Least favorite alt-history story?

[Space Oddity]

When you search 'new deal coalition' on google you find the TL.

That's sort of like how for a while the first image for 'peridot' you got when you searched was the animated character from Steven Universe, only instead of being amusing and happy it is horrible and sad.

 

[Elektronaut]

Tbh that trope about a Republican civil rights act meaning they win black voters en-masse isn't that extraordinary, unfortunately. It's certainly not just an alt-right teen thing. It's a more or less standard baseline level ignorance comment on post-1900.

 

[Space Oddity]

Tbh that trope about a Republican civil rights act meaning they win black voters en-masse isn't that extraordinary, unfortunately. It's certainly not just an alt-right teen thing. It's a more or less standard baseline level ignorance comment on post-1900.

Well, yeah. If that were the only problem with the TL, it'd just be worth an eyeroll. But, it really, REALLY isn't.

 

[SenatorChickpea]

I mean, I can just about see a timeline where the black vote becomes competitive. That timeline is not New Deal Coalition.

 

[Elektronaut]

I mean, I can just about see a timeline where the black vote becomes competitive. That timeline is not New Deal Coalition.

I think a Republican CRA would probably have kept the black vote in roughly the situation it was in by the time of Kennedy-Nixon, with about a third of it going Republican, analogous to Hispanics in the last few decades. But the continuance of that would depend on the further long-term political development of the parties.

 

[Heavy]

I mean, I can just about see a timeline where the black vote becomes competitive. That timeline is not New Deal Coalition.

Yeah but if you stopped trolling and read the timeline you would know that all black people fear communism which means

 

[Space Oddity]

Yeah but if you stopped trolling and read the timeline you would know that all black people fear communism which means

Better SALT talks mean no nukes when WWIII star

 

[Coiler]

Better SALT talks mean no nukes when WWIII star

Of all the handwave excuses for keeping the war conventional, that's one of the worst possible.

 

[Space Oddity]

Of all the handwave excuses for keeping the war conventional, that's one of the worst possible.

Yeah, it gets worse when it's revealed that a few nukes do fly, but not many and too late to change anything.

Because that is why the USSR stockpiled the damn things. To not use them when they were needed in an existential struggle.

 

[Drizzly Mary]

A lot of ISOT TLs feels like "Colonialism: This Time We'll Do It Right". It can be well written, but still. (As One Star Sets for example, i feel like Japan seems too altruistic? Maybe i have more skewed opinions on Shinzo Abe, i guess)

 

[Archibald]

after hearing so much evil about that "NDCR" TL I decided to check TV tropes page about it.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/NewDealCoalitionRetained

Sweet Jesus... what a load of horse manure, indeed.

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[The Red]

and of course the tide turning when the DDR forces switch sides

The leader of the NVA defectors is Heinz Kessler, a lifelong communist who was kicked out of the SED's official successor party for being too tankie. Granted, I think this is more just laziness rather than some of the equally bizarre political u-turns featured. I mean he did defect historically but in 1941, to the Red Army.

 

[Meadow]

after hearing so much evil about that "NDCR" TL I decided to check TV tropes page about it.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/NewDealCoalitionRetained

Sweet Jesus... what a load of horse manure, indeed.

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[Space Oddity]

after hearing so much evil about that "NDCR" TL I decided to check TV tropes page about it.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/NewDealCoalitionRetained

Sweet Jesus... what a load of horse manure, indeed.

Trust me--the damn thing is actually WORSE than it sounds, no small thanks to its plunk, plunk, plunk "and here's a wikibox" writing style.

That stated, I'd argue that it doesn't get actioned anymore because nobody but the fans really cares about it these days.

 

[Archibald]

Yeah, the one who says the truth, must be assassinated... AH.com is in downward spiral, just sayin' and pointing their contradictions.

 

[Japhy]

Yeah, the one who says the truth, must be assassinated... AH.com is in downward spiral, just sayin' and poiting their contradictions.

Don't do this, man.

 

[Archibald]

For myself, I'd rather read about flaws in Timelines (so I can learn and perhaps avoid similar mistakes myself) than read about flaws in other web sites that I can do nothing about.

fair enough...

 

[Space Oddity]

I didn't even know it had restarted. Reports are welcome if anyone starts cheerleading for murder and whatever again.

You know, I'm going to sound awful, but I don't care--I can't help but think that would be giving them what they want. The fans want Queen Nixon in... to be some sort of great political statement that is being persecuted for being SO HARDCORE, MAN, and they take the reports and like as PROOF that that is happening. Ignoring it as they spend their time making flags with Bugs Bunny on them is probably the best way to deal with the damn dumpster fire.

 

[Space Oddity]

NDCR and TV tropes are absolutely a match made in heaven. I'm surprised the whole TL didn't just restart there.

But then they wouldn't have any real chance of getting a rise out of people.

 

[Walpurgisnacht]

NDCR and TV tropes are absolutely a match made in heaven.

TvTropes isn't that bad.