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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    That’s phresh
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    don't really think that means we should be bringing that culture over here.
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Must say lads there really are some brutal critiques going on in a thread which is designed for content which is just a bit of fun. You wouldn't talk to someone like this in person.
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    How can you make Peter Shore Labour Leader?

    have Foot not stand and endorse Shore in 1980 like he was initially going to basically
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Politicians I Have Met: AlfieJ edition 1992-1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour) 1993-1998: John Prescott (Labour) 1998-2001: David Blunkett (Labour) 2001-2005: David Blunkett (British Workers) 2005-2010: Peter Hain (New Democracy) 2010-2010: John Leech (New Democracy) 2010-2013: Jesse Norman (New...
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    millennium bug crisis
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    WI: Blair loses the popular vote but is within ten seats of a majority in 2005?

    Echoing @Alex Richards but going slightly further - there was a lot of quiet hope within the PLP that 2005 would give them enough of a bloody nose either to get Blair out and return to "real" Labour roots - a lost majority and Lib Dems on 80-odd seats would defo do that. I could imagine a...
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    I've just gone for raw popular vote for the sake of ease but if you went down the latter route you could get some very dank results.
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Jungle Primary USA 1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) 1932 def. Joseph I. France (Republican), Herbert Hoover (Republican), J. Hamilton Lewis (Democratic), Al Smith (Democratic), John Nance Gardner (Democratic) 1936 def. William Borah (Republican), Alf Landon (Republican), Frank...
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    Foot Resigns and other 80s Labour PODs

    There's actually a few problems with this. The 1988 Leadership Election began largely as a result of serious political developments which are often forgotten about now. Firstly Prescott's relationship had deteriorated with Kinnock during the 1987 campaign. Nevertheless, he had actually initially...
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    Foot Resigns and other 80s Labour PODs

    economy slowly starting to improve
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    Foot Resigns and other 80s Labour PODs

    Reducing the entire complexity of the 1980s, not least the ideological fluidity of the period in Britain’s public political and intellectual life, to just “Tories Win” is a bit simplistic not least for an alternate history forum and also goes against considerable scholarship. Ross McKibbin is...
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    Effects of a Labour Representation Committee Collapse?

    One major thing that hasn't been mentioned here so far is the Fabian idea of permeation, i.e. joining multiple parties in order to influence policy, not just one. Without the appeal of the LRC you could see the general statist, gradualist philosophy of the early Fabians both remaining in the...
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Lot more complex than that. Was a liberal but also identified as a libertarian socialist and lifelong supporter of extra parliamentary struggles. Left wing critic of the leadership till Blair got in too. Even then his What’s Left? pamphlet was very critical of New Labour.
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    By being amazing?
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Glad you lot spotted
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Many thanks, it was a very fun collection of documents I found at the Kinnock archive that pointed me towards this as well as Minkin's very imaginative study of what has often been a very very overlooked leadership election. The rest is just a bit of fun of what happens afterwards, but Gould...
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    Hope you like academically sourced PODs. 'An act of sabotage against the party'[1]: If Hattersley had lost 1988 Leaders of the Labour Party 1983-1989: Neil Kinnock [2] 1989-1999: Bryan Gould [3] 1999-2019: Peter Hain Deputy Leaders of the Labour Party 1983-1988: Roy Hattersley...
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    Lists of Heads of Government and Heads of State

    He’s defo the latter
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