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Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland
1964-1973: Harold Wilson (Labour)

defeated, 1964: (Majority) def. Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
defeated, 1966: (Majority) def. Edward Heath (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
defeated, 1970: (Majority) def. Edward Heath (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

1973-1975: Roy Jenkins (Labour)
1975-1980: Keith Joseph (Conservative)

defeated, 1975: (Majority) def. Roy Jenkins (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
defeated, 1978: (Minority, with SDP confidence and supply) def. Tony Benn (Labour), Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic), William Wolfe (Scottish National), David Steel (Liberal)

1980 - 1982: Airey Neave (Conservative minority, with SDP confidence and supply)
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President of the United States of America
1969 - 1973: Ronald Reagan / Walter Reuther (Republican)

defeated, 1968: George McGovern / Walter Reuther (Democratic), Ronald Reagan / Norris Cotton (Republican), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1973: Ronald Reagan / Spiro Agnew (Republican)
defeated, 1972: Walter Reuther/Frank Church (Democratic)
1973 - 1977: Ronald Reagan / Howard Baker (Republican)
1977 - 1981: Bronson La Follette / Mo Udall (Democratic)

defeated, 1980: Nelson Rockefeller/Kit Bond (Republican)
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This looks...familiar. :p

Interesting speculation for things going forward in any case. ;)
 
Chavismo!
1969 - 1973: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)

defeated, 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Ed Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1973 - 1974: Richard Nixon / John Connally (Republican)
defeated, 1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (Democratic)
1974 - 1977: John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican)
1977 - present: Cesar Chávez / Fred Harris (Democratic)

defeated, 1976: John Connally / Gerald Ford (Republican)

1981 - 1989: Ronald Reagan / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
1989 - 1990: Joe Biden / Dale Bumpers (Democratic)
1990 - 1993: Dale Bumpers / Jim Florio (Democratic)
1993 - 1997: Clayton Williams / Elizabeth Dole (Republican)
1997 - 2005: Paul Wellstone / Nate Holden (Democratic)
2005 - 2009: Geraldine Ferraro / Daniel Mongiardo (Democratic)
2009 - 2017: Sam Brownback / Jack Welch (Republican)
2017 - present: Kevin de León / Wendy Davis (Democratic)
 
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WESTY (1999) - dir. by Oliver Stone

~-~

Anthony Hopkins as WILLIAM WESTMORELAND
as PETE DOMENICI
as FRED DENT
as LARRY MCDONALD
as LEE ATWATER
as DONALD RUMSFELD
as BRENT SCOWCROFT
as PHILIP ZELIKOW
Sydney Pollack as FRANK SHAKESPEARE
as HAFEZ AL-ASSAD
as MUSTAFA TLASS
as HIKMAT AL-SHIHABI
as LYNDON JOHNSON
as BARBARA JORDAN
as SANDY D'ALEMBERTE
as PATRICIA WALD
Albert Finney as HAROLD K. JOHNSON
as KITSY WESTMORELAND
David Huddleston as JAMES WESTMORELAND I
Sean Stone as YOUNG JAMES WESTMORELAND II
as GRIGORY ROMANOV
as SECRETARY-GENERAL WALDHEIM
as PRESIDENT DEBRÉ
as PRIME MINISTER FOOT

~-~

"...Oliver Stone's Westy, a biography of President Westmoreland, is the most bloated, over-ambitious and chaotic film you will see this year, but that is arguably its strength. Westmoreland is a particularly central and divisive figure in American history; to some, he was a butcher and liar who led millions to their death in Syria and Vietnam, while to others he's an upstanding military man who was sabotaged by hostile forces both inside and outside the government. Stone certainly has his own opinions on the matter, but he knows well enough to not make Westy an explicitly partisan affair. Instead detailing the internal politicking of his manic Administration or telling Westmoreland's story chronologically, Stone focuses on showing the man through the lens of others. During his youth he was the golden boy of South Carolina, the scion of a family of Southern patricians who was the most decorated Boy Scout in the country and the leader of his class at West Point. Westmoreland is fueled by pure ambition during his youth, leveraging his connections and self-serious demeanor to impress people higher up than him. Soon enough he's one of the youngest Generals in the nation, and then soon after that he's the face of the U.S. intervention in Vietnam. Stone repeatedly cross-cuts scenes of admirers and enemies alike wondering what drives him, what makes him tick. Years later, we get the impression that Westmoreland himself doesn't know.

Westmoreland himself is curiously absent between the War in Vietnam and his run for the White House, and it's where Westy sags the most. Stone pads the runtime with ominous foreshadowing - Lee Atwater worming his way into the good graces of the GOP before he becomes Westmoreland's Svengali, CIA bureaucrats discussing a possible intervention into Syria, that sort of thing. When Stone tries to broaden Westy's scope, it fails to say anything significant about its subject and makes everything worst off for it. It doesn't last for long, thankfully, as Westmoreland returns to the picture right as campaign season starts. Anthony Hopkins turns in a masterful and solemn performance as the late President, playing a man who refuses to show any sign of emotion or conflict to even his direct family, like a poker player hiding his tells. The most enlightening moment of the whole film is when Vice President Domenici, who Westmoreland constantly ignores and supersedes in favor of his Cabinet, corners the President and asks why they were invading Syria. Westmoreland stops, his eyes glazing over as he stares past Domenici and into the empty space behind them, then wakes out of his trance and dumbly tells him to go ask Rumsfeld.

It's been a given of pop psychologists for the past decade that he dove headfirst into Syria out of some desire to avenge his embarrassment in Vietnam. Not so, at least according to Stone. The film portrays him as a figure on the sidelines, watching the events unfold before him as a passive viewer. Where Westmoreland was once a man of action, now he's stuck watching other, more ambitious men make the decisions for him. Atwater uses him as a patriotic totem to remake the Republican Party in a new image, Rumsfeld manipulates him in the advancement of his own presidential ambitions, while McDonald encourages the President's aggressive foreign policy as a way to act out his violent fantasies. Westmoreland accepts this with no pushback, trusting their judgement as a non-politician who's more comfortable with the Joint Chiefs of Staff then the voters. If he has a saving grace, it's that - how could he be blamed? He was just along for the ride." - ROGER EBERT
 
WESTY (1999) - dir. by Oliver Stone

~-~

Anthony Hopkins as WILLIAM WESTMORELAND
as PETE DOMENICI
as FRED DENT
as LARRY MCDONALD
as LEE ATWATER
as DONALD RUMSFELD
as BRENT SCOWCROFT
as PHILIP ZELIKOW
Sydney Pollack as FRANK SHAKESPEARE
as HAFEZ AL-ASSAD
as MUSTAFA TLASS
as HIKMAT AL-SHIHABI
as LYNDON JOHNSON
as BARBARA JORDAN
as SANDY D'ALEMBERTE
as PATRICIA WALD
Albert Finney as HAROLD K. JOHNSON
as KITSY WESTMORELAND
David Huddleston as JAMES WESTMORELAND I
Sean Stone as YOUNG JAMES WESTMORELAND II
as GRIGORY ROMANOV
as SECRETARY-GENERAL WALDHEIM
as PRESIDENT DEBRÉ
as PRIME MINISTER FOOT

~-~

"...Oliver Stone's Westy, a biography of President Westmoreland, is the most bloated, over-ambitious and chaotic film you will see this year, but that is arguably its strength. Westmoreland is a particularly central and divisive figure in American history; to some, he was a butcher and liar who led millions to their death in Syria and Vietnam, while to others he's an upstanding military man who was sabotaged by hostile forces both inside and outside the government. Stone certainly has his own opinions on the matter, but he knows well enough to not make Westy an explicitly partisan affair. Instead detailing the internal politicking of his manic Administration or telling Westmoreland's story chronologically, Stone focuses on showing the man through the lens of others. During his youth he was the golden boy of South Carolina, the scion of a family of Southern patricians who was the most decorated Boy Scout in the country and the leader of his class at West Point. Westmoreland is fueled by pure ambition during his youth, leveraging his connections and self-serious demeanor to impress people higher up than him. Soon enough he's one of the youngest Generals in the nation, and then soon after that he's the face of the U.S. intervention in Vietnam. Stone repeatedly cross-cuts scenes of admirers and enemies alike wondering what drives him, what makes him tick. Years later, we get the impression that Westmoreland himself doesn't know.

Westmoreland himself is curiously absent between the War in Vietnam and his run for the White House, and it's where Westy sags the most. Stone pads the runtime with ominous foreshadowing - Lee Atwater worming his way into the good graces of the GOP before he becomes Westmoreland's Svengali, CIA bureaucrats discussing a possible intervention into Syria, that sort of thing. When Stone tries to broaden Westy's scope, it fails to say anything significant about its subject and makes everything worst off for it. It doesn't last for long, thankfully, as Westmoreland returns to the picture right as campaign season starts. Anthony Hopkins turns in a masterful and solemn performance as the late President, playing a man who refuses to show any sign of emotion or conflict to even his direct family, like a poker player hiding his tells. The most enlightening moment of the whole film is when Vice President Domenici, who Westmoreland constantly ignores and supersedes in favor of his Cabinet, corners the President and asks why they were invading Syria. Westmoreland stops, his eyes glazing over as he stares past Domenici and into the empty space behind them, then wakes out of his trance and dumbly tells him to go ask Rumsfeld.

It's been a given of pop psychologists for the past decade that he dove headfirst into Syria out of some desire to avenge his embarrassment in Vietnam. Not so, at least according to Stone. The film portrays him as a figure on the sidelines, watching the events unfold before him as a passive viewer. Where Westmoreland was once a man of action, now he's stuck watching other, more ambitious men make the decisions for him. Atwater uses him as a patriotic totem to remake the Republican Party in a new image, Rumsfeld manipulates him in the advancement of his own presidential ambitions, while McDonald encourages the President's aggressive foreign policy as a way to act out his violent fantasies. Westmoreland accepts this with no pushback, trusting their judgement as a non-politician who's more comfortable with the Joint Chiefs of Staff then the voters. If he has a saving grace, it's that - how could he be blamed? He was just along for the ride." - ROGER EBERT
Wonderful.Thank you for it.

Really looking forward to Crashing the Party being a real timeline in the future.
 
1977 - 1981: Gerald Ford / Bob Dole (Republican)
1981 - 1989: Dale Bumpers / Jack Gilligan (Democratic)
1989 - 1990: Harold Washington / Tim Wirth (Democratic)
1990 - 1993: Tim Wirth / Janet Reno (Democratic)
1993 - 2001: Jeremiah Denton / Chuck Grassley (Republican)
2001 - ???: Janet Reno / (Democratic)
 
(an old list I had that had some similarities to stuff in my notes. italics is stuff i recently added, so beware of bad writing)

The Groovy One
1969 - 1973: Bobby Kennedy / Terry Sanford (Democratic)
defeated, 1968: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican), George Wallace / various (American Independent)

Eugene McCarthy's campaign for the Presidency effectively ended the day Bobby Kennedy won the California primary. Sure, he still gave talks around the country and nominally contested Kennedy's and Vice President Hubert Humphrey's campaign at the 1968 DNC, but after numerous high-profile defections from his staff to the Kennedy campaign, there was nothing more he could do, and the Senator from Minnesota (very, very reluctantly) endorsed Kennedy on the second day of the Convention. However, it wasn't all wrapped up yet; Mayor Richard Daley, while sympathetic to the Kennedy cause, had been threatened by the Humphrey campaign to fall in line or get his head cracked once Triple H was President. Bobby, a political mind if there ever was one, lured him away by offering one hell of a sweet deal - Otto Kerner, Governor of Illinois and recently appointed Judge, would be Bobby's Attorney General. While it was an obvious sop to Daley (who would get his own lackey inside the White House who could prevent the feds from sniffing around Chicago), it was an astute play on Kennedy's part - Ramsey Clark, the crusading incumbent, was the one man the media elite said should be held over from the Johnson Administration, no matter the nominee. Clark was also one of the most hated men in America, a wordy, civil-liberties loving liberal who was blamed for everything, from the Black Panthers to right-wing nutjobs. He had become one of Dick Nixon's favorite punching bags, and demonstrating that RFK gave a damn about law and order would go a long way in keeping the fraying Democratic coalition together. With Daley secured in the Kennedy camp, Humphrey's hopes were dashed, which itself culminated in the ultimate humiliation - having to come out in front of the convention and give a nominating speech in favor of that "smug little shit" Bobby.

It was a rematch of 1960, Nixon versus Kennedy, but someone had to throw a wrench into the works; George Wallace was leading a populist, right-wing insurgency across the nation, and was gaining ground on the two parties by the day. Kennedy was just a hippie who got a haircut, another out-of-touch liberal who places the civil rights of the minority over the civil rights of the majority. An August Gallup poll had Kennedy leading in a three-way match-up, but only just. However, after Wallace agreed to pick former Kentucky Governor and Commissioner of Baseball Happy Chandler to be his running mate, the wheels fell off. While actual voters didn't have much of a problem with Chandler, the donors who supported him did. Chandler was too liberal, they said, and in a move to appease the people who were funding his campaign, Wallace agreed to have each state decide who his running mate was. While the Manhattan editors and writers Wallace so frequently mocked laughed at his expense, Wallace's own campaign staff fumed - why was the man who said he was beholden to the average man answering beck-and-call to a cabal of donors from Orange County? Former Georgia Governor Marvin Griffin, General Curtis Lemay and even KFC founder Harland Sanders represented the AIP, with various small-time state senators and representatives filling out the rest (only in Alabama, Kentucky and across the Midwest was Chandler retained). The decision was universally mocked, and both Kennedy and Nixon jumped at the opportunity to paint Wallace as a malcontent idiot who would be sorely unprepared to run the country. While it didn't end up actually changing the minds of Wallace's base, he couldn't exactly expand from that base, and soon he found himself penned up. Kennedy and Nixon, now free to focus entirely on the other, would spend the rest of the campaign in a fistfight with Nixon still harboring a deep-seated grudge against the Kennedy family and Kennedy himself never exactly being one for playing nicely. Each candidate brawled with the other over Vietnam, busing, and other hot-button issues. The turning point, however, would come when Bobby railed against Nixon for his "cowardice" in refusing to debate like he did eight years prior, and the American people agreed. Nixon was humiliated (ironically for the opposite of what brought him down last time), and Bobby Kennedy was comfortably elected as the next President of the United States.

Kennedy accomplished a lot in his four years; A withdrawal from Vietnam came. Federal busing continued, qualifications for Food Stamps were set out (Kennedy personally intervened to keep them broad), and the ERA was passed after the President efficiently threatened nearly every state legislature to get it done, or else. The War on Poverty was replaced with the War on Crime, as Kennedy brought the war from Vietnam to America's inner cities. But you don't remember that. Nobody does. What we remember is Attorney General Kerner being accused of mail fraud and conspiracy, and President Kennedy dragging himself out in front of the Press Corp and accusing them of manufacturing a scandal. We remember the accusations that Democratic machines stuffed ballot boxes from California to New York. We remember Kerner's farce of a hearing in front of the Hutchinson Committee, engaging in a vulgar shouting match with Trent Lott that had to be broken up by Barbara Jordan. We remember the investigations into the President's finances, the resignations from the Cabinet, the accusations, the mudslinging. What we don't remember is the real, material legacy of the second Kennedy Administration - the crackdown on civil liberties in the name of public safety, the tax hikes on the nation's top earners, his rocky relationship with Prime Minister Turner after the assassination of Pierre Trudeau, the Lordstown Massacre, all of it forgotten.

For the first time in his life, Bobby Kennedy wasn't the hero of the story, not even the villain. He was part of the supporting cast, stuck on the sidelines watching his Administration spiral out of control. His inability to create his own narrative after the implosion of his Administration led to his defeat in '72, and the first Republican since Eisenhower to grace the White House.

1973 - 1981: Gerald Ford / William C. Cramer (Republican)
defeated, 1972: Bobby Kennedy / Terry Sanford (Democratic)
defeated, 1976: Jesse Unruh / Pete Flaherty (Democratic)


After the scandal of the Kennedy Administration, America wanted someone they could trust, a warm and familiar face that could guide them through trying times. So, they settled on a man who had been on their TV's for six years. House Minority Leader Gerald Ford, while beloved by his colleagues for his work in Congress, was most known by the American people for his televised press conferences with the Senate Minority Leader (first Everett Dirksen, then Thomas Kuchel) where he proposed conservative alternatives to Democratic policy. As the Kerner Affair began escalating in intensity, Ford's calm and collected speeches about integrity, personal responsibility and good ol' fashioned Republican politics endeared him to many, and handily won the Republican nomination thanks to his increasing presence in American households.
 
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1933 - 1937: Al Smith / Cordell Hull (Democratic)
defeated, 1932: Herbert Hoover / Charles Curtis (Republican)
1937 - 1941: Huey Long / William Lemke (Justice)
defeated, 1936: Al Smith / Cordell Hull (Democratic), Hamilton Fish / Frank Knox (Republican)
1941 - 1949: Huey Long / Sheridan Downey (Justice)
defeated, 1940: Frank Murphy / Hatton Sumners (Democratic), Frank Knox / Warren Austin (Republican)
defeated, 1944: Charles W. Sawyer / Millard Tydings (Democratic), John Winant / W. Kingsland Macy (Republican)
1949 - 1953: J. Lister Hill / Ernest MacFarland (Democratic)
defeated, 1948: Upton Sinclair / Willis Mahoney (Justice), Rose Long / (‘Louisiana’ Justice), John Winant / Dewey Short (Republican)
1953 - present: Sheridan Downey / (Justice)
 
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