hearst (Peoples' / 'Progressive' Democratic)

1913-1921: William Howard Taft (Republican)
1912 (with Herbert S. Hadley) def. William Randolph Hearst (Independence), Champ Clark (Democratic)
1916 (with Hiram Johnson) def. Champ Clark (Democratic), Theodore Roosevelt (Nationalist)

1921-1925: William Randolph Hearst (Democratic / 'National' Republican)
1920 (with Leonard Wood) def. Hiram Johnson ('Progressive' Republican), Bill Haywood (Socialist)
1925-1926: Leonard Wood (Republican)
1924 (with Herbert Hoover) def. William Randolph Hearst (Democratic), Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (Progressive)
1926-1941: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1928 (with Charles G. Dawes) def. William Randolph Hearst (Democratic)
1932 (with Charles G. Dawes) def. William H. Murray ('Southern' Democratic), William Randolph Hearst ('San Simeon' Democratic)
1936 (with Douglas MacArthur) def. Huey Long (Union), William Randolph Hearst (Independence), James A. Reed (Democratic)

1941-1949: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Union)
1940 (with Earl Long) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican), Ellison D. Smith (Democratic), William Randolph Hearst (Independence)
1944 (with Earl Long) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican), Wendell Willkie (Independence), various Democrats


The Gilded Age never truly ends. The Democrats remain riven between a 'progressive' wing increasingly dominated by the singular personality of William Randolph Hearst, and a 'conservative' wing committed to the maxim of 'cotton is king and white is supreme'. The Republicans meanwhile, manage to dance on the knife-edge of a similar split, with the conservatives managing to win out.

The United States, increasingly dominated by her trusts, never gets involved in the Great War but is around to pick up the pieces in the 1920s, aiding in the foundation of the League of Nations. The League is initially concerned primarily with disputes between nation-states, but as American trusts take a leading role in the Reconstruction of Europe, it begins to arbitrate corporate disputes as well.

The sheer inequality of American society sees a string of bloody of strike in 1919-20, which gives the oxygen for Hearst to triumph over Johnson's candidacy. Hearst uses his newspapers to begin crafting a new cultural ideology to explain away the peoples' ills, whilst cracking down with bloody force whenever that failed. His failures to fully destroy the snake of socialism (implicitly aided by the Russian Soviet Republic) sees his VP triumph, only to immediately die and give way to The Architect of Europa.

Hoover is considered a modern Founding Father, alongside Lincoln. His first term was relatively quiet, but the coup in Japan in the spring of 1932 led to the Pacific War which defined his Presidency. When the war came to an end, it saw Asia reshaped as thorougly as Europe had been, and the failures of the League to prevent that war saw it reformed (with the acquiesence of the British, French and Middle Europeans, who were now thoroughly in the pocket of the trusts) into the Earth Directorate, which has put an end to the Westphalian era of diplomacy, with the trusts now taking their place alongside conventional nation-states.

The victory of a non-Republican party in 1940 was something of a surprise, but at its head was the Hero of Kanto himself, a man committed to the Directorate, and who would wage a bloodless war against the Russians - the sole nation not to be a member of that body - and those who expressed sympathy for the Soviet ideology.

That 'war' would end in the 1960s, long after Eisenhower left office, with the development of thermobaric weaponry allowing the Directorate to threaten the Russians with annihilation if they did not open themselves up to negotiation with their neighbours and competitors.
 

Japhy

This is the way
Published by SLP
In honor of tomorrow, some SpOoKy LiStgEtTi

1941-1944: Thomas E. Dewey / Charles L. McNary (Republican)
1940: Paul V. McNutt / Alben W. Barkley (Democratic)
1944-1945: Thomas E. Dewey / vacant (Republican)
1945-1974: Charles A. Lindbergh / John W. Brickner (America First)

1944: Henry A. Wallace / Harry S. Truman (Democratic), Thomas E. Dewey / Thomas C. Hart (Republican)
1948: William O. Douglas / W. Averell Harriman (Independent “True” Democratic), James V. Forrestal / James Roosevelt II (All-American Democratic), Robert A. Taft / Harold A. Stassen (Republican)
1952: Robert A. Taft / Adlai E. Stevenson II (Constitutionalist), C. Estes Kefauver / John B. Hynes (All-American Democratic)
1956: George C. Marshall / Coke R. Stevenson (All-American Democratic)
1960: Eugene Siler / Thomas J. Dodd (All-American Democratic)
1964: Martin Dies Jr. / Louise D. Hicks (All-American Democratic)
1968: John V. Lindsay / Adlai E. Stevenson III (All-American Democratic) William O. Douglas / Eugene J. McCarthy (Independent)
1972: Walter F. Mondale / Edmund S. Muskie (All-American Democratic)
1974-1977: L. Ronald Hubbard / vacant (America First) [Acting]
1977-1981: L. Ronald Hubbard / William B. Shockley, Jr. (America First)

1976: Frank F. Church III / Gary W. Hartpence (All-American Democratic)
 
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It's not actually Halloween yet but what the hell.
American Politics is a Horrorshow
Based on this scenario.

1961-1965 John F. Kennedy (Democratic) (1)
1965- 1973 Richard Nixon (Republican) (2)
1973 Milton McGuire (Republican) (3)
1973-1977 Barry Goldwater (Republican) (4)
1977-1981 Ernest Hollings (Democratic) (5)
1981-1989 Donald Rumsfeld (Republican) (6)
1989-1997 Alexander Haig (Republican) (7)
1997-2005 James Traficant (Democratic) (8)
2005-2009 John Ashcroft (Republican) (9)
2009- ? Ashley J. Williams (Democratic) (10)

  1. It was under Kennedy that The Terror begin, although nobody noticed at the time. The gruesome Bates murders shocked American society and dominated headlines for months, but at the time they seemed like perfectly mundane, if disturbing events. After his narrow election, Kennedy seemed set to be a popular President, with his movie star good looks and pretty young wife. Unfortunately, events intervened. The Plant Horror in New York was followed by the Avian Uprising of 1963 and the Slime People invasion of California, as well as dozens of smaller scale but no less bizarre and horrific events. Baffled and out of his depth, Kennedy failed to prevent the resulting moral panic from being weaponised by Republicans.

  2. After having been elected Governor of California in the Republican landslide of 1962, the former Vice-President won the Republican nomination on a law and order platform, alleging that Kennedy was too weak to deal with the bizarre new events America was now faced with. Nixon, however would prove to be only marginally less effective. The troops that Kennedy had sent to Vietnam were recalled due to a desire to focus on home, which led in turn to détente with the Soviets and Chinese. Nixon was eventually able to pass a Civil Rights bill through Congress, a task not made easier by the rise in North-South tensions after several Yankee tourists were gruesomely murdered by a town of Neo-Confederates. It was under Nixon that the term “The Terror” was first used to describe the sudden prevalence of horrific and often supernatural events. Nixon created numerous task forces in attempts to discover the source of The Terror, to no avail. Meanwhile, a hardline reactionary movement began to grow in response to The Terror, as Evangelicals entered politics in droves. The first witch hunts began in 1967. 1968 was a particularly bad year, as the world was faced with the brief but bloody Insect Uprising, an invasion by body snatching aliens and the first great Zombie outbreak, with corpses rising from Pennsylvania to the Vistula. Given how much of the country was in chaos or under martial law at the time, it is still not entirely clear who really won the 1968 election.

  3. Nobody quite knows who Milton McGuire actually was. The story that the public knew about in 1972- his election as Senator for New York, his lifelong friendship with Nixon, his winning combination of both a conservative record and a pro-civil rights one- was all a lie. There is no reliable record of McGuire ever having existed prior to winning the Republican nomination. Memories are hazy in the extreme, public records are obvious forgeries when they haven’t been mysteriously destroyed in fires and even his apparently loving family has vanished without a trace. The current theory is that McGuire was in his entirety a manifestation of The Terror, a theory which is born out by his ultimate fate. After a few months of relatively colourless governance, McGuire’s government was badly shaken by his press secretary’s contraction of lycanthropy and subsequent killing spree. McGuire himself was infected and subsequently transformed in the middle of a press conference, necessitating his death by silver bullet.

  4. Goldwater was a stalwart of the conservative movement, who McGuire had chosen in order to offset his image as a moderate. Despite the right wing turn of the last decade, Goldwater was nevertheless out of touch with the mood of the public. Whilst Goldwater was willing to adopt common sense measures such as militarising the police and encouraging public gun ownership in response to The Terror, his libertarian leanings made him unwilling to pursue further measures, such as censorship of “pro-satanist” media and the banning of religions other than Christianity. Goldwater also alienated many by abandoning détente in favour of sabre rattling with the Soviets, when many argued that the US and USSR should be joining together against supernatural threats. Goldwater did, however show himself capable of decisive responses to threats, as shown by his quick response to a bioweapons incident in Pennsylvania and the nuclear destruction of Montreal after it was overrun by parasites which removed people’s inhibitions. The latter incident remains controversial, especially among Canadians, although knowledge of the debauched hell that Montreal had become has mitigated this. Goldwater also witnessed the Amity Island shark attacks, which marked the beginning of the trend towards animal attacks in Terror incidents of the 1970’s. Goldwater also cancelled the Apollo space programme following the Apollo 18 disaster. Due to a poor economy and his distance from public opinion, Goldwater lost the 1976 election.

  5. The election of Hollings represented the Democratic party’s takeover by Southern conservatives, although he was always careful to condemn segregation. Hollings embraced the authoritarian measures that Goldwater had opposed, passing the 27th amendment to the Constitution, which partially repealed the 1st, allowing for laws restricting religion and free speech in cases of speech or religions inspired by entities hostile to human life. Hollings also passed environmental protection laws in response to a spate of terror incidents involving animals mutated by toxic waste. Hollings faced an unusual number of large-scale Terror incidents, including the northern California animal attacks, the uprising of giant mutated ants, the invasion by Pod People, the Black Prom incident in Maine and the second Pennsylvania zombie outbreak. Hollings also witnessed the first Slasher attacks, at the hands of individuals such as Leatherface and Michael Myers. Like Kennedy before him, Hollings lost due to a perception that he was unable to deal with The Terror, this time combined with a stagnant economy.

  6. Rumsfeld took power amidst an increasingly apocalyptic mood. 20 years of The Terror had left an American public riven with paranoia and increasingly receptive to radical solutions. Religious fundamentalism was at an all time high, with Billy Graham’s third-party campaign in 1980 winning 23% of the vote. Riots, acts of terrorism and suicides became increasingly common. Most historians agree that a fundamentalist takeover was only prevented by divisions between Catholics and Protestants and between Protestants. Rumsfeld sought to keep a lid on unrest through extremely authoritarian measures, brutally suppressing riots and implementing media blackouts on all Terror events. Following the Videodrome incident, the government implemented tight control over all television networks. In response to the Slasher epidemic, the Rumsfeld administration created the Federal Mental Health Agency and gave them wide ranging powers to detain and forcibly treat individuals suspected of mental illness. Rumsfeld faced incidents such as the attack on the California coast by fish people, the nuclear destruction of Louisville, Kentucky after it was overrun by zombies, the attacks by Gremlins and CHUD, the prevalence of the highly addictive substance known as The Stuff and the Machine Uprising of 1986. Ultimately Rumsfeld was able to keep America halfway functional, although his methods left much to be desired.

  7. Alexander Haig was elected due to his promise of applying “military solutions” to America’s problems. Early in his time in office, the Republican Party faced a serious blow when it was discovered that a significant percentage of the global rich were in fact shape shifting aliens who literally ate poor people. Perhaps because of this, Haig was known for his brutal and indiscriminate responses to Terror incidents, most notably when he firebombed Camp Crystal Lake in order to finally kill the Slasher Jason Voorhees and when he responded to the rampage of the Iron Men in Japan with orbital bombardment. Haig also witnessed the near collapse of the Soviet Union following economic meltdown and several cases of mad science gone out of control and surprised many by providing significant aid to keep the Soviets afloat. Public hysteria in America finally reached a crescendo in 1994, when the eldritch works of Sutter Cane led to madness on a scale that overwhelmed the FMHA, almost leading to the end of human civilisation. In response, Haig began the practice of keeping the population docile and happy by simply giving them regular doses of anti-depressants.

  8. As doped up as the American population was, many were nevertheless tired of Republican in office after 16 years and willing to give the Governor of Ohio a chance. Traficant maintained Haig’s policy of public order via drugs but was wary of the implications of too much of the American population being on mind altering substances. Therefore, he encouraged the use of new synthetic drugs which prevented dreaming, both to remove exhausting nightmares and for other reasons (the inhabitants of Springwood, Ohio have been given enough of these drugs to kill a horse- nobody even remembers Freddy Krueger anymore). Traficant also controversially pursued good relations with some supernatural beings, such as the Nightbreed. Whilst Terror incidents continued under Traficant, a measure of stability had been restored and technological advances led to an economic boom. Advancing technology also allowed for more efficient methods of surveillance, as CCTV cameras and mobile phones equipped with tracking devices begin ubiquitous. Traficant also provided aid to a devastated Japan following the computer ghost attacks of 2001 and the revenge ghost outbreak of 2002 and to Britain following the outbreak of the Rage virus.

  9. The presidency of John Ashcroft was troubled from the start, as he won only following a recount in Vermont and nevertheless lost the popular vote. Ashcroft pursued hardline authoritarian, religiously motivated policies, such as attempting to interfere with state laws which had legalised abortion and homosexuality. The Ashcroft administration also pursued an aggressive foreign policy, which led to tensions with the Soviets and the nationalistic “new Meiji” regime in power in Japan. Government secrecy and authoritarianism reached its apex in the Cube incident, it which it was discovered that the US government had somehow managed to build a giant cube filled with deathtraps and use it to kill several random citizens without anyone realising that this was what they were doing. Ashcroft was also criticised for an insufficient response to the rampage of the Cloverfield entity, which devastated New York. This ultimately led to his defeat in 2008.

  10. Williams was a former supermarket employee who had risen to fame as a highly effective monster hunter. The only candidate ever to campaign with a chainsaw hand, Williams quickly acquired a highly dedicated following, winning in a landslide. Williams was able to use his popularity to pursue policies which would be unthinkable from anyone else, such as the partial dismantling of the enormous American security state, the reversal of several privatisations made under Goldwater and Rumsfeld and the recruitment of more supernatural being than ever before to the security services. However, the most notable event of Williams’ presidency has been the source of The Terror finally being discovered, in the form of several gigantic humanoid figures, lying miles beneath the ground.
    The Ancient Ones ruled the world long before man had climbed down from the trees. Their rule was a time of blood and magic, an age of almost incomprehensible terrors. For untold millennia they have slept but in recent decades their sleep has grown increasingly fitful. They have begun to dream. The information has been hidden from the public in order to prevent panic but thus far this has only led to a great deal of panicking in private. The Ancient Ones have brought human civilisation to its knees by dreaming. What will happen when they wake up?
Psycho, The Birds, The Little Shop of Horrors, The Slime People, 2000 Maniacs, Genocide, Goke, Body Snatcher From Hell, Night of the Living Dead, The Werewolf of Washington, The Crazies, Shivers, Jaws, Apollo 18, Day of the Animals, Empire of the Ants, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), Carrie, Dawn of the Dead, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Halloween, Videodrome, Humanoids From the Deep, Return of the Living Dead, Gremlins, C.H.U.D, The Stuff, Maximum Overdrive, Society, Friday the 13th, Tetsuo: The Iron Man, In the Mouth of Madness, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Nightbreed, Pulse, Ju-On: The Grudge, 28 Days Later, Cube, Evil Dead, Cabin in the Woods