AndrewH's Test Thread

[AndrewH]

1865 - 1869: Andrew Johnson / vacant (Democratic)
1869 - 1871: Edwin Stanton / Ben Wade (Republican)
defeated, 1868: Thomas Hendricks / Asa Packer (Democratic)
1871 - 1877: Ben Wade / Henry J. Raymond (Republican)
defeated, 1872: Thomas Hendricks / Charles Chauncey Burr (Democratic)
1877 - 1881: Samuel Freeman Miller / Jay Cooke (Republican)
defeated, 1876: Lewis Ross / William Whyte (Democratic)
1881 - 1885: Zebulon Vance / William Evarts (Democratic)
defeated, 1880: Samuel Freeman Miller / Jay Cooke (Democratic), Brick Pomeroy / Richard Trevellick (Anti-Monopolist)
1885 - 1893: J. Donald Cameron / Walter Gresham (Republican)
defeated, 1884: Zebulon Vance / William Evarts (Democratic)
defeated, 1888: James B. Weaver / Michael P. Walsh (People’s), Thomas F. Bayard / Marshall Champlain (Democratic)
1893 - 1894: Henry Flagler / William W. Phelps (National Union)
defeated, 1892: James B. Weaver / Henry Teller (Republican)
1894 - 1897: Henry Flagler / vacant (National Union)
1897 - 1901: Henry Flagler / John C. Spooner (National Union)
defeated, 1896: James B. Weaver / George Edmunds (Republican), Ben Tillman / Murphy Foster (‘Regular’ Democratic)
1901 - 1905: Rufus Peckham / Henry Watterson (Democratic)
defeated, 1900: Robert Hitt / Tom L. Johnson (Republican), Henry Flagler / various (National Union)
1905 - present: Bob La Follette / Martin M. Crane (Republican-Farmer-Labor)
defeated, 1904: Rufus Peckham / Henry Watterson (Democratic)

@Japhy since you seem like you know way more about 19th Century American politics than I do, is this list any good?

 

[Japhy]

Zeb Vance is pushing things. Hard to get a CS governor into the white house. But it's excellent in General. I too enjoy the idea of a GOP Farmer Labor Party.

 

[AndrewH]

Zeb Vance is pushing things. Hard to get a CS governor into the white house. But it's excellent in General. I too enjoy the idea of a GOP Farmer Labor Party.

Hmm, I’ll do some research myself, but do you know of any Democrats in that conciliatory mold that works for that time period?

 

[Japhy]

Hmm, I’ll do some research myself, but do you know of any Democrats in that conciliatory mold that works for that time period?

The Bourbons or Ex Liberal Republicans make sense. John M. Palmer might work well.

 

[AndrewH]

Chavismo!
1969 - 1973: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)
defeated, 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Ed Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1973 - 1974: Richard Nixon / John Connally (Republican)
defeated, 1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (Democratic)
1974 - 1977: John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican)
1977 - present: Cesar Chávez / Fred Harris (Democratic)
defeated, 1976: John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican)

Spoiler

1981 - 1989: Ronald Reagan / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
1989 - 1990: Joe Biden / Dale Bumpers (Democratic)
1990 - 1993: Dale Bumpers / Jim Florio (Democratic)
1993 - 1997: Clayton Williams / Elizabeth Dole (Republican)
1997 - 2005: Paul Wellstone / Nate Holden (Democratic)
2005 - 2009: Geraldine Ferraro / Daniel Mongiardo (Democratic)
2009 - 2017: Sam Brownback / Jack Welch (Republican)
2017 - present: Kevin de León / Wendy Davis (Democratic)

Cesar Chávez / Fred Harris (Democratic) - 400 EV’s
John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican) - 138 EV’s

 

[AndrewH]

Crashing the Party Playlist

1. The Stooges - Down on the Street
2. Bunny Wailer - Blackheart Man or The Clash - Gates of the West
3. Ornette Coleman - The Jungle is a Skyscraper
4. Marianne Faithful - A Stranger On Earth
5. Johnny Paycheck - Take This Job and Shove It
6. Stereolab - Brakhage or Herbert - So Now
7. Erykah Badu - A.D. 2000 or Funkadelic - I Wanna Know If It’s Good to You
8. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Palmolive
9. Wilco - Poor Places or Bruce Springsteen - The Promised Land (Live 1980)
10. Róisín Murphy - Overpowered

 

[Japhy]

Re-reading that Goldwater book brought to my attention the fact that Robert Taft wanted Clarence Manion, dean of the Notre Dame law school, architect behind Goldwater’s eventual rise to national prominence and a former New Deal Democrat and later hardcore conservative who left the party over World War Two, as his Attorney General and recommended him to Eisenhower when he was making his Cabinet.

@Japhy, since I know you’re interested about Taft - what do you think his Cabinet would’ve looked like if he won the Presidency in ‘52?

I missed this until now. I know about Manion, I'll check my copy of Mr. Republican and see if some Footnote skimming can get an answer on other posts.

 

[AndrewH]

103 - 129: Viserys I Targaryen

129: START OF THE DANCE OF DRAGONS, GREENS v.s. BLACKS

Kings of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Queen's Party
129 - 130: Aegon II Targaryen
130 - 130: Jaehaerys "Six Fingers" Targaryen

Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Party of the Princess
129 - 131: Rhaenyra "the Black" Targaryen

131: END OF THE DANCE OF DRAGONS, BLACK VICTORY

131 - 131: Rhaenyra "the Black" Targaryen
131 - 148: Jacaerys "the Great" Targaryen
148 - 184: Aemon I Targaryen
184 - 187: Alyn I Targaryen
187 - 191: Aegon III Targaryen

191: START OF THE WARDEN’S REBELLION, LOYALISTS v.s. WARDENS

King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Party of the Loyalists
191 - 195: Aegon III Targaryen

Great Council, Party of the Wardens
191 - 195​

• Johanna Lannister
• Alba Martell
• Endehar Greyjoy
• Cregan “the Wolf” Stark
• Duram Rosby
• Clarence “the Black Paw” Brune
• Corwyn Grafton
• Myrcella Lydden
• Symeon Celtigar of the Kingsguard
• Captain Roger of the Goldcloaks

King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Party of the Wardens
192 - 195: Gaemon I Targaryen

195: END OF THE REBELLION, LOYALIST VICTORY

195 - present: Aegon III Targaryen

Dramatis Personae:
Hugh “the Hammer” - Self-proclaimed ‘King of Westeros’ (130 - 131)
Florian Massey - Hand of the King, (153 - 184, 187 - 194)
Dyanna Dayne - Queen, (195 - present)
Luco Vhassar - Pirate, Lord of the Stepstones (192 - present)
Eldon “the Brave” - Peasant leader, bandit (186)

 

[Skaven]

1. Heart of Darkness (Orson Welles, 1941)
2.
3. No Exit (Hideki Anno, 2001)
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5.
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10.
11. Valérian et Laureline (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1979)
12.
13. What It Takes (Robert Altman, 1985)
14.
15.

 

[AndrewH]

1. Heart of Darkness (Orson Welles, 1941)
2.
3. No Exit (Hideki Anno, 2001)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Valérian et Laureline (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1979)
12.
13. What It Takes (Robert Altman, 1985)
14.
15.

lol, someone suggested the exact same thing on Beatrix’s list. did Welles actually try and make a heart of darkness movie?

 

[Skaven]

lol, someone suggested the exact same thing on Beatrix’s list. did Welles actually try and make a heart of darkness movie?

Yeah, it was going to be his first film but he ran out of money and made Citizen Kane instead. If we were doing footnotes I'd have had something about it being an immense success thanks to the support of the Hearst congolomerate or something like that.

 

[Bene Tleilax]

lol, someone suggested the exact same thing on Beatrix’s list. did Welles actually try and make a heart of darkness movie?

It was me.

 

[AndrewH]

Yeah, it was going to be his first film but he ran out of money and made Citizen Kane instead.

Niiiice, I never knew that.

The list is still moving on without me on the other place, so feel free to check it out over there if you want to keep adding stuff.

 

[Steve Brinson]

1. Heart of Darkness (Orson Welles, 1941)
2.
3. No Exit (Hideki Anno, 2001)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Friends of the Circus (Richard Attenborough, 1976)
10.
11. Valérian et Laureline (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1979)
12.
13. What It Takes (Robert Altman, 1985)
14.
15.

 

[theev]

1. Heart of Darkness (Orson Welles, 1941)
2. The Magnificent Ambersons (Orson Welles, 1942)
3. No Exit (Hideki Anno, 2001)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Friends of the Circus (Richard Attenborough, 1976)
10.
11. Valérian et Laureline (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1979)
12.
13. What It Takes (Robert Altman, 1985)
14.
15.

 

[AndrewH]

1. Heart of Darkness (Orson Welles, 1941)
2. The Magnificent Ambersons (Orson Welles, 1942)
3. No Exit (Hideki Anno, 2001)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Friends of the Circus (Richard Attenborough, 1976)
10.
11. Valérian et Laureline (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1979)
12.
13. What It Takes (Robert Altman, 1985)
14.
15.

Yeah, just so you know this one isn’t happening considering the other one finished.

I was originally going to move it over here once that one guy put The Room on it, but it kept going on so this one didn’t go anywhere.

 

[AndrewH]

Monarchs of the Andals, Rhoynar and First Men, 130 AC - present:
130 - 135: Joffrey I Velaryon-Targaryen

'the Boy King'​

135 - 157: Viserys II Targaryen

'the Good'​

157 - 164: Aenys II Targaryen

'the Stout'​

164 - 200: Daeron I Targaryen

'Fireball'​

200 - 202: Aegon III Targaryen

'Dragonrot'​

202 - 202: Alester I Hightower

'the Smith'​

202 - 205: Maegor II Redwyne-Targaryen

'the Last'​

205 - 261: Alester I Hightower

'the Iron King'​

261 - 293: Baelor I Hightower

'the Fox'​

293 - present: Joffrey II Hightower

'the Mummer'​

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Alester - clubfooted, cold and calculating. Just and fair, hardcore ideologue. One of the smartest men in the realm (on the level of Baelish), rather religious, patron of the Citadel and a general renaissance man. Harbored a deep hate of the Targaryen dynasty despite his own heritage from that family due to the corrupt and dire reign of the hotheaded Daeron I. Daeron's lackadaisical approach to his duties and increased autonomy to the Iron Isles, the North and (most importantly) Dorne, which been conquered in the early 160's, means that Alester positions himself as a centralizer. Close friends with Tathos, a Qartheen emigre who's known him since his youth in Oldtown, who also serves as his Hand - a fact that angers some of the more nativist Lords.
Daeron - Aegon IV mixed with the Young Dragon. Passionate, womanizer, quick to anger and overambitious to a fault. Likes to think of himself of Aegon the Conqueror reborn, and tries to live up to that legacy by throwing himself into foreign wars between the various Free Cities whenever he can. Has about half-a-dozen known bastard children (including Maegor II), and probably a dozen more that aren't known. Kind to the smallfolk, a dick to just about everyone else. Selfish to a fault.

 

[AndrewH]

SOLIDARITY!
1953 - 1957: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman (Democratic)
defeated, 1952: Bob Taft / Sherman Adams (Republican)
1957 - 1965: Richard Nixon / Walter Judd (Republican)
defeated, 1956: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman (Democratic)
defeated, 1960: Estes Kefauver / Edward J. McCormack, Jr. (Democratic)
1965 - 1972: Jimmy Hoffa / Sid Yates (Democratic)
defeated, 1964: Walter Judd / Robert Taft, Jr. (Republican), Orval Faubus / Joe D. Waggoner (States’ Rights)
defeated, 1968: Lester Maddox / Ted Walker (States’ Rights)
1972 - 1973: Sid Yates / vacant (Democratic)

 

[Yokai Man]

SOLIDARITY!
1953 - 1957: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman (Democratic)
defeated, 1952: Bob Taft / Sherman Adams (Republican)
1957 - 1965: Richard Nixon / Walter Judd (Republican)
defeated, 1956: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman (Democratic)
defeated, 1960: Estes Kefauver / Edward J. McCormack, Jr. (Democratic)
1965 - 1972: Jimmy Hoffa / Sid Yates (Democratic)
defeated, 1964: Walter Judd / Robert Taft, Jr. (Republican), Orval Faubus / Joe D. Waggoner (States’ Rights)
defeated, 1968: Lester Maddox / Ted Walker (States’ Rights)
1972 - 1973: Sid Yates / vacant (Democratic)

Great list,but what happened to the Republicans?

 

[Japhy]

Great list,but what happened to the Republicans?

24 years out of office would probably have bad effects. It could be that the Nixon Administration oversaw the collapse of the party.